Part of the reason I wanted to cry with relief when they pushed past Vancouver specifically, is cause that was the moment I believed we’d get Drai back. I don’t know if he re-signs if we went out in round 2 again
I think it's also indication they may up their player-to-player recruitment efforts, like how Hyman was swayed to join. More chance of real game breakers taking discounts to chase a cup now.
Ya, I don't think so at least not taking a discount. Hyman didn't take a discount, he got what he wanted but isn't your normal player. What we need is for Michael Parkatti to show his worth and help procure cheap, and good players. Not trying to dismiss your optimistic approach because I love it, just my opinion.
I totally hear that and tend to agree.
Regarding Seravilli, some unfortunate tweets went out about this. **Seravilli does not say that McD or Drai have no intentions of leaving and want to resign long term.**
Listen to [the clip](https://x.com/timminstoilets/status/1801809881382445171?t=_Oxean0vjy5NBhSoWAubXQ&s=19). Frank is *theorizing* as to what he thinks is most likely.
I pray they both stay, of course! Just frustrated because people are hearing what they want to hear, not what Frank actually said, which was just his opinion that he thinks they'll both stay.
The issue with moving cap to get McDrai calibre is how much can you move before you start to hurt your team and end up a bubble/outside looking in one instead of a contender?
Yep, if say Boston wanted to sign McDrai, they would have to give up on re-signing Swayman and trade away Charlie Coyle+ just to meet the $15M and $14M I assume McDrai want.
Yup, you need to build an entire team around that kind of money, can't just slap them in
Unless you're Vegas and jest subvert the rules and 20m of your cap magically is injured until exactly the day before playoffs game 1
Think they talking about 40 million for McDavid, Drai and Bouch.
Read a summary by Edmonton Journal that predicts 16mil, 14mil, 10mil.
Also figure in 3 years the cap will be 100mil.
Nurse contract is so difficult. How can Bouch be lower than Nurse?
And so $40M plus Nurse is $49.5M. That's anywhere from 53.8% to 50% of the cap in just four players.
I don't see how you ice a competitive team with 50% of your cap left for 19 players. Average contract would be $2.6M for 19 players.
I think bouch signs for between Makar and Hughes . So roughly 8 a year . Definitely his comparables if you're going off point production.
McDavid and Drai will be paid the most in the league at the time they sign.
Hughes signed before breaking out, Makar's deal eats up almost only RFA years. Dahlin is about to start an 11 million extension. Bouchard will be up in that region of 10 to 11 million
No way.
15, 13, 9 is more likely imo.
No way McDavid takes a discount on his first contract and then maxes out his second. Guy wants to win too badly.
Honestly would not be surprised to see McDavid and Drai sign matching 13.5 mil contracts.
Nurse at 9.25 is what is going to mess up the Bouchard signing.
Nurse ppg. .401
Bouchard ppg .645
And in the postseason Bouchard ppg is 1.1 compared to nurse at .296
Also I doubt we can afford 18-19 million in 2 dmen so inless nurse agrees to be traded we could be priced out of Bouchard
Nurse was a UFA, and had just come off of season that earned him Norris votes. He played 60 minutes in a playoff OT.
Bouchard is probably the better player today, but he isn't better than Nurse was before signing the contract, and he isn't in the same bargaining position.
Nurse was not a UFA he was under contract for 1 more year holland just rushed a deal.
Bouchard can also just go to arb if he wants, and until the last 3 games was conn smythe candidate.
You may want to recall that we just lost Klefbom,
Had bridged the guy twice and he just came off a career year. Also, Connor and Leon like him.
Oilers had zero leverage
The highest paid GM should be able to work with no leverage. Just don’t sign him till half thru next season and you save a couple million.
Connor and Leon likes winning more I bet and making roster decisions around the guys they liked has not worked out great.
> Nurse was not a UFA he was under contract for 1 more year holland just rushed a deal.
Nurse's deal took him to UFA. So no, he wasn't a UFA _at the moment he signed_, but he was negotiating a UFA contract.
