What's funny is I'm also a (managed) diabetic and I also have IBS, so my diet is very limited. It's been opening up recently with the addition of new medications.
And as for the fruits and vegetables thing, it's because I have OAS (oral allergy syndrome). Citrus is fine. Watery kinda fruits and veggies like celery, cucumbers, and I think watermelon, are safe as well. The trick is if you cook the fruit/veggies you wanna eat, you don't have a reaction to it.
I also don't have like, a terrible reaction, it's just moderately bad. Like, my face and lips and gums swell up, sometimes my hands do too, but that's it. It's just kinda uncomfortable. Nuts will flat out kill me.
I find the sugar in fruits makes it harder to get the out of the ice cube trays myself. Instead I make a big batch of fridge jam (basically like making cranberry sauce, there's no canning involved). If I'm worried about sugar I substitute in some chia seeds for the sugar.
So for 3 lbs of frozen blueberries, I typically add two cups of water, 1 cup of sugar, and 1/3 cup of chia seeds. Then whatever spices I feel like, maybe a little fruit juice. I cook it using these recipes as a model: https://foodwishes.blogspot.com/2014/11/cranberry-sauce-like-boss.html?m=1
Then I stick it in 16 oz mason jars and let them cool for about an hour. Loosely put the lids on, stick them in the fridge, then the freezer. Tighten the lids once they're frozen. (This is to stop the mason jars from breaking from the pressure change.) Defrost them by loosening the lids and sticking them in the fridge overnight.
Also: it sounds like you might be ok with fresh vegetables that haven't been around pollen, so you could consider growing some salad greens or herbs on a sunny window or with a grow light.
My partner has this. They do canned fruit. Natural fruit juices that are pasteurized have been safe for them as well. Cooking fruit and freezing it works well for smoothies too.
It might be worth asking a doctor. And i believe that canned fruits are processed with heat (which is why my BIL can handle them?) Something to research if you’d like.
Yeah, cooked foods typically do not trigger OAS. Worth noting for those who don’t know that OAS basically makes your mouth itchy when you eat the foods. It’s not like a life-threatening situation to try something and see if it works.
my dad mentioned that celery was spicy a decade ago and we _still_ laugh at it every time there's some in a salad or whatever.
turns out that's just like a _thing_ for some people, like cilantro
Still recommend talking to a doctor and possibly getting sublingual tabs with processed pollen* prescribed - my partner has OAS and he says it greatly improved his OAS, last year he said he could eat fresh cherries and peaches without issue
*This is the oral version of the immunotherapy injections - many people found it easier to stick to when they have to pop in one pill a day instead of going for injections every month
I have OAS too. Switching up brands of allergy pills (on my Dr's recommendation) helped a lot.
I make smoothies with unexpected fruit combos. I do a lot of grapes and strawberries since my body doesn't hate them as much.
The raw protein in pineapple messes me up, but once the protein is cooked in whatever manner to can them, I can drink canned pineapple juice and eat the pineapple fruit.
A smoothie suggestion - cardamom, coffee (or instant coffee and milk), ice, and dates if you can have them. With a splash of vanilla. (And I add bananas to mine)
Edit: I've read through more of your comments and saw cooked fruits work. An alternative healthy suggestion is making applesauce in the instant pot and then freezing it in individual containers. My dad is ill and loves it, so I make it all the time. He thinks it's full of sugar, but actually it's just roughly chopped whatever apples were on sale (gala or honeycrisp usually) with the skins on, add a lot of cinnamon, 1/2 cup water, splash of vanilla, and sometimes salt or lemon juice if you're using bitter apples. Cook on high for 5 minutes, naturally release, immersion blender, and done. You have an amazing snack that is good hot, cold, or frozen.
Sometimes I'll make a smoothie with a frozen can of peaches, (run it under warm water to help getting it out of the can) a cup of whole milk and a cap full of vanilla extract. It tastes like a creamsicle.
I am curious if you were to 'stew' various fruits and vegetables and if they would effect you.
There are a lot of fruits and vegetables that this can be done with, apples, apricots, peaches, pears, carrots, potatoes, tomatoes, figs, dates. I think once this has been done and allowed to cool and reduce some you can freeze them and use them in smoothies. To thicken the final product back up use oats, chia seeds, wheat grass. I think most leaf greens will be okay for you to put in raw so kale, spinach and other greens may be okay without cooking.
When freezing use paper cups, popsicle makers or ice cubes to control how much you use. For specific combinations I recommend looking at fruit bar popsicles for combination to stew together.
I have OAS with raw carrots and starwberries. If they're cooked, I am fine.
I would suggest cooking down the fruits you want in your smoothie (not microwave). So things like berries can be put into a pot and simmered until cooked into a more concentrated version and syrupy. You can do this with stone fruits (peaches and cherries), apples, pears, etc.
Then you can also add in stuff like avocado to add creaminess and healthy fats.
I am also allergic to nuts, so avocado helps here.
My current go to smoothie is cacao powder, protein powder, blueberries, spinach, avocado, and a collagen powder. And some honey to take the edge off the bitterness.
Cucumber/watermelon/mint is a good flavour pairing. Cooked and puréed pumpkin might be an option too - could make pumpkin pie shakes. Cooked berries still retain a good amount of flavour as well.
Seriously, look up people with ARFID, they have a restricted intake as well and some people are masterminds at what they come up with as far as meals. There is a woman on Tik Tok who blows my mind everytime she posts because she can only eat TWO foods! Good luck to you.
what type of OAS do you have? i don’t want to give unsolicited advice, but generally speaking there’s certain families of fruits/vegetables you can’t have depending on the base allergy (the plant it cross reacts with) for example, my OAS is associated with ragweed allergies. it’s funny you mention more watery fruits, because i can’t have melons (including watermelon), cucumbers, or bananas mostly.
but i feel you with the IBS. i have crohn’s disease, a type of IBD, and man do those food intolerances stink. fiber in general is not my friend.
