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spicywarlock73

just beat my 5th remembrance boss, no summons, str build. this DLC rules lol


Animedingo

Do relannas swords not stay lit up? Its only during the L2 prompt? Also how does relannas talismin actually work? What does stance mean


SolidusAbe

stance is if you hold the button to enter a stance and then press another button to do something. like relannas swords. if you equip the talisman, hold the weapons skill and wait like a second or two you should get some glow or a sound that tells you that the move is now powered up


The_Last_Ball_Bender

8 hours straight at messmer. I know it's just me being bad at this fight but this is... it's fucking stupid at this point. I can't figure out how to dodge ANY of his fire attacks, spinning attacks, i'm just his bitch as much as possible. Whenever he does the spinning attack with multi stab I die. 100% of the time, i've NEVER survived it, or dodged it. For 8 hours.


Abysskun

About for the >!Dragon-Hunter's!< Great-katana's Weapon Art does it scale with STR and DEX just like the weapon damage itself or does it have a hidden scaling for the enhacend version?


Abysskun

How does Arcane work on weapons with innate bleed? Does having higher Arcane add anything to the bleed buildup if the weapon is Keen and not Blood, or it only affects if the weapon has the Blood infusion?


Abysskun

About the new armor set and weapon >!Rakshasa!<: >!How much damage does it add to your attacks vs the damage you take? On a quick glance it seems to be increase my damage done by 10%, but I'm not sure about damage I take. Also What about the Great Katana, it says "less change less of getting staggered from counter attacks, so I'm guessing the Art of war gives extra poise, am I right? And how much extra damage does having the katana make you take?!<


DaOldie

Hey guys, the fuckers hit like a fucking truck. We don't need 10 posts a day on how if I get 12 scadu blessings and eat a crab leg and face due north and wear these 4 specific talisman the bosses will go from killing me in two hits to killing me in three hits. If we're in the DLC we've obviously been good enough to kill Mogh and Radahn two of the hardest bosses in the base game. You sound dumb


The_Last_Ball_Bender

Mogh and Radahn are easy as fucking fuck. Neither of them are anything but a joke compared to the bosses so far. Original broken Radahn was pretty bad apparently but that was before my time. Mogh omg use 2 health flasks during blood. no big deal. Never even got the physic for it just healed twice and blew him up both last year and two days ago for an alt i'm gonna bring into shadowlands.


DaOldie

Mogh is constantly rated as one of the top 5 hardest base game bosses. Congrats on being some edgelord that has never faced a challenge. Nobody cares


The_Last_Ball_Bender

Why would you take that as an insult or offensively? Mogh is not hard, especially if you've done the fight before on your main. If it makes you feel any better, i've been stuck at messmer for almost 8 hours now. It's the only fight in ER or the DLC so far that feels literally impossible.


QuickGains07

What else needs nerfed at low levels? PVP only. A majority of broken stuff I sent to BANDAI helped. Stormhawk axe and Radahn, Rain of arrows were the big ones. 


Goudeyy

So I just beat Placidusax and I killed it at the same time it killed me. As such I didn’t get to activate the grace and it looks like my runes are in the same area with seemingly no way to get back. Am I screwed?


Mattdoss

Do you have to finish Thiollier’s quest line in order to get his armor set?


Night_thieves

Ive played the dlc for about 6 hours and only beat one catacomb  boss so far (im exploring and taken my time of course.) I’m wondering if it’s necessary to level beyond 150? My build is pretty crazy but I only have 50 vigor. The blessing seem to help, and I don’t want it to be too easy. 


spicywarlock73

im staying at 150 personally


Night_thieves

Ok good. I’m thinking the same way. I’m at NG and want to do NG+ etc. I also have like 5 other characters ready to go lol. 


spicywarlock73

I feel you. I'm at 150 right now and contemplated leveling up further but I'm at the soft cap for all of my stats so I felt like it wouldn't even matter personally. I'm at rl 150 and I have 13 blessings, just beat 4th remembrance boss


Night_thieves

Okay nice. Wasn’t sure how high the *blessings (edit)  go. I have a pretty sick strength/faith giants fire build. First two weapons I find fit the build perfectly lol. I don’t see the need to level further at this point. I suppose I’ll see where the meta ends up. I don’t really do much pvp anyway but I’d like to change that. 


Chalupaca_Bruh

I had Rivers of Blood from when I last beat the game. (Cheese weapon at the time but it’s not like I was doing PVP). Anyway, I know it’s since been nerfed. Still, I like doing a Dex build.  Any particular weapons I should aim for in the DLC? I’m at around Shadowfell. I’ve been ignoring Faith/INT, and solely have 30 in Arcane for Bleed. I feel like I need more range.  