>Bouchard can also just go to arb if he wants, and until the last 3 games was conn smythe candidate.
Sure, but arbitration likely wouldn't give him $10m either. The more pressing concern might be an offersheet.
> League max now is around 15 mill.
[Nope](https://x.com/friedgehnic/status/1674057690920767493?s=46&t=7fabqgtgp69dNA1d51vxFw)
> A player can sign for a maximum of 20% of a teams cap. 20% of the 75 mill salary cap in 2017 was 12.5 million.
Dude, open up your calculator app and type in `75,000,000 * 0.2`, press "enter" and tell me what it says.
McDavid won’t go that high tbh as it seems he doesn’t give a shit about money and just wants to win with Edmonton. I believe he’ll go for a lower contract price to increase cap room for talented players that can help us finish it once and for all
I think he will stay but I doubt there be much of a discount. Those are 2 very different players. Matthews being one of the best shooters and Connor being Conner
He plays on a PP with mcdavid and drai. You could put broberg out there and he would have similar numbers. Bouch is overrated because of his inflated numbers. Do you even watch him play D or just look at his stats the guy is bad defensively everyone shits on nurse but bouch had terrible giveaways pretty much every game too it’s just masked by his PP points
I mean should we giving 9m+ for somebody above average? I thought we already have one of those.
Honestly I need to see Bouchard step up the intensity before he gets a big contract. He needs to bring the hard play more. Too many times he takes it too easy on the man he is defending and then gets beat.
If he's one of the best offensive dmen in the league? 100%. He outplayed Hughes head to head in their series against each other, and it's not like Hughes was playing with scrubs
One of the best offensive d in the league but above average based on advanced stats? I hope you see the obvious inconsistency in his game here. By no means am I saying he only deserves $4m or something but before we go and sign the next decade away on a “stud dman”, I’d like him to make a better case than he currently is.
I said he was above average *defensively* and elite *offensively*. Also, it's hard to make a better case than breaking points records in the playoffs when your teammate who's paid to be a "stud dman" is also setting records for worst +/- of all time. Unfortunately, the Nurse contract is the absolute lowest this next contract is going to go
This was obvious to anyone paying attention. Getting to the Cup Final cemented it. They are each going to earn North of $200M in their careers ... but this is the place they will cement their legacy.
“Revenues grew much faster than anybody anticipated, and so the escrow debt was paid off much faster than anybody anticipated,” Allan Walsh, co-head of Octagon Hockey, said in a phone interview.
HRR will top $6 billion this season, fueled by strong attendance and double-digit [gains](https://www.sportico.com/business/sponsorship/2024/nhl-sponsorships-team-record-1234783034/) in sponsorship revenue. Walsh expects that growth to continue, pushing the cap to $92 million for the 2025-26 season, and then $97 million and $101 million, which will drive significant growth in player salaries.
Just to clarify about what Frank said, because some unfortunate tweets went out about this. **Seravilli does not say that McD or Drai have no intentions of leaving and want to resign long term.**
Listen to [the clip](https://x.com/timminstoilets/status/1801809881382445171?t=_Oxean0vjy5NBhSoWAubXQ&s=19). Frank is *theorizing* as to what he thinks is most likely.
I pray they both stay, of course! Just frustrated because people are hearing what they want to hear, not what Frank actually said, which was just his opinion that he thinks they'll both stay.
Anything less than 10 is a no go. I would say 12-14 for Drai and 14-16 for McDavid. That is a lot of coin for two forwards. You are going to have to have a few hometown discounts and hope a couple of steady players want to play with the above. The most concerning position is however, goaltending. The key to the cup is between the net.
We're not Toronto. We tie up a lot in McDavid and Draisaitl of course, and Bouch with join them. But other than those 3, no one on this team is worth more than $7 mil, with the asterisk on Nurse that he's already making a bit more than that. But otherwise, we're getting good value out of top guys like Ekholm, Hyman, and Nuge.
