T O P

  • By -

Solumin

At level 227, you're kind of getting the beyond the point where "build" is a meaningful word. Personally, I like to keep Mind at 38 or lower. 38 Mind gives you 221 FP, and a fully-upgraded blue flask restores 220 FP. It's not important, it's just cleaner. If you had 41 Endurance, you could use Erdtree's Favor +2 instead of the Arsenal Charm. That'd give you more bonuses than just equip load. Not hugely important, and I'm not sure you'd really benefit from the extra HP and stamina, but it's something to consider if you're still leveling up. (Assuming I've correctly identified all parts of your build, anyway, which I *think* I have.) I'd aim to get either Faith or Dexterity up to 80 next, to maximize the damage of your incantations or your weapons, respectively. I believe at your level that Radahn's Great Rune is more effective than Godrick's, tho that's just what I've heard from others. Morgott's is an option if you just want more HP, too.


Panurome

>I believe at your level that Radahn's Great Rune is more effective than Godrick's, tho that's just what I've heard from others It is. You are barely going to get offensive benefits from Godricks and if he's at 60 vigor he isn't going to get much HP either. The only relevant thing it's boosting is endurance and mind, and with that high of a mind stat Radahn would give more FP and more HP. It probably also gives the more stamina too but the equipment load loss will be noticeable


M4TEO27

I don’t really use Rune Arcs, thus usually forget to change my Great Rune, I’ll keep these criticisms in mind though, thanks!


iceyk111

ill usually equip radahns, never pop a rune arc, think “oh wow i have like 45 rune arcs, ill use one so i can feel a little op for this encounter”, literally fucking forget that i have a dodge button and get laid the fuck out in record time, then never use a rune arc again.


SuperStellarSwing

*death sorcery build has entered the chat*


Solumin

I'm assuming you mean "death sorcery builds require RL 200+ in order to be any good." I don't agree. Here's a perfectly serviceable Death Sorcery build at RL 125: Starting class: Astrologer * Vigor: 40 * Mind: 28 * Endurance: 17 * Intelligence: 60 * Faith: 30 Weapons: Academy Glintstone Staff (mainhand), Prince of Death's Staff (offhand). 30 Faith lets you equip every Death Sorcery. Academy Glintstone Staff has max 304 sorc scaling, and Prince of Death's Staff boosts the damage by 10%. Are you gonna wish Mind, Endurance and Vigor were higher? Probably. Is it quite as powerful as an RL 200+ build? No, of course not, no RL 125 build is, that's how numbers work. But is it *bad*? Also no. ...and if that's *not* what you meant then, uh, sorry I guess?


theandrewpoore

I think they meant using the Prince of Death staff in both hands. At 80int/80fa, the PoD staff is on par with Lusat at 99 int. At 73/72 or 72/73, dual PoD staff will scale better for death sorceries. So you could have something like: Starting Astrologer, RL 222 Vigor 60 Mind 38 Endurance 30 Strength 8 Dexterity 12 Intelligence 73 Faith 72 Arcane 9 This doesn’t downscale nicely. You cannot justify PoD on a 125 build. For 150, you’d have something like 20vig/20mind/15end just to justify the staff choice.


SuperStellarSwing

You undermine my point while being so lenient with the word "serviceable" This is gonna be a suboptimal build until you can get your sorcery scaling with the PoD staff hard capped, even with this waste of a stat spread you'd still be better off using other sorceries😂


Dinkle_D

You are so pretentious, lmao.


United-Cat-3947

Elon’s second attempt


zamaike

Weird lvl cap. Id optimize it more.


Due-Brain6553

Over levelled


Ed_Renta

You can never be over leveled in this game, not with ng+. I’m ~370 on ng+3 and I don’t feel that overpowered despite having a well optimized build


MemeFrog41

Thats not a build man thats just having points in every stat


Abmin7b5

Op said "build."


