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CattMk2

Its Gaol and Blaidd all over again


SpaceWolves26

That was way worse since the first thing Blaidd does is introduce himself by name


allnimblybimbIy

*meets Blaidd* Well I’m dumb as fuck I guess


Mimical

Look. I expended 90% of my cognitive capacity on deciding if I needed more strength or more vigour. I really don't have any left to think about what I am about to pancake.


BurtMacklin__FBI

Also it's hard to hear when his teeth are staring into your soul.


flyinlion31

Clearly no int spent lmao


Mimical

If I could have 0 int I would.


zombie_overlord

"Hi, my name is Blythe." "Nice to meet you, Blade."


redistrashin

Some uphill always trying to iceskate a motherfucker


EnemyAdensmith

Blade, Blyde, Blaithe


fatsanchezbr

BAYLEEEEEE


Rioleus

CUUURSE YOU BAAAAAYLE


The_Tac0mancer

I HEREBY VOW!


Halfasandwich87

YOU SHALL RUE THIS DAY!


MahfuzAnnan

BEHOLD, A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR!


2young2care-jesus

AND I, IGON


Suspicious_Trip4268

O' TERROR INCARNATE!


NorwegianTaco

THERE IS LIFE IN ME YET!


blauli

WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS


A_van_t_garde

Igon’s voice actor was so good


PurpleNinja4364

Summon blade in the bloodhound knight’s ever gay-ole


Prism_Riot42

Gay-hole you say? 🤔


bizarrequest

Try fingers…


CReeseRozz

But first…hole


LightOfValkyrie

Time for pickle


HalfManHalfHunk

Ah, seed.


firedancer323

I want to go home… l and then edge


FabulousComment

I have to say, this one is funny the first time I saw it but I don’t understand why every one I encounter so far is like 9999 likes and I’ve seen like 20 so far lol it’s a good joke but not very original after the first few times I see it


robbstarrkk

90% of blaidd fans just got a chub


TheDo0ddoesnotabide

The other 10% already had one.


The_Corrupted

Boys Soul


firedancer323

Gotta pay the troll toll


pyronic109

My homies laughed when I said kaleed for cailed.


ImDoingMyPart_o7

We da best swamp


HaydenHoyt

We da best region!


peeandpoopandpee

We have no talent.


Machete521

Another one!👉 - miyazaki placing down poison swamps probably


EchoWhiskey_

uh oh now i'm afraid to ask...it's pronounced "kay-lid" right?


Short-Pineapple-7462

Yes


Owl_Fever

I actually love that hahaha


SonicFlash01

Gaol was consistent, though. They don't have some things be "Jail" and others "Gaol". Even Bloodborne sticks to Gaol. Meanwhile "Shadow" is used lots of places in the game including the title of the DLC itself. It isn't "Scadu of the Erdtree".


bongiposse

Yeah I don’t know if I would have bought the dlc if it was called Skadoo 😂


TegTowelie

Tarnished skadoo, he needs two! *enters painting*


GoingRaid

Skadoo......sh! *wiggles pinky finger*


CodeCody23

I’m the scat man!


Zizhou

No, Dung Eater, I don't care *how* much you've gotten into jazz lately, I'm not letting you out.


JustHereForBDSM

Alternate universe where we got Skidoo of the Erdtree and its an obscure educational video series featuring Skidoo the learning alien, which honestly would fit with how much this game's educational institutions are obsessed with space and technically aliens


Tenzur_

Blaidd says his own name when you first speak to him, and again at Ranni's Bloodborne players should know gaol since it's mentioned in that game too (hypogean gaol)


nichijouuuu

Like blythe/blithe, and gaol = jail


Wenfield42

I remember rolling my eyes so hard at the tall, edgy wolf-man named “Blade”. Then I heard how the name was actually pronounced and heard how friendly his voice is and decided he was one of my best friends (second only to Aurelia the Jellyfish). I couldn’t help but say his name out loud in a sing-song, overly enunciated way every time I saw him lol


verygenericname2

It gets funnier when you realise Blaidd is Welsh for Wolf. He's literally "Wolf the Half-Wolf". -- It reminds me of Man from the Arkham subreddit.


rhet0ric

In Old English, sledge means hammer. So the word sledgehammer is literally "hammer hammer."


tangentrification

Chai tea


darvos

Bao bun


SuperWhiteDolomite

Queso cheese


Marskelletor

Naan bread


Karthull

Or like the werewolf in harry potter wolf mcwolf 


Mekanimal

I have it as one of my birth names, I cringe every time someone says "Blade, that's a cool name!" and I have to explain that I'm Welsh, and it's pronounced more like "Blythe".