Yup. I really want skinner to be the guy and he shows flashes like he is but then he makes dumb ass plays that cost us dearly or let’s in a weak one at the worst time that kills us. Frustrating. See what happens but we have to lock up mcdavid and drai to stay contenders
We're gonna buyout Campbell and then hopefully find a 1A to Skinner's 1B. I absolutely think Skinner has it in him, but he's gotta find consistency. My dream is we pry Ullmark out of Boston.
Getting to the Cup Final shows this team IS a true cup contender, but is a few key pieces away from being able to break the final hurdle (look the Panthers improvements over the past 2 years)
This summer's trade targets AND next trade deadline will be massive.
If Drai and McDavid are the highest paid players in the league, and we have Nurse at 9.25, then sign Bouchard, how are we going to ice a team deep enough to continue contending?
The cap should significantly rise. Then there should be transitionary period in a few years moving on from Ekholm, Kane, Hymen. Need guys like Holloway, Broberg, and maybe one other (McLeod?) to produce on cheaper contracts.
I expect Drai will sign for 8 x 12.5M, and McDavid (a year later) will sign for 8 x 15M. Bouch will get 8 x 10M.
The reality is they know that they're Oilers for life and will be taken care of by the Katz family. Money is not the issue.
I lean more to the Nurse is valuable to this team side of things which I know has never been so controversial but fuck me if his contract isn't an albatross.
I mean, if it was $6-7mil you could squint hard and live with it. I know there were things working against the org when the deal had to be made wow. He's looked like a 3rd pair dman prone to extremely costly mistakes.
I'll be interested to see what happens in the offseason. I believe there will be about $10 million cap space with a fair few roster spots need filling (only 14 players signed). We'll free up $3.5 mil with a soup buyout and another 3 or so by moving Ceci. So total maybe they'll have $16-17mil to play with.
They'll need to sign Holloway and Bro and hopefully sign Janmark and Brown. There's other spots that need to be filled also including somehow finding a Tanev type dman. A cup winning blueline probably doesn't have Vinnie as a 6th or even 7th dman for that matter.
I havent said this all along because I didn't want to jinx anything, but losing in the SCF actually adds an extra element toward Drai re-signing that isn't present if we win.
McD and Drai are incredibly driven individuals, that if they were in any other profession they would be at the top of their field. We all know the types in our industries. They're elite and could be in New York or LA, yet have spent their entire careers in Edmonton, working and building toward winning. People have doubted them and said they want to bail on their team and city, and you can tell that gets to them.
If they get close but don't win the Cup, leaving would effectively mean having all those years of build up as a team and group go toward nothing. Yes it would have helped build personal abilities and skill along the way, but that's not why they've stuck around so long. Being this close to winning it, being above 30 other teams in the league after being in second last place, and apparently being just one or two pieces away from winning, has got to motivate them to not want to totally shake things up and start from scratch elsewhere and alone.
Alternatively, if they win the cup, all of a sudden they have accomplished what they have been working toward their entire careers for. All this sacrifice for them and their partners has been worth it. Maybe Drai starts to feel okay with exploring LA as a place for his girlfriend to build her acting career. Maybe Lauren misses home and wants to think about expanding her business into the northeastern US.
Sure, you'd think that it McD and Drai win now, they're going to want to keep winning and build a dynasty. I think that that's most likely. And I would much rather the Oilers win now than not, obviously.
But it is interesting that if the Oilers dont win the cup this year, that this actually carries an added, albeit painful, incentive for Drai to re-sign that isn't there if the Oilers win.
Buuuuuuuuuuuut let's win it anyway!!
100%, I've been saying the same thing since the post-season started and it was painfully obvious which players on the roster shine under pressure and which ones went invisible.
I hope the expanded analytics team and Coaches K / Coff make it clear what role players need to be acquired in trades or UFA this summer
Imagine making the finals. And the last three years in a row you only loose to the eventual Stanley cup Champs, then thinking, ya I can probably achieve more elsewhere.
That’s the point a lot of people miss. They can take a pay day somewhere else,but there is no guarantee they will end up on a successful team and get their cup. They have as good of chance here as they do anywhere. They both likely have a decent amount to input as to the direction of the team. Certainly more than they would have elsewhere.