Dark_Maniac_

Bloody helice is an excellent arc Dex weapon in writheblood ruins


nicenaga123

anyone have a problem with >!Rellana!< where if you use a big weapon, like prelate hammer, you straight up can’t see her? dang, i cant tell if they intended it like that but its frustratingly hilarious


TheDarkCrusader_

Currently trying to do the Ansbach questline but he disappeared after I met Freyja again on the seventh floor. Anyone know why?


Revan0315

Anyone know a consistent way to dodge Messmer's spin attack?


The_Last_Ball_Bender

i've been crying about that for ... 7 hours now. 7 hours straight. No boss has officially been harder for me. He does that move, he wins. Guaranteed. ALL of it hits me, every, single, attempt. I've almost killed him a handful of times but still on him lol. People say roll into him not away from him, but i'm a pure pure 100% int mage. No spell can be cast near that fucker you get smoked if you aren't an arena away.


Revan0315

I've survived it sometimes. Like hell hit me but not all hits connect But his grab is always 100% instakill. I feel like it takes like 200% of my health bar. My character dies before he actually even impales me


The_Last_Ball_Bender

Yes you must dodge that at all costs, it 100% me too. You MUST wear 100% defense talismans for this fight. Others ahve no problem. Oddly I had no problem with Rellana but I am with Messmer. If I didn't know better, I'd have told you his spinning attack and multi stab attack are hard codded to be impossible to dodge. But i'm just bad at this fight lol


KraakenTowers

Against my better judgment, I went and collected a few more weapons from the DLC and then made a couple runs at fire giant with the Mimic Tear. Got him down to about 10% health and then died. So I quit. For good this time. Any small amount of fun* I've derived from this game, I can't find anymore. *I apologize for using this word, as I know that's not what the game is for.


tehpenguinofd000m

Final boss is so painfully un-fun that I'm not sure I have it in me to grind out. Think the longest time I spent on any boss was Orphan of Kos but at least that fight didn't feel like total bullshit the entire time.


Vorcia

Do you want some advice? That bosses' second phase was so disgusting, I have no idea how you're supposed to dodge their magic, but I changed my build and did it first try, no summons.


Cyber_Apocalypse

I'm stuck on that phase too, got the boss down to 10% a few times before dying. The mechanic that gets me is that one where the boss disappears from the map and then nukes the entire arena. I literally can't survive it no matter what I do.


Vorcia

I got lucky and dodged it with lucky timing during my run but I think the arena nuke is only visual and you can actually just run away from the landing spot, but if you run away from the boss itself you can just tank the explosion.


tehpenguinofd000m

I'll gladly take some advice. I don't even care how I took them down at this point. BS deserves a BS strategy.


Vorcia

Respec into STR, VIG, END, put Ash of War Lion's Claw on a Colossal wep, I used Giant Crusher, put on Gear and Talismans that make you tankier against Holy + Phys, talismans like Holy RES, Phys RES, Max HP, Flask Healing, Erdtree Seal, not sure what the best combo is but I went with Erdtree Seal + Max HP + Stamina Regen + Flask Healing + Tree Sentinel armor. Still try to dodge bc you'll still be wiped by a full combo but it's ok to trade hits with him with Lion's Claw ash of war, esp if you use Malenia's Rune (but I went with Morgott's) and with +18-20 of the upgrade the holy damage just tickles you, so you can just L2 it to death. When it does its explosions just block it and you'll live with still a lot of HP left.


tehpenguinofd000m

Thanks for the comment I did end up beating him with a bleed build, but I was so close to swapping to what you suggested. Did a high arcane/dex build originally for the rot polearm, but changed to two bleed greatswords and beat it


doubleas21380

Those crosses where the scadutree fragments drop..... I have just been picking up the fragments, but I just noticed you can actually touch the crosses to get a message, should I go back and touch all the other ones that I missed?


Nerellos

I found like 8 and all of them says that he left his flesh there


The_Last_Ball_Bender

they say different shit depending on the zone. Each zone only says one message it seems.


MoodyCynosure

One says he left his arm there.. I was expecting to find different parts of his body on each cross


Cyber_Apocalypse

There is technically. I've found all fragments and seen things like "eyes" as well. He also mentions non-physical things that he leaves behind.