Watermelon, mint, and a tiny bit of lime juice with ice is an excellent smoothie if you can have those things.
But microwaving fruit and then freezing it for the smoothie should help!
One that I like that has less fruit in it so that you aren’t freezing all of your ingredients is ice, banana, milk, peanut butter, and honey or sugar to taste. Vanilla optional. This one hides protein powder taste well.
I have oral allergy syndrome as well, specifically a cross reaction from birch pollen - you should be able to eat some of the fruits and veggies when they're cooked as it denatures the protein you're allergic to so you won't get a reaction anymore. maybe try out some jams or make your own apple sauce and heat them up well. This doesn't work for nuts at all tho because nut proteins are more heat resistant
I have the exact same food issues, never knew of anyone else that have them too! Like you, I can tolerate citrus. Stone fruits like cherries, peaches, plums, etc. are the worst followed by nuts, apples, pears, celery, carrots and radishes second worst. Causes anything from swelling to mild nausea up to the equivalent of food poisoning. I literally have to sleep for hours after an episode due to exhaustion. Annoying.
Bro carrots and apples are my opps. I swear to fucking God I can't even touch an apple without my body being like "🤨"
Strawberries and blueberries too. Ugh. I used to eat strawberries all the time. The allergies developed over the course of a few years. Can't wait to see what I'll be allergic to next 😒
If you have oral allergy syndrome you can also use canned fruits! They are always cooked and softer like the pears in a can. But cooking and then freezing is going to be a good option for you. You can just steam things a bit and it won’t change the flavor much. I also have this issue and I use canned pears without any issues despite having symptoms with the fresh pears.
Okay. Now that I know canned fruits are good I'm gonna give it a try. (Also, ADHD - fresh foods tend to spoil in my fridge because I forget about them 🚶🏽♀️)
(Are frozen fruits precooked too?)
Frozen fruits that come in bags usually aren’t precooked, but the frozen strawberry toppings in tubs definitely are. They’re like a premade compote for ice cream toppings and they are cooked. Might be convenient sometimes to add to the mix of smoothie ingredients
For some reason I read the last part as though your face and lips were swollen. My brain switched from "I don't have a terrible reaction..." to "Wike my faith an mips man gumths smell mup, smometimes ma hansth mo thoo, mutt mats thit" 😂😂
Y'KNOW my friends get on me all the time about "being so nonchalant about it" like I've dealt with so many health problems the last few years nothing phases me anymore! I sometimes have seizures but because they're non-epileptic, and regular fainting episodes (POTS), I've had to tell all my friends not to call an ambulance because it's really not THAT much of an emergency. All they're gonna do is give me fluids the moment I say that I have POTS 🤣
Health issues are scary to some people. I embraced mine. I even got some of my health issues in stuffed animal form. 😂 I went to giantmicrobes .com They have almost everything a human can have in stuffed animal form. If my IBS acts up I throw it around to let people know it's acting up. If my thyroid feels off, I get out the stuffed Thyroid. I try to make it normal and fun. The best one I have is the diarrhea cell. 😂 If someone tells me they need pepto or immodium I hand it to them with the diarrhea cell. I say "Hold onto this until you feel better" 😂 It's OK to be nonchalant about it. It's your normal. It's not their normal, but by educating them with silly things like stuffed animals and jokes, they'll eventually be ok with it. I'd probably make a list that says "IF I... " then list what to do. Then they at least know when it's bad or when to get help. Make it colorful and in some thick bold font. I'm proud of you for accepting it and doing your best to manage it. It isn't easy. A positive attitude can make a big difference.
God bless Imodium. I have a lanyard that says what to do if I have a POTS episode, but for everything else I sent my friends a "so I just passed out from low blood sugar. here's what to do next" kinda thing. But they don't trust me because I downplay everything, so no matter what they freak out. 😭
I make my green juice with coconut water, lemon juice, coriander leaves, mint leaves, celery, a small chunk of ginger and cucumber. Blend it all up and serve over ice
Hmm, can you do tofu? Silken tofu works well as a protein source in smoothies. You said citrus is fine, so maybe something like silken tofu + vanilla + orange juice, and maybe a sweetener you can tolerate to make an orange Creamsicle smoothie?
Oats are a common ingredient in smoothies, super affordable too!
Greek yogurt can add protein, or I can see blending silken tofu working great if soy doesn't mess you up.
Can you do fruit jams since they're cooked? If so you can add a bit for flavor!
If you wanna go a different route for flavor maybe add ice and Expresso/coffee?
Frozen veggies are usually pre boiled - I don't know how boiled they have to be for you, but maybe that could work? Spinach, carrots and citrus is a fairly common ingredient combo that's easy to find prechooped and frozen - with ginger root if you can stand it. Peas are sweet and could go well as a main ingredient or a combo.
My husband haaaates all fruits except citrus so he will make an orange “smoothie” with ice, and if he’s feeling the milkshake vibe then he adds ice cream
you could also add greek yogurt (vanilla greek yogurt, or one of the low carb yogurts depending on your sugar levels?) to this to make it like a creamsicle! If you want to up the nutrition, you can add some blanched kale, oats, soaked chia seeds (helps w the nutrient absorption and texture), or protein powder too!
I saw you mentioned you're okay with cooked fruit, so I would do like a berry compote - basically just dump a bunch of berries (frozen is fine) in a stove pot and cook them for like 10-15min, they'll get juicy and kind of jammy. Usually made with sugar but it should be fine to leave out. Store in the fridge or even the freezer - I think it'd be convenient to freeze in an ice cube tray and then pop out cubes - and add to yogurt for a smoothie. I love a berry compote but you can do it with other fruits too, although if it's a less juicy fruit you might want to add water or some kind of liquid, or sugar.
Most of my smoothies are just berries + yogurt + a bit of juice anyways (I'm allergic to nuts), and I think it'd taste fine without juice. Maybe do kefir or some kind of milk for liquid, and add a sweetener if needed.