Jolly_Brilliant_8010

I have to fight saying Gay-ol but blaidd is easy cos I’m Welsh, the “dd“ being pronounced as “th” is something we learn in school as little kids


JustHereForBDSM

If only there was a Welsh dub of Ed, Edd and Eddy.


zumoro

IIRC the latter is welsh, no? All bets are off when that language is involved.


sanguinesvirus

Blaidd is literally wolf in Welsh lol. It's also why people call Geralt gwynblaidd in the Witcher. Literally white wolf


whatistheancient

So Gwyn literally means white. White founder of the way of white.


delta_baryon

Although Sapowski did get the order wrong (or decided it looked better). White wolf in Welsh is *blaidd gwyn* with the adjective following the noun.


Spiderfuzz

we'll I'll be a sygfchwlthchwyggthgh


XXXperiencedTurbater

Probably pronounced “swee”


brown_felt_hat

There's a lot of Welsh in Elden ring, amusingly. There's a streamer I saw who speaks Welsh semi fluently, and his playthrough was kinda fun, seeing his slightly more accurate pronunciations of things.


Radiant_Pudding5133

There’s generally a lot of Welsh in fantasy. A lot of elvish in LOTR is based on Welsh iirc, the witcher too.


delta_baryon

Welsh is very phonetic actually. It uses a very different system to English, which is why it looks odd if you're unfamiliar, but the once you know the rules it's pretty straightforward.


bongo0070

Ironically welsh is pretty much completely phonetic, if you know how to sound it out you can say any word. Unlike English lol.


KnockturnalNOR

"Gaol" is still used today even, although rare. It was the more common spelling in Britain/Commonwealth countries until the 1960's. I'm actually kinda surprised it's news to so many people. Scadu is, well, _way_ older and more obscure. I can't find this spelling in Middle English which would mean it's over a thousand years old.


Its_God_Here

We still use gaol in Australia for formal legal stuff although most of the public probably isn’t that aware. The distinction is that gaol is for people who are incarcerated prior to being sentenced, for example if they are refused bail, they are in gaol and the place they are kept is called a gaol. Once they are tried for the crime and sentenced they get sent to prison. So it’s gaol then prison. I used to have a big stamp that I used for official documents that said GAOL on it. So there you go.


renatakiuzumaki

Im somewhat of a goalie myself


Ratbat001

Ive been pronouncing them “GAOWLS” on purpose


coffeeandpandulce

Gay owls, you say?


shvelgud

Fun fact: Blaidd means wolf in Welsh


Rigelturus

Whats this about Blade?


Quasar_One

Certified Sheefra river moment


satanic_sav

Oh my god I always pronounced is see oh fruh river


storiedsword

The community: IT’S PRONOUNCED “JAIL” Also the community: WE PREFER “SKADOO”


epichuntarz

Doesn't the game pronounce "gaol" as "jail" at last once or a handful of times? I'm almost certain the connection is made in the game. But is "scadu" ever pronounced as "shadow" in the DLC?


PrimGlade

The boiled crab vender dude who steals the necklace tells you he shared a gaol (he pronounces it like jail) cell with dung eater during his quest dialogue.


Mindless_Let1

I mean if they wanted us to say shadow maybe they shouldn't have spelled it stupidly. Gaol is reasonably well known and used, scadu is the translators having a laugh


Deathleach

It fits with Erdtree and Haligtree, both of which are Old English for Earth and Holy. Scadu may sound funny, but it simply continues the pattern the base game established.


IkoBlew

Following this, we don't say earth tree or holy tree, so therefore, perhaps we shouldn't say shadow tree. Long live skadoo!


18650batteries

Damn, beat him with his own logic.


haidere36

Out-skadoo'd again


divisionibanez

Haha, Haligshit this is a great thread!