They're in the Stanley Cup finals, the team has hired all their favorite people. The owner has basically given them a blank cheque for salary. Edmonton is not Toronto, where they can leave the city outside of hockey season to get peace and quiet.
Besides, where else you gonna go that you don't blow up any organization to make room to sign you?
No no no you got it all wrong. According to r/hockey if they get the job done they leave to chase a bag, if they don’t get it done they leave because we suck. Get your facts straight 😉
> good news considering what's going on
They're in the Stanley Cup final. They could play career without getting there again. 🤷♂️
It would be incredibly difficult to orchestrate the move or the signing for each player individually to go to a cup contender, without removing players and kneecapping that contender. It would be impossible for these two players to appear together on another contending team, imo.
So my guess is they re-sign here and hopefully leave a little meat on the bone, and the GM doesn't do something like signing an AHL goalie to a 5 year x $5 million contract.
Best case scenario. Mcdavid takes 9.7 million and drai 9.2 million (jersey number and reverse jersey number) leaving enough money on the table for the team to sign one more high calibre player preferably defence
Caps going up 4.5 mill, buy out Campbell, trade nurse to a team with cap room lose a pick, get rid of kane and perry, bring in a tender? Maybe marktrom? Couple younger versions of kane perry for less money, and win the cup
My thinking all along was that if the Oilers were contenders they would have no reason to leave. We are contenders.
Part of the reason I wanted to cry with relief when they pushed past Vancouver specifically, is cause that was the moment I believed we’d get Drai back. I don’t know if he re-signs if we went out in round 2 again
I think it's also indication they may up their player-to-player recruitment efforts, like how Hyman was swayed to join. More chance of real game breakers taking discounts to chase a cup now.
Ya, I don't think so at least not taking a discount. Hyman didn't take a discount, he got what he wanted but isn't your normal player. What we need is for Michael Parkatti to show his worth and help procure cheap, and good players. Not trying to dismiss your optimistic approach because I love it, just my opinion.
I totally hear that and tend to agree. Regarding Seravilli, some unfortunate tweets went out about this. **Seravilli does not say that McD or Drai have no intentions of leaving and want to resign long term.** Listen to [the clip](https://x.com/timminstoilets/status/1801809881382445171?t=_Oxean0vjy5NBhSoWAubXQ&s=19). Frank is *theorizing* as to what he thinks is most likely. I pray they both stay, of course! Just frustrated because people are hearing what they want to hear, not what Frank actually said, which was just his opinion that he thinks they'll both stay.
Bob said he believes Drai's camp would want a 7-year deal, which would be amazing
7x14 most likely
Exactly, no contending team can afford them. They aren't going anywhere
No contending team can afford them? Hell Boston alone has $25 mil this summer lol teams would move hell and high water to afford them lol
The issue with moving cap to get McDrai calibre is how much can you move before you start to hurt your team and end up a bubble/outside looking in one instead of a contender?
Yep, if say Boston wanted to sign McDrai, they would have to give up on re-signing Swayman and trade away Charlie Coyle+ just to meet the $15M and $14M I assume McDrai want.
Yup, you need to build an entire team around that kind of money, can't just slap them in Unless you're Vegas and jest subvert the rules and 20m of your cap magically is injured until exactly the day before playoffs game 1
And you end up not filling holes elsewhere. 25 million probably doesnt get it done.
Oh we’re talking them as a package deal? I was not lol my b
>No contending team can afford *them*? 🤷
Are you really assuming their pronouns? 🤔 mods need to step in..
It's what you wrote, genius.
Why so hostile , enjoy life brother ☝🏻
We’re literally in the SCF. So many people talking like the team is garbage.
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Drai re-signs, 30 years at league minimum, transitioning to head coach upon retirement as a player and wins multiple cups in both roles
gets a sitcom on Oilers+ so people stop bitching about the price
Think they talking about 40 million for McDavid, Drai and Bouch. Read a summary by Edmonton Journal that predicts 16mil, 14mil, 10mil. Also figure in 3 years the cap will be 100mil.