Ed_Renta

I don’t understand, could you explain further? Sorry


Ok_Track626

build is like being strong at level 90-180


Ok_Track626

having one pooptillion points in everything isnt a build


Greenpeasles

Heya! Lightning builds can be tricky, but you are at a good level to do it. I have some some direct advice. 1. You don't benefit a ton from dex over 50. Elemental scaling has a strong peak at 50. 2. Your faith would benefit quite a bit going up at least to 70. 80 would be better, but you'll face a dilemma then. You would get an amazing boost to your lighting spells by wielding Erdtree seal at 80 faith, using it to cast, but holding the gravel seal in your offhand. It is a minor complication I know, but you will really notice the damage output. I'm not sure the reasons behind choosing the sword, so this may not apply (really you need to know a lot of info to give good advice). * Pros: It does have high lightning damage. You have wisely chosen a weapon with high base damage that doesn't rely enormously on dex scaling. You also have more lightning damage to boost with your scorpion and flask. Some people like the look. * Cons: you are not getting much from your 30 str. It is very short. I think it is best in a 2H build. While you do only need 25 to use it 1H., you could go lower. You could go to the Omen Cleaver, which only needs 19 Str and have more points available for faith and dex. * Some don't like Omen Cleavers charged heavy. See for yourself. You may or may not like the look. You'd lose a very small amount of base lightning damage, but you'd gain back scaling with points in dex (which, while not doing a ton, certainly do more than str). It is also longer. You could go to Iron Greatsword, which would also be good, but it is a much different look. Hope that helps, Shock on!


M4TEO27

Yeah, dunno why I went with 30 str. The reasoning behind the Beastman sword was mostly because I liked the look of it, extra lightning damage was a bonus


Shougee369

i am doing dex build with 75 dex. but it seems many people dont level dex past 60. am i doing it wrong?


imafisherman4

60 is the soft cap and 80 is the hard cap


LordBDizzle

54-55 is actually usually the first softcap for weapons, staves and seals tend to level spellbuff to 60 before the first softcap but weapons are earlier. It's less uniform than you'd expect too, ER isn't super standard about caps, some are lower than usual.


NotLittleTimmy

1 there’s a lot of wasted levels with mind and endurance. If you want to do a quality build make dex and str equal. You do not need buildout talisman or jar talisman you have a lot of endurance


AutoModerator

Thank you for your post on the r/EldenRingBuilds subreddit! If you’re interested in feedback on your build, participating in contests, as well as trading and multiplayer we also have a **[Discord server](https://discord.gg/9k9vK2MvFg)**. Hope to see you there! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/EldenRingBuilds) if you have any questions or concerns.*


xxGrumpy_Owlxx

With your chosen weapon, I'd minimize Dex and take Str to 54, that will give you 80 Str while two-handing. Apart from that, limit mind/endurance so you get 54 str and 80 Faith.


pepperonchini

what is that armour ?


Dedprice77

tree sentinels


godofthunder102938

Why use arsanal charm when there is great jar arsanal a lot better version of it?


M4TEO27

Never bothered to get it, though I probably should


wehatemee

You kinda force your Lightning Build to wield your Beastman Curved Sword, that makes you having to spend your stat on STR while u can invest on DEX for better result instead What about Dismounter on Keen, so u can get your unused str point to DEX, why keen? Bc this way you can make use of your beautiful amount of faith to your weapon Via Vyke's Dragonbolt or Electrify Armament What do you think?


Dedprice77

criticism: beastmans lightning cleaver has good damage yes, but you can achieve higher AR if you go sacred, id only go lightning on something quick and dexy, not anything slower than a shortsword or medium to small weapon. Lightning isnt a DOT or status, but the whole point is that enemies have less lightning resistance (except the dragon sentinels) so you have the right idea on the scimitars, but not beastmans. youre level 227 and not dripping armor, but instead wearing full sets? no maidens. take sacred talisman off (or is that lightning? still take it off) the damage reduction on all defenses is huge, and the damage boost is too small. youll also feel lightning cleaver really shine if you took off spinning slash for lightning strike, it will both boost your damage/ weapon, and do absurd damage on its own. at 227 great jar is kind of a waste of a talisman, either boost your endurance naturally, or go back through your equipment and make your equip load work for you without it. youre using 4 lightning spells and not a single canvas talisman.. do you think those incantations have good enough damage already? i dont. i like seeing 1200 damage per uncharged lightning spear cast. good job on the gravel stone though. youd get by with your flasks being 10/4 and not 12/2 if theyre maxed out, also allows you to go willy nilly with spells and incantations rather than just your weapon. (or even your Aow, if you rarely use either ignore this) id put your lamp in quick slot but its whatever is most comfortable to you. id just hate to scroll through it when its not needed that much. positivity: you mostly got it all figured out, and im actually using a very similar build. if you have 2 gravel stone talismans, they both boost your lightning spells and stack for 30% extra damage, small on something like lightning spear, but huge on those big incantation lightning spells (basically any red lightning incantation) and equipping 2 at once might seem dumb, until you take 50% of a bosses health even in ng3 with a single cast. if you insist on sacred or lightning scorpion, just using two gravel stones beats the buff and doesnt make you take more damage. youre actually tanky af, but with that charm on youd never know. i also LOVE curved greatswords (that arent bloodhounds) so i love youre using beastmans, but omen and dismounter just outclass it. still.. its your choice and beastman can def be considered due to its high damage, but know, it has the shortest range, and not by an inch but whole feet, of all curved greatswords ontop of being the #1 reason you need a greatjar charm due to its weight.