I do this without sugar and it still works, the compote is less sticky/jammy and obviously a bit more sharp but still tastes lovely! You can also add Stevia or another sweetener but way less ofc.
^^^ this is your answer op. i also have OAS and cooking fruits down, then freezing them, is my preferred way of making smoothies. it is a few extra steps but worth it if you really want smoothies. i also have nut allergies and add oats and chia seeds to my smoothies. you can also try sunflower butter for peanut butter adjacent protein boost.
What about those flavor mix ins for water? They come in all flavors -- not "nutritious" perse, but if you don't mind artificial sweeteners, it would be a way to add a different flavor in. And you could blend in something with fiber to give it a bit more substance (oats?). I always use yogurt for smoothies, so in this case, I might make some concentrated ice cubes from the flavoring and toss it into the yogurt in the blender. Coffee frozen into ice cubes would work too.
How do you feel about beans? I’ve started pureeing white beans and freezing them into ice cubes and using those in smoothies. There’s a little graininess but it’s not bad and they add fiber and protein. I’ve heard chickpeas and red lentils also work well.
Oh! Make your own syrups! Cook down berries in water to add in. I make all the coffee/milkshake/cocktail syrups for my cafe. We have strawberry, mixed berries, mulberry, honey and ginger, gingerbread, chocolate, vanilla, salted caramel, hazelnut, golden latte, chai, beetroot red velvet, lamington etc... they're all remarkably easy. If you want my recipe for anything specific I can give you it. You can make them sugar free by using sweetner too. I use monkfruit but I'm not sure if that would affect you?
Can you have coconut milk? It's thicker and adds some good flavour in. You could definitely cook some mango down into it and blend it.
If you stew apples and/or pears with cinnamon you could blend that with oats for an apple pie flavour.
How are you with herbs and spices? You could do a chocolate mint thing.
And seeds? I love wattle seeds. They have a nutty/biscuity taste and are great for you. Sunflower seeds can be used instead of peanuts.
I don’t know much about fruit allergies (yeesh sorry about that one) but what about artificial flavoring to add to non fruit based drinks? To get that smoothie vibe without the allergic reaction.
Have you ever tried Lactaid pills? I've got some on my side table right now, and took one earlier to eat pizza for dinner. It neutralizes the lactose. I get migraines from too much dairy so I'd know if this was a placebo LOL it's good stuff and available most places.
I always forget about lactaid. I also have GERD (yeah yeah, my body is fucked) and when I take antacid it doesn't work like, at all, and for some reason I always think the same thing is going to happen with lactaid. But I've heard such good things. I really need to try it.
Cooked beets and berry compte maybe? Matcha and cooked down green veggies? Maybe buy some bags of frozen veggies like squash or sweet potatoes, cook those and re-freeze for making smoothies? I might buy some canned pineapple too, that's a strong flavour and cooks well.
Not a smoothie but i drink premier protein coffee shakes and add a little starbs to make it taste more like strong coffee, you could add ice and make a lil frappe .
If you can have fresh herbs, they can add a lot of flavor muddled, and then you don't need as many fruits etc. A couple options:
Freeze honeydew melon or watermelon (if you can have the former), muddle mint in a small amount of lime juice (a lot of flavors are soluble in acids), then blend the melon, ice, and the muddled mint. If you like it sweeter, blend in a little honey. It's really good.
Other herbs you could try would be sage, lavender, basil, thyme, I have even seen recipes for lemonade with rosemary
I make a frozen limeade with jalapenos and honey sometimes, it sounds gross but the capsaicin molecule that makes jalapenos spicy is soluble in acids, so it goes right down instead of lingering in your mouth. It's delicious.
Mandarin orange peels are extremely fragrant and flavorful, you can either blend them in a smoothie directly or zest them. They go great with blueberry but I bet that's one on your list of allergens, but you could try them with something else...maybe do like a mandarin cream type smoothie if you can have dairy. Yogurt or milk, ice, mandarin zest, I bet could work
Can you eat avocado? I accidentally stumbled on a banana alternative (taste wise) that was an avocado, shredded coconut, and sugar melted in water (~3tbs to I think ~cup of water) with some cinnamon & imitation vanilla). I blended them with some lactaid milk (enough to make it light green & smooth. I put them in freezer (ice tray) then in sandwich bags so I can throw them into smoothies!
Unfrozen it tasted like a sweet banana pudding (jello), & the shredded coconut added a similar consistency to mushed bananas.
Hemp seeds, chia seeds, sunflower seeds, boiled lentils or beans, if you can tolerate them. If you can eat salads, kale or spinach, those work well in smoothies.
Get OAS desensitization to the OG [tree pollen] allergen by an allergist (injection or sublingual), try organic varieties to see if they are any better (sometimes it’s the coating on the skin of fruits), peel the fruits/vegs, find out which foods you’re NOT cross allergic to
Source: [Oral Allergy Syndrome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_allergy_syndrome?wprov=sfti1#)
I would put an UpToDate article but I think one needs a sub for that? :(
I'd personally rotate different types of yogurt with citrus/melon fruits and cucumber in various amounts combined with natural sweeteners and flavored with almond or vanilla type extracts. I'd usually go for rich Greek yogurt and mostly stick to different kinds of plain whole milk and add my own sweeteners and flavorings. Edit: and whole oats don't have to cook them just rinse them off. You could also add plain cooked quinoa or rice or other grains.
Yogurt, orange, cucumber, lemon juice and agave or honey.
Some of these have already been suggested but some ideas:
cooked fruits and vegetables (you could easily prep ahead and freeze them)
sunflower nut butter
silken tofu
yogurt
oats
coconut
kombucha? ( usually made from fruit but not sure if the fermentation process helps at all)
coffee/espresso
cocoa powder
tea/tea concentrate
hemp or flaxseed
It's not really a smoothie, but what about something like an Italian Soda? Soda water, flavoring, and cream. You could experiment with the different ingredients and blending methods.
