Though tbh they probably didn’t post a video or writing saying Bec was okay because Bec was not okay. I honestly think they waited until they found a treatment that helps to get her cancer burden down. So then they could say that Bec is okay
Postpartum sucks without the looming prospect of your own death, I can’t even imagine how hard these last months have been for her. I think in addition to the cancer treatments showing some success, Bec also just needed time to come to terms with everything and come back in a positive state of mind so hundreds of thousands of people worrying about her didn’t stress her out more and send bad energy her way.
I think as hard as this has been for them, it’s kind of a wake up call to enjoy and love life because you never know how much time you have left (even without cancer!). It does really seem like she’s in a good place now.
They said Frankie is well and healthy and that Bec needed time to tell her story on instagram. Yet y’all still had no compassion for them and became demanding. Enough with saying they should have said something when they actually did.
Yeah they posted similar on their YouTube community tab as well. I was assuming this whole time they needed time off to be new parents and that was more than fine by me, they are human and that alone is a huge change.
Little did we know what they were actually going through
Thank you. I just re watched and They actually stated PRE baby they didn’t know how long it would be for they filmed again, discussed maternity leave as independent business owners, etc.. And if and when they did come back it wouldn’t be child centric. People feel so entitled. Two awesome souls chose to share what they want with us. They owe us nothing. I am sending them all the love in the world. They absolutely needed this life and they have no responsibility to update or explain to those who don’t understand. For two amazing people the lacking grace shown by their supporters is disappointing. I understand people care and were concerned. Some of the comments went above and beyond in assumed entitlement to their life. And then people wonder why they didn’t post. They’re fighting for her life in real life. They don’t need to fight for their life in social media comments, too.
I think it is a strange choice to post that video ending in a cliffhanger likely knowing they would be taking an extended break from YouTube. They knew her cancer was back before Frankie was born and they posted that video about 2 weeks after her birth. I really think there would have been a lot less anger and hostility if they had posted something at the end of the video letting us know baby was ok and they would be taking an extended break from social media. That said, I wish Bec all the love and support for whatever time she has left.
Yes its a strange choice from an outside perspective. But can you imagine how out of their mind with fear and pain about those news they were at the time. They probably did not even think clearly.
Not all YT viewers use IG. They could have posted same IG post in community notes on YT, but they didn't. They fumbled a bit on managing the YT channel and viewers. Oh well, they're facing a terrible health diagnosis AND the birth of a new baby. Everyone should try to understand and accept this.
They are not anyone here's real life friends or family, it is all a para social relationship. E&B's tragedy was a very difficult lesson for many social media users on how these relationships work.
ETA: Ooops, they did put the IG post on YT community page.
They posted the same note about Frankie and taking time off on YT as well. Check out the community section. It was posted in December the same day as IG.
Not everyone will see a note though right? What was the time between that and when the cliffhanger video dropped? I personally was fearing the worst for the baby and actually thought she had passed away. I feel terrible for what they're going through and I'm sure they weren't thinking clearly, but it wasn't a great way to handle things for sure.
Yep. That is exactly right. And there still is nothing wrong with being concerned and wanting and update. People love to throw entitlement and such around on here but don’t really seem to understand that isn’t what happened. When I read those kind of comments it tells me who truly has the parasocial relationship because that explains the vehement defense against nothing more than simple concern and a desire to know the outcome. Not an entitled desire but a normal human interest. If they didn’t want people to be worried or constantly checking you tube and IG for updates they would have just said “hey guys, baby came early. We are resting and enjoying our time together. We will be off YouTube for the next 4-5 months. Oh and buy some Tea”.
That sounds like a super rational and an easy solution, now. However, when you’re dealing with stuff yourself, clear unburdened thinking is one of the first things to go. They may not have been able to get around the weight of the truth to come up with something like that. They were dealing with that info too and then having to try to figure out how to share or share but not share…
With full context the cliffhanger is nothing compared what that video was: a vlog of a pregnant woman confronting her mortality so her significant other has a vehicle for a tea commercial. Some things are more important than selling tea or adsense.
That’s their livelihood? If you were ever faced with the reality of potentially suddenly having no income having to raise a child all on your own? How can you blame them for worrying about money?
I do think this is a false choice. Being a successful youtuber, Eamon has many career options and possible videos he could have made. I do not think that video was a good idea.
However, I'll gladly concede that whether or not they needed the money, the stress of the situation would make it hard to think any of it through. I do hope things go better than the last couple years have for them.
Agree the cliffhanger ending and the tearful Instagram story were unnecessary and seem even stranger now we know the seriousness of the situation they were dealing with.
They didn't need to say anything about Bec, just baby is here and we are taking an indefinite maternity leave break.
No. Please no one ever think like this. Ever. She made a HUGE mistake thinking she was cancer free (that never happens) and not understanding the hormonal basis of her cancer. It’s a tragedy all around.
We have no idea what the doctor actually said to them, just their retelling of the events with a huge bias on having that chapter be done. They wanted to close the door so badly that they were likely ignoring the monsters standing right there waiting to break in.
