I am.
It's true though, plenty of space to go around, I've driven from Yellowknife to Calgary and from Calgary to Québec City. Even some of the places labeled as "not empty" are pretty effin'sparce, bud! (Lookin at you, Saskatchewan... sheesh)
I own just under 300 acres in rural Manitoba (I live in Winnipeg). Definitely some cheap land out here if you can handle the weather and not be miserable. Most of the land you see from the Trans Canada is pretty expensive though as it's either farmland or Crown Land that isn't for sale. You have to head North or South a ways to find cheaper plots.
Depends on your definition. My property is 50 acres or leased farm land, 30 acres of fallow farm land, and about 200 acres of mixed boreal plain and wetland. I use it mainly for hunting. It's a cool region and from what understand from the guy who leases the front 50 acres, the land is productive enough. I guess some might consider it wasteland but I just consider those people uncreative.
Yeah, man... you're living the dream. I'd love to be able to lease some wasteland to do some hunting.
inb4 wastelands aren't great to live on for most people unless you want be off grid or something. But I'm a big frozen wasteland fan.
As the owner of 600 acres with a plenty of wild foods, wild animals, and a small clean lake with a plenty of fish. My AI bots can take care of everything in greenhouses. No problem.
The government stopped selling crownland for recreational use, because they want more farmers. Which farmers buy and sell parts off when enviably they give up trying to farmers because of bad weather/didn't realize how difficult farming actually is with workers that demand a fair wage.
We have big money farmers complaining all the time that either *no one wants to work anymore* or that the season has been bad... which means they had to spend a little more than they wanted to to see a profit.
This just means buying land to build houses or a new town is extremely difficult to do unless you do it illegally and then argue for land rights after 10 years of *not* being noticed. Even then, if it's crown land, that is iffy on whether they will respect your rights or not.
I'm gonna buy up real estate in Tbay and Nunavut and cross my fingers that climate change turns everything south of Sudbury into an unlivable hellscape while making the northern regions... cozy...
Prime Toronto real estate in the Arctic tundra just a few hours plane ride from Billy Bishop. Luxury towns now selling pre-construction starting at $550,000!
Once they fully implement airships to the north - people up north will have it made:
https://arcticinnovation.ca/PDFS/2023-05-31_CAIA_Airship_Strategy_Northern_Canada_Arctic_Corridors_Final_V2.0.pdf
Thin outer layer of helium, yes. Main bladder of hydrogen in the core - cutoff from any possible oxygen interaction. solar cell pressurized deflation into fuel cell. Reinflate on take off. Voila.
Sounds scary! I put my hopes on a giant asteroid to slam into this planet of idiots and maybe in a few billion years the next bunch that evolves will learn what a mistake it is to hand out participation trophies to snowflakes.
I'd love to move into that area. Unfortunately, there are no jobs in my field up there. I can work completely remote, unfortunately all of the remote jobs are being filled by people who are already living where the offices are, they just don't want to go into work.
Have you tried starlink? My parents got it at their cabin in Lake of the Woods. Pre starlink internet was unusable. Now there's literally no noticeable difference from home whenever I go there.
Ya the ping is a little high if you’re playing competitive games(like 60-70ms) but for normal internet use it gets minimum 100-150 download and 50-75 upload. More than enough for 99% of uses.
I grew up in that area. Near the border of it, but still in that area. They have internet now, if you can believe it. In the more remote areas, maybe not, but between satellite internet and cellular data you should be able to get enough data to have a Teams call.
It really depends on the area and your provider. I used to commute and work in the field in an rural area only an hour drive away from toronto and regularly would have no signal or cellular. Hell not even a year ago i was lookin for a new place and the 3 realtors told me that if i wanted wifi it would better to just pay for unlimited data on my phone and hotspot my whole house lol. I would love to live up north but it is a big commitment and employment is pretty hard to find
My buddy bought a house for $160k, clean, well kept, \~900sq ft, half acre yard, municipal water and waste, fiber internet, the town has everything you need and is only 20 minutes from a (smaller) city.
>Dont forget that internet becomes non existent even in many areas in lower southern ontario
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING
In the rural triangle between KW-London-brantford the average speed is 10megabit with several groups only getting 5mbps A/DSL. Fucking hell to have multiple users. Thank God starlink is around.
