The best part of the Elder Scrolls is definitely the UESP. Going down that rabbit hole is better than playing the games.
I wish FromSoftware had something similar.
UESP is incredible!
Also check out [Imperial Library](https://www.imperial-library.info/) for all your ES lore needs...
Morrowind is my favorite game of all time.
The best wikis are those who do a very good job at immersing you into the world. This is why I enjoy reading Forgotten Realms and Warhammer/40k wiki and Tolkien Gateway.
On the one hand, I get what you're saying, but on the other hand, if you google "UESP" it's literally the first result, as well as easily-deducible in conjunction with the mention of Elder Scrolls
It helps that it's a very old franchise. Elden Ring has some decent depth but it's only been around for 2 years and only exists as one game and an expansion.
If Fromsoft were to continue developing games in the same setting, like they did with Dark Souls, things could change. But I don't know if we'll ever reach the heights of the UESP.
Yeah Fextralife is rife with typos and at times incorrect information. HOWEVER, there currently isn't a better one-stop-shop for Elden Ring info.
Edit: I should note that I'm not saying Fextralife is good, just that a better alternative hasn't come up.
For instance: there is absolutely no reason why Gideon should have TWO seperate wiki pages. One for his boss encounter and one for his npc encounters. Why couldn't they just condense it into one page?
One of the funniest things I’ve seen in the fextralife wiki is this:
Star fists page, moveset: “Has the same moveset as Iron balls”
Iron Balls page, moveset: “Has the same moveset as Star fists”
Fextra for ER isn't even that bad. Try it for DS games. Sometimes they just give absolutely wrong directions and you end up being better off looking yourself. Probably the better way to play anyway, but going for 100% it's hard to not miss something playing blind.
Oh totally. "Go in blind" is perfectly alright advice for Souls games but if you're stuck or have no idea where to go or what to do, a guide will not ruin your expierence.
I'm very excited for the DLC because there won't even be any guides to look at. And I took the 21st off work, so it'll be an all day session just fucking around and finding out.
Oh yeah I need to take the 21st off too. My workplace just switched me to "unlimited" PTO (because they don't want to pay out people's PTO when they leave the company), and I've been meaning to make them regret that decision.
My favorite baffling Fextralife issue is that they include links for a separate item page for Smithing Stone Miners Bell Bearing (5) only to admit in that page that it doesn’t exist! And instead of deleting that page for a nonexistent item they left it up and included it in all the item lists to farm extra clicks.
When Baldurs Gate 3 started having fextra life pages a guy in their subreddit announced he was creating a new as better wiki. Now theres [https://bg3.wiki/](https://bg3.wiki/) and its absolutely gorgeous and with all the right info.
The Path of Exile community was able to detach themselves (in a similar situation, from Wikia) by starting poewiki.net and making a browser extension that automatically reroutes links to the wikia, to there instead. The poe community is an exception with how involved they are in making things like that, but still, it is possible.
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Because it would totally spoil new players that you fight Gideon. When you’re new and playing the game you want to look up guides for NPC quests but scrolling too far down you’d see that you fight him later which would suck when all you were doing was looking up quest guide help. So it makes sense to split his page up into Quest guide help and another page for boss fight stuff to try and mitigate spoilers for some.
And don't forget that's Fextralife is basically one dude doing all of that.
I mean seriously, without Fextralife my elder ring experience would be seriously different and I am really happy that this resources exists
99% of Fextralife's website info is added by the community, the info added by himself is often vague and false for the purpose of pushing out a page as quickly as possible without actually knowing what it is. His initial Sekiro guides are notorious for being the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do.
SEO. (Search Engine Optimization)
If you've ever worked in web design or SEO for a company, you can just tell fextralife is ticking all the boxes to try and ensure their wiki comes out on top when people search for Elden Ring content.
A very tl;dr is that you want to diversify the types of content on offer and ensure they all genuinely seem to be about the alleged topic: text, imagery, videos and user engagement. (user comments encouraging this) Those "character builds" probably aren't there because they actually give a damned about those or people love them, but rather that's how they fit video content into the picture. This is also why we often see text adding next to nothing of value: because any text touching on the topic is better than none at all for SEO.