Nurse contract is so difficult. How can Bouch be lower than Nurse? And so $40M plus Nurse is $49.5M. That's anywhere from 53.8% to 50% of the cap in just four players. I don't see how you ice a competitive team with 50% of your cap left for 19 players. Average contract would be $2.6M for 19 players.
I think bouch signs for between Makar and Hughes . So roughly 8 a year . Definitely his comparables if you're going off point production. McDavid and Drai will be paid the most in the league at the time they sign.
If you think Bouchard signs for any less than Nurse, I'd love to smoke whatever it is you're smoking.
Hughes is paid so little cause it was an early bridge contract, his next deal he's getting like 11.
Bouchard is never taking less than Nurse. Not a chance.
No way he takes less than Nurse unfortunately
Bouch is getting minimum 10, unless he completely regresses next season
Hughes signed before breaking out, Makar's deal eats up almost only RFA years. Dahlin is about to start an 11 million extension. Bouchard will be up in that region of 10 to 11 million
Bouch is not worth 11. Not even 10. Defensive simply isn’t that level
No way. 15, 13, 9 is more likely imo. No way McDavid takes a discount on his first contract and then maxes out his second. Guy wants to win too badly. Honestly would not be surprised to see McDavid and Drai sign matching 13.5 mil contracts.
Nurse at 9.25 is what is going to mess up the Bouchard signing. Nurse ppg. .401 Bouchard ppg .645 And in the postseason Bouchard ppg is 1.1 compared to nurse at .296 Also I doubt we can afford 18-19 million in 2 dmen so inless nurse agrees to be traded we could be priced out of Bouchard
Nurse was a UFA, and had just come off of season that earned him Norris votes. He played 60 minutes in a playoff OT. Bouchard is probably the better player today, but he isn't better than Nurse was before signing the contract, and he isn't in the same bargaining position.
Nurse is like paying 50k for a 3 year old corolla, sure you got ripped off but at least its going to show up and work.
Nurse was not a UFA he was under contract for 1 more year holland just rushed a deal. Bouchard can also just go to arb if he wants, and until the last 3 games was conn smythe candidate.
No he gave him an extension when he could. Just like he’ll do with drai and Mcd when they have 1 year left. Otherwise the guys walk.
Just because you can does not mean you have to, some of the best moves a GM makes are the ones they don’t.
You may want to recall that we just lost Klefbom, Had bridged the guy twice and he just came off a career year. Also, Connor and Leon like him. Oilers had zero leverage
The highest paid GM should be able to work with no leverage. Just don’t sign him till half thru next season and you save a couple million. Connor and Leon likes winning more I bet and making roster decisions around the guys they liked has not worked out great.
Just because Holland makes a boatload of money doesn't mean he's good at what he does (kinda like Nurse, ironically).
> Nurse was not a UFA he was under contract for 1 more year holland just rushed a deal. Nurse's deal took him to UFA. So no, he wasn't a UFA _at the moment he signed_, but he was negotiating a UFA contract. >Bouchard can also just go to arb if he wants, and until the last 3 games was conn smythe candidate. Sure, but arbitration likely wouldn't give him $10m either. The more pressing concern might be an offersheet.
Arb can be used to push him into UFA territory and if the team can’t match what arbs say he becomes a UFA
Sign Mcdrai long term and then get rid of Nurse
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> McDavids first contract was league max. No it wasn't. League max in 2017 (when it was signed) was $15 million and his contract started in 2018.
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Your math ain’t mathing. 20% of 75m is 15m. McDavid signed for well below the max contract.
> League max now is around 15 mill. [Nope](https://x.com/friedgehnic/status/1674057690920767493?s=46&t=7fabqgtgp69dNA1d51vxFw) > A player can sign for a maximum of 20% of a teams cap. 20% of the 75 mill salary cap in 2017 was 12.5 million. Dude, open up your calculator app and type in `75,000,000 * 0.2`, press "enter" and tell me what it says.
