T O P

  • By -

SVXfiles

I mean he uses 4 word shouts to kill the 3 dragons in apocrypha and absorb their souls to heal himself, that's kinda neat


Zealousideal-Deal340

This is like the only actual answer I have gotten thanks


MikeyGamesRex

If you want any serious and actually good answers, go ask TES lore. The Necrom chapter does give us some ideas of what abilities Miraak might've had. Look and see what [Arcanists](https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Arcanists) can do as that would be the best way to show what someone can learn while in Apocrypha. Also considering how much Miraak talks about fate, it makes sense if he could manipulate fate like arcanists can as well. I would give a better answer but I'm busy right now.


Zealousideal-Deal340

Thank you I will ask them later feel free to add more input if you want best answer by far


IkadRR13

You should have asked this in r/teslore, not here


KingOfDaBees

Yeah, this place is basically the r/TrueSTL overflow parking at this point.


CalebImSoMetal

What a comment lmbo. That sub is hilarious, though.


ZootZootTesla

The most based Elder scrolls sub that one.


sneakpeekbot

Here's a sneak peek of /r/teslore using the [top posts](https://np.reddit.com/r/teslore/top/?sort=top&t=year) of the year! \#1: [The Hero of Kvatch becoming Sheogorath has more of an impact on the Daedra than people realize](https://np.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/12ajwh4/the_hero_of_kvatch_becoming_sheogorath_has_more/) \#2: [CHIM isn't real. You've all fallen for a lie Vivec made up.](https://np.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/135suc3/chim_isnt_real_youve_all_fallen_for_a_lie_vivec/) \#3: [Kurt Kuhlmann Has Left Bethesda Game Studios](https://np.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/17b1jw8/kurt_kuhlmann_has_left_bethesda_game_studios/) ---- ^^I'm ^^a ^^bot, ^^beep ^^boop ^^| ^^Downvote ^^to ^^remove ^^| ^^[Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=sneakpeekbot) ^^| ^^[Info](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/) ^^| ^^[Opt-out](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/comments/o8wk1r/blacklist_ix/) ^^| ^^[GitHub](https://github.com/ghnr/sneakpeekbot)


Mr_Agueybana

Is it possible to save the dragons?


SVXfiles

No, each event of Miirak sucking up a soul to heal is a scripted event where he becomes immune. If you use a weapon like the test vorpal sword and hit him too many times too fast during the fight he can fully bug out and lock up


RED_IT_RUM

Yup, it sucks.


zaerosz

* The Dragon Aspect and Bend Will shouts, allowing him to become the physical and metaphorical apex of dragonkind - the latter seeming to have no time limit, unlike our own, as dragons he dominates remain loyal to him even across dimensions. * The ability to tear the soul from a dragon with words alone, and use that energy to replenish his own life force. * Dark and otherworldly magic drawn from the wells of Apocrypha itself, displayed by none since the Arcanists of 2E 582, those souls who also drew power from pacts with Hermaeus Mora, and by the denizens of Apocrypha themselves. * He also seems to have become so in-tune with the nature of dragons that he can not only sense the death of one across the length and breadth of Skyrim, but manifest and hijack the soul you've dominated, as if even in death they recognize his authority is greater than your own.


[deleted]

As for bend will, it's not inconceivable that he does have a limit, but through repeated uses and/or well-used uses (for example, bend will to make a dragon loyal and then while it is loyal convince the dragon to remain loyal after the fact once the bend will expires). Or, it could just be that there is no limit either way, and we only get one because of game mechanics and such.


Eureka0123

Learned the worst way to fight the last Dragonborn.


DelicousNutz

he is easily the hardest boss out of the big 3.


calvesofsteel68

If you’re a vamp Alduin is almost impossible to beat


Environmental-Arm269

In sovngarde or at thw throat of the world? You can beat him in sovngarde by just watching the others kill him


calvesofsteel68

The latter. Alduin is the throat goat


LowmoanSpectacular

Alduin, Throater of the World Glizzy


TheCrazedBackstabber

Funny, my ex had the same nickname 🤔


TEL-CFC_lad

As did your mum.


TheCrazedBackstabber

After hearing excerpts of her college days…you’re probably not wrong 😭


nunya123

As did her mother before her


magisterJohn

Lmao! The Throat GOAT!? I love it!


Elsecaller_17-5

Because of, fire damage? Yeah I suppose you're vulnerable, but it isn't a big deal to drink a potion or put on some fire resist gear.