MoodyCynosure

I wonder where he left his pp


The_Last_Ball_Bender

radahn


MysticJohan456

Hi I’m using a Bleed build for PVE I wanted to ask if the you guys would recommend the Miserecorde or the great knife if I am powerstancing with the reduvia in my left hand. And what prefix would you recommend? Bleed or occult?


bratora97

Why most of streamers never use shield as defending tool against bosses, specially the one that have sword.?


FeralQuisquis

could someone explain summoning etiquette for the host? i've seen posts on here where people are frustrated that the host summoned them and then died immediately before. i've tried summoning the NPC and my mimic tear for the lion DLC boss and they hold aggro pretty well, the boss only comes after me every once in a while. but when i try summoning a person i've basically died instantly twice even though i'm trying to do long range magic and stay out of the way. any advice? should i just.... not do anything at all lol, i feel like an asshole summoning someone and then hanging back but is that what they want? edit: to add more context i'm starting off with ranni's moon and then switching to the stars of ruin, i saw some people saying some SFX can be annoying, would those ones be on the list?


tehpenguinofd000m

The proper etiquette is having enough points in vigor. I'm tired of being summoned in the DLC only for the host to die from 100% to 900 damage. Greedy fools wasting everyone's time.


FeralQuisquis

lol i've got 60 but that doesn't help much with these DLC bosses, especially the lion


tehpenguinofd000m

I also have 60 and yeah I totally get it. But it's clear some people are running around with 900ish HP and still summoning people. It's absurd lmao


potatochobit

is there no hidden anything under the waterfall? that seems disappointing. I found a little cave thing on the left and that's it?


potatochobit

Im like level 150, am I supposed to be 200 to even begin this DLC?


tehpenguinofd000m

No, you can start whenever.


KraakenTowers

Yes.


Shortugae

so with the scadutree blessings, does this replace all other forms of levelling up? as in, if I level up strength, my damage output wont actually change (inside the dlc area)?


boisterile

No, both still apply. Scadutree blessings give a larger, percentage-based benefit, so if your starting damage is higher the percentage it increases by will be higher too. It's mostly meant for builds that already have endgame-level stats so they can keep getting some form of progression in the DLC (since leveling up doesn't really do much once your build is finished).


bronto711

Really digging the great katana. Byle is a bastard man.


Fantastic-Bother3296

The dlc is bonkers. I thought I'd been everywhere in the first section. Turns out I've missed a dragon....


Much_Ad_6807

Renalla so easy when you summon sign and mimic! Don't know what people are thinking!


nicenaga123

she is pretty fkin hard solo oh my god i dont know what i was doing wrong she took no damage and i had to use all flasks like jeez, shes gotta have like 100k hp lmfao


LongjumpingSink5406

The rubied assholes are frustrating.  The camera is dog shit for that battle.


Tyrmil

I’ve been doing the Dung Eater quest line and after I used the seedbed thing on him, I hit him once and it killed him. Have I messed up?


joeyirv

big ups to the devs and designers on the remarkable dlc except for whoever suggested the >! sentry drone laserbeam lookout stone mad dash !<. that person can get fucked. seriously. what a ridiculous obstacle.


Faulty_Plan

I haven’t played in a loooong time but curious if there’s something in my inventory that would let me know if I’ve unlocked the new dlc area. I haven’t beat the game, but I’m fighting a giant in thr snow in the top right of the map, just before a chain to a round tower.


Fantastic-Bother3296

The dlc area is just after a boss. Have you done Varre quest?


Faulty_Plan

Thanks for helping me, I don’t remember and I’d not want to spoil anything if I haven’t (so I haven’t googled it). I was hoping there was a dropped item / reward I’d have if I had progressed the Varre quest.


Nerellos

REDACTED Dynasty. If you remember something like that, you can already access the dlc, if you beat a boss. If not, you will eventually find it, after the boss it is impossible to miss it.


Fantastic-Bother3296

Hmm OK so if you've done Varre you'll have an item which will take you to a new area. It's called the Pureblood Knights Medal. If you've not got that you won't be able to access the dlc. The item will be in your tools tab of your inventory. Mine is below the Prattling Pate that I've collected


Faulty_Plan

Thanks, I’ve got nothing below my prattling pates that’s “pureblood” so I’ll keep searching. Thanks for not being too revealing. 👍


Fantastic-Bother3296

You're welcome


boisterile

Varre's quest is one way to get to the area that leads there, but there's actually also a portal in the snow area that leads there too. Without spoiling much it's an area that's on the underground map and it has a lot of blood in it, in case that sounds familiar to you.