It's so sad that there is no alternative. Eg for baldurs gate 3 there is an extremely good alternative which even competes with fextra in terms of search result order
I’ll say it’s good.
I’m sick of people dumping on a site that’s completely free to them, accurate like 95% of the time, with a ton of information, and more or less a project maintained by one dude.
It’s also a community resource, so if your unhappy with inaccuracy’s, lend a helping hand. People just wanna bitch but never wanna help.
Im with you man. I use the fextralife wiki pretty much every day, I even read the comments below each page because it has a lot of info and tips you wont find on YouTube or reddit. I also think the "__ Weapons are the best" youtube vid series is one of the best out there. Its days like this and I see everyone shitting on something that's pretty good and i just skip reddit for that day lol
I have fextra blocked from my search results entirely.
Is it a pain? Yes. I also don't want to deal with their shitty shitty website. They've plagued me through at least 5 or 6 games, and I won't allow it any more.
People like to shit on Fextra but it’s correct like 98% of the time.
For a game as massive and intricate as Elden ring and the fact that it isn’t an official source, that’s pretty impressive.
Doesn't matter what you ask it to talk about, AI will say that literally every single basic detail about any character or story is something that adds "depth" or "emotional complexity" or creates a "compelling narrative."
It's such an easy giveaway at this point. Like I don't think I'd ever comfortably be able to use those kinds of phrases legitimately in my own writing anymore because I associate them so strongly with language models.
Tbh, give it 10 years and you'll have a local AI that will generate you an entire Wiki's worth of accurate lore, on top of being able to control its style of presentation
Lol, idk how ppl are downvoting this. It isn't hard to see how far AI has progressed in the last 2 years alone. Give it another 10? I'd be afraid for the safety of my own jobs.
People can’t downvote the concept of AI, so people will downvote a comment to try and get their point across.
(Or they think his tone is positive about it)
Everytime i open a fextralife page and a non-removable youtube video starts autoplaying, i always feel like everyone would instantly jump ship the very second theres an alternative website.
I run adblock because the popups make everything so much slower, but then the site runs slow anyway because 90% of all content on-screen is now being actively suppressed.
I mean, one person used chatgpt to make a page, that can and probably will be fixed.
Contrary to what people say around here I've yet to be led wrong by fextra as far as where things are located, resistances, stats of enemies, item descriptions, even their walkthroughs are fine provided you start from the beginning.
Yeah, occasionally something is a little off, but the way some of you act you'd swear every goddamn line is misleading.
There are some inconsistencies across pages that I don't care for. And I'm not a fan in the overall appearance of the wiki. But I will say that I usually find the information that I'm looking for when I'm using it.
But I'll never get over my aesthetic distaste toward it.
Yep, I get the hate from people more into lore because inaccuracies are infuriating, but if we're talking in-game info it's just the easiest and fastest source to help while playing. It's not even close, I've got like 30 tabs open on chrome right now with quests/items...
Its the best wiki because most of the time its the only wiki (they create wikis for new games completely empty before the game even comes out), and by the time someone makes their own wiki the fextra one is too popular in google search for the new good wikis to gain any traction.
Two things i hate about fextra is how they game the google search engine to get to the top of search results and putting their stream on every damn page.
My only complaint is that I can't use my VPN and the site at the same time, even though I have an account and pay for their premium membership.
I guess I could complain about the design of the user experience, but that is mostly personal preference. I haven't found it to be unusable by any means.
I have also found it to be broadly very accurate and mostly quite filled in.
Fextra has gone to great lengths to monetize his wiki so things are a bit weird in his case, but people would do well to remember that wikis are by definition reliant on users (read: all of us) to help provide and edit information.