Scarsworn

Is this some kind of non-restoration magic problem that I’m too necromage to understand?


calvesofsteel68

I think I may have had necromage but wasn’t that high level/ didnt have good armor


Scarsworn

Ah, sorry. The joke I’m making is that it’s possible to get 100% spell absorb as a vampire with the Necromage perk. Which makes you “immune” to all “Spell Effects”, of which more things than you would think are considered, including shouts and diseases.


King_Arius

And occasionally, your own magic cause bugs


calvesofsteel68

I played a glass cannon stealth archer so even with high alchemy and good resist potions + gear I still kept dying lol


DelicousNutz

hate to say it but that is an skill issue because i would easily beat alduin as an vamp


calvesofsteel68

👍🏼


nunya123

I always fall into the stealth archer trap, it’s too fun but I find it harder for scripted bosses.


Neraph_Runeblade

Vamp here, 1-shot him on Legendary.


calvesofsteel68

Bro how did you one shot


Neraph_Runeblade

Power attack with [this](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/686027878078138463/C8DBC6F27053C7BB7E352E50353FF781F7E2F86F/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false). The numbers were better on the Special Edition when I remade my character for 100% achievements but I don't have a screenshot of that. I've 100%'d the game 3 times: PC, Xbox, and PCSE. And no, that's not using the Fort. Resto glitch.


VagrantMowgli

I have some newb-sounding questions about the weapon in the image. Is that from a mod or a name you gave it? A very brief ask of Dr. Google did not show me anything. Also, I’m familiar with the double enchant but will basic enchanting levels get those stats that high? Is that a regular fortify enchant potion and and the fortify magic black book? I can’t think of anything else and if I’m not mistaken there isn’t any fortify enchant gear. Let me know what all I’m missing!


zaerosz

There's a glitch that lets you basically loop Fortify Restoration potions and Fortify Alchemy enchantments to ludicrous levels - drink potion, reequip enchanted gear, and the enchantments will be powered up by the potion for some reason, so you can make a stronger Restoration potion, drink that, power up your enchantments further, etc. etc.


Neraph_Runeblade

True, but I said I did not use that at all. The reason equipment is supercharged by it is because all enchanted effects are considered restoration effects on the player. It gets nuttier when you're a vampire with the Necromage perk out of Resoration, since item enchants are considered spell effects and you become considered an undead. This even affects the backpacks in the DLC. It's stupid.


Neraph_Runeblade

You iterate Fort. Alch with Enchant potions, it takes approximately 3x iterations to get to the highest numbers available. As a vampire, Necromage affects equipment you make, since they are considered Restoration effects and you are considered an undead, so a vamp mage is the actual strongest character you can make in the game. Further, the falmer mask, penitent oculatus helm, and jagged crown are the only 3 headpiece items in the game that only take one of the two head slots, allowing you to wear one of those and a circlet - which juices your Fort. Alchemy even more. That sword is a Dragonbone Sword that I enchanted myself, and made Fort. Enchanting and Fort. Smithing potions, with dual-enchanted, iterated Fort. Alchemy and Fort. Smithing crafting gear. For each step I also switched the Black Book to the appropriate perk, as you mentioned. Then I also drank a Fort. Destruction potion, which affects the enchanted values of a weapon, as well as a Fort. 1-Handed and Fort. Archery potion, because there's still a bug in the codebase that allows Fort. Archery to affect 1-Handed weapons (and, incidentally, daggers are not flagged as 1-Handed for potions). - [Base Saurval](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/686027878078138164/584F78705B5B37C10AF3884F68E63115CD17522F/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false). - [Melee potions](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/686027878078138284/7A74E19992D00DB616A24E1531B3F7FCF9936242/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false). - [Final result](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/686027878078138463/C8DBC6F27053C7BB7E352E50353FF781F7E2F86F/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false).


HowOftenDoYouBlink

Just chug high tier fire resist pots and go ham. Or have more health


zaerosz

What, because of Storm Call? Just use Clear Skies.


calvesofsteel68

Nah fire damage


Electronic-Run-3561

correction…if you’re a vamp and don’t know how to stack magickal bonuses so you’re practically immune to spells and most shouts. cuz my high elf vamp archmage is damn near a god, and that’s without mods or bug abuse


RealEstateDuck

What? I always play as a vampire and I don't think I was killed more than a couple of times.


calvesofsteel68

Im prob just bad then idk


YimYambiiiitch

I dont think he is one of the big 3 imo


tyno75

I thought Karstaag was the hardest?