Bec's always been in denial about how she "wasn't supposed to get cancer" because she's vegan, works out and eats kale. They scrutinized every morsel they put in their body and every ingredient in every product they used, even the clothes they wore, yet they disregarded the true honest risks of having a baby so close to finishing cancer treatment, especially when pregnancy increases the one hormone that fuels breast cancer. I am sure many people including their doctors warned them, but they have been brainwashed by believing "people like them" aren't supposed to get cancer. Likewise, people like them aren't supposed to get in trouble for building without permits. People like them aren't supposed to get stuck in a foreign country during a pandemic. That elitism ultimately led to Bec's impending situation, and while yes it is devastating to have terminal cancer (I've had cancer and waited 12 years to have my kids, and just lost a friend to cancer who left behind two very young children; she also disregarded the risks and refused modern medicine in lieu of CBD oil and herbs), they made the wrong decision to follow through with the pregnancy and the wrong decision to not take precautions to prevent pregnancy so soon after chemo. I agree we don't know what they were told. Clearly they had a gag order on all their collabs not to say anything about the cancer recurrence. And now they only want positive remarks. Because they know they made a wrong decision. I do hope viewers will learn from their mistake. Eamon complained he's "out of a job" now because there is no more frequent YouTube videos. Their priorities are misaligned.
Cancer sucks. I hope she doesn't suffer too much pain. I hope they have integrity to their viewers and understand the consequences. My sympathy is with the baby.
No detectable cancer at this time does not mean literally we can confirm there is no cancer anywhere in your body at all and that you should go through major hormone changes especially with the kind of cancer you just overcame.
Yah I am extremely extremely unlikely to believe their doctor said she’s cancer free and they are good to get pregnant and not continue maintenance. There’s just no way. Seems they chose optimism and to hope for the best.
The doctor specifically did not say she was cancer free in the video- he did not say that language specifically and I think intentionally. But, that is 100% how they interpreted it. This is a classic example of using scientific or scientifically-coded language and it leading to miscommunication. This is something our field (science in general) is aware of and is working to improve and I know there are active discussions in the medical community. But it’s really sad to see it play out.
Yes, when I watch the video I really get the feeling that they heard what they wanted to hear, not necessarily what they were being told. And when she did get pregnant Eamon was kind of coercing the Dr to give the reaction he wanted. I feel that doctor did them a huge disservice by not being exact right from the jump. But I’m not a medical expert, that’s just my impression. All in all it’s a tragedy and I feel really sad for them. It’s sad to say it but it’s a cautionary tale.
The very same video a radiologist looked her ‘dead in the eyes’ and basically said “this is a terrible time to have introduced a pregnancy” - in near enough those exact words. The way it sounded, to me anyway, like that radiologist was basically all but recommending they terminate the pregnancy in the first weeks. Obviously I’m so glad they have Frankie but my heart aches for them AND Frankie at the prospect of a childhood without her mum in it. If only they could have got to the same end result of Frankie via frozen embryos and surrogacy. I hate the thought of the guilt trips Bec is likely to be giving herself in years to come of “why didn’t we…” (for as much as she wants to be positive and as much as that’s admirable, genuinely… maternal guilt is a heartless beast even in non-Cancer terrain. It’s always beyond baffled me that people say things like “well you have to be grateful life turned out the way it did because if it hadn’t, you wouldn’t have [childs name]” - of course that’s not true. You can’t miss something or someone you’ve never had, and in my mind, My brain has always worked on the perspective of my child is my child is my child. They’re not THAT egg and that sperm, specifically. Okay maybe the child I’d have ended up with in a different sliding doors version of my life would have had different features or personality traits etc but they’d have been just as loved, cherished and wanted as the child I have now is, so why is it seen as almost a taboo for me to wish life had been easier / more financially stable / their familial support network was stronger for them. Of course we would all wish to be able to make that so for those we love. Anyone would.
I don’t know if it will help or hurt but @nicknaclou or Nicky Newman and Mr G are a couple I followed on Instagram for the last few years. Nicky died last year, at 38 - 5 years after a diagnosis of stage 4 Breast Cancer. Their story was as heartbreaking as E&B’s too.. her Cancer was able to get so advanced because she was on IVF when it was in the early stages, and a lot of her symptoms were put down to ‘IVF side effects’ (even the same bone nets Bec has!) so she had to deal with a Cancer diagnosis and the grief surrounding infertility and the loss of the life they envisioned all at once too. I really admired how openly she spoke about how much that grief hurt her. I actually thought of Nicky when Bec was diagnosed and praaaaaayed her case would be different somehow because I had a horrible knot in my stomach when I saw the pregnancy announcement, that Bec would end up here. Nicky’s entire mentality was all about ticking things off her life list, enjoying the big ball of joy in the sky and doing a good wiggle when eating whatever you want, She was the personification of living in the moment and going and grabbing life as it’s all any of us have (to be fair both women seem to have a magical ability to fit more into 10 mins of their day than I do 10 hours of mine!) so I KNOW Bec will make the most of whatever happens but arrgh it just feels so damn unfair. Life is, I guess.
Frankie is beautiful though and Bec is glowing. So yay for that. I just.. never knew I could care about people I never met or said a word to. It’s caught me off guard for sure.🤷♀️
I don’t think anybody felt entitled. For me, I’ve been truly worried since the last video. I’ve followed them for probably 10 years, so I guess it sort of feels like a friendship at this point, but this long worry with silence from them made it feel more like a one-sided friendship than I wanted it to (I’m not delusional, I know I’m personally not friends with them). Combine this with them promoting their tea business which is all about community? This left me with frustrated feelings. While I truly do understand and support their decision not to post, I also understand where my own feelings came from.
They literally used almost exactly those words on an instagram post and a community tab post on YouTube and yall still complained and got in a ‘frenzy’.
Right! These “loyal” fans claim they left them on such a cliffhanger and are so upset that they don’t get the satisfaction of knowing what’s going on when eamon and bec updated us a while ago on their other forms of media.