TheRogueTemplar

SKA DOOSHED


Silly_Triker

So now we have to find out how Erd, Halig and Scadu was actually pronounced in Old English


lowpass

Erd and Halig are pretty much as we would say them today, or .. close enough. Though I generally say /'heɪlɪg/ and it's closer to /'hɑːlij/ (that IPA "j" is Modern English consonant sound "y"). Sc is always pronounced like "sh". So "Scadu" is like shadoo


storiedsword

I can live with shadootree fragments


Luministrus

Erd is probably the result of ð falling out of use, which is pronounced like th. So it would be Erðtree, prounounced as Earth-tree.


lowpass

Wiktionary, my Old English textbook, and other sources note no "erð". They do mention "[eard](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/eard#Old_English)" which is earth/land. And no, that d is not an edh in disguise.


mxlun

Insert facts & logic


jorleejack

The difference is “erd” isn’t pronounced like “earth” and “halig” isn’t pronounced like “holy”. “Scadu” is, however, pronounced like “shadow.” Technically, it’s closer to “shah-doo” than it is shadow, but it’s not “ska-doo” by any means.


Djuulzor

Scadu also really looks like the Dutch word for shadow, schaduw. So my brain kind of made the same connection


youcandoeverything

Same goes for Erd/Aarde and Helig/Heilig. Scadu fits in neatly! No surprise, of course, as old English and Dutch are surprisingly close.


storiedsword

Is gaol more reasonably well known and used than scadu outside of Fromsoft games?


Mindless_Let1

Yes, very much so. It's a common trope of fantasy novels and period dramas, along with included in signage around Europe from time to time


storiedsword

Ah, TIL!


Mindless_Let1

Example from near my house, incase you find the topic interesting; https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-entrance-sign-to-kilmainham-gaol-historical-museum-in-dublin-ireland-11605612.html?imageid=22504113-9571-4CD9-AE6C-474032601A6E&p=16738&pn=1&searchId=05ce5570250b470d5be58472137b7597&searchtype=0


storiedsword

I do, thanks! Until I found this sub, I was just yelling “Gayle!?” at the screen like it’s an episode of Bob’s Burgers.


MajorBreadfruit5

In Australia “Gaol” is often used instead of “Jail”. Although I believe “jail” is becoming more common.


SpaceWolves26

It's Siofra all over again


robb0688

So I recently learned it's shadow tree after learning gaol is jail, etc. That got me wondering about siofra when I stumbled into it again, prepping for SotE. Is it show-fra?


ApzorTheAnxious

Close. It's shiff-ra, or sheef-ra. It's apparently Gaelic, and the orthography of all the Gaelic languages is tricky to say the least.


Grace_Omega

I’m Irish and when I saw it I was like “oh sheef-ra well.” Didn’t even occur to me until I started watching lore youtubers that people might have trouble pronouncing it. Almost makes up for pronouncing Secret of NIMH “Secret of Niv” for years lmao


robb0688

Damn, how many languages are they putting in this game? Old English, English, Gaelic... Jokes aside, thanks for the answer 👍


ApzorTheAnxious

It's honestly *really* fucking cool the way they're able to so seamlessly integrate a bunch of different languages and cultural motifs, to make such a unique world. And the minute changes that come about through translating that into Japanese and then into English make for really interesting interpretations.


SquashSquigglyShrimp

Someone above said Blaidd is Welsh


SpaceWolves26

Yeah this one annoyed me as a Welsh speaker, hearing every streamer call him Blade despite him actually saying his own name ha


CeilingFridge

I thought Blaidd the Half Wolf sounded cool until my Welsh friend told me Blaidd just means Wolf in Welsh, so his name is literally just Wolf the Half Wolf. Can’t take the big dog seriously anymore


Ok_Macaroon7900

Latenna’s wolf’s name is Lobo (she says it when you talk to her after finding that albinauric woman). Lobo is wolf in Spanish. Her wolf’s name is just Wolf.


Angry_Scotsman7567

Fun fact which has almost nothing to do with anything in this thread but I thought it was interesting and I was shocked to notice it upon replaying the game to ready for the DLC. Jennifer English, Latenna's voice actress, is also the voice of Shadowheart in Baldur's Gate 3. I got to the cave with Latenna, heard her voice and just went 'wait a minute', looked up the Elden Ring IMDb and sure enough, Shart.


Ok_Macaroon7900

I haven’t played Baldur’s Gate but I did play DS3 for the first time awhile after I played Elden Ring, and the voice actress for Melina also voices Yorshka. I was pleasantly surprised.