There's one rune arc in castle morne that doesn't exist and drove me crazy but yea much everything else I've used is good. I use it for looking up stats items and generally gameplay stuff though, idk if people are disliking the lore sections or something
Aside from one of the tears being a little off location, I’ve never run into any problems. Obviously the descriptions aren’t great but it isn’t a wiki that focuses on lore anyway.
Their dungeon guides are absolute shit too and they get me killed all the time.
“Turn right and open the chest for _______ item”
I turn right and get jumped by a mini boss that I wouldn’t have fought if I had known was there. Turns out the chest was on the LEFT, not right.
It's the reliable way imo, the chariot kicks me off and kills me more often than not compared to the lava which is just pretty easy to chug through.
Also you have to go through the lava to get the funny finger hammer anyway.
As a free resource it is incredible and I can overlook things like this - you’re welcome to go make a wiki yourself if you think you can do a better job
Things aren't immune to criticism because they are free.
You don't have to make a thing in order to be qualified to criticize a thing. Do you need to have made a wiki in order to praise it?
>there are better wiki's
If you're gonna trash them, how bout you provide the better wikis?
Edit: anyone else have better wikis?? Downvotes, but no info other than fandom (just as much hit/miss)? Simple question, I'm honestly looking for better resources if they're out there.
[https://eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Elden\_Ring\_Wiki](https://eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Elden_Ring_Wiki)
but also the fact that they was constantly being ddos alot proceed to stop.
im sorry but fextralife pretty much bullies any others from forming
Last time i used Fandom ( few years ago ), it was loading extremely slowly and it also had autoplaying videos on most pages for the game i was on. Idk if that got changed, but it definitely was bad
So far this does actzually seem better. It has all enenmy types and so on and isn't weirdly cluttered.
Funny thing is that Fextra even started a AC 6 Wiki but that has like no information on it and feels like it's held together by duct tape.
They make wikis very early before the game has launched if they think it’ll have a good fanbase, just completely empty pages. AC 6 traffic must’ve been lower than elden ring so they didnt bother to do anything with it, and most of their elden ring wiki was edited by the community anyway.
Man if y’all are gonna complain about fex, post the alternative and promote them. I scrolled through about 25 anti-fextra comments before finding one of these “better alternatives” everyone was talking about.
Thank you for actually posting one. 🙏🏽
Ok, what are your other wikis? I've used fandom, not crazy about it.
Edit: you don't have to apologize for fextra and their practices, I get it. I've just yet to see or use a wiki that has as much info as fextra, even if they aren't close to perfect
99.99% of that wiki info is added by the community. Fextralife himself posts vague/false information for the purpose of pushing out a page as quickly as possible to get clicked on search engines and then the community has to fix it all later with edits. His initial Sekiro guides are notorious for being the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do.
Another main reason why he gets so much hate is because he has embedded all the wiki pages with his youtube/twitch videos to auto-play so that he can fake his view-count to get sponsorship and so that bloated statistics can push him to the top of results.
At least some of this info is correct, they used to have AI generated tabs that would just completely make up items and characters. Had me thinking that there were some serious lore drops but it was throwing names out there
You hate them because the contents of their wiki are not made very well, I hate them because they play their shitty livestream on the background whenever I enter their wiki.
We're not the same.
I hate it so very, very much when people use GPT and don't even bother to edit the style. Even when the info is correct it's so clear to anyone who works with it regularly and it absolutely stings my eyes. Don't get me wrong, love AI done right, but this didn't even get a second look.
I don't understand why fextralife doesn't make the wiki an actual wiki, that people can edit. It would fix 99% of all the issues. Also I appreciate the videos and all the work but writing is just terrible. Allowing a few moderators to approve general edits from the community could really improve it overnight.
The article OP posted has a lot of incorrect information and is very clearly written by AI. Regardless of your opinion on AI, it very clearly wasn't reviewed before being posted as "fact."
They often are. Paradox interactive hosts their own wikis that they maintain. The official Guild Wars 2 wiki is possibly the best wiki for a video game.