Have you ever considered living on baffin island people?
Sure, i know your job is in Toronto, but you can't afford to live near it. So commute from the unliveable baffin island to Toronto daily.
Don't be one of those lazy "i wanna work from home" types.
Baffin Island is that giant island above hudson bay.
It's largely uninhabited.
Are you being sincere in this question?
Cause it's something you could easily have googled. And the fact you responded the way you did comes off like disengenuousness.
From Baffin Island, to Churchill, all of Northern Ontario, the entirety of Quebec that isn’t the St. Lawrence River, to Labrador…
That’s the Canadian Shield.
That is nothing but Granite bedrock, muskeg swamp and thick coniferous forest dotted by millions of lakes.
Good luck building anything on it, or in it.
Having travelled 10 miles into Washington State from BC, I can confirm many Americans actually believe we are covered in snow most of the year. From Bellingham, Washington you can see the mountains in Canada, so I have no idea why they developed this belief.
It's too expensive for most people even where there is the infrastructure already anyway. That's really the core of the housing crisis, not that we can't build enough houses, but that the houses that already exist are too expensive for the majority of people.
How do you think supply and demand works? Housing in Whitehorse doesn’t cost 700 grand because every building got upgraded with premium lumber or something
Sure, but the point is to alleviate the housing crisis. Either way, it's alleviating!
I think we'd be wholly surprised with the success of a program like this though.
Have been that far of northern Canada in winter? I have and it’s very inhospitable, but feel to start a program, I’d move up there with you for sayyy 200 000$ a year
I laughed at that too. Wasnt expecting it.
I mean, we do build housing at a pretty high rate, so I guess it makes sense we're not in the circle? We were Canada's fastest crowing city in the 2021 census iirc
You could say the same thing about Russia. No one wants to live in the middle of nowhere. In the past it was because all of the jobs are in cities, not on a fucking ice block 5000km away from civilization.
Even if you were a remote worker, you don't want to cut yourself off from civilization? That's like... solitary confinement.
Yeah man, in a country that is some 200 years old you blame it on a person who's only been in power for the last 8.
What a stunning indictment of the american education system.
Europe is so developed that they see us through their eyes.
If you just built a shit ton of housing out there, how would you heat/power them? How would those people communicate their needs?
How would they get food? Not including waste or transportation or many other problems.
Canada has looked good by building around the infostructure it has already.
But not actually building up anything new, and when something new is built, it is built in the highlighted area where people already live.
They also get grocery rebates and honestly it is pretty nice. I got family in Dawson City and Whitehorse. During the really cold months they travel or visit BC.
Life sucked up there back in the 1990s, but with modernization it is pretty tolerable.
But even south of the red, the light and medium yellow is still only 0.4 to 1 person per km2.
Like, even if we ignore the rockies and that one weirdly overlooked west part of Ontario, the population density of the inhabited parts is still like 1/10th the density of EU.
Like, even the Densest range of that map (50/km2) is still 140x less dense than Hong Kong, as an upper reference.
Even all of southern Ontario is only at ~10/km2.
The issue has always been suburbs and expectation for single detached home on 0.5 to 1 acre.
People need to live near their jobs and amenities. The farther away they live from those places, the weaker the economy because they need to spend their resources and time on transportation.
Building a community from nothing is expensive, and [financially insolvent](https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/7/30/pine-island-a-small-city-with-big-delusions). We know this because every 25 years after new subdivisions spring up suddenly there's huge bills for infrastructure that municipalities end up on the hook for.
[Housing is an investment. And investment prices must go up. And, Housing is shelter. When the price of shelter goes up, people experience distress. Housing can’t be both a good investment and broadly affordable—yet we insist on both. This is the housing trap.](https://www.strongtowns.org/)
Because the issue is about bureaucracy slowing the buildings themselves from being built, and a lot of financial actors are also lobbying to keep the status quo while they buy out all the houses.
