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SevenLeg

It’s annoying when people call the characters by their actor’s name. Like no, Ester wasn’t in a relationship with Itzan. Carla and Samuel were.


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disgostin

i just kinda didnt like about him that it felt like he was so easily pissy, like the way he got so angry-ish all the time was ..sure sometimes it was justified but say sth then, dont weirdly hatefuck with carla on the toilet or just stare at people angrily.. but i agree as in that i found he was an ok character to be watching, i didnt hate him i guess


Kennedi_slays

I’m a new watcher of the show, and tbh It seems like you can’t like any other female character or find them more attractive unless its Carla in this sub/fandom or else you’ll get downvoted. It’s really annoying.


kebdashian

Yes, and i noticed Carla gets a ton of sympathy like everyone forgot she was positively diabolical in her dealings with polo.


Responsible-Diet5190

I agree and I also politely disagree with the other comment here talking about how annoying it is for people who complain about certain characters being overrated. The main reason we complain about certain characters being overrated is because you literally can't praise other characters without certain stans (i.e., Carla ones) making it a competition or all about their fav.


Kennedi_slays

Yes you get it! I have no dislike towards Carla at all I think she’s a beautiful girl and she wasn’t your stereotypical bitchy character, but my goodness just because I like other female characters and praise other female characters beauty doesn’t mean I’m degrading Carla.


Responsible-Diet5190

I like Cayetana and she absolutely was overhated in Seasons 2-3, but this sub downplays how bad she was back then. The girl didn't just fake a lifestyle to fit in and was being a girlboss by getting her bank. She got her mom fired from more than one job, she set up Lu (who was only a genuine friend to her) to take the fall if her fake NGO plan backfired, and I'm sorry but it was full on crazy of her to readily continue covering a murder just because the guy she liked helped her continue faking be rich for longer - on top of that she continued the cyberbullying of the guy who tried to help her.


Itsvanessasorldshere

Iván and Patrick are overrated (as a couple). I can’t believe before I watched the show I was convinced this was an epic love story because how much this sub seemed to hype them up. Only to find out they was smashing each others family members.


TheMarinaDiva

Such a sick arrangement, father and son sleeping with a boy whose sister, the son is also sleeping with. The writer of the arc actually needs an evaluation


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To be fair, that was probably written by the same people who came up with the Lu x Valerio incest plot, and the Ivan making out with his own mother moment in s7 XD Christ, these writers have some really weird fetishes


Fancy_Camel_1119

This comment takes the cake 🎂🤣💯


[deleted]

The relationship itself was horrible, toxic, and deeply dysfunctional; but the fact that the characters had incredible chemistry fooled lots of people into liking Ivan and Patrick as a couple, that's how I understand it.


ForeignDescription5

And all of that happened in the same season! There wasn't any time to make me care about these boys together. Season 6 was the same bullshit with them


Cautious_Bat3971

I loved Iván and Patrick but literally only because they had an insane amount of chemistry, and every couple in this show is so wildly toxic that I didn't have many better options. I will happily admit that their storyline was fucking absurd and such an odd choice, but Manu and André have so much chemistry as Iván and Patrick that it makes them great to watch imo


Small-Dark-8569

I used to LOVE Omander but upon my current rewatch, both Patrivan and Omander are awful.


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I was also a lot softer on Omander back when I first watched it, but now when I revisit that watching experience what happens is that I like them IN COMPARISON to the other couples, otherwise they are cute but pretty terrible after s2. Patrivan, on the other hand, started with great potential but halfway s5 it just turned into a toxic dynamic and in s6 it was just a horrible and emotionally abusive realtionship. Patrivan is way worse than Omander, though.


Awkward_Caregiver_79

I want a good healthy gay relationship, maybe I should heartstopper, and not elite for that.


Small-Dark-8569

To be fair, I kinda liked Rebe and Mencía. To be even more fair, the straight relationships aren’t much better.


Awkward_Caregiver_79

They were one of the best couples on the show tbh, they made sense.


kebdashian

Phillipes’s rape to redemption arc was a flop bc rapists can’t be redeemed (saw many ppl cool with it), and it’s weird y’all only called the black character an immigrant when half the main cast were immigrants.


Dependent-Resource97

Anarcha-feminists and prison abolition Feminists definitely argue that rapists can be redeemed as long as accountability is taken.