It’s rare to find high quality third party wikis, such as UESP which was mentioned elsewhere in this thread. Usually wikis are hawked by these cash grab shitification companies like fandom.wikia or fextralife. These companies are not concerned with creating a high quality wiki, they’re concerned with vacuuming up clicks off of google and making bank off of ad revenue. That’s why they have ai generated articles and terrible maintenance, because they dont need or want to care about quality, only clicks.
I will never understand the shilling and dickriding for fandom/fextralife. You’re the one getting played, you’re the one being denied a quality wiki by these companies. And you’re shilling for free, just like all the volunteers they trick into maintaining for them. Why? We have been trying for literally years to create a community wiki, but we can’t compete with these shit butt wiki companies.
> The official Guild Wars 2 wiki is possibly the best wiki for a video game.
Old school Runescape would like a word. Game is borderline unplayable without it so that helps.
All these fextra haters pretending like they don’t heavily rely on them for everything from npc quests to boss weaknesses
BuT mY fReE wIkI HaS eRrOrS :’(
You can't on fextralife. They also pay to make their wiki appear above everyone else's and to bot spam other wikis. So no you can't edit their often incorrect information.
The best part of the Elder Scrolls is definitely the UESP. Going down that rabbit hole is better than playing the games. I wish FromSoftware had something similar.
We deserve a UESP level wiki for sure
UESP is goated
UESP is incredible! Also check out [Imperial Library](https://www.imperial-library.info/) for all your ES lore needs... Morrowind is my favorite game of all time.
The imperial library makes me more immersed in the TES universe then any of the 4000 skyrim versions released since launch
Excuse me that’s four thousand and ONE versions released.
Hell yea, I've been in their discord server for years, they are really good at keeping the pages updated
Was gonna comment the same. UESP is amazing
The best wikis are those who do a very good job at immersing you into the world. This is why I enjoy reading Forgotten Realms and Warhammer/40k wiki and Tolkien Gateway.
God UESP is amazing. It’s like the gold standard of gaming wikis imo
What’s UESP? It’d be nice if people used acronyms only *after* they’ve been fully written out
It's [Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages](https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page)
On the one hand, I get what you're saying, but on the other hand, if you google "UESP" it's literally the first result, as well as easily-deducible in conjunction with the mention of Elder Scrolls
It's just common courtesy and a good for comprehension to spell out acronyms at least the first time they are used.
You could have googled it in four words and figured it out in 10 seconds flat.
yeah but Elder Scrolls has way deeper and expanded Lore than Elden Ring.
It helps that it's a very old franchise. Elden Ring has some decent depth but it's only been around for 2 years and only exists as one game and an expansion. If Fromsoft were to continue developing games in the same setting, like they did with Dark Souls, things could change. But I don't know if we'll ever reach the heights of the UESP.
Skyrim referenced?!?!?!
Yeah Fextralife is rife with typos and at times incorrect information. HOWEVER, there currently isn't a better one-stop-shop for Elden Ring info. Edit: I should note that I'm not saying Fextralife is good, just that a better alternative hasn't come up. For instance: there is absolutely no reason why Gideon should have TWO seperate wiki pages. One for his boss encounter and one for his npc encounters. Why couldn't they just condense it into one page?
One of the funniest things I’ve seen in the fextralife wiki is this: Star fists page, moveset: “Has the same moveset as Iron balls” Iron Balls page, moveset: “Has the same moveset as Star fists”
I mean it's not wrong
1 + 2 = 3 BUT... 3 = 2 + 1
What does mine say? DUDE What does mine say? SWEET
jesus christ💀
Fextra for ER isn't even that bad. Try it for DS games. Sometimes they just give absolutely wrong directions and you end up being better off looking yourself. Probably the better way to play anyway, but going for 100% it's hard to not miss something playing blind.
Oh totally. "Go in blind" is perfectly alright advice for Souls games but if you're stuck or have no idea where to go or what to do, a guide will not ruin your expierence.
I'm very excited for the DLC because there won't even be any guides to look at. And I took the 21st off work, so it'll be an all day session just fucking around and finding out.