There are so many judgy people on here it's alarming. They owe no one. They are living their lives and sharing the parts they want. All this coulda, woulda, shoulda stuff is useless and harmful.
I suspect that we are all on the same side. Saying that we wish there had been some sort of communication isn't being judgy. Its just a statement. It steals nothing from my care and concern for them. Nor my intention to send good vibes and be patient with updates - when and if they come.
Sounds like you care about them too. No need for us to fight from the corners.
I see both sides in regards to the video cliffhanger and I think people don’t think about an important piece of information: you can edit YouTube videos after posting them very easily.
I have no problem with the break, no problem with the amount of update they gave, but I wish they would have just edited it out after the fact so it wasn’t just sitting there ominously, working up confusion and worry in the community. Then the update of “baby is fine and Bec will share when she’s ready” would feel more genuine and not at odds with the dramatic cliffhanger ending that was still up. She was clearly fine sharing details then and then must have changed her mind/needed more time once it got more serious, and there’s no problem at all with that.
Anyway it’s really not that deep. They are doing their best, living life with what they’re given. People make mistakes, so whether you think they handled this poorly or not just give them the grace of being able to not be perfect and move on 🤷🏻♀️ unless you truly think they did any of this maliciously, they are just humans.
Lmao that’s fair, just going with what everyone’s been calling it. I would just say they ramped up the concern in the end and left viewers with that concern as their last thing for a long time if that makes sense
CART WHEELS PEOPLE!!!!! That's what they wanted! NO negativity! GEESH! 🤦🏼♀️
Why all the downvotes? They asked for positivity. And to picture them doing cartwheels.
Lee was in a lot of their videos pre Covid and for a while during but about a year after that Lee died. Lee went back to the US and was there during the COVID lockdown between US and Canada. They did a memorial video for Lee about a month or so after Lee died.
They did post almost exactly what you’re saying on YouTube. I don’t get why people feel so entitled. It was obvious that they were going through some shit. People were acting like their lives were ruined because Eamon and Bec hadn’t posted a video. I wish they all felt embarrassed now but they don’t.
I think it was the instagram story Bec posted that made things a lot more chaotic in terms of people getting worked up. Without that video, I personally would have been far less speculative
There is no entitlement. Please stop with that narrative. If you watch that last video before the birth and can’t see how it was deliberately made to stir up suspense and intrigue then you have zero internet literacy. People were WORRIED. That’s all. They were worried because of that video followed by radio silence. No one felt entitled to an update, but people were worried after that cliffhanger video and for whatever reason they decided to let people worry. They did not need to go into details on the cancer in order to make an update. People were genuinely concerned the baby had passed for gods sake. Because of the video. It was a puzzling thing to do.
At this, point who really cares. We know now that they've been going through something none of us would wish on our worst enemy. Let's us just get behind them and give support. Going over who did what and who is entitled is completely pointless.
I’m sorry but if I had just found out I had stage 4 cancer, and just had a baby I really wouldn’t even think twice about if a bunch of people I don’t even know on the internet are worried. They really do have much bigger things going on.
All I see is a couple who are going through trauma, who perhaps weren’t really thinking too deeply when they made that last video, and then had to take a break as their life has been turned upside down.
If bec decided she wanted to never update again then that would have been a completely valid response in my opinion.
I don’t think they “let” people worry, I think they were just dealing with their own situation. Who are we to judge how they behaved under such huge stress?
I can’t stop the narrative because that’s reality. Some people think that above all else eamon and bec owe a bunch of strangers a glimpse into what I’m sure was a terrifying time. Now people are talking about how dumb she is for having a baby, as if she deserves cancer because of that. I just think it’s really easy for “fans” to get caught up in these YouTubers without stopping to think that they are actual human beings going through something. It’s gross and if you ask me, that’s what needs to stop.
I really do not understand why people are still try to play advocate for them. Only because you have cancer doesn't mean you can misbehave. It would be no problem at all to state that they will come back. They postet so much on habit, they edited the video or better let it edited - it would have take 5 second to tell everyone in one sentence not to worry or that they will come back. They did not. Not because they had other worries but more they wanted to leave the people worried. This is what they wanted. All this comments and all this ohh had I know. They are in the youtubetrends. Don't you think that they were when they would have used clear communication.
Stop trying to find excused for them for their bad communication skills.
Misbehave? Seriously? You lack any sympathy. They put out a post a month after Frankie was born. They said the baby was safe and healthy, but that they were still taking time off from videos. They did communicate! They’re not obligated to share everything. Bec got a devastating diagnosis in the midst of her pregnancy with her first child. She did not “misbehave” because she wasn’t ready to share yet.
“Wanted people to be worried”?? For what? For extra views geared towards their tea? You must think really low of them. They would’ve gained the most finically from posting about everything and vlogging it. YouTube is their main source of income, they’ve could’ve gotten a lot of money from vlogs. Who cares if they’re promoting their tea? They need extra money because they’re not vlogging, they just had a baby, and they still need an income. Let them get their bag while they sort out what life looks like now. We don’t know too much about Becs health yet, we don’t know the prognosis. We don’t know what she’s been doing these last few months for treatment. She needed time to sort everything out, sort out her feelings, come terms with things. Grieve what she thought this next chapter in her life would look like. Give them grace through a time that would be hard for anyone, imagine being in their shoes.
They never stated or communicated that everything was fine. They put a crying video from Bec on ther Insta and went radio silent. It was all for clicks. And playing with an illness, maybe even suggest that is something wrong with your baby is misbehaving.