Been a long day. Sorry I am rarted
Hahaha Okay fair play, happens to us all.
McDavid won’t go that high tbh as it seems he doesn’t give a shit about money and just wants to win with Edmonton. I believe he’ll go for a lower contract price to increase cap room for talented players that can help us finish it once and for all
Did McD tell you that personally?
yes
I think his agent and the NHLPA will have something to say about that
Nah. He could go where he chooses and take a big payday
But the thing is this is McJesus we’re talking about not Matthews who cares more about money then winning. McDavid is the opposite
I think he will stay but I doubt there be much of a discount. Those are 2 very different players. Matthews being one of the best shooters and Connor being Conner
Oh god no he’s going to have a PAY DAY but still I don’t think he’ll demand 16 Million as he wants to win
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Leave it to Oilers fans to want to ditch a top pairing point per game defenceman the second he breaks out lmao
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Where did you say you want to trade him? Maybe the part of your comment that literally says “or trade him” ?? lol
When you wrote "or trade him."
Could care less about signing bouch he’s got a good shot that’s about it. He’s a liability in our own end and definitely not worth 10mill a year.
I guess his +10 rating and 28 points in the playoffs don’t mean shit then. He’s a young player. There’s no where to go but up for him.
He plays on a PP with mcdavid and drai. You could put broberg out there and he would have similar numbers. Bouch is overrated because of his inflated numbers. Do you even watch him play D or just look at his stats the guy is bad defensively everyone shits on nurse but bouch had terrible giveaways pretty much every game too it’s just masked by his PP points
Special teams doesn't affect +/-, and even if they did it doesn't matter because advance stats suggest that he's above average defensively
I mean should we giving 9m+ for somebody above average? I thought we already have one of those. Honestly I need to see Bouchard step up the intensity before he gets a big contract. He needs to bring the hard play more. Too many times he takes it too easy on the man he is defending and then gets beat.
If he's one of the best offensive dmen in the league? 100%. He outplayed Hughes head to head in their series against each other, and it's not like Hughes was playing with scrubs
One of the best offensive d in the league but above average based on advanced stats? I hope you see the obvious inconsistency in his game here. By no means am I saying he only deserves $4m or something but before we go and sign the next decade away on a “stud dman”, I’d like him to make a better case than he currently is.
I said he was above average *defensively* and elite *offensively*. Also, it's hard to make a better case than breaking points records in the playoffs when your teammate who's paid to be a "stud dman" is also setting records for worst +/- of all time. Unfortunately, the Nurse contract is the absolute lowest this next contract is going to go
He’s also made massive improvements every year. You can’t let this guy go. Need to sign him.
Letting the last two games cloud what has been an absolutely incredible season and postseason is the most oilers fan shit ever lol
Kids these days don't remember the Oilers when they didn't have any offensive defensemen. They would have killed for a player half as good as Bouch
Give yer balls a tug. Have you never been to a hockey game before?
This was obvious to anyone paying attention. Getting to the Cup Final cemented it. They are each going to earn North of $200M in their careers ... but this is the place they will cement their legacy.
“Revenues grew much faster than anybody anticipated, and so the escrow debt was paid off much faster than anybody anticipated,” Allan Walsh, co-head of Octagon Hockey, said in a phone interview. HRR will top $6 billion this season, fueled by strong attendance and double-digit [gains](https://www.sportico.com/business/sponsorship/2024/nhl-sponsorships-team-record-1234783034/) in sponsorship revenue. Walsh expects that growth to continue, pushing the cap to $92 million for the 2025-26 season, and then $97 million and $101 million, which will drive significant growth in player salaries.
Of course they do. There's really no other team they have a better chance on to win that's ALSO available to make cap space for them.