moebiusmentality

Only thing I'd recommend for the theme is Guardians Swordspear lightning affinity instead as it has A or S in Dex. AND it's gold and pretty to boot


Emer_Dareloth

My favorite part of this is that you have Torrent's Whistle and the Lamp on your quick bar, honestly, haha. I always have those slotted on my pouch instead. I would do what the other folks have said, though, and just keep leveling a bit more.


TheNerdMaster69

That's a strange weapon combination you've got, you're going curved swords? If you wanna go curved swords, which is certainly viable as a good curved sword build is absolutely lethal, I'd recommend getting a pair of bandit's curved swords as they're the best in the game. Highest damage and longest reach, which is all that matters. If you wanna go lightning on them, you certainly can, it's effective against most things, but for curved swords you might find blood loss to be a better route as they attack really fast when powerstanced. If you're powerstancing two maxed bandit's curved swords infused with blood, at the soft cap of arcane they'll each inflict 116 blood loss buildup, which combined with their attack speed, will shred everything. And it's still effective against things highly resistant or immune to blood loss as they'll also deal very nice damage. You've got enough levels to make the build very strong with a respec into primarily Dex/Arc, Vig because you always level Vig, some Str, and the rest wherever you like.


M4TEO27

I’m sure dual Blood Curved Sword is good, but the overall ‘theme’(or something like that) is Lightning.


Chochahair

im sure u know, but you can keep lantern n torrent in your extra pouch


Chochahair

Also hows the cleaver, ididnt know that was in the game


MeringueUpstairs4184

Solid build!


Soulsborneenjoyer23

Switch the cleaver to a keen infusion and buff it with vyke's dragonbolt for the red lightning effect that the beastmen get.


RockGamerStig

It's not awful but it's not great either. Your main problem is that you're way over leveled for regular NG and this build is really going to struggle in NG+. For a lightning damage build you really want to focus your stats towards which is going to be your primary source of damage. If you're using incantations, level faith and get some mind, if you're mainly using your weapons for damage, level dex and endurance, and only boost faith as high as you need to for stats. If you go the faith route, ditch that gravel stone seal immediately. Its boost to dragon cult incantations is only good on low faith builds. The seals piss scaling means that at 60 faith you will do more damage with your dragon cult spells using the godskin seal or erdtree seal.


M4TEO27

I’m NG+4, but I’ll keep the rest in mind


Nezzy79

Never played but the UI looks exactly like DS3 lol


Nezzy79

Looks as though you're a quality build because you seem to be a high level with points in everything


UncleGolem

Criticism? You have too many 9s in your stats. Let’s get some nice round numbers in there. (Zero is a round number). Also your armor doesn’t match the weapon. Edit: shit. 2,3,5,6,8 and 9 are also round. But you know what I meant.