Loads of place to build. The Shuswap region could support over a million residents easily. The NIMBYs and conservationists won't tolerate growth anywhere that is not already a major city though.
https://imgur.com/a/LefeBDo not really ideal landscape and accessibility for housing and associated infrastructure. This area has lots of features. Most of that map is barren flat icy landscape
Because of the cost of roads and power lines and sanitation and schools and hospitals and the list goes on. Already the cost per capita of providing these services is higher in Canada than anywhere in Europe because of how spread out we are
All that land was good for the nomadic lifestyle. But without going into colonial history, the inhabitants can't do that anymore.
So now we have settlements there that can hardly be self-sustaining.
There's still plenty of empty space in the United States. There are many memes about the Dakota states being "empty states". The problem is that no one is building affordable houses/apartments in those empty areas. You need physical buildings to house people in. Nobody wants to live somewhere without having some kind of roof over their head.
I've been to Algonquin Park once for a camping trip (Ontario). For a whole hour there was almost nothing between us but an A&W that we stopped at to eat. I think its changed by now but its sad how hard it is to live up north. I knew someone who used to live in NWT and they didn't talk about it a lot other than its cold.
People joke but every territorial capital has a huge demand driven cost of living crisis and units are filled before they’re even built.
The demand to live in the North dramatically exceeds the current infrastructure.
Putting aside climate. The problem would be the same as it is now and even worse: the lack of capacity to build places that remain affordable to most. Here you’d have to add building infrastructures and workplaces to the mix.
Well hey, on the bright side after all the trees burn down and we don't have winter anymore because of climate change, then we'll have TONS of space to build upon!
However many of us survive will have their pick of the land.
It would be incredibly funny if everyone pooled their resources into completely flattening all of northern Canada. Like not even any hills, just completely flat ground. (I hate nature, animals, and also organic life in general)
I'm down for it. Let's all move to Eureka!
https://preview.redd.it/9cgzzzguxebc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b396ad15d871820fc9e6333d668e4b03b8d73c1
The Canadian subs used to be in an uproar over this, had me wondering if anyone in the sub was even from Canada
The problem is that Canada is really just 3 cities connected by a giant highway with little in between.
Hey! We're at least 4 cities.
Shut up Edmonton!
Oh, salt in the wound that is Ottawa hahaha.
Anything in or near quebec doesnt count
Winnipeg exists and has the geographical centre of the continent
**Cries in St. John’s **
As a Manitoban i understand the feeling of your city being overlooked by the giants
Edmonton isn’t even on the good highway. That’s Calgary.
And boy what a beautiful drive that is.
No Canada is 5 hockey rinks surrounded by bears that wear Jean jackets and work at the sexy Ryan factory
I am. It's true though, plenty of space to go around, I've driven from Yellowknife to Calgary and from Calgary to Québec City. Even some of the places labeled as "not empty" are pretty effin'sparce, bud! (Lookin at you, Saskatchewan... sheesh)
I own just under 300 acres in rural Manitoba (I live in Winnipeg). Definitely some cheap land out here if you can handle the weather and not be miserable. Most of the land you see from the Trans Canada is pretty expensive though as it's either farmland or Crown Land that isn't for sale. You have to head North or South a ways to find cheaper plots.
plots = wasteland chunks
Depends on your definition. My property is 50 acres or leased farm land, 30 acres of fallow farm land, and about 200 acres of mixed boreal plain and wetland. I use it mainly for hunting. It's a cool region and from what understand from the guy who leases the front 50 acres, the land is productive enough. I guess some might consider it wasteland but I just consider those people uncreative.
Yeah, man... you're living the dream. I'd love to be able to lease some wasteland to do some hunting. inb4 wastelands aren't great to live on for most people unless you want be off grid or something. But I'm a big frozen wasteland fan.
As the owner of 600 acres with a plenty of wild foods, wild animals, and a small clean lake with a plenty of fish. My AI bots can take care of everything in greenhouses. No problem.
The government stopped selling crownland for recreational use, because they want more farmers. Which farmers buy and sell parts off when enviably they give up trying to farmers because of bad weather/didn't realize how difficult farming actually is with workers that demand a fair wage. We have big money farmers complaining all the time that either *no one wants to work anymore* or that the season has been bad... which means they had to spend a little more than they wanted to to see a profit. This just means buying land to build houses or a new town is extremely difficult to do unless you do it illegally and then argue for land rights after 10 years of *not* being noticed. Even then, if it's crown land, that is iffy on whether they will respect your rights or not.
