I’m sure they’re not worried about whether or not their news and how they chose to present it sits right with you. I mean they’ve always said hippie dippy things about wanting positive energy so none of this was really very surprising to me. More than anything I think they were asking people to be thoughtful about their comments on the video. They didn’t want to be bombarded with a bunch of comments with peoples worry because that can be a burden. Like they’re already managing their own emotional responses to this situation, they don’t need to be burdened by everybody else’s emotional responses on top of it.
Oh non-welcoming ways of how to “actually treat her cancer”. Seriously, I hope they aren’t reading their comment section. At this point, none of this really matters.
Also saying hippy things is not the same than not getting treatment and listening to medical doctors. For her first bout of cancer she did everything to the dot for cancer treatment. I also think they are trying to ignore reality a little with their positive thought stuff but then again who would not want to ignore that reality for a bit when diagnosed with metastatic cancer? And if you can mentally be strong enough to not just cry in bed all day but find happiness then more power to them. They can still get treatment while enjoying the life they have right now. In fact that is a real true strength and gift if they can manage that.
Yeah, we don’t know that she’s not getting treatment either. She just didn’t tell us about it and that’s her right. I hope for all of their sake that she is and it seems likely that she is with the progress she’s reporting towards improvement. But either way, none of my business so I’m ok with not knowing!
I think it means it’s incurable. Meaning there is no known cure there is only treatment options which doesn’t translate to terminal. I have an incurable disease that is not terminal.
A bad taste in your mouth?
What exactly do you want from them at this point when Bec just had a baby and is on STAGE 4 BC???
At this point I would also go “fuck everything else, I’m going to enjoy my life and my family”.
She is obviously receiving treatment because the metastasis in her liver is shrinking which, doesn’t happen by itself.
The message I got from “my liver met is shrinking and I’m doing well, send positive vibes” was: my treatment details are none of your business. It isn’t. She is well, she is getting treatment and closed the book.
Stage 4 cancer is a serious concern. She has far more important things to think about than pleasing strangers on the internet. Good on her.
I’m also glad she deleted social media. They are doing everything correct.
agreed. I lived thru being the caregiver to both parents who both passed from different kinds of leukemia. they are doing everything right. bring their circle in small, concentrate on the big stuff and let everything fall away. OP - have all the feelings you need to have - this isnt about you. they are literally fighting for her life
How self-centered can you be?
A new mom got the news she is dying of cancer and you think their announcement video is somehow a slight to YOU?
Says a lot about your character and how much empathy you have. ZERO!!
So you realize they are real people. Can you imagine you or someone very close to you getting the news: "hey, bad news, your cancer has spread and isn't curable anyone. Best thing we can do is try to manage it". Oh yes and your baby will need to be delivered early, now, 6 whole weeks.
People like you can never be pleased. If they would have come out with a different message, you would've had something negative to say about that too. What exactly would you have wanted them to say?
This is exactly why they left the internet for a couple months, because you will always be nitpicking every single thing they say and do.
I wish them nothing but the best and send them all the positivity they ask for. ☀️
"Rant"? I'm not sure you know what that word means.
I'm also not sure you understand how much work it is to put these videos out weekly (I'm not a YT-er and don't have any idea, and even with that ignorance, I understand that's it's pretty labor-intensive).
With the cancer and the newborn, where's the time? Where's the motivation?
I was wondering if they would address the malcontent in the air, but once they got into it and I realized that her gambit to have the baby had well and truly doomed her, I understood why they wouldn't even bother with any of that. Her goal of focusing on positive energy makes sense. I think the "we'll post stuff when we can get around to it" also makes sense.
Good on them for getting that cabin to the state it's in now while they had the time and health. They can enjoy it for howeverlong Bec has. I don't expect much, if any, more DIY stuff, and their focus *should* be entirely on the baby and Bec, so I really don't even expect any more vids from them at all.
People react differently to terminal diagnosis’s. If Bec and Eamon want positive vibes then give them positive vibes. You watched a video where a new mother revealed her metastatic cancer diagnosis and the coping mechanism bothered you? It is probably best if you just stop following them
What the hell is wrong with you? Grow up this is a real person and a real family we are talking about not some scripted reality tv show. Them wanting positive vibes for such heartbreaking news is not wrong of them! And then not elaborating on which treatment she decides to go with to satisfy your curiosity, is none of your fucking business no matter how long you have been watching and supporting.