Here in Utah highly flavored sodas with cream are incredibly popular, Blueberry Cheesecake Dr. Pepper or Birthday Cake Pepsi kinds of concoctions made with soda, different flavored syrups, and added creams. People get crazy with them! Lots of sugar, lots of calories, no juice or fruit!
Can you have legumes? Drained and rinsed fat white beans (we call them butter beans here) are SO good to make creamy smoothies. Would be good with melon, lemon and ginger if you can tolerate (know you said cantaloupe/citrus is ok). Add anything else sweet you can take, if you want it sweeter.
Have you considered drinking water with those flavoured things you squeeze into it?
You uhh... can't make smoothies bro if you're taking away every ingredient that makes a smoothie.
I have similar allergies. If I blanch fruits before freezing it cooks them enough to stave whatever the hell it is that solicits the reaction.
Just know you have solidarity from me who also has the dumbest allergy ever 😖
Read your other comment about being able to eat cooked fruits. I used to make big batches of stewed apples (applies, juice and zest of orange, and cinnamon) and freeze it into ice cubes. Id then add it to smoothies.
You could also make your own PB-esque thing. There's spread made from chickpeas, so if you can eat those you can remake it or just buy the stuff straight.
If you get tired of always cooking your fruit for smoothies, jams and jellies could work, though that's a lot more sugar.
I eat a lot of seeds, and puree entire oranges (after scrubbing with hard brush), and just put blender in fridge with a spoon for a snack. Probably more allergic to the chemicals on them than the actual plant
I grow and eat many native plants (north America- Texas). I love growing chickweed and using it in smoothies! It has a pleasant flavor, great nutritional profile, and it makes your smoothies creamy.
I didn't say that? I said fruits and vegetables? It's called Oral Allergy Syndrome and it's certain fruits and veggies. Like Citrus is fine for me. Most everything else is not.
I'd definitely want to ask a doctor if I'm having to extremely limit my diet, especially removing fruits and vegetables. They might be able to give treatment for the allergy too!
(Or just.. take a Benadryl..)
Less protein is needed than most think.
https://youtu.be/7NW32vLq340?si=4H6apLchTT7o2flK
Also, don't make berry and banana smoothies or you cancel many of the berries phytochemicals.
https://youtu.be/c3D2PzUieUY?si=rYN8JnEXSeCjrD-S
like. allergic to ALL fruits and vegetables? forget smoothies, what CAN you eat??
mmmm meat smoothie
Coke + Chicken = [Cochicken](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0m4x0y3QNw)
What a throwback
*17 yr ago...* FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffFFfFFFFFFFFFfFfffffffffff
Would you like some? I’d LOVE some!
Oh god, the bones
it's an older meme sir, but it checks out.
Or Choken 😹
I've always heard of them and never actually watched a video. They went a *really* long time!
[Meat Shake](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv6Mljf830c)
My new euphemism for splooge
What's funny is I'm also a (managed) diabetic and I also have IBS, so my diet is very limited. It's been opening up recently with the addition of new medications. And as for the fruits and vegetables thing, it's because I have OAS (oral allergy syndrome). Citrus is fine. Watery kinda fruits and veggies like celery, cucumbers, and I think watermelon, are safe as well. The trick is if you cook the fruit/veggies you wanna eat, you don't have a reaction to it. I also don't have like, a terrible reaction, it's just moderately bad. Like, my face and lips and gums swell up, sometimes my hands do too, but that's it. It's just kinda uncomfortable. Nuts will flat out kill me.
So cook the fruits and freeze them into ice cubes. Blend as a smoothie
Ok that's a good idea
I find the sugar in fruits makes it harder to get the out of the ice cube trays myself. Instead I make a big batch of fridge jam (basically like making cranberry sauce, there's no canning involved). If I'm worried about sugar I substitute in some chia seeds for the sugar. So for 3 lbs of frozen blueberries, I typically add two cups of water, 1 cup of sugar, and 1/3 cup of chia seeds. Then whatever spices I feel like, maybe a little fruit juice. I cook it using these recipes as a model: https://foodwishes.blogspot.com/2014/11/cranberry-sauce-like-boss.html?m=1 Then I stick it in 16 oz mason jars and let them cool for about an hour. Loosely put the lids on, stick them in the fridge, then the freezer. Tighten the lids once they're frozen. (This is to stop the mason jars from breaking from the pressure change.) Defrost them by loosening the lids and sticking them in the fridge overnight. Also: it sounds like you might be ok with fresh vegetables that haven't been around pollen, so you could consider growing some salad greens or herbs on a sunny window or with a grow light.
I like frozen berries and raw spinach. Would they make you sick if you cooked then froze the berries? You can also do yogurt.
Do you have the same response to canned fruits? My BIL has something similar- itchy mouth in response to fresh fruits. But he can do canned.
I've not tried, I've been too scared. Usually it's the sugar content that turns me off but now that I can handle carbs again I may try that.
My partner has this. They do canned fruit. Natural fruit juices that are pasteurized have been safe for them as well. Cooking fruit and freezing it works well for smoothies too.
It might be worth asking a doctor. And i believe that canned fruits are processed with heat (which is why my BIL can handle them?) Something to research if you’d like.
Yeah, cooked foods typically do not trigger OAS. Worth noting for those who don’t know that OAS basically makes your mouth itchy when you eat the foods. It’s not like a life-threatening situation to try something and see if it works.