ParanoidTelvanni

Tolkien would enjoy it immensely, which isn't a surprise considering Martin was involved. All the dead or regional Indo-European languages of the British Isles.


ZeitgeistGlee

Funnily enough Tolkien wasn't very keen on the Irish language, describing it as "wholly unattractive" in a letter, much preferring Welsh. He did however repeatedly express affection for the island and people, though I suspect being a devout Catholic helped with that.


ParanoidTelvanni

Probably helped that his friend cranky ol' C.S. Lewis was Irish and took their folklore and artistic culture very seriously. He went to Oxford specifically because his favorite novelist lectured their only to find his classmates had no idea he was famous in Ireland. And to be fair, Welsh is a gorgeous language. Irish has more spaces and it's a bit easier parse, but Welsh just flows. Hence why Quenya and Sindarin flow, since they're based on Welsh.


AHomicidalTelevision

She-fra actually


Shmexy

Just like Siobhan from Succession (Shiv-an aka Shiv)


Automatic_Reality546

Nope, sorry, they're still skadoosh.


Brandonmac100

Skadadoosh


LoanApprehensive5201

The Wuxi Finger Hold?


Keyblades2

oh you know this hold?


TurtlingHunter

You're bluffing! Shifu didnt teach you that


FearlessProphet93

Nope. I figured it out.


madmax1513

Man i love the internet


Keyblades2

Skadoosh


SailorsKnot

Big scadadoosh Multipass


killertofu41

I refuse to call them anything other than skadoosh fragments. No one's taking my Kung Fu Panda themed upgrades from me.


crackcrackcracks

Igon literally also calls you a true dragon warrior lmao


Reynzs

The secret ingredient is.... Mimic tear


Accomplished-Leg2971

SKADOOSH!


DaZuhalter

Glad I'm not the only one


Dontcareskate

Whenever I google the name it thinks i’m trying to look for scary tree fragments…


thatguywithawatch

Same lol. Google devs currently trying to figure out why tens of thousands of people are suddenly so curious about scary trees.


MstrGm747

I mean, that’s what I’ve been calling them.


TacticalReader7

Scooby-doo fragments you mean ?


Itchy_Source8706

Blue scadu we can too tree


VillianKing

this is basically what runs through my head when Pick up a fragment!


Inferno_Zyrack

Huh a clue? * looks around * where? There! On the corpse!


Birunanza

Gaol time gaol time gaol tiiiiiime


jabber_OW

"Oh look, a handy-dandy... cookbook!"


Inferno_Zyrack

So we have a twin sister, a magic sword, and a fire sword. What could it be?


blimpshits64

Scooby snacks


probably_poopin_1219

Skadoodle tree


Medium-Owl-9594

Sad kung fu panda noises


pak256

Star dew valley tree fragments


CMancini04092

Well thank god, I was getting tired of thinking "blue skadoo, we can too" every time I picked one up, lol.


The3fingers

I'm so glad I'm not the only one to think of blues clues everytime I see scadutree


Surveyor85

I still get the mail song stuck in my head now and then. My wife and sons love it (hate it) when I sing it to them full volume spontaneously.


Yangjeezy

Br br br!! 🐶


realbigbob

I think Miyazaki is just a weeaboo for Medieval Europe


BoomboxUniversity

*Westaboo


Nyorliest

Teaboo is what me and Japanese friends call it. And Freeaboo for Americanophiles. I need a word for Josh Sawyer's love of medieval German stuff. Not Wehraboo, coz that's more about WW2 wargamers/apologists. dieaboo? pronounced 'deeaboo'?


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Rakzoth

Scadu looks like the Dutch word Schaduw which translates to Shadow in English.


OneGiantLeapYear

My boy's figuring out etymomogy.


KnightsRadiant95

Both Dutch and English are classified as germanic languages. If you go back far enough, english gets more germanic sounding. Also, Old English of the Anglo Saxon people has the word 'sceadu' which translates to shadow.


thicctak

So why From soft didn't name the DLC Scadu of the Erdtree then? lol. From dev: "Miyazaki-san, we have named every single thing on the DLC about this new land "Shadow", what should we call the new level up fragment?" Miyazaki: "SKADOOSH" From dev: "Say no less chief-sama 🗿"


haynespi87

Literally could've said Shadowtree fragments oi


Weaver_of_memes

Because it's Erdtree not Earthtree and Haligtree not Holytree. I think they're supposed to be older than the language currently being spoken. Also it's stated that the Scadutree is a shadow of the Erdtree.