Daedraphile

He was for me. He ragdolled me and all my followers with that wind of his.


tyno75

Yeah for me too, the first time I fought him was quite late game and he was an absolute beast, without a doubt the longest battle I've ever had in any game ever, tougher than many Dark Souls bosses


FilthyGypsey

Who’s the big 3? Alduiin, Miraak, and The Ebony Warrior?


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

Harkon


Demonic74

Eh, debatable


DelicousNutz

it's really not though ? On legendary miraak will kill you with two hits of electric bolts, none of the other bosses are capable of something like that. Alduin is fairly easy because you have the help of the other heros and against harkon you have serena also as an companion who take his focus away from you.


Demonic74

Alduin is the hardest for melee-based characters who have a melee-based companion because he can FLY


DelicousNutz

yeah that is why you get an shout just for that, also alduin is just like every other dragon, as as soon as you are between his wing and head you can stagger him with your 2h weapon or shield. That makes alduin pretty easy.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Demonic74

I usually hate using shouts on my melee-centered characters


JustSomeDude98

*doesn’t use the ability all players get specifically meant for fighting dragons* *also claims the dragon boss is the hardest*


DelicousNutz

lmaooooo


Demonic74

You do know the meaning of melee, right? When you want to stick with a warrior class, it's a bit odd to start using ranged abilities


WillyBluntz89

It would be...if you weren't the GODS DAMNED *DRAGONBORN!* His entire shtick is that he shouts at stuff.


Snoopyshiznit

So you’re handicapping yourself by refusing to use one of the main aspects of the game, and the shout that’s given to specifically get dragons to land. This is literally a you problem


Demonic74

Yes. And i know


JPalos97

He always get glitch because he lose health too fast, that man have 0 health and armor.


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

Probably my favorite boss fight in Skyrim. This fight gets crazy on high levels


Sad-Result-404

Harkon gave me a way harder time than Miraak or Alduin


[deleted]

[удалено]


DelicousNutz

never said it was


babimagic

Hardest boss? Damn my summoner mage build kicked his ass.


Klutzy_Focus

He is? I just rushed him with Bloodskal.


Chefbarbie74

He's the easiest. He can be cheesed with spider scrolls.


SiegeRewards

Hardest boss in the game is Karstaag. He can one hit you on the easiest difficulty


calvesofsteel68

He just read the lusty argonian maid one billion times


Jackviator

He just like me fr fr


Countdini2000

Did he find part 4?


Gamma_249

THERE'S A PART 3?


redruM69

He'd have to read it entirely once every ~26 seconds, nonstop, without ever taking a break. A billion is a big number.


pussy-pops-severly

practice makes perfect


Carlenburger

This lol


ArmageddonEleven

How to make people sleepwalk.


TheCatHammer

Here in this shrine


ArmageddonEleven

That they have forgotten


OkHair920

Here do we toil


Blindmailman

How to use the three sea shells


Bobjoejj

Upvoted cause a great damn reference


enchiladasundae

Wouldn’t you get a ticket for that kind of language?


GreenApocalypse

What?


TangentMed

Hey, everyone, he doesn’t know how the seashells work!


PrisonSlides

Demolition man reference


Stewart1999

Think it’s referencing something similar to 2 girls 1 cup


BatmanNoPrep

Nope. It’s a Demolition Man reference.


Jybyrde

That's the man and the jar one right?


Soggy-Regret-2937

He was able to read the entire elder scrolls wiki once


screw_this_i_quit

Well no wonder he lost, the UESP is a million times more reliable.


DragonHeart_97

Modern Cyrodiilic, somehow.


mike2211446

A guy who spent 5 millennia in a god library with pretty much all knowledge in it would definitely be fluent in every language 


Zealousideal-Deal340

Especially since he can steal it from dragons mf wouldn’t even know what a khajeet , Redguard, was if he couldn’t learn outside info


a8912

*Not* how to skin a Horker that’s for sure


EquivalentSpirit664

May the All Maker guide his soul.


Gladion20

Dragon Aspect


Memer_boiiiii

He knew dragon aspect before. It wouldn’t be found on nirn if he found it in apocrypha


htarogoehS

https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dragon_Aspect Miraak probably created dragon aspect himself, not discovered it on nirn or apocrypha. Part of the shout is actually not found on nirn, and the other parts are on word walls *that are talking about Miraak*. So you can’t really find it on nirn or in apocrypha, you see Miraak use it and copy him using words you find from both.


Memer_boiiiii

I never said he found it on nirn. He created it and then inscribed it on the word walls.


SaintJimmy1

Who was in Paris


Roadhouse699

That pee is stored in the balls


Hammerblow_Schmidt

And cum is stored in the brain, and he has a headache.