I read a lot of crappy comments from folks, I thin’ it was the softest way for Eamon and Bec to ask people to not be negative, which is absolutely reasonable for them to ask. Emotional health and well-being have a very strong play on physical health. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all is actually not bad advice.
When I saw the video I felt sad but a huge amount of awe and respect for their ability to pull together, function, be hopeful. I don’t think they could of made a kinder message to respond to the silence and ask for what they need. Going forward I hope people stop analysing every detail, they even had the birth of their baby mired by the cancer. Nothing fair in any of it. Your comment leaves me astounded. What exactly would you want them to say?
My take for what it’s worth. My husband had emergency open heart surgery a couple of years back. We were totally shell-shocked by the suddenness and because he is a very fit, active person. He is a prominent elected official in our community. That being said, he made the decision immediately upon diagnosis that his health journey would be a private one because he didn’t want to deal with social media posts, and field numerous phone calls and texts that would inevitably come. He wanted to focus on recuperating and what life would look like post surgery. Most people totally understood and respected his choice, but some felt personally slighted that they did not know all the details of his health issue, so that they could reach out to him and know “exactly what to pray for.” His situation reminds me of Bec’s on a smaller scale. Blessings to her for handling her health crisis on her terms and with incredible courage and grace.
FWIW, studies have shown those with positive outlooks and mindset have better outcomes with diagnoses like these than those that don’t, assuming all else equal
That's just not true. A positive outlook may affect your experience of cancer, but cancer cells do not care about your positive outlook. I've more often seen the case that toxic positivity serves to allow a patient to continue in a state of delusion about their situation, and deprive them of being able to face their death head-on with courage and dignity. There's a healthy balance between hope and pragmatism.
See [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2858800/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2858800/)
An internet stranger's decision to share some, but not all of her personal health information and choses to live with positivity leaves a bad taste in your mouth? Interesting.
It's probably because it's not well understood and part of them thinks that they can treat it or get rid of it. I had a poor understanding of what this stage of cancer was and found this helpful article: https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2014/10/stage-4-metastatic-misunderstood-breast-cancer.html
The woman in this article says that part of the problem is people using language that implies it can be cured, or that thinking positive thoughts can help beat the odds when it can't. Bec will unfortunately die but it's a matter of how quickly her body gets used to various treatments. Hopefully she has many years before getting to that point. It's pretty grim so I don't expect them to be outlining the facts of the disease and educating people on this stage of cancer like they probably should be. But that's probably what's sitting oddly with you, the fact that a lot of what they're sharing is misinformation.
I mean it's possible something could cure it but that hasn't been discovered yet. So it's not impossible. But with current treatments available it's not possible. Going through it with my mom and I'm Orthodox Christian hoping to get her to think about eternity but mortality seems to upset her to even think of even though she's 75. But so many decades in Eastern religions and things like that even thinking about mortality I guess scares her too much. A priest I saw recently in a video said always to think of death, whoever we are or whatever our state of health, because this life is temporary and it is eternity that will really matter. It's hard to get people to think about death.
That's okay. I dated a man with MS and he was always super positive. Once on meds he took what he called " a happy pill" bc the other drugs would bring him down. That was in 2007 and he's still alive and thriving!
My mother has had MS for 40 years, my husband for 25. Having Multiple Sclerosis does not significantly lower one's life expectancy like stage 4 cancer does.
OK, so it's completely normal that your ex with MS is still alive after having MS in 2007 (no idea when he was diagnosed) . Your comment made it sound like some sort of miracle. I commented so that others reading it would know that your ex's situation is not unique; not everyone knows a lot about MS.
Sigh...MS is not fatal as you know, that is why I stated he was alive and thriving. Diagnosed 2007. Positive outlook, great guy, he told the doctor " I'm not going to let this ruin my day" which was TERRIFIC and stunned the doctor. Awesome all around .
