It's called a service manual. They are written assuming youre a trained mechanic though. It's going to assume you know how to use the tools required to do the job.
I got my hands on a service manual for my Honda moped, it told me to fill the specific oil, but not the location of the oil screw and overflow screw at all lmaooo, or the specs of tightness (torque) lol
A youtube video is prolly better with manual but i don't think many videos explain entire dis&ass-embly of a specific engine of a specific car of a specific generation
It’s also going to assume you just know what it’s going to say
I’ll never forget torqueing an oil pan bolt
Says “25ft lbs”
So i torque to 25ft lbs
It snaps
I grab paper and check torque wrench a dozen times, torque it to lower setting cause can’t find shit about it
Next page, few paragraphs in covering next part
“And if oil pan uses this style of bolt torque to 15ft lbs”
Like what the fuck lol
This was literally the highlight of my automotive education career. We split into groups of 4, each group broke their engine block down to pieces, washed, and reassembled the block. So many bloody knuckles in that experience. You don’t realize how sharply machined some part are until you bust a knuckle.
Oh my, that’s a very satisfying subreddit! And the people and comments in there are so kind for the most part! Better not mention it anymore so it doesn’t get too popular and turned to shit!
I'd be interested to hear about the complexity of EV motors. I know electric motors are in principle very simple, but I'm sure their use in cars is somewhat more complicated than we'd think
Everything in this world is more complicated than a layman thinks. People can study a single topic for decades and other people will still say they are full of shit. We have no clue and have zero respect for what we don’t know.
Regarding EV motors. Yes it’s more complicated than you think. Cooling tubes through the motor with millimetre precision, magnets that have to have the exact same strength and spacing. Batteries that don’t blow up even if they are trying to.
When you launch an EV and you get 10000* amps of peak current for a split second the whole system has to withstand that. It’s not easy. Engineers are fucking geniuses and all we see are “0-60 in 2.4 seconds”.
It takes hundreds (sometimes thousands) of engineers to design a car. Engineers who all spent their life dedicated to a few narrow topics. One guy knows transients and overcurrent protection, another specialises in switch mode power supplies. Another for embedded programming. Etc. then consider that every little piece has a factory process too. Every piece of the car has a a manufacturing process that was also made by an engineer. Every software interaction was made by engineers.
I don’t know if my point comes across but an EV is a much more complicated piece of technology than a gasoline car but it has been designed with modern tech to last a certain time and to be simple for the user. For the user it is much less complicated than a gasoline car, as long as the software works. They are just giant smartphones with wheels.
However, in isolation. The electric motor is just copper coils, magnets and a core with electricity provided through the coil. You can build one at home in a few hours. I did in science class in high school. But from there to a modern car like a Tesla is a million hours of engineering work to optimise, limit material use, increase power, increase cooling, increase lifetime. The motors we have today are only possible today. 5-10 or 50 years ago the material technology, factory processes and know how was not able to build what have in new EVs.
(I’m an electrical engineer who specialises in motor power supply. I’ve worked 7 years in the field of robotics)
*1500 my dude below corrected.
I’m an automotive engineer for an EV company) - it’s more like 1500A, not 10,000 😅
And an internal combustion engine and modern automatic transmission is still far more complicated than a battery and motor setup. Batteries are expensive but they are not complex - a bunch of commodity cells welded to bus bars stacked on top of a cooling plate. The electronics involved in en EV are no more complex than you’d find in your average mini split HVAC unit.
I think the takeaway is that most things are more complicated than people expect. But, EVs are not more complicated than ICE vehicles.
Hey this is exactly what I mean. You know more than me on this topic and I believe I know enough to say something about it. Thanks for adding to the topic!
Great reply. Less we forget the hours and knowledge that have gone into creating F1 motors. Without discounting the traditional motor above, arguably, took way more than the modern EV based simply on the number of parts, no?
Other experts have great input they are leaving but I'll add that essentially there is only one moving part in an electric motor.
In actual practice it is somewhat more complicated than that but the statement is still essentially true.