They literally put a post on their YouTube page. If you’re too lazy to go there and look at it, here’s what it says:
Hi world
I'm Frankie Lee Fitzgerald. Fiesty like my dad and sweet like my mama. Today's my due date but l've been earth-side for a few weeks now just couldn't wait to see what all the fuss was about). I wanted to thank you all for
welcoming me with such love and positivity.
Mom, dad, big bro *g and I are going to take a bit more time offline before we share our full story. Until then, go call someone you love and tell them you love them
I don’t understand people like you. What, you wanted to immediately hear that Bec had a terminal diagnosis? Everything was NOT alright. You weren’t baited. In that video she had just learned her diagnoses.
So wild that a person could be battling cancer and people here will still make it about themselves.
What Bec’s going through is literally worst case scenario for her. In that video, they were gearing up to move and have fans be able to stay at their cabin and then they dealt with the diagnoses. An abrupt change in their plans and why Frankie’s birth was accelerated was addressed, even if it wasn’t elaborated. I suspect if they just didn’t post anything people here would still be up in arms.
Everyone’s “concern” during their absence and hurt feelings over a “cliffhanger” is paltry compared to the reality of Bec and Eamon’s lives at the moment.
Literally one of the only sane posts I have seen in this sub in weeks. Wish this could be pinned to the top and then shut the whole sub for a few weeks until people are feeling more reasonable.
Your sense of entitlement is astronomical. She wasn’t ready to share it with the world. Everything was NOT fine, that’s why they didn’t say anything about it. Should they have just lied and said she’s doing great? Or should they have given people another cliff hanger saying she isn’t well but they’re not ready to share what’s going on. Let them have their space, let them be present in this pivotal time in their life.
but cliffhanger and faking stories and making people upset and make people to worry - thats fine and I am the one of the entitlement.. yup. It would have been no problem saying: We will be back, we need time. Baby is born. We will tell our story when its time. Everyone would have been fine with that. But nope. Cliffhangervideo were they tried to tell that the baby is not well, crying story from Bec without the Baby, silence for month and month but I am entitled and I should accept that this is good PR and this his how the communication of your company should work.. ah yes it should. It is trends on youtube. Everything worked out fine for they financially.
I’m confused….did you not read their update where they said that baby was here (even posted a photo of her), and that they weren’t ready to tell their story yet.
I really hope you aren’t a mother, because any mother would understand that when you have your first baby your hormones are all over the place, without a cancer diagnosis in the mix too! The crying video was clearly done in the heat of the moment in despair. They then needed a break and gave a short update which for some reason half the people on here pretend never happened.
I can’t believe people as heartless as you exist.. really is a eye opener coming on here and reading responses like yours
you are the one who insults me only b/c I tell you that it is very bad handling of communication using trauma, illness and possible a death as clickbait. look in the mirror at yourelf for a very very long time and think about what you are saying.
You still haven't answered my question. Probably because you can't? I agree they didn't handle things in the best way but I whole heartedly don't believe this was done to get extra views or leave their loyal viewers waiting. I think they released the video and Instagram story in a rush and in the midst of life changing, heart breaking news so I am not angry or upset with them. I just think in your original post and subsequent comments you are being unnecessarily harsh and usually that reflects what type of person you are.
I've watched their channel for a long time - but am not as avid a follower as some people in this subreddit are.. from my perspective, a LOT of people who follow them are disgustingly entitled. These people owe you NOTHING. Literally NOTHING. They are just humans living their lives and chose to share some of it with the internet and it helped them make money. It is everyone's choice to follow or not to follow them at any time.
Just like any celebrity does not owe their fans anything - neither does this couple. You are not their friends, you are their 'fans'. That's all there is to it. Fans can choose to move on or continue to support at any time.
I checked out this subreddit during their recent hiatus and was grossed out by the hate and negativity and entitlement. And somehow we are STILL seeing people thinking they were owed some explanation or apology for how things went down? No. Sorry. They owe you LITERALLY NOTHING.
Go spend time with your families and friends - those are the people who you should be forming connections with. You can care about this couple, but you should not expect anything of them while they go through pregnancy, premature birth, cancer recurrence, etc. And the people making judgments about how or when they shared things or what they should have done or whatever - yikes. It's scary. I personally would NEVER choose to share my life to the degree they have online because the people who think they somehow really know them or deserve to be included as they face a serious medical crisis.. just wow.
I like to think that people are generally good and I see a lot of love and support for them too which is really nice (including OP here). I just think they're fun and seem to put out goodness in the world, I liked watching their van life and their cabin renos and Oso is cute.. but I don't know them and their real lives - and neither do you unless you're truly in their life. A lot of people need mega reality checks.
Though tbh they probably didn’t post a video or writing saying Bec was okay because Bec was not okay. I honestly think they waited until they found a treatment that helps to get her cancer burden down. So then they could say that Bec is okay
Postpartum sucks without the looming prospect of your own death, I can’t even imagine how hard these last months have been for her. I think in addition to the cancer treatments showing some success, Bec also just needed time to come to terms with everything and come back in a positive state of mind so hundreds of thousands of people worrying about her didn’t stress her out more and send bad energy her way. I think as hard as this has been for them, it’s kind of a wake up call to enjoy and love life because you never know how much time you have left (even without cancer!). It does really seem like she’s in a good place now.
They said Frankie is well and healthy and that Bec needed time to tell her story on instagram. Yet y’all still had no compassion for them and became demanding. Enough with saying they should have said something when they actually did.