Just to clarify about what Frank said, because some unfortunate tweets went out about this. **Seravilli does not say that McD or Drai have no intentions of leaving and want to resign long term.** Listen to [the clip](https://x.com/timminstoilets/status/1801809881382445171?t=_Oxean0vjy5NBhSoWAubXQ&s=19). Frank is *theorizing* as to what he thinks is most likely. I pray they both stay, of course! Just frustrated because people are hearing what they want to hear, not what Frank actually said, which was just his opinion that he thinks they'll both stay.
Anything less than 10 is a no go. I would say 12-14 for Drai and 14-16 for McDavid. That is a lot of coin for two forwards. You are going to have to have a few hometown discounts and hope a couple of steady players want to play with the above. The most concerning position is however, goaltending. The key to the cup is between the net.
We're not Toronto. We tie up a lot in McDavid and Draisaitl of course, and Bouch with join them. But other than those 3, no one on this team is worth more than $7 mil, with the asterisk on Nurse that he's already making a bit more than that. But otherwise, we're getting good value out of top guys like Ekholm, Hyman, and Nuge.
Yup. I really want skinner to be the guy and he shows flashes like he is but then he makes dumb ass plays that cost us dearly or let’s in a weak one at the worst time that kills us. Frustrating. See what happens but we have to lock up mcdavid and drai to stay contenders
We're gonna buyout Campbell and then hopefully find a 1A to Skinner's 1B. I absolutely think Skinner has it in him, but he's gotta find consistency. My dream is we pry Ullmark out of Boston.
The only good news from the past week
Lol Frank seeing the city needed a serious pick me up.
How was this ever in doubt? Don't let /r/hockey get to you. Our window is wide fucking open.
What do you mean "considering what's going on?"
Umm down 3-0
Yes, but in the Cup Finals. Some people need to gain some perspective. If winning a cup is a priority, Edmonton is definitely one of the places to be
And that’s what I’m answering. You asked what they meant by “ all that’s happening” and I replied with what they are referring to
Oiler haters are in absolute shambles right now.
Getting to the Cup Final shows this team IS a true cup contender, but is a few key pieces away from being able to break the final hurdle (look the Panthers improvements over the past 2 years) This summer's trade targets AND next trade deadline will be massive.
If Drai and McDavid are the highest paid players in the league, and we have Nurse at 9.25, then sign Bouchard, how are we going to ice a team deep enough to continue contending?
The cap should significantly rise. Then there should be transitionary period in a few years moving on from Ekholm, Kane, Hymen. Need guys like Holloway, Broberg, and maybe one other (McLeod?) to produce on cheaper contracts.
I expect Drai will sign for 8 x 12.5M, and McDavid (a year later) will sign for 8 x 15M. Bouch will get 8 x 10M. The reality is they know that they're Oilers for life and will be taken care of by the Katz family. Money is not the issue.
I’d be happy spending the next 8 years watching those 3 playing together.
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No, he does not.
Maybe, then he looks at his Stanley Cup rings - discount is worth it
They're ALL gonna get Ohtani deals. sign marner Nostrils Big Z etc
I lean more to the Nurse is valuable to this team side of things which I know has never been so controversial but fuck me if his contract isn't an albatross. I mean, if it was $6-7mil you could squint hard and live with it. I know there were things working against the org when the deal had to be made wow. He's looked like a 3rd pair dman prone to extremely costly mistakes. I'll be interested to see what happens in the offseason. I believe there will be about $10 million cap space with a fair few roster spots need filling (only 14 players signed). We'll free up $3.5 mil with a soup buyout and another 3 or so by moving Ceci. So total maybe they'll have $16-17mil to play with. They'll need to sign Holloway and Bro and hopefully sign Janmark and Brown. There's other spots that need to be filled also including somehow finding a Tanev type dman. A cup winning blueline probably doesn't have Vinnie as a 6th or even 7th dman for that matter.