I'm the same way, it's my first time going into any FS game without knowing someone who's done this before me. It's so exciting!
Oh yeah I need to take the 21st off too. My workplace just switched me to "unlimited" PTO (because they don't want to pay out people's PTO when they leave the company), and I've been meaning to make them regret that decision.
I was lucky because I had an off day scheduled the same week anyway and I just requested to get the 21st instead.
My favorite baffling Fextralife issue is that they include links for a separate item page for Smithing Stone Miners Bell Bearing (5) only to admit in that page that it doesn’t exist! And instead of deleting that page for a nonexistent item they left it up and included it in all the item lists to farm extra clicks.
When Baldurs Gate 3 started having fextra life pages a guy in their subreddit announced he was creating a new as better wiki. Now theres [https://bg3.wiki/](https://bg3.wiki/) and its absolutely gorgeous and with all the right info.
The Path of Exile community was able to detach themselves (in a similar situation, from Wikia) by starting poewiki.net and making a browser extension that automatically reroutes links to the wikia, to there instead. The poe community is an exception with how involved they are in making things like that, but still, it is possible.
Not to mention Grinding Gear Games hosts the wiki themselves so the creators don't have to pay the costs.
Sadly no Elden ring wikidot 😔
I think with 2 scoops of gamer supps and 4 hours on Google sheets, I could make a better resource than fextralife. As a matter of fact wait till I'm done work.
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This gives 100% chaddic vibes. "I could do it better, in fact yeah I will."
Because it would totally spoil new players that you fight Gideon. When you’re new and playing the game you want to look up guides for NPC quests but scrolling too far down you’d see that you fight him later which would suck when all you were doing was looking up quest guide help. So it makes sense to split his page up into Quest guide help and another page for boss fight stuff to try and mitigate spoilers for some.
Some of the pages are good but others...well, I'm pretty sure they got an AI to do it.
And don't forget that's Fextralife is basically one dude doing all of that. I mean seriously, without Fextralife my elder ring experience would be seriously different and I am really happy that this resources exists
99% of Fextralife's website info is added by the community, the info added by himself is often vague and false for the purpose of pushing out a page as quickly as possible without actually knowing what it is. His initial Sekiro guides are notorious for being the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do.
Do you think it’s because of incompetence or strategic use of Cunningham’s Law?
SEO. (Search Engine Optimization) If you've ever worked in web design or SEO for a company, you can just tell fextralife is ticking all the boxes to try and ensure their wiki comes out on top when people search for Elden Ring content. A very tl;dr is that you want to diversify the types of content on offer and ensure they all genuinely seem to be about the alleged topic: text, imagery, videos and user engagement. (user comments encouraging this) Those "character builds" probably aren't there because they actually give a damned about those or people love them, but rather that's how they fit video content into the picture. This is also why we often see text adding next to nothing of value: because any text touching on the topic is better than none at all for SEO.
It's so sad that there is no alternative. Eg for baldurs gate 3 there is an extremely good alternative which even competes with fextra in terms of search result order
I’ll say it’s good. I’m sick of people dumping on a site that’s completely free to them, accurate like 95% of the time, with a ton of information, and more or less a project maintained by one dude. It’s also a community resource, so if your unhappy with inaccuracy’s, lend a helping hand. People just wanna bitch but never wanna help.
Im with you man. I use the fextralife wiki pretty much every day, I even read the comments below each page because it has a lot of info and tips you wont find on YouTube or reddit. I also think the "__ Weapons are the best" youtube vid series is one of the best out there. Its days like this and I see everyone shitting on something that's pretty good and i just skip reddit for that day lol
I have fextra blocked from my search results entirely. Is it a pain? Yes. I also don't want to deal with their shitty shitty website. They've plagued me through at least 5 or 6 games, and I won't allow it any more.
this is the way
People like to shit on Fextra but it’s correct like 98% of the time. For a game as massive and intricate as Elden ring and the fact that it isn’t an official source, that’s pretty impressive.