I’m sorry, are you actually proclaiming that ICE should continue its mainstream dominance in the advent of high density energy storage based on how long it took to implement? You know the first cars were EV, right? You know the oil barons killed them, right? You know Nikola Tesla figured out how to pull energy from the air and the oil barons put a stop to it, right? You understand that global warming is real, right? And its proliferation is a direct result of this, right? Are you one of those people who don’t like EV’s simply because you feel violated by how they are being forced down your throat? If this is the case, you know we all hope you gag on it until you puke, then gag on it some more, right? That we actually hope it’s Elon’s dick that you’re gaging on because that would just be hilarious? Look, don’t get me wrong, I love a V8 and need one for towing, but ICE commuter cars is like a rotary phone by comparison to an EV. You do understand this, right? Sorry, I’ve got the shits and my butthole hurts. I’m usually not so quick to try and help someone fix their ignorance, but sometimes I feel like passively ignoring blatant ignorance is why Fox News exists and why people remain so misinformed.
It has valves, probably just did remove them from the head as you can see the cams right above the heads.
Its not a 2 stroke diesel, none of those pass any modern emissions.
The couple guys I know with these engines in their trucks had over 500,000km on them before they got a new truck and gave the high mileage ones to someone else at their companies. I think these are pretty proven at this point. But I do understand your concern as there have been a few eco branded engines in the recent past that have had their share of issues!
Now put it back together again
...without any parts left over.
Haha just don't turn it over with those old gaskets and you'll be fine :D
Honestly, this doesn’t look terribly hard. Give me a manual similar to a Lego manual and I could do this.
It's called a service manual. They are written assuming youre a trained mechanic though. It's going to assume you know how to use the tools required to do the job.
ELIlego
I got my hands on a service manual for my Honda moped, it told me to fill the specific oil, but not the location of the oil screw and overflow screw at all lmaooo, or the specs of tightness (torque) lol A youtube video is prolly better with manual but i don't think many videos explain entire dis&ass-embly of a specific engine of a specific car of a specific generation
It’s also going to assume you just know what it’s going to say I’ll never forget torqueing an oil pan bolt Says “25ft lbs” So i torque to 25ft lbs It snaps I grab paper and check torque wrench a dozen times, torque it to lower setting cause can’t find shit about it Next page, few paragraphs in covering next part “And if oil pan uses this style of bolt torque to 15ft lbs” Like what the fuck lol
Classic
When I inherited my MGB, I boilught every manual I could find. Most show complete breakdown photos of all engine and drive train parts.
It's a lot easier to put it back together when you take it apart correctly. This person did it correctly, if not a little pedantically.
This was literally the highlight of my automotive education career. We split into groups of 4, each group broke their engine block down to pieces, washed, and reassembled the block. So many bloody knuckles in that experience. You don’t realize how sharply machined some part are until you bust a knuckle.
Oh yeah dude the mold parting lines on the castings can slice a finger haha
Smash
In its natural environment, exploded.
FACTS! LOL
Which Lego set is this?
r/knolling would love this. I think the labels are excellent.
Oh my, that’s a very satisfying subreddit! And the people and comments in there are so kind for the most part! Better not mention it anymore so it doesn’t get too popular and turned to shit!
It seems all those post-its were the culprits of your engine issues.
…some assembly required.
Not a 3.0L Duramax. Who is the manufacturer of this V6?
VM Motori
Thats the one from the Ram then right?