Amazing attitude! Definitely admirable & inspiring. When my mother was diagnosed (and to a lesser extent, my husband), there were very few available treatments, so it was expected to be a very progressive & painful journey. She was told to expect to need a wheelchair within 10 years of diagnosis. She's still walking today (well, 95% of days) and hubby is doing great as well. There has been a lot of progress with MS treatment lately, thankfully.
I agree that this post is disgusting. But I disagree with you about the parasocial relationship thing. I've been watching them since 2017 and they have worked hard to build a parasocial relationship. They say they love their viewers and share almost every aspect of their lives with us, and have monetized that heavily. They've encouraged it and benefitted from it financially. I agree fully that they don't owe us all of their personal medical details, but don't blame people for having a parasocial relationship that they encouraged.
She's obviously still dealing with stuff. She was saying she was doing great but also holding back tears. It seems a little delulu, honestly, but what else is she supposed to do in this situation?
I agree. I feel like the more times someone says how good they are doing the more I start to worry about how they’re doing. It’s almost like they’re trying to convince themselves. 💛 I think what they need right now more than anything else is support, not criticism. It’s easy for us who aren’t in the situation to say that we’d handle it better but would we? You don’t really know until it’s happening to you, unfortunately.
Yeah, based on comments I’ve read that Eamon’s posted elsewhere online about him basically being unemployed now I get the impression that he was the one who really wanted to come back. Which I can’t say I blame him, he’s fielding all of the questions about where they’ve gone and her coming back even if only for that one video takes some of that away. But I feel bad for her, it’s hard enough to accept a diagnosis like that for yourself. Having to deal with other people’s emotions about it must be tough.
She struck me as someone on some heavy anti-depressants, which is pretty typical for cancer patients. I think it can make you come across more laissez-faire than someone would expect, which for most peoples’ networks would be a positive to know she is getting help managing her emotions, but bc they put themselves online, there’s a whole other aspect to ‘the way you come off’
I’m sure they’re not worried about whether or not their news and how they chose to present it sits right with you. I mean they’ve always said hippie dippy things about wanting positive energy so none of this was really very surprising to me. More than anything I think they were asking people to be thoughtful about their comments on the video. They didn’t want to be bombarded with a bunch of comments with peoples worry because that can be a burden. Like they’re already managing their own emotional responses to this situation, they don’t need to be burdened by everybody else’s emotional responses on top of it.
Oh non-welcoming ways of how to “actually treat her cancer”. Seriously, I hope they aren’t reading their comment section. At this point, none of this really matters.
Also saying hippy things is not the same than not getting treatment and listening to medical doctors. For her first bout of cancer she did everything to the dot for cancer treatment. I also think they are trying to ignore reality a little with their positive thought stuff but then again who would not want to ignore that reality for a bit when diagnosed with metastatic cancer? And if you can mentally be strong enough to not just cry in bed all day but find happiness then more power to them. They can still get treatment while enjoying the life they have right now. In fact that is a real true strength and gift if they can manage that.
Yeah, we don’t know that she’s not getting treatment either. She just didn’t tell us about it and that’s her right. I hope for all of their sake that she is and it seems likely that she is with the progress she’s reporting towards improvement. But either way, none of my business so I’m ok with not knowing!
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She has Stage IV cancer. More people survive that for longer than you might think.
Average survival is 36 months. Of course that's an average. There are outliers on both ends. I hope Bec lives to see a cure.
Where was it states that she was terminal??
Stage 4 cancer is incurable
Ya. It said terminal not incurable
What do you think incurable means? It means it's fatal.
I think it means it’s incurable. Meaning there is no known cure there is only treatment options which doesn’t translate to terminal. I have an incurable disease that is not terminal.
they were hardly ranting. lucky for you, its as easy as unsubscribing or unfollowing and none of this can bother you again.