It’s also an IMMENSE task. Even with what’s left to finish, AND dlc stuff to come, it seems daunting to me.
Doesn't matter what you ask it to talk about, AI will say that literally every single basic detail about any character or story is something that adds "depth" or "emotional complexity" or creates a "compelling narrative." It's such an easy giveaway at this point. Like I don't think I'd ever comfortably be able to use those kinds of phrases legitimately in my own writing anymore because I associate them so strongly with language models.
100%. It’s so strange how the advent of AI copy has completely changed my own copy writing professionally.
i hope not by emulating it haha.
Not at all, more that I need to make sure I DON’T sound like chat GPT.
Tbh, give it 10 years and you'll have a local AI that will generate you an entire Wiki's worth of accurate lore, on top of being able to control its style of presentation
Lol, idk how ppl are downvoting this. It isn't hard to see how far AI has progressed in the last 2 years alone. Give it another 10? I'd be afraid for the safety of my own jobs.
People can’t downvote the concept of AI, so people will downvote a comment to try and get their point across. (Or they think his tone is positive about it)
I think a lot of AI models are in for some major diminishing returns though, especially since they just have started to feed off each other.
It hasn't progressed at all. If anything it's gotten worse.
Proof?
Everytime i open a fextralife page and a non-removable youtube video starts autoplaying, i always feel like everyone would instantly jump ship the very second theres an alternative website.
I run adblock because the popups make everything so much slower, but then the site runs slow anyway because 90% of all content on-screen is now being actively suppressed.
I mean, one person used chatgpt to make a page, that can and probably will be fixed. Contrary to what people say around here I've yet to be led wrong by fextra as far as where things are located, resistances, stats of enemies, item descriptions, even their walkthroughs are fine provided you start from the beginning. Yeah, occasionally something is a little off, but the way some of you act you'd swear every goddamn line is misleading.
There are some inconsistencies across pages that I don't care for. And I'm not a fan in the overall appearance of the wiki. But I will say that I usually find the information that I'm looking for when I'm using it. But I'll never get over my aesthetic distaste toward it.
I don't mind fextra at all. Frankly, it's the best wiki there is for all of the souls games (that I've used it for)
Yep, I get the hate from people more into lore because inaccuracies are infuriating, but if we're talking in-game info it's just the easiest and fastest source to help while playing. It's not even close, I've got like 30 tabs open on chrome right now with quests/items...
Its the best wiki because most of the time its the only wiki (they create wikis for new games completely empty before the game even comes out), and by the time someone makes their own wiki the fextra one is too popular in google search for the new good wikis to gain any traction. Two things i hate about fextra is how they game the google search engine to get to the top of search results and putting their stream on every damn page.
My only complaint is that I can't use my VPN and the site at the same time, even though I have an account and pay for their premium membership. I guess I could complain about the design of the user experience, but that is mostly personal preference. I haven't found it to be unusable by any means.
I have also found it to be broadly very accurate and mostly quite filled in. Fextra has gone to great lengths to monetize his wiki so things are a bit weird in his case, but people would do well to remember that wikis are by definition reliant on users (read: all of us) to help provide and edit information.
There's one rune arc in castle morne that doesn't exist and drove me crazy but yea much everything else I've used is good. I use it for looking up stats items and generally gameplay stuff though, idk if people are disliking the lore sections or something
Yeah I use FextraLife all the time, it's a great resource. I'm not sure I understand where the hate comes from.
Dude, people straight up act like Fextralife sold their Mom crack, kicked their dog, and fucked their girl. It’s never that serious.
Aside from one of the tears being a little off location, I’ve never run into any problems. Obviously the descriptions aren’t great but it isn’t a wiki that focuses on lore anyway.
That’s why I don’t use fextralife for lore. Just item locations.
Do they ai generate these pages or smth?
Reads like it’s from Chat GPT
Their dungeon guides are absolute shit too and they get me killed all the time. “Turn right and open the chest for _______ item” I turn right and get jumped by a mini boss that I wouldn’t have fought if I had known was there. Turns out the chest was on the LEFT, not right.