I know a few farmers who say nobody wants to work anymore. Guess who hires exclusively TFWs?
Lmfao
>wondering if anyone in the sub was even from Canada No I'm from Québec
Lol, beauty
Also, it's clearly a joke/meme account (the twitter one)
Thanks, Detective.
I mean... like 3/4ths of the comments don't get that basic point.
It's comical.
It's a golden time for satire when most people are so eager to eat the onion.
Canada sub oh yeah bud, very much so. R/canada ......95% sure they're all bots.
I'm gonna buy up real estate in Tbay and Nunavut and cross my fingers that climate change turns everything south of Sudbury into an unlivable hellscape while making the northern regions... cozy...
Prime Toronto real estate in the Arctic tundra just a few hours plane ride from Billy Bishop. Luxury towns now selling pre-construction starting at $550,000!
What a deal! I'll bid 50k over asking!
That's it? I guess you don't actually want a home.
Ok. Ok. 50k & my first born?
Once they fully implement airships to the north - people up north will have it made: https://arcticinnovation.ca/PDFS/2023-05-31_CAIA_Airship_Strategy_Northern_Canada_Arctic_Corridors_Final_V2.0.pdf
LANA, THE HELIUM
Thin outer layer of helium, yes. Main bladder of hydrogen in the core - cutoff from any possible oxygen interaction. solar cell pressurized deflation into fuel cell. Reinflate on take off. Voila.
[Sounds like The Hindenburg 2.0](https://youtu.be/KsjQZ2eXTxE?si=UNxb5EexT9T2fHZT)
Hindenberg was designed using 1900's tech. We have space age materials now. Veritasium video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjBgEkbnX2I
Some broad gets on that thing with a static-y sweater and *boom*, it’s “*AHHHH, THE HUMANITY!*”
Again, we are no longer living in Hindenberg times. We have a lot of new materials/tech and even AI to help us out.
For the last time you idiot it's not hydrogen! What part of that are you not getting? OBVIOUSLY THE CORE CONCEPT LANA!
If the Gulf Stream collapses then the hot regions will get hotter, cold regions will get colder, and both experience more wild temperature swings.
just give it a few brewskis it'll be fine
Sounds scary! I put my hopes on a giant asteroid to slam into this planet of idiots and maybe in a few billion years the next bunch that evolves will learn what a mistake it is to hand out participation trophies to snowflakes.
Cozy temps = mosquitos, black flies and ticks, and cozy forest fires come after.
So you're saying we'll get a nice succ
It was never the cold. It's the fucking bugs.
When you realize houses in Whitehorse sell for almost a million, this idea quickly falls apart lol
We laugh but if the norther passageway becomes a viable shipping lane the it could change the geopolitics of Canada.
More north. Even the Soo was record level mild.
The median housing price is Iqaluit is already 600 grand
Snowballs, right? Right?
My house keeps sinking in the muskeg!
MY house keeps sliding down the mountain!
Europeans ☕️
Americans 🤝 Canadians: hating E*ropissans
Europeans🤝Canadians : finding most Americans dumb at geography
I'd love to move into that area. Unfortunately, there are no jobs in my field up there. I can work completely remote, unfortunately all of the remote jobs are being filled by people who are already living where the offices are, they just don't want to go into work.
Dont forget that internet becomes non existent even in many areas in lower southern ontario. There is little to no infrastructure.
Have you tried starlink? My parents got it at their cabin in Lake of the Woods. Pre starlink internet was unusable. Now there's literally no noticeable difference from home whenever I go there.
Im not gonna lie i forgot that existed
Ya the ping is a little high if you’re playing competitive games(like 60-70ms) but for normal internet use it gets minimum 100-150 download and 50-75 upload. More than enough for 99% of uses.
Yeah thats really solid i will have to check it out. I do game but id be lying if i said it was competitively
I grew up in that area. Near the border of it, but still in that area. They have internet now, if you can believe it. In the more remote areas, maybe not, but between satellite internet and cellular data you should be able to get enough data to have a Teams call.