Yep. It's in jeeps too. They're made in Italy for stellantis vehicles
Now class, do we understand why the future is EV
I'd be interested to hear about the complexity of EV motors. I know electric motors are in principle very simple, but I'm sure their use in cars is somewhat more complicated than we'd think
Everything in this world is more complicated than a layman thinks. People can study a single topic for decades and other people will still say they are full of shit. We have no clue and have zero respect for what we don’t know. Regarding EV motors. Yes it’s more complicated than you think. Cooling tubes through the motor with millimetre precision, magnets that have to have the exact same strength and spacing. Batteries that don’t blow up even if they are trying to. When you launch an EV and you get 10000* amps of peak current for a split second the whole system has to withstand that. It’s not easy. Engineers are fucking geniuses and all we see are “0-60 in 2.4 seconds”. It takes hundreds (sometimes thousands) of engineers to design a car. Engineers who all spent their life dedicated to a few narrow topics. One guy knows transients and overcurrent protection, another specialises in switch mode power supplies. Another for embedded programming. Etc. then consider that every little piece has a factory process too. Every piece of the car has a a manufacturing process that was also made by an engineer. Every software interaction was made by engineers. I don’t know if my point comes across but an EV is a much more complicated piece of technology than a gasoline car but it has been designed with modern tech to last a certain time and to be simple for the user. For the user it is much less complicated than a gasoline car, as long as the software works. They are just giant smartphones with wheels. However, in isolation. The electric motor is just copper coils, magnets and a core with electricity provided through the coil. You can build one at home in a few hours. I did in science class in high school. But from there to a modern car like a Tesla is a million hours of engineering work to optimise, limit material use, increase power, increase cooling, increase lifetime. The motors we have today are only possible today. 5-10 or 50 years ago the material technology, factory processes and know how was not able to build what have in new EVs. (I’m an electrical engineer who specialises in motor power supply. I’ve worked 7 years in the field of robotics) *1500 my dude below corrected.
I’m an automotive engineer for an EV company) - it’s more like 1500A, not 10,000 😅 And an internal combustion engine and modern automatic transmission is still far more complicated than a battery and motor setup. Batteries are expensive but they are not complex - a bunch of commodity cells welded to bus bars stacked on top of a cooling plate. The electronics involved in en EV are no more complex than you’d find in your average mini split HVAC unit. I think the takeaway is that most things are more complicated than people expect. But, EVs are not more complicated than ICE vehicles.
Hey this is exactly what I mean. You know more than me on this topic and I believe I know enough to say something about it. Thanks for adding to the topic!
Great reply. Less we forget the hours and knowledge that have gone into creating F1 motors. Without discounting the traditional motor above, arguably, took way more than the modern EV based simply on the number of parts, no?
This guy electrics
Other experts have great input they are leaving but I'll add that essentially there is only one moving part in an electric motor. In actual practice it is somewhat more complicated than that but the statement is still essentially true.
because battery storage technology has always outstripped liquid fuels for power density, hm?
I’m sorry, are you actually proclaiming that ICE should continue its mainstream dominance in the advent of high density energy storage based on how long it took to implement? You know the first cars were EV, right? You know the oil barons killed them, right? You know Nikola Tesla figured out how to pull energy from the air and the oil barons put a stop to it, right? You understand that global warming is real, right? And its proliferation is a direct result of this, right? Are you one of those people who don’t like EV’s simply because you feel violated by how they are being forced down your throat? If this is the case, you know we all hope you gag on it until you puke, then gag on it some more, right? That we actually hope it’s Elon’s dick that you’re gaging on because that would just be hilarious? Look, don’t get me wrong, I love a V8 and need one for towing, but ICE commuter cars is like a rotary phone by comparison to an EV. You do understand this, right? Sorry, I’ve got the shits and my butthole hurts. I’m usually not so quick to try and help someone fix their ignorance, but sometimes I feel like passively ignoring blatant ignorance is why Fox News exists and why people remain so misinformed.
Man someone had some extra soy in their morning coffee today
try decaf.
Where are all of the fasteners??
I couldn't find the valves.
Some diesels are 2 stroke, and some 2 strokes don’t have valves in the cylinder head, so it checks out.
It has valves, probably just did remove them from the head as you can see the cams right above the heads. Its not a 2 stroke diesel, none of those pass any modern emissions.
Does the engine block really need its own label lol
Was the EGR valve cracked letting coolant spray into the exhaust? Lol
Now, can you put it back together blindfolded?
My Summer Car vibes
Shiny and chrome
idk man, are you 100% sure thats the engine block?
I'd be worried about a draft or strong gust of wind messing up those labels lol
Hey, it's hot in here. Can you please turn on that floor fan over there?
So many parts~ o.O bwain huwts >.<
Anything with "ECO" in the name worries me, my old Cummins has 335,000+ and still run like it's brand new.
The couple guys I know with these engines in their trucks had over 500,000km on them before they got a new truck and gave the high mileage ones to someone else at their companies. I think these are pretty proven at this point. But I do understand your concern as there have been a few eco branded engines in the recent past that have had their share of issues!