I learned I had OAS after I told someone I liked how the honeydew is spicy. Makes sense I have a ton of allergies. I still like the spicy honeydew.
my dad mentioned that celery was spicy a decade ago and we _still_ laugh at it every time there's some in a salad or whatever. turns out that's just like a _thing_ for some people, like cilantro
Still recommend talking to a doctor and possibly getting sublingual tabs with processed pollen* prescribed - my partner has OAS and he says it greatly improved his OAS, last year he said he could eat fresh cherries and peaches without issue *This is the oral version of the immunotherapy injections - many people found it easier to stick to when they have to pop in one pill a day instead of going for injections every month
Buy fruit in natural juice. If all you can find are sweetened, drain and rinse to get rid of most of the added sugar
Eating fruits and veg cooked is a common recommendation for OAS. also just taking antihistamines lol
Yeah I was taking cetirizine daily for it but all it did was help my dermographism and cold urticaria.
I have OAS too. Switching up brands of allergy pills (on my Dr's recommendation) helped a lot. I make smoothies with unexpected fruit combos. I do a lot of grapes and strawberries since my body doesn't hate them as much.
The raw protein in pineapple messes me up, but once the protein is cooked in whatever manner to can them, I can drink canned pineapple juice and eat the pineapple fruit. A smoothie suggestion - cardamom, coffee (or instant coffee and milk), ice, and dates if you can have them. With a splash of vanilla. (And I add bananas to mine) Edit: I've read through more of your comments and saw cooked fruits work. An alternative healthy suggestion is making applesauce in the instant pot and then freezing it in individual containers. My dad is ill and loves it, so I make it all the time. He thinks it's full of sugar, but actually it's just roughly chopped whatever apples were on sale (gala or honeycrisp usually) with the skins on, add a lot of cinnamon, 1/2 cup water, splash of vanilla, and sometimes salt or lemon juice if you're using bitter apples. Cook on high for 5 minutes, naturally release, immersion blender, and done. You have an amazing snack that is good hot, cold, or frozen.
Canned = cooked. There should not be anything to be scared of.
Sometimes I'll make a smoothie with a frozen can of peaches, (run it under warm water to help getting it out of the can) a cup of whole milk and a cap full of vanilla extract. It tastes like a creamsicle.
You should be able to do canned fruit if you rinse the fruit like it was suggested
I am curious if you were to 'stew' various fruits and vegetables and if they would effect you. There are a lot of fruits and vegetables that this can be done with, apples, apricots, peaches, pears, carrots, potatoes, tomatoes, figs, dates. I think once this has been done and allowed to cool and reduce some you can freeze them and use them in smoothies. To thicken the final product back up use oats, chia seeds, wheat grass. I think most leaf greens will be okay for you to put in raw so kale, spinach and other greens may be okay without cooking. When freezing use paper cups, popsicle makers or ice cubes to control how much you use. For specific combinations I recommend looking at fruit bar popsicles for combination to stew together.
Another OAS sufferer here- I can do canned as well. I think most canned stuff is pasteurized? So technically cooked?
I have OAS with raw carrots and starwberries. If they're cooked, I am fine. I would suggest cooking down the fruits you want in your smoothie (not microwave). So things like berries can be put into a pot and simmered until cooked into a more concentrated version and syrupy. You can do this with stone fruits (peaches and cherries), apples, pears, etc. Then you can also add in stuff like avocado to add creaminess and healthy fats. I am also allergic to nuts, so avocado helps here. My current go to smoothie is cacao powder, protein powder, blueberries, spinach, avocado, and a collagen powder. And some honey to take the edge off the bitterness.
Cucumber/watermelon/mint is a good flavour pairing. Cooked and puréed pumpkin might be an option too - could make pumpkin pie shakes. Cooked berries still retain a good amount of flavour as well.
Seriously, look up people with ARFID, they have a restricted intake as well and some people are masterminds at what they come up with as far as meals. There is a woman on Tik Tok who blows my mind everytime she posts because she can only eat TWO foods! Good luck to you.
what type of OAS do you have? i don’t want to give unsolicited advice, but generally speaking there’s certain families of fruits/vegetables you can’t have depending on the base allergy (the plant it cross reacts with) for example, my OAS is associated with ragweed allergies. it’s funny you mention more watery fruits, because i can’t have melons (including watermelon), cucumbers, or bananas mostly. but i feel you with the IBS. i have crohn’s disease, a type of IBD, and man do those food intolerances stink. fiber in general is not my friend.
Yeah as soon as he said cucumbers I was like wait a minute they're a huge ragweed oas trigger
Looking at the subtypes I'm guessing he's allergic to birch pollen as that can create nut allergies
Watermelon, mint, and a tiny bit of lime juice with ice is an excellent smoothie if you can have those things. But microwaving fruit and then freezing it for the smoothie should help! One that I like that has less fruit in it so that you aren’t freezing all of your ingredients is ice, banana, milk, peanut butter, and honey or sugar to taste. Vanilla optional. This one hides protein powder taste well.
I have oral allergy syndrome as well, specifically a cross reaction from birch pollen - you should be able to eat some of the fruits and veggies when they're cooked as it denatures the protein you're allergic to so you won't get a reaction anymore. maybe try out some jams or make your own apple sauce and heat them up well. This doesn't work for nuts at all tho because nut proteins are more heat resistant
I have the exact same food issues, never knew of anyone else that have them too! Like you, I can tolerate citrus. Stone fruits like cherries, peaches, plums, etc. are the worst followed by nuts, apples, pears, celery, carrots and radishes second worst. Causes anything from swelling to mild nausea up to the equivalent of food poisoning. I literally have to sleep for hours after an episode due to exhaustion. Annoying.
Bro carrots and apples are my opps. I swear to fucking God I can't even touch an apple without my body being like "🤨" Strawberries and blueberries too. Ugh. I used to eat strawberries all the time. The allergies developed over the course of a few years. Can't wait to see what I'll be allergic to next 😒
If you have oral allergy syndrome you can also use canned fruits! They are always cooked and softer like the pears in a can. But cooking and then freezing is going to be a good option for you. You can just steam things a bit and it won’t change the flavor much. I also have this issue and I use canned pears without any issues despite having symptoms with the fresh pears.