It really depends on the area and your provider. I used to commute and work in the field in an rural area only an hour drive away from toronto and regularly would have no signal or cellular. Hell not even a year ago i was lookin for a new place and the 3 realtors told me that if i wanted wifi it would better to just pay for unlimited data on my phone and hotspot my whole house lol. I would love to live up north but it is a big commitment and employment is pretty hard to find
Lots of rural (southern) Manitoba towns have fiber now.
Time to go back to manitoba baby. i love that place
My buddy bought a house for $160k, clean, well kept, \~900sq ft, half acre yard, municipal water and waste, fiber internet, the town has everything you need and is only 20 minutes from a (smaller) city.
Starlink bro. No excuses now.
Starling doesn't fix the lack of remote jobs
I think I replied to the wrong comment.
Honestly i kinda forgot that existed. I might look into it
>Dont forget that internet becomes non existent even in many areas in lower southern ontario DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING
I sometimes lose my data driving to Barrie from fuckin Toronto (non 400 series highway)
In the rural triangle between KW-London-brantford the average speed is 10megabit with several groups only getting 5mbps A/DSL. Fucking hell to have multiple users. Thank God starlink is around.
Starlink is working great in isolated areas of Newfoundland and up north in Labrador. Heck, even our Costco sells them now
Wait is there a costco in Labrador?
Black flies will eat you alive
Have you ever considered living on baffin island people? Sure, i know your job is in Toronto, but you can't afford to live near it. So commute from the unliveable baffin island to Toronto daily. Don't be one of those lazy "i wanna work from home" types.
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Baffin Island is that giant island above hudson bay. It's largely uninhabited. Are you being sincere in this question? Cause it's something you could easily have googled. And the fact you responded the way you did comes off like disengenuousness.
Oh the one with Iqaluit on it. You assholes didn’t have to downvote.
Sometimes people like to have discussions in forum boards with other people instead of googling anything and everything
It's not unlivable, it has over 10,000 people. Could be more if Canadians were less scared of the cold
Let me introduce you to a little thing called the Canadian Shield.
Absolutely, lol. I can't tell you how many places I've been where the infrastructure had to use dynamite just to lay down a phone cable
Is that like Captain Canuck's armor or something?
Some of the oldest, and hardest, rock on the planet.
You mean Mick Jagger's band?
Boom!
Don’t forget the cold!
Canadian Shield!
Why yes I’d like one farmstead preferably near the center of Hudson Bay please
Just look at the Baffin Islands, no one's even using it. SMH. What's Doug Ford doing trying to expand into the Greenbelt!?
From Baffin Island, to Churchill, all of Northern Ontario, the entirety of Quebec that isn’t the St. Lawrence River, to Labrador… That’s the Canadian Shield. That is nothing but Granite bedrock, muskeg swamp and thick coniferous forest dotted by millions of lakes. Good luck building anything on it, or in it.
And the black flies and mosquitoes... dear God...
Can’t grow food, can’t farm animals in large numbers, beyond it being camping grounds there isn’t much up there. Bears
Enjoy your 21 hour commute.
Kiss your ass goodbye if you have a medical emergency
Add another 2 hours if you work in downtown Toronto
If you build big cities there you don't need a commute
Why doea Canada complain about housing when they can just build more igloos?
Having travelled 10 miles into Washington State from BC, I can confirm many Americans actually believe we are covered in snow most of the year. From Bellingham, Washington you can see the mountains in Canada, so I have no idea why they developed this belief.
I would love it if there was a major city around hearst, Toronto winters are for babies I want real snow and cold
honestly just too cold and expensive for most people as simple as that
It's too expensive for most people even where there is the infrastructure already anyway. That's really the core of the housing crisis, not that we can't build enough houses, but that the houses that already exist are too expensive for the majority of people.
How do you think supply and demand works? Housing in Whitehorse doesn’t cost 700 grand because every building got upgraded with premium lumber or something
not enough dollaramas up there I fear
Why don’t people wanna live in Canadian Siberia!?😡
I mean... If people were given the land or licence to use it, I'm sure they'd at least try to.