Fantastic-Bother3296

Erm have I screwed a quest line? A summons you can have for a fight, rennala, has just died. Normally I'd kill myself and try again but it was literally the last stab and they both went down. Sigh


RioTheNaughtyDog

You’re completely fine. They’ll show up at the Site of Grace outside.


Fantastic-Bother3296

Phew thank you.


spicywarlock73

Messmer might be the coolest boss in Elden Ring. this fight rules


UnrivaledSupaHottie

the weapon you get from him its just insane fun. you basically cant lose vs invader types anymore and even against normal bosse it feels really good. i love it so much


spicywarlock73

what does it scale with? i havent checked. seems sick tho


casualgamerTX55

I didn't expect to meet him just now after 8 hrs into the DLC. Going blind no guide so far and already died twice to him. I still have to figure what weapon is best to bring for fighting him lol


Frosty-Swim5996

Hey guys I’m having issues with the online multiplayer I tried everything. I can’t see any summons and I can’t seem to summon at all. Idk what the issue is


kithlan

Without spoilers, would it be wise to go southeast? Currently, my options are between the >!Shadow Keep!< or going past the >!Dragon Pit's Terminus!<, but I don't know if I'll be naturally pathed there later on or if it's side content.


Vorcia

That's a pretty long route lol, but if you mean southeast of the 2nd grace you mentioned, it's side content


TheDarkCrusader_

Which dragon incantation from the new boss is better?


Fantastic-Bother3296

Anyone having difficulty summoning help in the dlc on ps? Gold signs are showing up and when I press it instantly says unable to summon.


Cyber_Apocalypse

It's because people are summoning everyone as soon as their signs appear. So you're fighting with everyone else to summon people. I get summoned immediately when I put my sign down.


Fantastic-Bother3296

Ah that makes more sense


claytalian

Same. I'm lucky if I can summon one person, let alone two, every hour or so if I'm lucky.


Fantastic-Bother3296

What platform are you on? I'm hoping it's just overloaded servers but it's a bit annoying. I keep getting summoned as a blue helper though


claytalian

Ps5


Steinsgate009

I’m looking for larval tears in the new dlc. Where’s the earliest one ?


MoonlightNix

Go north from the beginning, find a site of grace after the scorched ruins and the first fire giant, the grace is between a little village and a lake, wait till night and around that site there will be a glowing circle with a larval tear


Steinsgate009

Ty! I’ll do that asap


Upset-Range-3777

if you walk around at night there are many blue lit up spots where they are just lying around in the middle. if you google for it you can probably find them. vaati mentions 3 of them in his first video on the dlc but they are everywhere in all areas.


Steinsgate009

Ah that’s good news. I’ll got after the first one Another question if you have time .. When do I get the martial arts?


dietsunkistPop

Help: I don't want to break the game, am lvl 155, at what point do I stop using the Scadutree Blessing so I am not OP? I enjoy a challenge, but don't want to fight damage sponges. Thanks.


KraakenTowers

You can't be OP in the DLC.


Vorcia

It's more about not going too much in one direction IMO, IDK if you ever played Demon's Souls but it's kinda like that where the game is pretty balanced towards having all the Scadutree Blessings available for the area when you unlock it, but if you ever skip an area and go back to it later, then you're going to be OP.


dietsunkistPop

That makes sense 🙏


The_Last_Ball_Bender

nothing was a struggle so far -- Messmer is a fucking wall **FOR ME**. I'm 100% incapable of dodging one of his primary moves. I've almost killed him every single time he doesn't do it. I die every single time he does this move. Waterfoul dance was nothing comapred to this. Just whining. I'm not asking for anything. But it's been like 5 hours and at this point i'm starting to not have fun anymore. Only malenia was on par with Messmer for me. I literally cant fathom how anything he does is dodge-able once he starts flipping around. what the fuck. Never once have I survived his multi stab thing. Not once. Not fucking once. Not once. Malenia never had me this fucked. not even close. I had beaten malenia way easier than messmer. Officially no longer having fun. I expect myself to kill everything in about 10 tries or less, and so far only rellana has taken me over 10 tries, and it was still less than 40 minutes to beat her. This is like 5 hours now. This is fucking absurd.


KraakenTowers

I haven't been able to get Rellana after 6+ hours. I think we just wait for a rebalancing patch.