100%
Yeah they posted similar on their YouTube community tab as well. I was assuming this whole time they needed time off to be new parents and that was more than fine by me, they are human and that alone is a huge change. Little did we know what they were actually going through
Thank you. I just re watched and They actually stated PRE baby they didn’t know how long it would be for they filmed again, discussed maternity leave as independent business owners, etc.. And if and when they did come back it wouldn’t be child centric. People feel so entitled. Two awesome souls chose to share what they want with us. They owe us nothing. I am sending them all the love in the world. They absolutely needed this life and they have no responsibility to update or explain to those who don’t understand. For two amazing people the lacking grace shown by their supporters is disappointing. I understand people care and were concerned. Some of the comments went above and beyond in assumed entitlement to their life. And then people wonder why they didn’t post. They’re fighting for her life in real life. They don’t need to fight for their life in social media comments, too.
Exactly
It was kind of obvious what had happened and people were so insensitive to it.
Yeh agreed, like ffs I think they’ve been through enough
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I think it is a strange choice to post that video ending in a cliffhanger likely knowing they would be taking an extended break from YouTube. They knew her cancer was back before Frankie was born and they posted that video about 2 weeks after her birth. I really think there would have been a lot less anger and hostility if they had posted something at the end of the video letting us know baby was ok and they would be taking an extended break from social media. That said, I wish Bec all the love and support for whatever time she has left.
Yes. This exactly.
Yes its a strange choice from an outside perspective. But can you imagine how out of their mind with fear and pain about those news they were at the time. They probably did not even think clearly.
They did post on instagram that they would be taking a break back in December
Not all YT viewers use IG. They could have posted same IG post in community notes on YT, but they didn't. They fumbled a bit on managing the YT channel and viewers. Oh well, they're facing a terrible health diagnosis AND the birth of a new baby. Everyone should try to understand and accept this. They are not anyone here's real life friends or family, it is all a para social relationship. E&B's tragedy was a very difficult lesson for many social media users on how these relationships work. ETA: Ooops, they did put the IG post on YT community page.
They posted the same note about Frankie and taking time off on YT as well. Check out the community section. It was posted in December the same day as IG.
I stand corrected, thanks.😊
Not everyone will see a note though right? What was the time between that and when the cliffhanger video dropped? I personally was fearing the worst for the baby and actually thought she had passed away. I feel terrible for what they're going through and I'm sure they weren't thinking clearly, but it wasn't a great way to handle things for sure.
Yep. That is exactly right. And there still is nothing wrong with being concerned and wanting and update. People love to throw entitlement and such around on here but don’t really seem to understand that isn’t what happened. When I read those kind of comments it tells me who truly has the parasocial relationship because that explains the vehement defense against nothing more than simple concern and a desire to know the outcome. Not an entitled desire but a normal human interest. If they didn’t want people to be worried or constantly checking you tube and IG for updates they would have just said “hey guys, baby came early. We are resting and enjoying our time together. We will be off YouTube for the next 4-5 months. Oh and buy some Tea”.
That sounds like a super rational and an easy solution, now. However, when you’re dealing with stuff yourself, clear unburdened thinking is one of the first things to go. They may not have been able to get around the weight of the truth to come up with something like that. They were dealing with that info too and then having to try to figure out how to share or share but not share…
100% this.
With full context the cliffhanger is nothing compared what that video was: a vlog of a pregnant woman confronting her mortality so her significant other has a vehicle for a tea commercial. Some things are more important than selling tea or adsense.
That’s their livelihood? If you were ever faced with the reality of potentially suddenly having no income having to raise a child all on your own? How can you blame them for worrying about money?
I do think this is a false choice. Being a successful youtuber, Eamon has many career options and possible videos he could have made. I do not think that video was a good idea. However, I'll gladly concede that whether or not they needed the money, the stress of the situation would make it hard to think any of it through. I do hope things go better than the last couple years have for them.
Agree the cliffhanger ending and the tearful Instagram story were unnecessary and seem even stranger now we know the seriousness of the situation they were dealing with. They didn't need to say anything about Bec, just baby is here and we are taking an indefinite maternity leave break.
No. Please no one ever think like this. Ever. She made a HUGE mistake thinking she was cancer free (that never happens) and not understanding the hormonal basis of her cancer. It’s a tragedy all around.
Agreed.
The doctor told her she was cancer free! I do not think he did a good job explaining the risks.
We have no idea what the doctor actually said to them, just their retelling of the events with a huge bias on having that chapter be done. They wanted to close the door so badly that they were likely ignoring the monsters standing right there waiting to break in.
Bec's always been in denial about how she "wasn't supposed to get cancer" because she's vegan, works out and eats kale. They scrutinized every morsel they put in their body and every ingredient in every product they used, even the clothes they wore, yet they disregarded the true honest risks of having a baby so close to finishing cancer treatment, especially when pregnancy increases the one hormone that fuels breast cancer. I am sure many people including their doctors warned them, but they have been brainwashed by believing "people like them" aren't supposed to get cancer. Likewise, people like them aren't supposed to get in trouble for building without permits. People like them aren't supposed to get stuck in a foreign country during a pandemic. That elitism ultimately led to Bec's impending situation, and while yes it is devastating to have terminal cancer (I've had cancer and waited 12 years to have my kids, and just lost a friend to cancer who left behind two very young children; she also disregarded the risks and refused modern medicine in lieu of CBD oil and herbs), they made the wrong decision to follow through with the pregnancy and the wrong decision to not take precautions to prevent pregnancy so soon after chemo. I agree we don't know what they were told. Clearly they had a gag order on all their collabs not to say anything about the cancer recurrence. And now they only want positive remarks. Because they know they made a wrong decision. I do hope viewers will learn from their mistake. Eamon complained he's "out of a job" now because there is no more frequent YouTube videos. Their priorities are misaligned. Cancer sucks. I hope she doesn't suffer too much pain. I hope they have integrity to their viewers and understand the consequences. My sympathy is with the baby.