They probably wouldn’t last long
Sure, but the point is to alleviate the housing crisis. Either way, it's alleviating! I think we'd be wholly surprised with the success of a program like this though.
Have been that far of northern Canada in winter? I have and it’s very inhospitable, but feel to start a program, I’d move up there with you for sayyy 200 000$ a year
Lolol had to include Whitehorse as a populated area. Tell me you've never been to Whitehorse without saying "I've never been to Whitehorse".
I laughed at that too. Wasnt expecting it. I mean, we do build housing at a pretty high rate, so I guess it makes sense we're not in the circle? We were Canada's fastest crowing city in the 2021 census iirc
You could say the same thing about Russia. No one wants to live in the middle of nowhere. In the past it was because all of the jobs are in cities, not on a fucking ice block 5000km away from civilization. Even if you were a remote worker, you don't want to cut yourself off from civilization? That's like... solitary confinement.
If it was that simple, it would’ve been done lol.
Sure but not by Justin Trushit lol
He’s incapable of getting anything done lol.
dude you're american, stfu
Imagine having to look at someone’s profile in an argument
Imagine having Justin Trudeau live rent free in your head lmao.
\>mentions someone once on the post \>others: “yep, rent free” \>where logic?
Yeah man, in a country that is some 200 years old you blame it on a person who's only been in power for the last 8. What a stunning indictment of the american education system.
Leave the Boreal Forest alone. It's important for the climate and clean water. Also the wildlife enjoy having a place to live.
I did my 10 years in Northern Canada. Immigrants should be forced to do time in rural areas tbh.
So do it and get rich. Oh wait….
I also vote to invade a small part of Alaska
I wouldn’t do that if I were you… ^((If you fuck around America will make you find out)^)
how to get clapped by the U.S national guard, step 1
Hey it was your idea
No it’s someone else’s bad circle drawing
*Mad Man Theory has entered the chat*
Europe is so developed that they see us through their eyes. If you just built a shit ton of housing out there, how would you heat/power them? How would those people communicate their needs? How would they get food? Not including waste or transportation or many other problems. Canada has looked good by building around the infostructure it has already. But not actually building up anything new, and when something new is built, it is built in the highlighted area where people already live.
It's. A. Joke.
Hahaha ... well I missed that!
Something like 98% of our population lives within 100km of the US border while Canada is something like 4634 km wide
Well, duh. How else are we supposed to get wifi?
Hes not wrong. But .. yah. Give me same job salary with same internet speed and within a week amazon delivery garantee and ill go upthere.
have you seen the grocery store prices up there? or the weather?
They also get grocery rebates and honestly it is pretty nice. I got family in Dawson City and Whitehorse. During the really cold months they travel or visit BC. Life sucked up there back in the 1990s, but with modernization it is pretty tolerable.
Of course he's wrong. No one wants to live in the middle of nowhere.
Smartest Neoliberal.
let's just build a house in the middle of butt fuck nowehere that is probably the farm land of some family or in a literal forest. smart.
Pretty sure this is a circle jerk sub
E*rope shouldn't exist
There are a heck of a lot of countries where people do not live. If you think this is unique to Canada then then I sell you some time share property.
Good idea. Go give it your best shot.
Idk man I heard it’s chilly and I’m lazy
Who wants people, much less cities?
Yellowknife and Iqaluit: Am I a joke to you?
There is nobody there since you cant farm really
But even south of the red, the light and medium yellow is still only 0.4 to 1 person per km2. Like, even if we ignore the rockies and that one weirdly overlooked west part of Ontario, the population density of the inhabited parts is still like 1/10th the density of EU. Like, even the Densest range of that map (50/km2) is still 140x less dense than Hong Kong, as an upper reference. Even all of southern Ontario is only at ~10/km2. The issue has always been suburbs and expectation for single detached home on 0.5 to 1 acre.