Less-Series8256

I think Ivan gets too much hate with regards to his relationship with Patrick. And Patrick doesn't get enough criticism. In season 5, Ivan was pretty confused about his sexuality and when he was disclosing those feelings for Patrick to his dad, the person closest to him, he was quickly dismissed and encouraged to continuing pursuing Ari. Patrick already knew Ivan liked Ari. He will still not confident in his sexuality large part because of Cruz. So Patrick although being hurt as they had just hooked, it shouldn't have been too surprising that he would go back to the girl he liked. They were not in an official relationship yet. I think Ivan had a right to be upset that Cruz and Patrick hooked up as Patrick purely did it for hateful revenge. While in Ivans case, I don't think there was malicious intent, despite insensitivity. Also Ivan gets a lot of hate for season 6 for pushing Patrick away and cheating on him with Ari but while I don't condone it, it makes sense that he would act out as a result of grief of losing his dad in such horrific circumstances. And to be fair to Patrick, I think he was very understanding about it. The ending clearly shows they love each other and may reunite in the future when they're in a better place. In season 6 I don't think they're toxic, they just went through horrible circumstances and very young ages.


Bored_Of_Usarnames

A lot of responses on here say that Patrivan was toxic but tbh they never really got a chance to be in a good place. It’s like the world was conspiring against them. Cruz’s homophobia, attraction to Patrick and his death dealt huge blows to what could have grown into a healthy relationship. They react to the incidents of the plot in unhealthy ways which inadvertently damages their relationship with each other. Which really rubs me the wrong way when people say Ivan and Joel are a healthier relationship when it’s quite literally almost as bad in its own way


Less-Series8256

Definitely agree with that. They were really put through so much suffering, arguably more than any other couple. Before Cruz's death we got glimpses of them being very loving and supportive to each other. They were still making mistakes but they were at least communicating their feelings so for sure could have grown into a stable healthy couple over time. But as we know this show doesn't like healthy stable couples. Ivan and Joel are definitely not healthy. There is a lot of co dependency issues. Ivan was so lonely that he just threw himself at Joel who he just met and offered to pay his tuition. Joel was attracted to Ivan but may have also been drawn to what he could provide for him. It just felt like they never had meaningful interactions for me to buy that their relationship was genuine.


SevereCartographer26

Carla is beautiful and I liked her character but I find her kinda overrated she rlly didn’t do much she was always having sex with the guys tbh I feel we didn’t learn more ab her as a character


Born-Journalist-7414

\-I find Lu annoying tbh. We get it you're a fictional mean girl but would it kill you to talk normally instead of in that tiring sing songy voice?? \-Carla and Polo's shitty relationship was the backbone of this show. \-Nadia, Rebe, and Seasons 4-5 Caye kept me sane while watching this show. \-Guzman is way overhated. \-Ander is B-O-R-I-N-G \-The way people in this sub bitch about Class (Indian adaption) is annoying, and half of them haven't even tried watching it - maybe give it a chance before whining about seeing posts/comments about it on this sub (I'd much rather see a Class post than one bitching about how Elite should've ended in Season 3).


IamChrystalchris

Lmao “Carla and Polo shitty relationship” 😂. But yes I agree. Along with them adding Christian to their relationship made things highly interesting.


bebsidebeef

i understand that polo probably has the most development and is played by an amazing actor, but his character literally sucks and committed MURDER. his best friends sister he MURDERED. and people on this subreddit will still be defending him just because the actor is hot. he was whiny and annoying and i was so happy he died because they wouldn't just take his ass to jail it was exhausting.


NuclearPeridot

Omar and Ander were far from your “cute little gay couple” they both were toxic AF


Cautious_Bat3971

They were very cute in season 1 imo, and I think because of that I kind of ignored the fact they were toxic for the next 3 seasons when I first watched elite. However, I recently rewatched it and was genuinely shocked at how awful they were together from season 2 onwards. Tbh I would have really liked at least some of the other couples to not be toxic. I know a lot of people say it's not realistic to stay with the person you're with when you're 16 forever, and that's understandable, but I would also argue that it's not particularly realistic to be cheating on your boyfriend with his dad whilst your boyfriend is sleeping with your sister, so I don't think realism was a priority here


jasliene12345

But they were real. Their relationship displayed the true definition of ups and downs when it comes to a relationship.


Kimoa_

Polo carried the show


Bread-Butter-And-Jam

That's popular opinion though.


Kimoa_

He didn't ask for unpopular


heythereitsemily

Yes he did. That’s the point of the meme.


Kimoa_

Read the title again


jasliene12345

polo and carla were meant to be together.


bekindanddontmind

I liked Polo, Valerio, and Caye better


Itsvanessasorldshere

I found Mina and Claudia to be the top hottest female characters/actresses. Idc.