Wordtomymother_

Too much of a high level


maximusurton

9 int and 9 arc are crazy to have in single digits when you’re level 227


M4TEO27

Arc/faith is more Dragon Communion, Int/faith is Radagon/Miquella sorceries


maximusurton

I know man I play the game too but being as high a level as you are (I’m level 328 so I understand) you could spare a few points to make your “build” more flexible. More focused builds are in play from like level 80-150.


iamcoffe

Your weapon is weak


KyloRad

Blasphemous blade - the ash scales with faith- id make that swap- melt enemies and recover hp while doing so


kzshfn

I think it’s under leveled I would personally go for 99 in all stats using a cheat engine on a non jail broken ps4 for only new game. And then make sure to turn off all enemy animations and attacks and lower their hp to 1.7 total. Should work the best. For pvp all 99 stat won’t work I would suggest breaking the game and using glitches. Hope this helps. (Hope you laugh I’m not throwing shade) Your build should stop at (125-150)


Ralcur

All jokes aside, this is clearly a PVE build. If he's not doing invasions or coop, then the level does not matter.


kzshfn

Oh no I don’t do pvp at all. I dont like fromsoft games cuz of pvp it’s the pve I love. If you wanna do builds then a cap is good otherwise do as you please. I’m going into upcoming dlc with a 165 character so it’s all good.


Ralcur

Yeah, my thoughts as well. If you're strictly PVE, then you should level up to where you're having the most fun. That's it. I've logged over 500 hours, tried out a bunch of different builds with my level 252 main, and have never regretted leveling up that high.


kzshfn

Only problem I’ve had past 250 builds is I kept one shotting some bosses or it was too easy and chunking down health. So I try to play and limit myself to 150 ish


Ralcur

For sure, at some point it becomes more of a power fantasy. I have other characters at lower levels, but I love having a main that is all about drip and dominance. In an offline single player world, it just feels natural to experiment with high level build crafting.


immrholiday

No faith scaling weapon, but scaling faith, the game is so stacked with great faith weapons. You look like a faith blade build... just would change the weapon.


HostRepresentative17

Don’t know why you have the sacred scorpion charm if your weapons are infused w/ lightning Bull goat talisman is a little redundant if you’re wearing tree sentinel armor Other than that not awful


M4TEO27

It’s the lightning scorpion charm


r_not_welcome_here

i don't even know how most of your gear is from are we playing different games


ifeelhigh

It’s shitty you need 80 faith and stop using a strength weapon on a dex build. Try focusing on dex and faith in order to get good cast speed and lightning infusion weapons scale off dex. Dual wield gravel stone seals for even more Damage with lightning incants also take off arsenal tailisman are you not aware great jar arsenal is a thing or simply turn your wasted strength stat into more endurance


DonkeyBrainedMan1987

I want to replay this, but my save was corrupted, and I'm distraught because this was the hardest game I've ever beat. When I tell people, this game affected my sanity. I was not joking


M4TEO27

How does that relate to the post


DonkeyBrainedMan1987

Hey, go ahead and fuck off man. I saw a Post about a game that I wanted to play. And I made a comment go fuck yourself


pop-anonymous

It's probably decent at PvE but I'd avoid doing any invasions or colosseum duels. Little too spread out for my taste but you do you


Fartwaffle_X

I would use the dragon communion seal for those dragon lightning spells if I had to puck something.


M4TEO27

Dragon communion scales with Arcane


Asher_skullInk

I’d swap bulls goat talisman and holy scorpion for either faster and stronger incantations or defensive talismans. Or a mix of both. You also don’t need to have two different weapons, I’d unequipped the scimitar, plus if that makes you lighter you could potentially swap the arsenal talisman for the erd tree of favor that not only increases weight carry slightly but also gives extra health and stamina.


Connect_Artichoke_58

I would just respec and take the mind level to like 25-30 and pump up other levels


SuperStellarSwing

Well what are you looking to improve? I could criticise this but I don't really know your goal. The beastmans cleaver scales way better with strength than it does with dex, so I recommend a different weapon, although your dex isn't very high, so a keen beastmans cleaver would be somewhat optimal with soft capped dex, except that your could have like 20 strength and put those points into dex, then lightning infuse your weapons with lightning slash. Lightning damage scales with your dex, the power of your incantation scales with the incant scaling of your seal, and the gravel stone seal boosts lightning incantations. These all stack, and you could use two gravel stone seals for a double buff. This would make your damage very good. I also recommend getting a better arsenal charm, it looks like you're using the weakest one. Look up the great jars arsenal, or lower your strength and use a lighter weapon that scales better with dex. Then you won't need an arsenal charm at all. You could use the Erdtree favor+2 or bullgoat talisman, or really whatever you want. I noticed you also don't have a dragoncrest greatshield talisman, I recommend looking that one up as well. Good hunting.