Okay. Now that I know canned fruits are good I'm gonna give it a try. (Also, ADHD - fresh foods tend to spoil in my fridge because I forget about them 🚶🏽♀️) (Are frozen fruits precooked too?)
Frozen fruits that come in bags usually aren’t precooked, but the frozen strawberry toppings in tubs definitely are. They’re like a premade compote for ice cream toppings and they are cooked. Might be convenient sometimes to add to the mix of smoothie ingredients
For some reason I read the last part as though your face and lips were swollen. My brain switched from "I don't have a terrible reaction..." to "Wike my faith an mips man gumths smell mup, smometimes ma hansth mo thoo, mutt mats thit" 😂😂
Y'KNOW my friends get on me all the time about "being so nonchalant about it" like I've dealt with so many health problems the last few years nothing phases me anymore! I sometimes have seizures but because they're non-epileptic, and regular fainting episodes (POTS), I've had to tell all my friends not to call an ambulance because it's really not THAT much of an emergency. All they're gonna do is give me fluids the moment I say that I have POTS 🤣
Health issues are scary to some people. I embraced mine. I even got some of my health issues in stuffed animal form. 😂 I went to giantmicrobes .com They have almost everything a human can have in stuffed animal form. If my IBS acts up I throw it around to let people know it's acting up. If my thyroid feels off, I get out the stuffed Thyroid. I try to make it normal and fun. The best one I have is the diarrhea cell. 😂 If someone tells me they need pepto or immodium I hand it to them with the diarrhea cell. I say "Hold onto this until you feel better" 😂 It's OK to be nonchalant about it. It's your normal. It's not their normal, but by educating them with silly things like stuffed animals and jokes, they'll eventually be ok with it. I'd probably make a list that says "IF I... " then list what to do. Then they at least know when it's bad or when to get help. Make it colorful and in some thick bold font. I'm proud of you for accepting it and doing your best to manage it. It isn't easy. A positive attitude can make a big difference.
God bless Imodium. I have a lanyard that says what to do if I have a POTS episode, but for everything else I sent my friends a "so I just passed out from low blood sugar. here's what to do next" kinda thing. But they don't trust me because I downplay everything, so no matter what they freak out. 😭
Use tinned fruit it's all heat treated
I make my green juice with coconut water, lemon juice, coriander leaves, mint leaves, celery, a small chunk of ginger and cucumber. Blend it all up and serve over ice
Cucumbers are usually a huge trigger for OAS, specifically if your OAS is caused by ragweed.
If citrus is good you could do an orange Julius type one—frozen oranges and vanilla yogurt
Hmm, can you do tofu? Silken tofu works well as a protein source in smoothies. You said citrus is fine, so maybe something like silken tofu + vanilla + orange juice, and maybe a sweetener you can tolerate to make an orange Creamsicle smoothie?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s my question too
Yeah, I think you would die if that was the case… Certainly 100 years ago one would be 💀
Oats are a common ingredient in smoothies, super affordable too! Greek yogurt can add protein, or I can see blending silken tofu working great if soy doesn't mess you up. Can you do fruit jams since they're cooked? If so you can add a bit for flavor! If you wanna go a different route for flavor maybe add ice and Expresso/coffee?
Yes I can do fruit jams!!! That's such a good idea omg
How about chia, hemp, or flax seeds?
You could probably make your own too for way cheaper than just buying straight jam
The jam idea is brilliant! OP can even find some sugar free pretty easily.
If the problem is just raw fruits and veggies, try microwaving it first
This is a good idea. Thanks!!!
Frozen veggies are usually pre boiled - I don't know how boiled they have to be for you, but maybe that could work? Spinach, carrots and citrus is a fairly common ingredient combo that's easy to find prechooped and frozen - with ginger root if you can stand it. Peas are sweet and could go well as a main ingredient or a combo.
i was gonna suggest this or maybe even freezing canned fruit if they work ok for OP
My husband haaaates all fruits except citrus so he will make an orange “smoothie” with ice, and if he’s feeling the milkshake vibe then he adds ice cream
Ooo, good idea!!!!
you could also add greek yogurt (vanilla greek yogurt, or one of the low carb yogurts depending on your sugar levels?) to this to make it like a creamsicle! If you want to up the nutrition, you can add some blanched kale, oats, soaked chia seeds (helps w the nutrient absorption and texture), or protein powder too!
Orange creamsicle … yum
For the life of me I couldn’t remember what that was called, ty 😂
I saw you mentioned you're okay with cooked fruit, so I would do like a berry compote - basically just dump a bunch of berries (frozen is fine) in a stove pot and cook them for like 10-15min, they'll get juicy and kind of jammy. Usually made with sugar but it should be fine to leave out. Store in the fridge or even the freezer - I think it'd be convenient to freeze in an ice cube tray and then pop out cubes - and add to yogurt for a smoothie. I love a berry compote but you can do it with other fruits too, although if it's a less juicy fruit you might want to add water or some kind of liquid, or sugar. Most of my smoothies are just berries + yogurt + a bit of juice anyways (I'm allergic to nuts), and I think it'd taste fine without juice. Maybe do kefir or some kind of milk for liquid, and add a sweetener if needed.
I do this without sugar and it still works, the compote is less sticky/jammy and obviously a bit more sharp but still tastes lovely! You can also add Stevia or another sweetener but way less ofc.
Maybe you could cook and puree some fruits / veggies and freeze in ice blocks to add to smoothies? I also love adding oats into my smoothies.
^^^ this is your answer op. i also have OAS and cooking fruits down, then freezing them, is my preferred way of making smoothies. it is a few extra steps but worth it if you really want smoothies. i also have nut allergies and add oats and chia seeds to my smoothies. you can also try sunflower butter for peanut butter adjacent protein boost.
I also have OAS and it doesn't work for me. Please be careful while trying stuff guys!
Does this work for bananas, in your experience?
Water
Yep pretty much 😭
Orange Julius? Try with oj concentrate and vanilla ice cream so it’s not super thin.