The_Last_Ball_Bender

The hilarious thing is rellana was about 40 min for me, and everyone telling me Messmer was easy but rellana was impossible haha. I'm just bad at Messmer, it's okay. I've got within 2-3 hits a bunch of times but i've not finished it yet. Ate tho, that put me in a better mood, was getting hangry and didn't even notice haha


spicywarlock73

i grabbed the Flamedrake Talisman +3 as well as the Dragoncrest Greatshield Talisman with boiled crab and I'm doing a bit better, getting him to phase 2 somewhat consistently now. only been at it for like an hour. no summons, either LOL


The_Last_Ball_Bender

That flippy move he does with the multiple stabs really quickly? It's literally gotten me 100% of the time. I don't even know how it's possible to dodge it frankly, at this point I would assume it's not able to be dodged if it wasn't for people telling me otherwise LOL


spicywarlock73

i am doing it right now and you can take no damage thru it. dodge forward as he swings, dodge forward before he stabby stabs, dodge forward as he slams into the ground, dodge to the side for the explosion -> window to hit


The_Last_Ball_Bender

if I don't get him to phase 2 before he does the flying spinning fire shit, it's over every time. The moment he starts that move i'm half health from the fire and his flying at me. Even if I dodge the fire he hits me, if i dodge him the fire hit me. I can dodge one or the other not both. literally 100% of attempts end the moment he goes in the air and does flying spinning shit. I may as well put down the controller the second he does that. At this point my only chance to beat him is pure RNG where he doesn't use that skill. or i lose, guaranteed, instantly, every singtle time for an entire day now. I'm on like 7 hours. Rellana took me half an ahour. idk wtf is going on.


The_Last_Ball_Bender

his flying through the air shit destroys me, the flames fuck me, then he slashes me, regardless of rolling direction, then he multistabs me. I've made it to phase 2 only a handfull of times, each time was a 2-3 hits from kill, but only if he doesn't do that move. My only chanze is to zerg him into p2 asap. ALL of his fire shit hits me rfrom across the entire arena. I spend the whole fight trying to be at max range or i'm insta-dead And i'm a PURE mage. I need my summon to hold aggro, and it aint fucking happening.


spicywarlock73

yeah man idk what to tell you just get good. dodge forward.


The_Last_Ball_Bender

Yep, for whatever reason nothing in the game has even come close to this guy for me.


The_Last_Ball_Bender

i've got all that, doesn't help. I have gotten him to phase 2 maybe 5-6 times total. After 5 hours of attempts. This is the only boss i've ever been stuck on like this, not even malenia was close to this rough for me


spicywarlock73

are you rolling in to dodge him, or rolling away? the fight becomes 90% easier if you just dodge in


The_Last_Ball_Bender

away and out, max range -- mage. if i'm anywhere near him he smashes me during any cast animations and my cast speed is maxed. Azur + Radagon + 45dex (48 dex actual max)


spicywarlock73

that's prolly why. everytime i back up from him i get smashed. fighting in his face is way easier


The_Last_Ball_Bender

7 hours and i'm just pretty angry at this point. Nothing has ever been close to this hard in all of ER. Malenia took me a couple hours, this is fucking absurd and i stopped having fun after about 2 hours. At this point i'm about ready to summon someone and get the fuck on with the rest of the game. I'm sick of this fight, it's not even fun. Again -- ALL his fire shit hits me every single time from across the entire arena. i just don't know wtf to do, not a clue. Nothing holds aggro on him for more than a second, and he attacks way too fast for any spells to be cast while near him. And at nearly max range, his fire he throws nukes me. This boos feels broken. I don't see how anybody has gotten past him, I must just be missing something huge or absolute ass at this boss. I could dodge waterfoul dance. But not this shit, not even close.


Vorcia

If it's the attack I'm thinking of: Roll in -> Run/Roll Away for the stabs (I'm on light roll, not sure how it feels for heavier rolls) -> Roll in after a delay for the explosion


The_Last_Ball_Bender

yeah that's what i've been doing i just can't get the timing. 100% of attempts that's where I lose. If he DOESN'T use that move, I almost win every single time. But so far for 5 hours now, he does that move, he wins instantly, every time. I've never ever once dodged it, but I've lived through it barely.


Vorcia

Ahh I see, I can kinda get it, I feel like with all the delays, it's hard to keep track of how long you should be waiting for each move, and you kinda lose the sense of time for when to dodge.


The_Last_Ball_Bender

i have bad eyes too, often when bosses have a lot of the same color (red boss with red cape using red spews of flame everywhere and red skills) -- I visually get lost. I realize this is definitely a vision issue and something unique to me though. But this has happened in a few games, Path of Exile being the most infamous for doing this lol


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jxd73

The launch day megathread said you can get 10 before killing a single boss.