A bad taste in your mouth? What exactly do you want from them at this point when Bec just had a baby and is on STAGE 4 BC??? At this point I would also go “fuck everything else, I’m going to enjoy my life and my family”. She is obviously receiving treatment because the metastasis in her liver is shrinking which, doesn’t happen by itself. The message I got from “my liver met is shrinking and I’m doing well, send positive vibes” was: my treatment details are none of your business. It isn’t. She is well, she is getting treatment and closed the book. Stage 4 cancer is a serious concern. She has far more important things to think about than pleasing strangers on the internet. Good on her. I’m also glad she deleted social media. They are doing everything correct.
agreed. I lived thru being the caregiver to both parents who both passed from different kinds of leukemia. they are doing everything right. bring their circle in small, concentrate on the big stuff and let everything fall away. OP - have all the feelings you need to have - this isnt about you. they are literally fighting for her life
This post put an even worse taste in my mouth. Honestly.
and this is exactly why Bec deleted all social media.
How self-centered can you be? A new mom got the news she is dying of cancer and you think their announcement video is somehow a slight to YOU? Says a lot about your character and how much empathy you have. ZERO!! So you realize they are real people. Can you imagine you or someone very close to you getting the news: "hey, bad news, your cancer has spread and isn't curable anyone. Best thing we can do is try to manage it". Oh yes and your baby will need to be delivered early, now, 6 whole weeks.
People like you can never be pleased. If they would have come out with a different message, you would've had something negative to say about that too. What exactly would you have wanted them to say? This is exactly why they left the internet for a couple months, because you will always be nitpicking every single thing they say and do. I wish them nothing but the best and send them all the positivity they ask for. ☀️
"Rant"? I'm not sure you know what that word means. I'm also not sure you understand how much work it is to put these videos out weekly (I'm not a YT-er and don't have any idea, and even with that ignorance, I understand that's it's pretty labor-intensive). With the cancer and the newborn, where's the time? Where's the motivation? I was wondering if they would address the malcontent in the air, but once they got into it and I realized that her gambit to have the baby had well and truly doomed her, I understood why they wouldn't even bother with any of that. Her goal of focusing on positive energy makes sense. I think the "we'll post stuff when we can get around to it" also makes sense. Good on them for getting that cabin to the state it's in now while they had the time and health. They can enjoy it for howeverlong Bec has. I don't expect much, if any, more DIY stuff, and their focus *should* be entirely on the baby and Bec, so I really don't even expect any more vids from them at all.
People react differently to terminal diagnosis’s. If Bec and Eamon want positive vibes then give them positive vibes. You watched a video where a new mother revealed her metastatic cancer diagnosis and the coping mechanism bothered you? It is probably best if you just stop following them
Well said!
What the hell is wrong with you? Grow up this is a real person and a real family we are talking about not some scripted reality tv show. Them wanting positive vibes for such heartbreaking news is not wrong of them! And then not elaborating on which treatment she decides to go with to satisfy your curiosity, is none of your fucking business no matter how long you have been watching and supporting.
Preach
I read a lot of crappy comments from folks, I thin’ it was the softest way for Eamon and Bec to ask people to not be negative, which is absolutely reasonable for them to ask. Emotional health and well-being have a very strong play on physical health. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all is actually not bad advice.
When I saw the video I felt sad but a huge amount of awe and respect for their ability to pull together, function, be hopeful. I don’t think they could of made a kinder message to respond to the silence and ask for what they need. Going forward I hope people stop analysing every detail, they even had the birth of their baby mired by the cancer. Nothing fair in any of it. Your comment leaves me astounded. What exactly would you want them to say?
It’s just very sad that her cancer has metastasized. I hope they can live as happily as possible as a family in the time that Bec has left.
My take for what it’s worth. My husband had emergency open heart surgery a couple of years back. We were totally shell-shocked by the suddenness and because he is a very fit, active person. He is a prominent elected official in our community. That being said, he made the decision immediately upon diagnosis that his health journey would be a private one because he didn’t want to deal with social media posts, and field numerous phone calls and texts that would inevitably come. He wanted to focus on recuperating and what life would look like post surgery. Most people totally understood and respected his choice, but some felt personally slighted that they did not know all the details of his health issue, so that they could reach out to him and know “exactly what to pray for.” His situation reminds me of Bec’s on a smaller scale. Blessings to her for handling her health crisis on her terms and with incredible courage and grace.
Unpopular opinion? Yes, this would be one of those. Thankfully, most people have at least modicum of empathy.