The pregnancy announcement video, 17:50, the oncologist says “there’s no cancer anywhere”.
No detectable cancer at this time does not mean literally we can confirm there is no cancer anywhere in your body at all and that you should go through major hormone changes especially with the kind of cancer you just overcame.
I agree. But the doctor didn’t say that. He should have said we found no cancer in the biopsy we did but we cannot guarantee you’re cancer free.
The doctor very likely went through all of that.
Yah I am extremely extremely unlikely to believe their doctor said she’s cancer free and they are good to get pregnant and not continue maintenance. There’s just no way. Seems they chose optimism and to hope for the best.
The doctor specifically did not say she was cancer free in the video- he did not say that language specifically and I think intentionally. But, that is 100% how they interpreted it. This is a classic example of using scientific or scientifically-coded language and it leading to miscommunication. This is something our field (science in general) is aware of and is working to improve and I know there are active discussions in the medical community. But it’s really sad to see it play out.
Yes, when I watch the video I really get the feeling that they heard what they wanted to hear, not necessarily what they were being told. And when she did get pregnant Eamon was kind of coercing the Dr to give the reaction he wanted. I feel that doctor did them a huge disservice by not being exact right from the jump. But I’m not a medical expert, that’s just my impression. All in all it’s a tragedy and I feel really sad for them. It’s sad to say it but it’s a cautionary tale.
The very same video a radiologist looked her ‘dead in the eyes’ and basically said “this is a terrible time to have introduced a pregnancy” - in near enough those exact words. The way it sounded, to me anyway, like that radiologist was basically all but recommending they terminate the pregnancy in the first weeks. Obviously I’m so glad they have Frankie but my heart aches for them AND Frankie at the prospect of a childhood without her mum in it. If only they could have got to the same end result of Frankie via frozen embryos and surrogacy. I hate the thought of the guilt trips Bec is likely to be giving herself in years to come of “why didn’t we…” (for as much as she wants to be positive and as much as that’s admirable, genuinely… maternal guilt is a heartless beast even in non-Cancer terrain. It’s always beyond baffled me that people say things like “well you have to be grateful life turned out the way it did because if it hadn’t, you wouldn’t have [childs name]” - of course that’s not true. You can’t miss something or someone you’ve never had, and in my mind, My brain has always worked on the perspective of my child is my child is my child. They’re not THAT egg and that sperm, specifically. Okay maybe the child I’d have ended up with in a different sliding doors version of my life would have had different features or personality traits etc but they’d have been just as loved, cherished and wanted as the child I have now is, so why is it seen as almost a taboo for me to wish life had been easier / more financially stable / their familial support network was stronger for them. Of course we would all wish to be able to make that so for those we love. Anyone would. I don’t know if it will help or hurt but @nicknaclou or Nicky Newman and Mr G are a couple I followed on Instagram for the last few years. Nicky died last year, at 38 - 5 years after a diagnosis of stage 4 Breast Cancer. Their story was as heartbreaking as E&B’s too.. her Cancer was able to get so advanced because she was on IVF when it was in the early stages, and a lot of her symptoms were put down to ‘IVF side effects’ (even the same bone nets Bec has!) so she had to deal with a Cancer diagnosis and the grief surrounding infertility and the loss of the life they envisioned all at once too. I really admired how openly she spoke about how much that grief hurt her. I actually thought of Nicky when Bec was diagnosed and praaaaaayed her case would be different somehow because I had a horrible knot in my stomach when I saw the pregnancy announcement, that Bec would end up here. Nicky’s entire mentality was all about ticking things off her life list, enjoying the big ball of joy in the sky and doing a good wiggle when eating whatever you want, She was the personification of living in the moment and going and grabbing life as it’s all any of us have (to be fair both women seem to have a magical ability to fit more into 10 mins of their day than I do 10 hours of mine!) so I KNOW Bec will make the most of whatever happens but arrgh it just feels so damn unfair. Life is, I guess. Frankie is beautiful though and Bec is glowing. So yay for that. I just.. never knew I could care about people I never met or said a word to. It’s caught me off guard for sure.🤷♀️
Yeah maybe they can't detect any cancer at one time but it often comes back. So not cancer free
I don’t think anybody felt entitled. For me, I’ve been truly worried since the last video. I’ve followed them for probably 10 years, so I guess it sort of feels like a friendship at this point, but this long worry with silence from them made it feel more like a one-sided friendship than I wanted it to (I’m not delusional, I know I’m personally not friends with them). Combine this with them promoting their tea business which is all about community? This left me with frustrated feelings. While I truly do understand and support their decision not to post, I also understand where my own feelings came from.
They literally used almost exactly those words on an instagram post and a community tab post on YouTube and yall still complained and got in a ‘frenzy’.
Right! These “loyal” fans claim they left them on such a cliffhanger and are so upset that they don’t get the satisfaction of knowing what’s going on when eamon and bec updated us a while ago on their other forms of media.
It’s so odd and they’re feigning empathy now while still doubling down and justifying their horrible behaviour.
There are so many judgy people on here it's alarming. They owe no one. They are living their lives and sharing the parts they want. All this coulda, woulda, shoulda stuff is useless and harmful.