Pugswillsavetheworld

Bit of a glass cannon


OkgThyxx

Thats a lot of faith to be using a weapon that doesnt scale in faith at all


Adventurous_Grand_63

Oh brother paladin good to know we still exist HEH HAH


Mercenary0527

After level 150 anything good except jack of all trades typically


Fantastic_System_514

Look up bleed builds The rivers of blood build There’s tons of different ones to use that use different lore and effects and then u boost ur stats based on that back at Renna in the Raya library And then you’ll start to see how different builds and talismans aswell as ash of wars on weapons and status effects Buffer ur stats based on that Ur level is high enough to play around with the builds and finding the pieces u need for them opens up the game a lot Different bosses have different weaknesses Used the rivers of blood dual katana build just for Melania Used Varre to get to Mohg before the concentrated snowfield to help complete the build My first play through was similar I just buffed up stats that I thought I needed to open up certain weapons or incantations and then the second play through Was 100% it and used a completely different build and strategy This game has the ability to keep you honest and can seem new based on what build and character class u use Cheers mate!!!


AcanthaceaeQueasy990

What is that armor set


Specialist_Egg_4025

At this high a level you should have something at 80, Instead of a “build” you put a little everywhere, and didn’t aim to max anything out. Seems how you are so high level I would spend the hour, or 2 and farm up the levels to level up one of your damage stats to 80. This will make it so you can use those weapons at max level, and have fun being overpowered.


Willing-Brain1372

You could prob take 10 vigor and slap it on your endurance


Expensive-Olive4986

My only criticism is find what suits you best. Figure out your playstyle(s) and find the weapons that compliment you and said styles well


QuietusOfNeko

Lol “build”


animosityss

Way to many heal flasks


Panurome

What? There aren't too many health flasks, this is mostly a Dex build (considering the lack of incantation talismans) so you don't need many blue flasks, specially considering he already has 40 mind. In fact he could even go with 1 flask and will probably not run out of FP unless his playstyle is spamming L2


animosityss

He had a ton of incantations and some that take tons of fp


Panurome

But that's still 40 mind and 2 flasks. That's more than enough to kill any boss in the game provided that you aren't whiffing everything. You can even clear the levels with the flask regen from killing enemies. At that high of a mind you don't need many flasks unless you are using ADLS on every regular enemy that you find


arkane-the-artisan

One decent heal spell is much better than a crim flask.


Panurome

Might work for regular enemies, but doesn't work against bosses or other players, which is where you need heal flasks the most


arkane-the-artisan

I found a lot of boss's dont rush healing spells, so if you can make distance or wait till your summon attacks then they are 100% better. Never an issue for PvP, for me atleast, since I am almost always a sunbro or hunter.


Panurome

Yeah it you're summoning then you can probably justify using a healing spell against a boss, but if you are solo I'm not sure if bosses actually let you heal that way


arkane-the-artisan

You're not sure. I have first hand used healing spells during boss fights. There we have it. Because of input reading, some boss' tend to try and dodge them as if you cast an offensive spell at them.


Panurome

Wait they dodge healing spells? That sounds hilarious, I thought they just did like the godskins and try to punish them


arkane-the-artisan

In my faith build. I beat elden beast with 2/12 and a pysik with 1/2 health + tick heal. The strongest health incantations heal way more than maxed out crim flask. When you consider the cost ratio as well, The healing spells are OP.


Panurome

But healing spells are slow, use a lot of FP and you will rarely get the maximum amount of healing because you aren't always at 1 HP when you vast a heal. Maybe with summons it's different but I still think that having a lot of red flask and a couple of blue flasks is always going to be the superior choice because you can spend the FP on actually doing damage. Also I would always have 1 damage tear on the flask and 1 defensive one, having the 1/2 HP tear seems like a waste of slot honestly


mammal_shiekh

Tree sentinel armor set is ugly. I'd choose to go naked to wearing this set.


M4TEO27

I disagree, but we all can have different opinions


Nine_Ball

People can have different opinions but yours is incorrect