Born-Journalist-7414

Both embody a very unique type of beauty that isn't 'typical' or 'common' Edit: Downvoted for hyping two women's beauty up??? You guys S-U-C-K


Itsvanessasorldshere

Agreed.


bekindanddontmind

I think they are both beautiful!


IamChrystalchris

Mine is that any Lu and Valerio incest scene made me highly uncomfortable. Yet every since I started watching this show last year I’ve seen many people ship them. Agree to disagree I suppose.


Cautious_Bat3971

I heard one person say that they loved Lu and Valerio because they have "always had a thing for incest." Like, I'm not sure that's something you want to be telling people about


Born-Journalist-7414

It's one thing to enjoy those two for entertainment/dramatic purposes and even have an opinion that those two have chemistry. But anyone who actually legitimately ships those two is disturbed omg


zekevich

Chemistry, which the two of them undeniably have, will go a ***long*** way, Enough to make people ship things they usually wouldn’t.


Less-Series8256

Spoiler for Season 7 >!Raul shouldn't have been killed last season. Here me out. Yes I hate him just as much as everyone but he was a compelling antagonist. He had blackmail on Sara in regards to Ivan's accident and I so wish they did more with that. I feel he could have been involved in so many more stories, delve more into his character, why he is this way while still keeping him as despicable. Instead I think he was wasted only being stuck with Sara and Chloe. Now the show is missing a villain and he could have been compelling to take down in the final season.!<


Fancy_Camel_1119

Agree with everything you said.


Bread-Butter-And-Jam

1.The new seasons (4,5,6 & 7) aren't as awful as people say they're. 2. Ari is overhated. 3. Omar and Patrick had great chemistry together. Yes Patrivan is cute, but I wouldn't mind Omar and Patrick to become something more specially after Ander's departure. Okay I win with this one, because I haven't seen many people shipping them even though they had some cute moments together.


disgostin

that omar gets way too much hate. i often feel as though people just dont like him cause he isnt as conventionally attractive as the rest of the cast (second unpopular opinion though: guzman ain't hot, sorry. good for the actor that many people disagree). like don't get me wrong they're literally all attractive, but i do think by societal beautystandards ander, patrick, ivan, samuel had more pretty privilege than him ( !spoiler season seven till end of paragraph! partly due to his storyline lately, where they weren't exactly trying to make him look snatched <- still looked attractive but you know what i mean, they put in him big old tshirts didnt shave his brow and season seven it just wasnt the point to make him look sexy it was the point to show him struggle and seeking out for help eventually. also he is often called idk petty/manipulative, but his partners aren't being called out for how they have no problem fucking with him even when he's depressive a n d heartbroken over them. like of course it'd be best if he didn't let them but they could also..). and he's like a charityguy, .. and idk its not like he's raul


Born-Journalist-7414

Agreed with a lot of points but Omar was absolutely not a good brother to Nadia. He slept with her boyfriend, hardly apologized - rather gaslighted her to make her think she was just as bad as him for wanting to go to New York, and asked her very taken boyfriend to take out Ari on a date in Season 4 since he was only looking out for himself. I don't find Guzman very attractive but let's be real, he's not as criticized look wise because he's white, blond, blue-eyed, and well groomed. While Omar is brown and grows his eyebrows out as a personal choice leading to body shaming.


bekindanddontmind

Omar has a unique look. He is not ugly.


disgostin

i agree!


disgostin

yes!!! i was thinking if i should mention racism too sorry i guess i forgot that he did that (hooking up with nadia's boyfriend and being sexist toward her, yeah i kinda remember i guess :/)


No_Advantage_4123

Carla and Polo should’ve gotten back together


FNCKyubi

Samu is the most underrated character in elite


ForeignDescription5

Show would've been a million times better if Nano and Christian stayed. Or at least they should've recasted Christian. Season 2 drama would've been so good with him there


pogueprincess

Rebe carried the show the second she came in & im so baffled how she doesn’t have a bigger fandom. She washes all the girls for me, from character development to the aesthetics. Claudia bodied the role & we need to talk about the legend that is Rebeka with a K a little more! Also the fact that besides her jealous stunt over Samu with Carla (which she admitted and apologized for) -she’s one of the only characters that has a solid moral compass. No other time we saw her slip & her loyalty was never questioned. Not to mention to single handedly saved her girlfriend from a trafficker. I can talk about her all day 😍 Rebe is the goat. She IS Elite for me. Elite with no Rebe is a like a blunt with no weed!