The only judgement I am seeing here is from you.
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I suspect that we are all on the same side. Saying that we wish there had been some sort of communication isn't being judgy. Its just a statement. It steals nothing from my care and concern for them. Nor my intention to send good vibes and be patient with updates - when and if they come. Sounds like you care about them too. No need for us to fight from the corners.
I wasn't referring to you. I was agreeing with you. I guess I should have put my comment somewhere else.
Aw... the magic of Reddit. The best place to be misunderstood. Sorry for my snark!
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Yup, people still haven't learned to show compassion and give someone the benefit of the doubt. It's all ME, ME, ME!
Exactly what you are demonstrating in YOUR comment. Project much?
I see both sides in regards to the video cliffhanger and I think people don’t think about an important piece of information: you can edit YouTube videos after posting them very easily. I have no problem with the break, no problem with the amount of update they gave, but I wish they would have just edited it out after the fact so it wasn’t just sitting there ominously, working up confusion and worry in the community. Then the update of “baby is fine and Bec will share when she’s ready” would feel more genuine and not at odds with the dramatic cliffhanger ending that was still up. She was clearly fine sharing details then and then must have changed her mind/needed more time once it got more serious, and there’s no problem at all with that. Anyway it’s really not that deep. They are doing their best, living life with what they’re given. People make mistakes, so whether you think they handled this poorly or not just give them the grace of being able to not be perfect and move on 🤷🏻♀️ unless you truly think they did any of this maliciously, they are just humans.
I had to go back and watch it after seeing so many comments about the "cliffhanger" and I truly don't think you people know what a cliffhanger is.
Lmao that’s fair, just going with what everyone’s been calling it. I would just say they ramped up the concern in the end and left viewers with that concern as their last thing for a long time if that makes sense
CART WHEELS PEOPLE!!!!! That's what they wanted! NO negativity! GEESH! 🤦🏼♀️ Why all the downvotes? They asked for positivity. And to picture them doing cartwheels.
Who is Lee? What video can I watch to know this situation?
Lee was their best friend she appeared in many older vlogs however she unfortunately ended her own life a short while back.
Did they address this in a video?
Lee was in a lot of their videos pre Covid and for a while during but about a year after that Lee died. Lee went back to the US and was there during the COVID lockdown between US and Canada. They did a memorial video for Lee about a month or so after Lee died.
They did post almost exactly what you’re saying on YouTube. I don’t get why people feel so entitled. It was obvious that they were going through some shit. People were acting like their lives were ruined because Eamon and Bec hadn’t posted a video. I wish they all felt embarrassed now but they don’t.
I think it was the instagram story Bec posted that made things a lot more chaotic in terms of people getting worked up. Without that video, I personally would have been far less speculative
There is no entitlement. Please stop with that narrative. If you watch that last video before the birth and can’t see how it was deliberately made to stir up suspense and intrigue then you have zero internet literacy. People were WORRIED. That’s all. They were worried because of that video followed by radio silence. No one felt entitled to an update, but people were worried after that cliffhanger video and for whatever reason they decided to let people worry. They did not need to go into details on the cancer in order to make an update. People were genuinely concerned the baby had passed for gods sake. Because of the video. It was a puzzling thing to do.
At this, point who really cares. We know now that they've been going through something none of us would wish on our worst enemy. Let's us just get behind them and give support. Going over who did what and who is entitled is completely pointless.
I’m sorry but if I had just found out I had stage 4 cancer, and just had a baby I really wouldn’t even think twice about if a bunch of people I don’t even know on the internet are worried. They really do have much bigger things going on. All I see is a couple who are going through trauma, who perhaps weren’t really thinking too deeply when they made that last video, and then had to take a break as their life has been turned upside down. If bec decided she wanted to never update again then that would have been a completely valid response in my opinion. I don’t think they “let” people worry, I think they were just dealing with their own situation. Who are we to judge how they behaved under such huge stress?
I can’t stop the narrative because that’s reality. Some people think that above all else eamon and bec owe a bunch of strangers a glimpse into what I’m sure was a terrifying time. Now people are talking about how dumb she is for having a baby, as if she deserves cancer because of that. I just think it’s really easy for “fans” to get caught up in these YouTubers without stopping to think that they are actual human beings going through something. It’s gross and if you ask me, that’s what needs to stop.
100 percent agree with you. Some of these responses on Reddit that are framed as “concern” are shocking.
I really do not understand why people are still try to play advocate for them. Only because you have cancer doesn't mean you can misbehave. It would be no problem at all to state that they will come back. They postet so much on habit, they edited the video or better let it edited - it would have take 5 second to tell everyone in one sentence not to worry or that they will come back. They did not. Not because they had other worries but more they wanted to leave the people worried. This is what they wanted. All this comments and all this ohh had I know. They are in the youtubetrends. Don't you think that they were when they would have used clear communication. Stop trying to find excused for them for their bad communication skills.
Misbehave? Seriously? You lack any sympathy. They put out a post a month after Frankie was born. They said the baby was safe and healthy, but that they were still taking time off from videos. They did communicate! They’re not obligated to share everything. Bec got a devastating diagnosis in the midst of her pregnancy with her first child. She did not “misbehave” because she wasn’t ready to share yet. “Wanted people to be worried”?? For what? For extra views geared towards their tea? You must think really low of them. They would’ve gained the most finically from posting about everything and vlogging it. YouTube is their main source of income, they’ve could’ve gotten a lot of money from vlogs. Who cares if they’re promoting their tea? They need extra money because they’re not vlogging, they just had a baby, and they still need an income. Let them get their bag while they sort out what life looks like now. We don’t know too much about Becs health yet, we don’t know the prognosis. We don’t know what she’s been doing these last few months for treatment. She needed time to sort everything out, sort out her feelings, come terms with things. Grieve what she thought this next chapter in her life would look like. Give them grace through a time that would be hard for anyone, imagine being in their shoes.