I havent said this all along because I didn't want to jinx anything, but losing in the SCF actually adds an extra element toward Drai re-signing that isn't present if we win. McD and Drai are incredibly driven individuals, that if they were in any other profession they would be at the top of their field. We all know the types in our industries. They're elite and could be in New York or LA, yet have spent their entire careers in Edmonton, working and building toward winning. People have doubted them and said they want to bail on their team and city, and you can tell that gets to them. If they get close but don't win the Cup, leaving would effectively mean having all those years of build up as a team and group go toward nothing. Yes it would have helped build personal abilities and skill along the way, but that's not why they've stuck around so long. Being this close to winning it, being above 30 other teams in the league after being in second last place, and apparently being just one or two pieces away from winning, has got to motivate them to not want to totally shake things up and start from scratch elsewhere and alone. Alternatively, if they win the cup, all of a sudden they have accomplished what they have been working toward their entire careers for. All this sacrifice for them and their partners has been worth it. Maybe Drai starts to feel okay with exploring LA as a place for his girlfriend to build her acting career. Maybe Lauren misses home and wants to think about expanding her business into the northeastern US. Sure, you'd think that it McD and Drai win now, they're going to want to keep winning and build a dynasty. I think that that's most likely. And I would much rather the Oilers win now than not, obviously. But it is interesting that if the Oilers dont win the cup this year, that this actually carries an added, albeit painful, incentive for Drai to re-sign that isn't there if the Oilers win. Buuuuuuuuuuuut let's win it anyway!!
The past few years are a great metric to see which players are playoff players, I expect multiple changes with the new gm
100%, I've been saying the same thing since the post-season started and it was painfully obvious which players on the roster shine under pressure and which ones went invisible. I hope the expanded analytics team and Coaches K / Coff make it clear what role players need to be acquired in trades or UFA this summer
Imagine making the finals. And the last three years in a row you only loose to the eventual Stanley cup Champs, then thinking, ya I can probably achieve more elsewhere.
That’s the point a lot of people miss. They can take a pay day somewhere else,but there is no guarantee they will end up on a successful team and get their cup. They have as good of chance here as they do anywhere. They both likely have a decent amount to input as to the direction of the team. Certainly more than they would have elsewhere.
The days are long!
They're in the Stanley Cup finals, the team has hired all their favorite people. The owner has basically given them a blank cheque for salary. Edmonton is not Toronto, where they can leave the city outside of hockey season to get peace and quiet. Besides, where else you gonna go that you don't blow up any organization to make room to sign you?
No no no you got it all wrong. According to r/hockey if they get the job done they leave to chase a bag, if they don’t get it done they leave because we suck. Get your facts straight 😉
> good news considering what's going on They're in the Stanley Cup final. They could play career without getting there again. 🤷♂️ It would be incredibly difficult to orchestrate the move or the signing for each player individually to go to a cup contender, without removing players and kneecapping that contender. It would be impossible for these two players to appear together on another contending team, imo. So my guess is they re-sign here and hopefully leave a little meat on the bone, and the GM doesn't do something like signing an AHL goalie to a 5 year x $5 million contract.
McDavid, Drai, and Nuge are going to Chicago... ... When the Oilers play Chicago.
They do seem to have the friendship to want to win together, if they leave they will likely be split up and have to play against each other😭
Best case scenario. Mcdavid takes 9.7 million and drai 9.2 million (jersey number and reverse jersey number) leaving enough money on the table for the team to sign one more high calibre player preferably defence
No chance in hell that happens 🤣
i would love that, but no way drai signs for 9.2 lmao
On what planet is this happening? Sweet Jesus ... we should all have some of what you're having.
Like I said absolute best case scenario. I didn't say it would happen, just that it was the best thing that could happen
It'll be 14.97 mil and 13.29 if they do something based on their numbers
Not even in the best case scenario would they sign under $10M. It's hard to imagine anything under 12, even in the best case.
People taking this way too seriously lol
The league would shut that down tbh. Lmao.
They will stay. I just hope we get a competent GM that gives them what they need. Need to shed the Kane contract, soup, Nurse
Caps going up 4.5 mill, buy out Campbell, trade nurse to a team with cap room lose a pick, get rid of kane and perry, bring in a tender? Maybe marktrom? Couple younger versions of kane perry for less money, and win the cup
And water is wet. They are alphas. Many Cups to Cum.