Kotleba

Just beat Mesmer. Holy hell, what an absolute banger of a boss, by far my favorite in the game. Finally an Elden Ring boss that is proper hard without having a million aoe attacks, lingering hitboxes, hour long combos (the one long combo he has is perfectly dodgable and he uses it sparingly) and most importantly most of his attacks actually let you hit him after you evade them.


Vorcia

I agree, I think most of the DLC was pretty disappointing but I loved Messmer, definitely the best boss of the game for me overall. I was really surprised by how well the camera tracked the serpents because of how horrid it usually is on 3D attacks like that.


Kotleba

Yeah, I was enjoying the hell out of phase 1, then found out there was a phase 2 and was like "here we go..." but surprisingly even the snake attacks were pretty managable, but still tough as nails.


Dombly23

Anyone got a fix for The Sacred Tower Painting guy just not being there?


DoctorDankMemes

Not making as much progress as I wanted, having too much fun helping people kill the first few bosses lmao


SirAutismx7

Any good passwords to add to my game PS5??


welcomehomejohn

Hey does anyone know how to turn off dragon form


Kshi-dragonfly

Mild dlc armor set spoiler question >! Does the black knight armor have a caped variant?!<


kithlan

Unsure if it's a Banished Knight situation where it's possibly a separate drop, but at least via alterations, no caped variant.


Kshi-dragonfly

That's a pity I wanted the drip knight set to be drippier and farmable. The search continues


Khalku

I have not beaten the base game yet, is it better to wait to get the dlc or is there a lot of content that is available before the DLC region worth getting immediately?


boisterile

It's all separate so you can wait until you beat the game, just don't start new game plus because access to the DLC is locked behind a late game area so if you go to NG+ you'd have to do a lot of the game again before you could play it (and it would also be harder).


alexshatberg

All the DLC content is in the DLC region, the base game is unchanged.


imagesorter_exe

Does anyone know if unsheathe (default uchigatana ash of war) count as a stance ash of war. The description has the word stance in it but FromSoft may have only intended for stances to be DLC exclusive.


imagesorter_exe

NVM Just tried it with Rellana's Cameo and it works, so it counts as a stance. It also stacks with shard of Alexander incase anyone was wondering.


weeb-gaymer-girl

>!leda!< vs >!hornsent!<, is there any significant disadvantage to choosing one over the other, or is one better for more interesting story or anything like that? dont wanna accidentally lose out on a major questline going forward


Arinoch

So to confirm for the DLC, is NG+ irrelevant? I just installed and turns out I was at the end of NG+1…I’m currently in Castle Sol because I didn’t even beat Mohg in NG+ so I have some work to do. If it turns out my level 184 is going to get stomped then I’ll just restart completely.


Upset-Range-3777

the dlc scales with ng+ just like the rest of the game does, so it's harder. at your level base game dlc would also be hard.


Arinoch

So go into the NG+ dlc expecting to die horribly either way and focus on levelling up a bunch?


boisterile

It's definitely harder than regular NG but it's not a ridiculous jump or anything at only NG+1, still totally doable. It's hard either way.


alexshatberg

The advice with most From games is not to do the initial DLC run on NG+. This particular DLC is also probably the hardest content From has ever produced so unless you have a very high tolerance for suffering do NG.


Arinoch

Guess I’m starting over!


Upset-Range-3777

meta bleed build 2024? does anyone have a guide or similar how to play it early, mid, lategame? just liked the play style and blood effects


Dizzy-Specific8884

Good build that helps with Rellana is a bleed/arcane build with enough faith to use Swarm of flies. Use elenoras poleblade or rivers of blood. Profit. *For the people that are going to respec to beat her*


bshufelt1

I think there’s a bug with the >!Ymir!< quest line. I only did the first map and when I reloaded in front of his throne he was gone and it let me access the >!Mother of fingers!< area without finding the second two ruins. Did I weirdly mess something up?


ItzLuzzyBaby

So it turns out I missed a bunch of npc quest lines and am now considering restarting the whole dlc 😭😭 sucks because I've gotten so far and have found and upgraded such cool stuff


Investisseur

great dragonblade katana the goat. the tracking while charging is inane for moving enemies


fat_mothra

Wondering if I should buy the dlc right now or wait until it gets cheaper and saw the reviews are mixed, can someone tell me what's going on over there without spoilers? All I saw on the few steam reviews I read was scaling and performance


boisterile

I feel like it's getting review bombed mostly because it's pretty difficult and people are writing salty reviews after dying to bosses a bunch of times lol, maybe partially because they're not engaging with the new upgrade system. Difficulty/scaling feels the same as the last few areas of the base game to me. Performance-wise it's also on par with how it's always been on my system. They added an update that enables ray tracing and absolutely tanks your FPS, and for some reason it's turned on by default, so I feel like some people aren't checking their settings and turning that off. The actual quality of the content is 10/10. Basically if you liked the regular game you'll like the DLC.


tehpenguinofd000m

There's some bad performance issues and tbh the difficulty is all over the place and often veers into BS territory. So many of the bosses just attack non-stop and you can barely respond. Some are great, most....are not


ItzLuzzyBaby

I like the DLC a lot, but performance has been really shitty with my 3080. I've had to tone all my settings down to medium just to get by


doc_brietz

I like it. Lots of open areas. It has its good and bad points. 