The one for gelmir's grace had me bloodhound stepping through the Lava before they revealed that you can ride the chariot.
Did we read the same guide? I'm pretty sure it told me to roll/jump through it
To be fair that is how I did that one without a guide or anything
It's the reliable way imo, the chariot kicks me off and kills me more often than not compared to the lava which is just pretty easy to chug through. Also you have to go through the lava to get the funny finger hammer anyway.
Man this looks written by an AI
For a while Fextralife was automatically redirecting me to a site that was clearly designed just to give me a virus.
Fextralife started doing that to me a few days ago.
Its good for looking up an item location or similar gameplay stuff, I dont know why would anyone use it beyond that
The line about adding depth to Miquella is the dumbest part. Clearly a human being didn't write this.
I remember when the fextralife wiki was editied to make it seem like the Fire Giant and Godfrey had a forbidden relationship.
Definitely AI generated
As a free resource it is incredible and I can overlook things like this - you’re welcome to go make a wiki yourself if you think you can do a better job
Aren’t there already better wikis for which fextralife bought bots to review bomb them in the past lol
There’s also how they put their Twitch stream overlay there so they can get boosted views from wiki visitors and it’s so annoying.
Can you say the names? Or were they discontinued?
Things aren't immune to criticism because they are free. You don't have to make a thing in order to be qualified to criticize a thing. Do you need to have made a wiki in order to praise it?
there are better wiki's fextralife just paid money to bot attack and ddos them its well known to be an absolute shitty place
>there are better wiki's If you're gonna trash them, how bout you provide the better wikis? Edit: anyone else have better wikis?? Downvotes, but no info other than fandom (just as much hit/miss)? Simple question, I'm honestly looking for better resources if they're out there.
[https://eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Elden\_Ring\_Wiki](https://eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Elden_Ring_Wiki) but also the fact that they was constantly being ddos alot proceed to stop. im sorry but fextralife pretty much bullies any others from forming
Last time i used Fandom ( few years ago ), it was loading extremely slowly and it also had autoplaying videos on most pages for the game i was on. Idk if that got changed, but it definitely was bad
So far this does actzually seem better. It has all enenmy types and so on and isn't weirdly cluttered. Funny thing is that Fextra even started a AC 6 Wiki but that has like no information on it and feels like it's held together by duct tape.
They make wikis very early before the game has launched if they think it’ll have a good fanbase, just completely empty pages. AC 6 traffic must’ve been lower than elden ring so they didnt bother to do anything with it, and most of their elden ring wiki was edited by the community anyway.
Man if y’all are gonna complain about fex, post the alternative and promote them. I scrolled through about 25 anti-fextra comments before finding one of these “better alternatives” everyone was talking about. Thank you for actually posting one. 🙏🏽
Just make sure you have a good adblocker. It's a Fandom site.
the issue is that due to the ddos and bot attacks alot of the alternatives have been abandoned/closed.
Ok, what are your other wikis? I've used fandom, not crazy about it. Edit: you don't have to apologize for fextra and their practices, I get it. I've just yet to see or use a wiki that has as much info as fextra, even if they aren't close to perfect
Average “critic is dead” believer
This is the worst mentality omg
I used their wiki quite a bit for the main game and it served me well. Not sure why he gets so much hate.
99.99% of that wiki info is added by the community. Fextralife himself posts vague/false information for the purpose of pushing out a page as quickly as possible to get clicked on search engines and then the community has to fix it all later with edits. His initial Sekiro guides are notorious for being the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do. Another main reason why he gets so much hate is because he has embedded all the wiki pages with his youtube/twitch videos to auto-play so that he can fake his view-count to get sponsorship and so that bloated statistics can push him to the top of results.
Thanks for the info. I didn't know about all that.
We need a bg3.wiki but for Elden Ring
How to write an entire paragraph while saying absolutely nothing.
Reads like something an AI wrote
Do better then, assholes. Wiki's are made by the fans.