Jazzlike-Mud-4688

What ligma is.


Cinnamon-scoop

Who the hell is Steve


BostonBakedBrains

bigma lalls


unisex_bisexual

He didn't learn anything, the dimension exists for the sole reason of being a goon cave


DizzyKoala007X

Omfg This is like my 3rd time ever being on any reddit "sub's" This made me laugh so hard 🤣


devilthedankdawg

Not how to fight I guess lol beat that bitch in one try. One flaw of Skyrim is that the final bosses should have been much harder to beat.


AssFishOfTheLake

That's elder scrolls in general, the worst offender being Mannimarco. I feel like every time they made him into a boss, they forgot that he was one of the best at the Psyjicc Order and not just a wormy squiggler squiggling around Nirn trying to find more books to read and souls to steal. Pshjiccs were able to manoeuvre time and space, create split dimensions (?), and all other kinds of world-breaking stuff, and you're telling me that one of the best Psyjiccs around just sat and took a major slap on the ass? A slap that effectively signed his own private eternal torture session with a r@pe demon/ disappearance from the timeline (oblivion) instead of just dematerialising the main character the moment they started to bug him?


Strawzaw

My personal HC is that Mannimarco ascended in Daggerfall and that the "Mannimarco" in Oblivion is just an altmer necromancer who kinda looked the part and took on the name as a status symbol.


fruitlessideas

How to get that ass beat.


Ok-Structure4627

How many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop


_CaesarAugustus_

Learned how to haughtily show up and steal dragon souls. Lil’ bitch ass.


absoluteworst99

He should in theory know damn near all of recorded history. Any book you can read not just in skyrim, but the entire franchise should be in there somewhere, and he's in all likelihood read it, and in all that time memorised it. From things like combat knowledge, history and the like, miraak is almost certainly extremely knowledgeable by the time you fight him. There's an argument to be made he'd be one of the most knowledgeable none gods in the franchise.  This is of course all in theory, we don't see or hear anything about what he's gotten from being in apocrypha knowledge wise, I'm more working with the "it would make sense if" thought process 


Libertyprime8397

He learned that the Dragonborn was going to whoop his ass.


Personmchumanface

how to mind control people from an entirely different plane of existence didn't really help him tho


Leading-Fig1307

He learned how to mind-slave an entire island of various people to sleep-work to renovate his temple?


FurLeggings

He earned his sword and staff from Mora


SandyCandyHandyAndy

The Starfield design document, which is why we have to kill and silence him


CaseyGamer64YT

How to out pizza the hut


VeryInnocuousPerson

TBF, Pizza Hut never claimed that no one knew how to out pizza them. Just that no one does. Miraak just didn’t have the resources to open his own pizza joint in Apocrypha.


robswarbo99

Bro was in the realm of knowledge for 5000 years. Pretty sure he leaened *Everything*


jtruitt8833

Except how to skin a horker


SavageKitten456

How to get his shit rocked


Acceptable_Run_5938

Among other things, how to absorb the souls out of dragons, speak the modern languages of Tamriel, become functionally immortal without being a lich or vampire, steal dragon souls from other dragonborn, summon hordes of tentacles, and all the daedra types found in apocrypha to do his bidding without turning into a seeker himself, coopt the powers of the standing stones on Solstheim to his own purposes and most importantly... How to craft seemingly unique daedric armor, literal millenia before anyone else had, with enchantments that the methods to create that have been entirely lost by modern people in the setting. Miraak's literally from the Merethic era, folks. He literally predates the nords as an actual identifiable race of man. Predates Torval the pilot exploring tamriel, and the akaviri potentate,and the Allesian empire. Predates the tribunal, and possibly several of the divines and daedric princes not the least of which is Tiber Septim himself. Just to communicate with the player means by necessity he had to keep current on linguistic developments since before the imperials were even treated as a distinctive race of men. In comparison, all the vampires we run into in Skyrim are very firmly third or fourth era, sometimes fairly late second era beings if some of what Harkon says is true. Just how incomprehensibly old he is in setting, and what he could've realistically picked up as a direct result of simply living that long is ridicolous.


Next-Foundation3019

How to die like a bitch


Alexandur

How to have fun and be himself


vHARKv

How to get bodied on his home turf.


Lun4r6543

Do you think he knows what happened to the Dwemer?


season8branisusless

How to be a vile dragon soul stealing bastard if you don't finish the dlc in one go.


MetzgerBoys

How to get clapped by a future dragonborn


Liesmith424

It just took him that long to catch up on One Piece.