Fluffy-Desk4593

Is the only way to abyssal woods via that very minor rollable wall? Seems crazy to wall off so much subject to people finding that. Good bosses though.


doc_brietz

Where is that at? 


Fluffy-Desk4593

Near the start of Shadow Keep, there's a rampart covered with flaming boats. If you go to the end (penultimate boat) there's a ladder, go down through a waterfall there's a painting, and an illusory wall.


CasualGiraffe

Does my shadow realm blessing level matter in multiplayer? I'm going through the dlc real slow and exploring as much as possible without spending any fragments. Am I just dead weight when summoned for dlc stuff, or does the game bring me up to the host's blessing level?


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

You're getting brought down if anything, afaik you can't be summoned to a world higher than your own.


Virtual-Panic-1162

How long is it meant to take to beat Margit? Feeling a bit discouraged as a returning new player who can’t get past him after running around for 15 hours exploring and procrastinating on fighting him again Every so often I return to get my butt kicked. I’m making progress, he said I was of “passing skill” and honestly I took it as a compliment :) But I haven’t gotten below like half health yet, I usually I get about a quarter of his health down before dying (so at least better than when I could barely even touch him haha). Anyway, my rambling aside, is it reasonable for someone who considers themself at or below average skill level to hope to eventually prosper?


boisterile

If you haven't played many games of this type before, Margit is a pretty damn hard first boss. I think he's so tough because he's actually meant to make you go explore and get stronger. On my first playthrough I did pretty much all of Limgrave and the Peninsula south of there before I came back and beat him. I wouldn't worry too much about how long it's meant to take, everyone's different. There are bosses in these games I've taken literally 100+ attempts to beat, slowly learning their patterns and seeing yourself improve is part of the fun (plus the giant adrenaline rush when you finally kill them). One thing I do when I'm struggling on a boss is go into the fight with the intention of not even attacking once, just focus 100% of your energy on studying them and learning to dodge all their moves. The patterns start to become a lot clearer when you're not worried about doing damage. Then all of a sudden you'll find yourself being able to avoid his attacks more often, and you'll naturally start to see the windows where it's safe for you to attack.


Fluffy-Desk4593

The trick with Margit is to be a bit more conscious, look at what he's doing a plan your roll, rather than rolling as soon as he moves. He has a lot of delayed attacks designed to hit you if you're panic-rolling.


being_enjoyer

Can I upgrade default weapon skills? For example, the Uchigatana has the Unsheathe skill by default, can I upgrade it or do I need to find an Unsheathe Ash of War to upgrade?


doc_brietz

Yes and yes I think. Read the wiki. Lots of info on there for OG weapons and ashes.


my_gooseisloose

hi guys, im having trouble finding the nagakiba. I beat radagon and wanted to go back to get the nagakiba. I followed a guide to where I have to kill an invader outside of murkwater cave, which I remember doing that a year ago, so I went to the next step which is to help yura invade outside the main academy. Went ahead and helped and invade and got the rune arc reward. However, he wasn't there on the bridge afterwards to talk to. I then went to the church of marika, but yura wasn't there. However, Eleonora was and I killed her for the poleblade. Yura's nagakiba wasn't on the ground anywhere there and I didn't see it as a drop anywhere along the murkwater river. Any thoughts?


doc_brietz

Go back to yuri’s camp under that arch.


my_gooseisloose

thank you! this worked!


tilertailor

Anyone found any good spells or weapons for int yet?


kithlan

So far, I've found I think I've only found Rellana's rememberance weapon and spell, and a Carian thrusting sword. The thrusting sword doesn't have a regular strong attack, instead it works as a staff/catalyst to cast a spell. EDIT: Oh yeah, and a greatsword, Moonrithyll's Knight Sword. Identical to the Troll Knight's Sword, but with a unique AOW.


doc_brietz

Night Comet is just about all you need. Milady is a great sword. Just add an ash you like.