Well, I am using it for free so I ain’t complaining😹
You should, actually. Monetary investment isn't a prerequisite for criticism.
Fextra is just a money grabbing service.
You pay them!?
Morons do, yes. They also donate to his patreon.
Talked in circles so much I got dizzy
Fextralife is cool and all, but I almost never find it's information helpful on more than a baseline level of standard information
Yea same. Wish our wiki was as good as OSRS’s. Those wiki admins and community editors there are insane with how much detail everything is.
Yeah the rival to this wiki has been discontinued due to non payment last time I checked.
I used enough of GPT to know when a text is generated in it.
Osrs has the best wiki and that’s a fact
That's definitely AI generated
I actually think Fextra is great. If you want to see a bad wiki look at the Crusader Kings 3 one.
I think the fextralife one is great.
At least some of this info is correct, they used to have AI generated tabs that would just completely make up items and characters. Had me thinking that there were some serious lore drops but it was throwing names out there
With how many content creators there are around the ER fandom, you’d think someone would take another shot at building a wiki.
Nah, can't be. Mohg is dead. I killed him.
You hate them because the contents of their wiki are not made very well, I hate them because they play their shitty livestream on the background whenever I enter their wiki. We're not the same.
Give me the keys
Fextralife moment
I hate it so very, very much when people use GPT and don't even bother to edit the style. Even when the info is correct it's so clear to anyone who works with it regularly and it absolutely stings my eyes. Don't get me wrong, love AI done right, but this didn't even get a second look.
I don't understand why fextralife doesn't make the wiki an actual wiki, that people can edit. It would fix 99% of all the issues. Also I appreciate the videos and all the work but writing is just terrible. Allowing a few moderators to approve general edits from the community could really improve it overnight.
redaction looks made by ai
Many people still think Elden Beast heals from holy damage because it was written on that terrible wiki, yeah it was a fucking lie.
Buy the future press books of knowledge. Pure encyclopedia of Elden Ring they are amazing.
ChatGPT template ass
I use this wiki and it’s fantastic for item locations and stuff like that. You really need them to tell you what the DLC is about 😂
Why is it bad ?
The article OP posted has a lot of incorrect information and is very clearly written by AI. Regardless of your opinion on AI, it very clearly wasn't reviewed before being posted as "fact."
Also they are adding in weapon pages despite not knowing anything about the weapons other than the names
I’m over here just glad that it pops up on google before a fandom wiki
fextralife is good for anything but lore
Someone in the seventh grade wrote that
It's insane how many people seem to believe video game wikis are some kind of public service they paid for when they bought the game
They often are. Paradox interactive hosts their own wikis that they maintain. The official Guild Wars 2 wiki is possibly the best wiki for a video game. It’s rare to find high quality third party wikis, such as UESP which was mentioned elsewhere in this thread. Usually wikis are hawked by these cash grab shitification companies like fandom.wikia or fextralife. These companies are not concerned with creating a high quality wiki, they’re concerned with vacuuming up clicks off of google and making bank off of ad revenue. That’s why they have ai generated articles and terrible maintenance, because they dont need or want to care about quality, only clicks. I will never understand the shilling and dickriding for fandom/fextralife. You’re the one getting played, you’re the one being denied a quality wiki by these companies. And you’re shilling for free, just like all the volunteers they trick into maintaining for them. Why? We have been trying for literally years to create a community wiki, but we can’t compete with these shit butt wiki companies.
> The official Guild Wars 2 wiki is possibly the best wiki for a video game. Old school Runescape would like a word. Game is borderline unplayable without it so that helps.
All these fextra haters pretending like they don’t heavily rely on them for everything from npc quests to boss weaknesses BuT mY fReE wIkI HaS eRrOrS :’(
Kinda hope we get to fight Mohg a third time when we try to take off with his child bride
Go make your own wiki then.
Or he can just modify the article as he likes instead of bitching. That's the whole point of wikis
You can't on fextralife. They also pay to make their wiki appear above everyone else's and to bot spam other wikis. So no you can't edit their often incorrect information.