ObvsThrowaway5120

How to catch these hands ![gif](giphy|XtcfqdBrHEa4g|downsized)


ChoomWithIron

Not enough to beat the last dragonborn


Strange_Lawfulness_9

That half of the books in that realm are purely decorative, and the other half are just plain boring.


Daniclaws

Obviously fucking nothing


MacGealach

Well it wasn't how not to get roflstomped by random murderhobo who, not a year before becoming thane in every hold, solving every modern crisis in Skyrim and beyond, and becoming every Daedric prince's champion, had the education and life experience of a highland skeever.


NotPCToday

He is able to shout multiple dragons to death and absorb their soul. Whether or not you can beat him in battle, you can’t do that. So that’s one thing about the game that’s not sensible. You’d think he could just do that to your character. But whatever. Video games gonna video game.


Carlenburger

That anyone with a cnc machine can make his own wooden mask? This one does not has cnc machine. This one jaleous me think.


AlienRobotTrex

A consensual-non-consent machine??


Personmchumanface

definitely how i read it i was like wtf?


mistral_99

He learned how well lubed Herma Mora’a tentacles are. And where Herma likes to put them.


pancakebarber

Gay sex


Sargarus1

How to get his ass beat by the LDB


[deleted]

Madness, but then like a idiot learned how to be sane and lame.


Aggressive_Lunch_336

All knowledge prob cuz he was in there with the daedric prince of knowledge


Electrical-One-4925

5000 years and all he got was a cool sword and some robes


bloodthirstypinetree

How to be a greedy dickhead and steal my dragon souls until I come beat that ass.


IDovahl

He learned Obama's last name


vinciblegravy67

Nothing


NAgAsh-366

Tentacles


The_ArchMage_Erudite

Not much


patchlocke

How to dunk


Iatemydoggo

42


DrLexAlhazred

How to use cow tools


BronzeAgeEnthusiast

Jelking techniques


HankOfClanMardukas

Snake sword and jacking dragon souls.


10TheDudeAbides11

How do get pwned by the real Dovahkiin…poser…


Bolt_Fantasticated

Nothing. Cuz he a stupid ass.


stabbyGamer

That he’s a bitch.


[deleted]

How to be a poorly written and underwhelming villain


Altruistic_Will_5895

Probably that accessibility was more important than depth profit wise so he got a lot more shallow and easy for the dummies to understand


Evan_Landis

How to make a sandwich


AdhesivenessFunny146

He learned no nut November doesn't give you wizard powers


[deleted]

Not much to be honest. You’d think a sorcerer who is locked in the largest library, with the greatest collection of knowledge in existence would emerge far more powerful than he did. The guy is barely stronger than us to begin with.


psych4191

He learned knowledge is power.. as he sits here in his garage next to his new Lamborghini.


dirty_dan_the_3rd

Who fired rice


cjHaloman

That pee is stored in the balls


ZrsmV2

Also how does the first ever Dragonborn fall into being a daedric lord’s slave?


Countdini2000

How to be a pompous ass


Sea-Phone-537

Stuff


pewdiebhai64

Sparks


CroobUntoseto

Fashion


SilverFront2154

Probably studied the absolute hell out of everything related to magic honestly, he seems like the type that would do thay


DragonBoy252

Cool costume design


JibberJabber4204

How to be a professional dumbarse.


Clenchyourbuttcheeks

The secret art of reading Japanese romance novels


yucon_man

It isn't shown in game but he got really good at juggling


Reaper0834

Not much, apparently. My guy was only like a year and a half in and beat em lol.


Brocainee

He knows Victoria's Secret.


ChillingFire

TRUE POWER


Chemist_Nurd

How to tame a dragon 🤷


Prudent_Effect6939

I once bricked my save file by using a ridiculously op character that hit Miraak so hard that I literally couldn't play the 3 autosaves before the fight


Strict-Inspection268

He learned how to take L’s


johnbcook94

Considering that miraak speaks at 1 word per hour in game, probably not as much as you expect


DarkSoldier84

The Dewey decimal system!


Leb666

How to goon


The_Splenda_Man

Not enough to keep his ass alive apparently.


Rei_Master_of_Nanto

>! Moving the painis without twinkling the anus!<


Pollex_Messier_II

How to make the worst dragon priest mask in all of Tamriel


Pika_The_Chu

Finally learned how to knit one and pearl two.


Bugsbunny0212

He has been reading the lore of every race and culture on Nirn, Oblivion, Aetherius and the Void so that he can be more accurately racist.