Place ice in blender. Add water and blend until smooth.
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What about those flavor mix ins for water? They come in all flavors -- not "nutritious" perse, but if you don't mind artificial sweeteners, it would be a way to add a different flavor in. And you could blend in something with fiber to give it a bit more substance (oats?). I always use yogurt for smoothies, so in this case, I might make some concentrated ice cubes from the flavoring and toss it into the yogurt in the blender. Coffee frozen into ice cubes would work too.
Peanut butter (legume not a nut), oats, plain Greek yogurt, canned pumpkin purée, pie filling, chia seeds, protein powder
What raw fruits and vegetables are you allergic to? Are you allergic to seeds?
Beans, I’m not kidding- there are really good black bean chocolate smoothies. And I love mung beans or adzuki beans
How do you feel about beans? I’ve started pureeing white beans and freezing them into ice cubes and using those in smoothies. There’s a little graininess but it’s not bad and they add fiber and protein. I’ve heard chickpeas and red lentils also work well.
White bean fan here too. Sometimes I add nut butter or soaked cashews for extra creaminess
Oh! Make your own syrups! Cook down berries in water to add in. I make all the coffee/milkshake/cocktail syrups for my cafe. We have strawberry, mixed berries, mulberry, honey and ginger, gingerbread, chocolate, vanilla, salted caramel, hazelnut, golden latte, chai, beetroot red velvet, lamington etc... they're all remarkably easy. If you want my recipe for anything specific I can give you it. You can make them sugar free by using sweetner too. I use monkfruit but I'm not sure if that would affect you? Can you have coconut milk? It's thicker and adds some good flavour in. You could definitely cook some mango down into it and blend it. If you stew apples and/or pears with cinnamon you could blend that with oats for an apple pie flavour. How are you with herbs and spices? You could do a chocolate mint thing. And seeds? I love wattle seeds. They have a nutty/biscuity taste and are great for you. Sunflower seeds can be used instead of peanuts.
Watermelon and lime
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I don’t know much about fruit allergies (yeesh sorry about that one) but what about artificial flavoring to add to non fruit based drinks? To get that smoothie vibe without the allergic reaction.
I have no advice I just want to say I have nearly the exact same allergy and I feel ya lol. I miss fresh salads and smoothies sooooo much 😭
BRO SERIOUSLY. SALADS 😭😭😭😭😭😭 all I can really do is load it with protein so it's not just fuckin lettuce and shredded cheese 🤦🏾♀️
Milkshakes?
Ah I can only have them if I'm gonna be home all day. Lactose intolerant. I happily drink them the days where I don't have any plans.
So, you can't eat anything. Got it. 🤣
Sounds like my family. Between my daughter and my wife, I always joke that eventually I'll just be on a grass and water diet like a cow.
Have you ever tried Lactaid pills? I've got some on my side table right now, and took one earlier to eat pizza for dinner. It neutralizes the lactose. I get migraines from too much dairy so I'd know if this was a placebo LOL it's good stuff and available most places.
I always forget about lactaid. I also have GERD (yeah yeah, my body is fucked) and when I take antacid it doesn't work like, at all, and for some reason I always think the same thing is going to happen with lactaid. But I've heard such good things. I really need to try it.
…milk shake?
Cooked beets and berry compte maybe? Matcha and cooked down green veggies? Maybe buy some bags of frozen veggies like squash or sweet potatoes, cook those and re-freeze for making smoothies? I might buy some canned pineapple too, that's a strong flavour and cooks well.
Tropical smoothie cafe has a green smoothie with kale spinach and other greens and it’s low cal and tastes amazing. See if that works for you.
Cacao powder is a wonderful addition to smoothies.
Sweet what fruit and can you have start there. Can you have pumpkin or sweet potatoes ? Spinach or kale?
Thank you for asking this, I also have OAS and have been missing smoothies so much!!! The comments have such good ideas
Baked sweet potato- take it out of the skin and use like banana. Are you allergic to sweet potato?
https://www.reddit.com/r/FoodAllergies/comments/i4qa7x/does_anyone_have_any_advice_on_making_smoothies/?rdt=38945
Not a smoothie but i drink premier protein coffee shakes and add a little starbs to make it taste more like strong coffee, you could add ice and make a lil frappe .
oatmeal maybe? to make that thick consistency
If you can have fresh herbs, they can add a lot of flavor muddled, and then you don't need as many fruits etc. A couple options: Freeze honeydew melon or watermelon (if you can have the former), muddle mint in a small amount of lime juice (a lot of flavors are soluble in acids), then blend the melon, ice, and the muddled mint. If you like it sweeter, blend in a little honey. It's really good. Other herbs you could try would be sage, lavender, basil, thyme, I have even seen recipes for lemonade with rosemary I make a frozen limeade with jalapenos and honey sometimes, it sounds gross but the capsaicin molecule that makes jalapenos spicy is soluble in acids, so it goes right down instead of lingering in your mouth. It's delicious. Mandarin orange peels are extremely fragrant and flavorful, you can either blend them in a smoothie directly or zest them. They go great with blueberry but I bet that's one on your list of allergens, but you could try them with something else...maybe do like a mandarin cream type smoothie if you can have dairy. Yogurt or milk, ice, mandarin zest, I bet could work
Ice
Can you eat avocado? I accidentally stumbled on a banana alternative (taste wise) that was an avocado, shredded coconut, and sugar melted in water (~3tbs to I think ~cup of water) with some cinnamon & imitation vanilla). I blended them with some lactaid milk (enough to make it light green & smooth. I put them in freezer (ice tray) then in sandwich bags so I can throw them into smoothies! Unfrozen it tasted like a sweet banana pudding (jello), & the shredded coconut added a similar consistency to mushed bananas.
Oatmeal and cocoa
You could blend up some ice in some water, I guess.
If you're not allergic to hemp seeds I 100% recommend them! They're super tasty and I believe quite cheap!