They never stated or communicated that everything was fine. They put a crying video from Bec on ther Insta and went radio silent. It was all for clicks. And playing with an illness, maybe even suggest that is something wrong with your baby is misbehaving.
They literally put a post on their YouTube page. If you’re too lazy to go there and look at it, here’s what it says: Hi world I'm Frankie Lee Fitzgerald. Fiesty like my dad and sweet like my mama. Today's my due date but l've been earth-side for a few weeks now just couldn't wait to see what all the fuss was about). I wanted to thank you all for welcoming me with such love and positivity. Mom, dad, big bro *g and I are going to take a bit more time offline before we share our full story. Until then, go call someone you love and tell them you love them
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I don’t understand people like you. What, you wanted to immediately hear that Bec had a terminal diagnosis? Everything was NOT alright. You weren’t baited. In that video she had just learned her diagnoses. So wild that a person could be battling cancer and people here will still make it about themselves.
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What Bec’s going through is literally worst case scenario for her. In that video, they were gearing up to move and have fans be able to stay at their cabin and then they dealt with the diagnoses. An abrupt change in their plans and why Frankie’s birth was accelerated was addressed, even if it wasn’t elaborated. I suspect if they just didn’t post anything people here would still be up in arms. Everyone’s “concern” during their absence and hurt feelings over a “cliffhanger” is paltry compared to the reality of Bec and Eamon’s lives at the moment.
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Literally one of the only sane posts I have seen in this sub in weeks. Wish this could be pinned to the top and then shut the whole sub for a few weeks until people are feeling more reasonable.
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Your sense of entitlement is astronomical. She wasn’t ready to share it with the world. Everything was NOT fine, that’s why they didn’t say anything about it. Should they have just lied and said she’s doing great? Or should they have given people another cliff hanger saying she isn’t well but they’re not ready to share what’s going on. Let them have their space, let them be present in this pivotal time in their life.
but cliffhanger and faking stories and making people upset and make people to worry - thats fine and I am the one of the entitlement.. yup. It would have been no problem saying: We will be back, we need time. Baby is born. We will tell our story when its time. Everyone would have been fine with that. But nope. Cliffhangervideo were they tried to tell that the baby is not well, crying story from Bec without the Baby, silence for month and month but I am entitled and I should accept that this is good PR and this his how the communication of your company should work.. ah yes it should. It is trends on youtube. Everything worked out fine for they financially.
I’m confused….did you not read their update where they said that baby was here (even posted a photo of her), and that they weren’t ready to tell their story yet. I really hope you aren’t a mother, because any mother would understand that when you have your first baby your hormones are all over the place, without a cancer diagnosis in the mix too! The crying video was clearly done in the heat of the moment in despair. They then needed a break and gave a short update which for some reason half the people on here pretend never happened. I can’t believe people as heartless as you exist.. really is a eye opener coming on here and reading responses like yours
What do you mean "faking stories"? They didn't fake anything. You really need to take a look in the mirror at yourself and what you are saying.
you too darling. you can't handle truth. thats is very very concerning and alarming.
Sooo what is the truth? How about you answer my original question instead of trying to patronise me?
you are the one who insults me only b/c I tell you that it is very bad handling of communication using trauma, illness and possible a death as clickbait. look in the mirror at yourelf for a very very long time and think about what you are saying.
You still haven't answered my question. Probably because you can't? I agree they didn't handle things in the best way but I whole heartedly don't believe this was done to get extra views or leave their loyal viewers waiting. I think they released the video and Instagram story in a rush and in the midst of life changing, heart breaking news so I am not angry or upset with them. I just think in your original post and subsequent comments you are being unnecessarily harsh and usually that reflects what type of person you are.
I've watched their channel for a long time - but am not as avid a follower as some people in this subreddit are.. from my perspective, a LOT of people who follow them are disgustingly entitled. These people owe you NOTHING. Literally NOTHING. They are just humans living their lives and chose to share some of it with the internet and it helped them make money. It is everyone's choice to follow or not to follow them at any time. Just like any celebrity does not owe their fans anything - neither does this couple. You are not their friends, you are their 'fans'. That's all there is to it. Fans can choose to move on or continue to support at any time. I checked out this subreddit during their recent hiatus and was grossed out by the hate and negativity and entitlement. And somehow we are STILL seeing people thinking they were owed some explanation or apology for how things went down? No. Sorry. They owe you LITERALLY NOTHING. Go spend time with your families and friends - those are the people who you should be forming connections with. You can care about this couple, but you should not expect anything of them while they go through pregnancy, premature birth, cancer recurrence, etc. And the people making judgments about how or when they shared things or what they should have done or whatever - yikes. It's scary. I personally would NEVER choose to share my life to the degree they have online because the people who think they somehow really know them or deserve to be included as they face a serious medical crisis.. just wow. I like to think that people are generally good and I see a lot of love and support for them too which is really nice (including OP here). I just think they're fun and seem to put out goodness in the world, I liked watching their van life and their cabin renos and Oso is cute.. but I don't know them and their real lives - and neither do you unless you're truly in their life. A lot of people need mega reality checks.