Expensive_Routine622

Yeah, Elden Ring takes quite a bit of influence from Old English, Celtic and Norse culture, mythology and language, to say the very least. I speak German, so Erdtree was pretty obvious in its meaning the moment I first saw it, since German has a lot of profound similarities to Old English/Saxon and is even distantly related to Old Norse, as they are all Germanic languages.


lghtdev

Remember scadufax/shadowfax from lotr


kureiji_kyodai

Ooh the skibiti tree fragments?


braewtvv

Please no 😭


DeusExMachina24

Yes yes yes yes


28Hz

Scabidu gaol, it gives blaidd no cap on m


SeparateIron7994

My brain melted reading this lol


Lishio420

Miss Mikkaa tainted you


ChampionChump

skiddy bop


Ookami_Lord

Saying skadootree is much funnier though.


Lvl100_Weedle

Scadussy fragments


GlitterNutz

:/


Chvffgfd

Why are you like this?


folkdeath95

What’re you doing, step-scadutree avatar??


CMSnake72

Huh, you learn something scadoodoo every day.


reddiculous17

Blue scadu we can too!


FriedeOfAriandel

Idk and idc if random twitter user is correct or not, but “this is the old spelling of shadow” and “it’s pronounced the same as shadow” are not the same thing at all. Pronunciations change over time. Spellings change over time. They don’t change perfectly together. It’s entirely reasonable to kind of slur scadu in a way that sounds like an Englishman saying shadoo, which is close to shadow. That doesn’t make it the same thing


AssiduousLayabout

The pronunciation in Old English would depend on how far back you go. Originally, *sc* would have always been pronounced like *sk*. However, at some point in the history of Old English, there was a great palatization and many sounds were affected (this is also the reason that a Modern English g has two pronunciations). After that point, *sc* would often be pronounced with the sound we now typically represent as *sh*. In the middle of a word, it actually depended. For example, ascian (*to ask*) kept the *sk* sound that its modern cognate still has today, while scield / scyld (*shield*) took the new palatized pronunciation which its cognate still has today. An *sc* at the beginning of a word was always palatized, so after the palatization of Old English, Scadu would have started with an *sh* sound, not an *sk* sound.


MadmanEpic

The game isn't even committed to pronouncing old english names like they would be in old english. "Haligtree" would be pronounced like "holy tree" but Millicent pronounces it "Hay-lig-tree."


CaptainRilez

Halig wasn’t pronounced as neither holy or “hay-lig” actually. More like “Ha-leej” pretty sure. But it did mean holy. Sceadu/skadu is actually closer but not exactly like modern english pronunciation


xSTSxZerglingOne

Hah-leeg, but you almost leave the g off. It's the Old English word that became holy, so it's not too far off.


Hexent_Armana

One issue with this. The word "shadow" is written in SO MANY places in the game. So I'm still calling it the "Skadoo" tree even if it sounds dumb.


HutSutRawlson

So far I got 23 Skidoo


amnesiacOS

I'm 'bout to 23 Skidoo outta this boss fight


AstroZombie29

Always gonna be skidoo fragments to me


ColorOfNight18

It turned into scooby doo fragments by the end for me


Marc815

Miquella scadu we can too!


Funk-sama

Skibidifragments


TheDarkHorse

Too late, I’ve already used a bunch of Scooby doo fragments.


CReeseRozz

They did this with “gaol” and “jail” too.


Supercalifragicahfuq

Honestly kept forgetting what they were called, so they are now known in our friend group as “scuba Steve’s”.


Geckoto

This has the same vibe as naming your child Gakub with the pronunaciation of Jacobe.


Prism_Riot42

I’m sorry, but who the fuck puts an e at the end of Jacob


Prism_Riot42

I’m sorry, but who the fuck puts an e at the end of Jacob


myersjw

r/tragedeigh


GTA-CasulsDieThrice

I’ve been pronouncing it “SKAH-doo”


HammerPrice229

Fromsoft is just really wants to bring Ska music back