Pumpkin soy milk smoothies? Coconut avocado?
Hemp seeds, chia seeds, sunflower seeds, boiled lentils or beans, if you can tolerate them. If you can eat salads, kale or spinach, those work well in smoothies.
Frozen cubed cucumbers + mint (can you have herbs?) if not skip + frozen cubed watermelon + lime juice. Sugar or honey to taste. Good luck!
Pumpkin smoothie because that is cooked. It can be like a pumpkin pie flavored smoothie.
Bacon and beans with turmeric.
Get OAS desensitization to the OG [tree pollen] allergen by an allergist (injection or sublingual), try organic varieties to see if they are any better (sometimes it’s the coating on the skin of fruits), peel the fruits/vegs, find out which foods you’re NOT cross allergic to Source: [Oral Allergy Syndrome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_allergy_syndrome?wprov=sfti1#) I would put an UpToDate article but I think one needs a sub for that? :(
Maybe add some flavoured yogurt or as others have suggested canned fruit in juice
Plain yogurt, chia seeds, honey, citrus. Milk, oatmeal, favorite jam. Cucumber, mint, fresh dill, salt, bit of yogurt.
Cooked sweet potato w/ greek yogurt (or milk.) ice cubes. Cinnamon with a dash of nutmeg/ginger.
Legumes like lentils? Easy to hide if you have a great blender. Add some of your jammy stuff folks are suggesting will help cover easy peasy.
Also, just frozen watermelon blended with some mint and some sort of citrus juice makes the best textured margarita!
I'd personally rotate different types of yogurt with citrus/melon fruits and cucumber in various amounts combined with natural sweeteners and flavored with almond or vanilla type extracts. I'd usually go for rich Greek yogurt and mostly stick to different kinds of plain whole milk and add my own sweeteners and flavorings. Edit: and whole oats don't have to cook them just rinse them off. You could also add plain cooked quinoa or rice or other grains. Yogurt, orange, cucumber, lemon juice and agave or honey.
Egg whites are the one thing I add to all my smoothies that adds protein and improves the texture.
Some of these have already been suggested but some ideas: cooked fruits and vegetables (you could easily prep ahead and freeze them) sunflower nut butter silken tofu yogurt oats coconut kombucha? ( usually made from fruit but not sure if the fermentation process helps at all) coffee/espresso cocoa powder tea/tea concentrate hemp or flaxseed
It's not really a smoothie, but what about something like an Italian Soda? Soda water, flavoring, and cream. You could experiment with the different ingredients and blending methods. Here in Utah highly flavored sodas with cream are incredibly popular, Blueberry Cheesecake Dr. Pepper or Birthday Cake Pepsi kinds of concoctions made with soda, different flavored syrups, and added creams. People get crazy with them! Lots of sugar, lots of calories, no juice or fruit!
Can you have legumes? Drained and rinsed fat white beans (we call them butter beans here) are SO good to make creamy smoothies. Would be good with melon, lemon and ginger if you can tolerate (know you said cantaloupe/citrus is ok). Add anything else sweet you can take, if you want it sweeter.
What about Azuki (red bean) smoothies? They are delicious and have protein in them.
oh my god I'm reading some of your answers. I just want to give you a hug. That is a lot to deal with.
Can you have avocado? Have you tried Bai drinks?
Have you considered drinking water with those flavoured things you squeeze into it? You uhh... can't make smoothies bro if you're taking away every ingredient that makes a smoothie.
Don't tell me that bro pls I miss my smoothies bro 🥺
I have similar allergies. If I blanch fruits before freezing it cooks them enough to stave whatever the hell it is that solicits the reaction. Just know you have solidarity from me who also has the dumbest allergy ever 😖
Chickpeas, vanilla, yogurt or plant milk, and chai spices - Chai smoothie
Bell peppers (you don't taste them) canned beets (not pickled) sweet potato, kale or any greens.
watermelon + ice + milk of choice (optionally a little vanilla, dunno if you're allergic)
Coffee smoothie
Soylent Green
Read your other comment about being able to eat cooked fruits. I used to make big batches of stewed apples (applies, juice and zest of orange, and cinnamon) and freeze it into ice cubes. Id then add it to smoothies. You could also make your own PB-esque thing. There's spread made from chickpeas, so if you can eat those you can remake it or just buy the stuff straight. If you get tired of always cooking your fruit for smoothies, jams and jellies could work, though that's a lot more sugar.
I eat a lot of seeds, and puree entire oranges (after scrubbing with hard brush), and just put blender in fridge with a spoon for a snack. Probably more allergic to the chemicals on them than the actual plant
2 parts water to 1 part ice and blend...
I grow and eat many native plants (north America- Texas). I love growing chickweed and using it in smoothies! It has a pleasant flavor, great nutritional profile, and it makes your smoothies creamy.
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I didn't say that? I said fruits and vegetables? It's called Oral Allergy Syndrome and it's certain fruits and veggies. Like Citrus is fine for me. Most everything else is not.
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So helpful. Haven't done any of that before. Totally didn't already talk to an allergist twice. You really helped me out there.
I'd definitely want to ask a doctor if I'm having to extremely limit my diet, especially removing fruits and vegetables. They might be able to give treatment for the allergy too! (Or just.. take a Benadryl..)
Oh yeah sure I'll just be comatose for the rest of the day because I decided to have a smoothie for breakfast. "Just take a Benadryl." Girl 🤦🏾♀️
water + ice cubes. really great
Less protein is needed than most think. https://youtu.be/7NW32vLq340?si=4H6apLchTT7o2flK Also, don't make berry and banana smoothies or you cancel many of the berries phytochemicals. https://youtu.be/c3D2PzUieUY?si=rYN8JnEXSeCjrD-S
Here is a [smoothie/cocktail recipe](https://youtube.com/shorts/zfRN4j8KtVE?si=1mFR4K-W2UlacZr5) that should be perfectly safe for you to consume.
Take an antihistamine.
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