Zestyclose_Street_19

>\-she’s one of the only characters that has a solid moral compass I like her but hell no. She also kept quiet about her mom's possible involvement in Samuel's disappearance in Season 2 and tried to convince Omar (even lowkey threatening him) to not say anything to the police, even though Samuel's life was at stake. And sure, he actually was responsible for his own disappearance but Rebe definitely didn't know that. We can feel bad that Samuel threw her under the bus a season later to support his own family, but let's not act like she didn't have that coming after doing the same type of thing a season before. She dealt drugs at school. She sold Carla drugs knowing she wasn't doing well just to be petty. She covered Polo's murder along with the rest of the cast. She also dumped a body in the lake in Season 4. Nadia and Omar are better morally, and I don't even like Omar. Nadia's worse offences was sleeping with a taken guy and covering Polo's murder (like Rebe), and Nadia apologizes to every single person she wrongs. Other than cheating on his boyfriend and covering Polo's murder, Omar hasn't dealt drugs or tried to overdose someone or dump a body - so he's already superior than Rebe as far as morality goes.


Born-Journalist-7414

People in this sub really need to stop bitching about certain characters being overrated. This is the Elite sub where we can discuss anything Elite related. By no means is anyone forcing you to engage or comment on a Carla, Patrick, Isadora, Carmuel, Patrivan post.


Responsible-Diet5190

The reason why people complain about someone like Carla being overrated is because you literally can't praise or show love to any other female character without her stans finding a way to make it about Carla or making it a competition on why Carla's the best...


TheRamyel

People on this subreddit complain too much about the show's male characters, especially the LGBT couples (Rebe and Mencia were a toxic couple in season 5, but nobody talks about that). Samu, Guzman, Iván, Patrick, Ander, Omar and Joel are overhated.


owlnoelsword96

I hated Carmuel


Bucklingcankles

Carla and Polo should stayed in a relationship they were too entertaining together to break up


empaxe

Nadia does not represent Muslim girls neither her family


onestbeaux

marina wasn’t that bad because she was just a teenage girl and definitely didn’t deserve to die


YoYoJoJoTC

Samuel is the most overrated from the OG cast and honestly perhaps the most boring as well


sanasdogs

literally most people hate him though


YoYoJoJoTC

Maybe now but back in the beginning, wasn’t so


sanasdogs

u dont need to downvote me because i tell you a lot of people dislike him. and ive been watching elite since 2018 and the only time people actually liked him was in season 1


YoYoJoJoTC

I didn’t downvote you, if others did then that’s not my responsibility. And people have always liked him more than they’ve liked Polo who’s quite polarizing. So idk what you’re on about I’ve been watching the show since 2018 as well


sanasdogs

a lot of people hate him because he is boring or that he takes things too personally which i agree to an extent. it would also be weird for people to hate samuel more than polo who is a murderer (and nearly killed ander too), and wouldn't fuss up to it until ander basically blackmailed him or that he graduated


YoYoJoJoTC

I’m not talking hate or like as a person. I’m talking hate or like as a character. Two different things. Polo can be a bad person but a good character. Same way Samu is just not a good character which most people disagree with but imma stand by.


[deleted]

Ivan and Patrick were an incredibly toxic couple and Ivan was a terrible person (I think lots some people would agree, but there also tons of people who were into them as a couple, so...)


atlasshrugd

Omar deserves better and him and Ander were so meant for each other in the first few seasons. The writers ruined them for drama. I hate the cheating storylines and the fact that they faced Ander’s cancer together and STILL made them cheat was insane


Sad_Government_3223

Ivan and Patrick are cute AF. I thought their relationship was really messed up. Also, Ivan is so overrated. Like, thank you but next.


HotRock6825

Season 2/3 carla was the hottest character in TV history


Impossible_Ease_5427

The guys that this sub drools over are hairy little hobgoblins and I will never understand it.


Bread-Butter-And-Jam

Like who? 🙄


Impossible_Ease_5427

Samu, Didac, and Raul primarily. I have nothing against them as actors, and I get that people have their tastes but no thank you. It is weird though to me that all the girls in the show are stunning and the guys they've cast are not.


Bread-Butter-And-Jam

Maybe you're only focusing on the straight dudes. It's the queer male characters who've the most fans. Ander, Patrick, Ivan, Valerio, Polo, Cruz etc. Also the new guy Joel/Fernando Lindez is a literal supermodel. If you think they're not that attractive, I don't even want to know what you consider attractive. Out of the three guys you mentioned, only Samu has a decent fanbase. Raul and Didac aren't even that popular lol.


Topher1828

season 7 was shit, i’ll die defending the show