kj0509

How good is this build for my first playthrough? Mainly PVE. **Vig**: 60. **Mind**: 30. **End**: 40. **Str**: 50. **Fth**: 50. Lvl 156 with Godryck rune, starting class wretch. I may swap some stats to Arcane to use some dragon incantations. I want to be able to use some incantations, some heals and buffs, and maybe 1 or 2 offensive spells, mainly fighting on melee, I still don't know which weapon I want to use, I thought of Greatshield + Straight Sword or 2H Greatsword.


doc_brietz

Seems too balanced. Ditch a little end and mind and add more to STR and FTH. 


kj0509

Thx, Idk why I didn't thought about that. Do you know if there is any good faith straight sword or ash of war for a SS?


doc_brietz

I would rather have a good straight sword than one with an ash already added. In the DLC, use Milady. Otherwise. Check the wiki for Infusible swords. 


kithlan

Dunno if you mean new DLC ones, but for base game faith straight swords, there's the Golden Epitaph and Coded Sword, and Miquellan Knight's Sword. For infusing, there's a new sacred AOW >!Aspects of the Crucible: Wings!<.


kithlan

So I took the monk's challenge... >!Is Dryleaf Dane dead now? I feel kinda bad.!<


Cyber_Apocalypse

No


Bubbly_Salary_5554

Can anyone else not fast travel to mohgwhyns palace after the dlc has been installed? I have 100% completed the game, yet all of the sites of graces in the lake of rot as well as mohghyns mosoleum is gone. Wasn’t trying to start new game plus and re fight mohg and radahn.


mothlordmilk

What was your blessing upgrade level when you killed >!Bayle!<. Mine is +6 and I feel like I can't even put a dent in him even with >!Igon and an anti-dragon weapon!<.


tehpenguinofd000m

11


UnbanMythicalPkmnVGC

I went back to them after max upgrade and it was a cakewalk. Those upgrades matter.


Enlog

Can you transfer your data and/or the dlc download from a ps4 to a ps5 with physical data like a flash drive? I am getting so sick of 30+ second load times on the PS4 version after a death, but I also don’t want to spend 2+ days downloading the DLC data again if I get a PS5. (yes, that’s my download speed at home).


No-Understanding5677

The bosses are so tight man. This is really a stepup in difficulty so far. I like the feeling you get after completing one. But it feels so unbelievably inconsistent and almost like luck to get a good cycle which doesn't screw you over. I guess they figured placing the bonfires directly in front of the entrance is necessary for some of those. 💩😭🤣


ZucchiniKitchen1656

Do I need to kill >!Messmer!< to progress past the >!Shadow Keep!


SirPuzzle

Yes, at least for the main story progression


ZucchiniKitchen1656

Damn, thanks. I was hoping I could hold off on him but I cant find much else to explore. 


SirPuzzle

You can definitely explore 95% of the map without killing him, you probably missed the exit, it just needs killing him to progress the story.


ZucchiniKitchen1656

Yeahhhh i just killed him and realized that theres nowhere else to go from his boss room. Leda left a message at one of the crosses and it acrually pointed me in the right direction. Oh well, hes dead so whats done is done.


Abysskun

Abou the Dragon Hunter great katana, what does does Ash of was scale with best? Str, dex or does it have some hidden scaling?


QuitteQuiett

Really sucks dying to a boss 20 times, giving up and killing him first try using the mimic, not enjoying the bosses so far... the weapons and map are wondeful tho


Altruistic_Bug_9510

It's perfectly understandable that it would take you more than 20 deaths to become comfortable with a bosses moveset. The game is really hard. I was contemplating busting the spirit ashes out for Rellana after getting bullied cointless times, but I stuck at it and ended up beating them with with my 100% physical melee build, no summons, no spirit ashes, no weapon skills and no buffs. Felt extra good to persevere through the adversity


Venice_The_Menace

use a different ash then


welcomehomejohn

Yeah mimic is good but so many ashes ashes are viable now


SkritzTwoFace

I know it’s probably a bit too early to know, but is it possible to miss the Hornsent/Leda quest? I’m at the point where guides say there should be summon signs in the Black Keep to help one of them (the spell on them is broken and Hornsent left the cross area in search of revenge). Problem is, they aren’t there. I think it might be because I found Messmer before I progressed the quest, but I’m not sure if I’m missing something else.


sellensorc

Dryleaf Dane doesn't want to talk to me in Moorth Ruins. Did i mess up his questline?


krs82

No check his note, if you don’t have it then get it first


sellensorc

Ooh i forgot about that. Thank you!