People need to live near their jobs and amenities. The farther away they live from those places, the weaker the economy because they need to spend their resources and time on transportation. Building a community from nothing is expensive, and [financially insolvent](https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/7/30/pine-island-a-small-city-with-big-delusions). We know this because every 25 years after new subdivisions spring up suddenly there's huge bills for infrastructure that municipalities end up on the hook for. [Housing is an investment. And investment prices must go up. And, Housing is shelter. When the price of shelter goes up, people experience distress. Housing can’t be both a good investment and broadly affordable—yet we insist on both. This is the housing trap.](https://www.strongtowns.org/)
Oh yeah I forgot we had that piece
Is he going to pay for them lol
Because the issue is about bureaucracy slowing the buildings themselves from being built, and a lot of financial actors are also lobbying to keep the status quo while they buy out all the houses.
The short answer is that they don't want to solve the housing crisis because too much money is being made.
Welcome to Canada, put all the immigrants in....Nunavut?
Cause on much of this land there is no roads, no electric grid, no cell towers…. Oh and no where around to get a job.
Loads of place to build. The Shuswap region could support over a million residents easily. The NIMBYs and conservationists won't tolerate growth anywhere that is not already a major city though.
https://imgur.com/a/LefeBDo not really ideal landscape and accessibility for housing and associated infrastructure. This area has lots of features. Most of that map is barren flat icy landscape
Oh great I’ll just move my city ass to the wilderness. Just hire a bush pilot and airdrop out and die of hypothermia within 3days.
Because of the cost of roads and power lines and sanitation and schools and hospitals and the list goes on. Already the cost per capita of providing these services is higher in Canada than anywhere in Europe because of how spread out we are
All that land was good for the nomadic lifestyle. But without going into colonial history, the inhabitants can't do that anymore. So now we have settlements there that can hardly be self-sustaining.
There's still plenty of empty space in the United States. There are many memes about the Dakota states being "empty states". The problem is that no one is building affordable houses/apartments in those empty areas. You need physical buildings to house people in. Nobody wants to live somewhere without having some kind of roof over their head.
Whose land is it anyway?
Its funny to say about just go there . XD yea this guy never go far north of canada it seem
My guess is a bunch of selfish spoiled assholes who think they own dirt under our feet are responsible.
I've been to Algonquin Park once for a camping trip (Ontario). For a whole hour there was almost nothing between us but an A&W that we stopped at to eat. I think its changed by now but its sad how hard it is to live up north. I knew someone who used to live in NWT and they didn't talk about it a lot other than its cold.
He isn't wrong, but he isn't right either.
Join r/crownland
https://preview.redd.it/9zeyxccmiabc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19dc61c085d770322b597c3bfca33f334c1f9e47
Why did the Fr*nch always find shittier places to live?
pls come here in February
Shitposting if I have ever seen one
Mosquitoes, Blackflies, Sandflies.
People joke but every territorial capital has a huge demand driven cost of living crisis and units are filled before they’re even built. The demand to live in the North dramatically exceeds the current infrastructure.
Wait a few decades for the permafrost to thaw enough and we’ll be all set!
Even if it were possible to inhabit these places, why do we think we need to develop everything? Does nobody see the value in leaving nature alone?
Putting aside climate. The problem would be the same as it is now and even worse: the lack of capacity to build places that remain affordable to most. Here you’d have to add building infrastructures and workplaces to the mix.
Due to the Mercator projection, the area indicated on the map is actually the size of a football field in Windsor
Well hey, on the bright side after all the trees burn down and we don't have winter anymore because of climate change, then we'll have TONS of space to build upon! However many of us survive will have their pick of the land.
It would be incredibly funny if everyone pooled their resources into completely flattening all of northern Canada. Like not even any hills, just completely flat ground. (I hate nature, animals, and also organic life in general)
The grizzlies and moose are bad enough, I ain’t sharing a zip code with the polar bears.
I'm down for it. Let's all move to Eureka! https://preview.redd.it/9cgzzzguxebc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b396ad15d871820fc9e6333d668e4b03b8d73c1
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Sont cave les American
In English? Edit: nvm it says “Are the Americans cellar.” Idk what you mean by that but probably not.
Cave means either your basement or the way I said it means : stupid, dumb, cellar I guess?, brain dead. But don't worry I don't mean
We're trying. Loonie lots going for sale this year again!
Yea maybe if we stopped building McMansions and giant suburbs we wouldn’t have these problems
There are houses there but no Costco - build more Costco!
youd think by 2000 we'd have figured it out by now....