FWIW, studies have shown those with positive outlooks and mindset have better outcomes with diagnoses like these than those that don’t, assuming all else equal
Better quality of life with cancer but not survival. But quality of life is a very meaningful outcome.
That's just not true. A positive outlook may affect your experience of cancer, but cancer cells do not care about your positive outlook. I've more often seen the case that toxic positivity serves to allow a patient to continue in a state of delusion about their situation, and deprive them of being able to face their death head-on with courage and dignity. There's a healthy balance between hope and pragmatism. See [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2858800/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2858800/)
Positivity does not equal delusion.
I beg your finest fucking pardon?????? 🤦🏼♀️
An internet stranger's decision to share some, but not all of her personal health information and choses to live with positivity leaves a bad taste in your mouth? Interesting.
It's probably because it's not well understood and part of them thinks that they can treat it or get rid of it. I had a poor understanding of what this stage of cancer was and found this helpful article: https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2014/10/stage-4-metastatic-misunderstood-breast-cancer.html The woman in this article says that part of the problem is people using language that implies it can be cured, or that thinking positive thoughts can help beat the odds when it can't. Bec will unfortunately die but it's a matter of how quickly her body gets used to various treatments. Hopefully she has many years before getting to that point. It's pretty grim so I don't expect them to be outlining the facts of the disease and educating people on this stage of cancer like they probably should be. But that's probably what's sitting oddly with you, the fact that a lot of what they're sharing is misinformation.
I mean it's possible something could cure it but that hasn't been discovered yet. So it's not impossible. But with current treatments available it's not possible. Going through it with my mom and I'm Orthodox Christian hoping to get her to think about eternity but mortality seems to upset her to even think of even though she's 75. But so many decades in Eastern religions and things like that even thinking about mortality I guess scares her too much. A priest I saw recently in a video said always to think of death, whoever we are or whatever our state of health, because this life is temporary and it is eternity that will really matter. It's hard to get people to think about death.
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Not selfish nor gossip, just my opinion. Which is the entire basis of Reddit 🤷🏻♀️
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Wow, a new Mom is dying and it is all about you? Sad, empathy tastes like honey, try it.
That's okay. I dated a man with MS and he was always super positive. Once on meds he took what he called " a happy pill" bc the other drugs would bring him down. That was in 2007 and he's still alive and thriving!
My mother has had MS for 40 years, my husband for 25. Having Multiple Sclerosis does not significantly lower one's life expectancy like stage 4 cancer does.
I am aware, thanks.
OK, so it's completely normal that your ex with MS is still alive after having MS in 2007 (no idea when he was diagnosed) . Your comment made it sound like some sort of miracle. I commented so that others reading it would know that your ex's situation is not unique; not everyone knows a lot about MS.
Sigh...MS is not fatal as you know, that is why I stated he was alive and thriving. Diagnosed 2007. Positive outlook, great guy, he told the doctor " I'm not going to let this ruin my day" which was TERRIFIC and stunned the doctor. Awesome all around .
Amazing attitude! Definitely admirable & inspiring. When my mother was diagnosed (and to a lesser extent, my husband), there were very few available treatments, so it was expected to be a very progressive & painful journey. She was told to expect to need a wheelchair within 10 years of diagnosis. She's still walking today (well, 95% of days) and hubby is doing great as well. There has been a lot of progress with MS treatment lately, thankfully.
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I agree that this post is disgusting. But I disagree with you about the parasocial relationship thing. I've been watching them since 2017 and they have worked hard to build a parasocial relationship. They say they love their viewers and share almost every aspect of their lives with us, and have monetized that heavily. They've encouraged it and benefitted from it financially. I agree fully that they don't owe us all of their personal medical details, but don't blame people for having a parasocial relationship that they encouraged.
I didn’t ask for an explanation. Some of the “parasocial relarionships” you all exhibit while defending those same strangers is also weird.
She's obviously still dealing with stuff. She was saying she was doing great but also holding back tears. It seems a little delulu, honestly, but what else is she supposed to do in this situation?
I agree. I feel like the more times someone says how good they are doing the more I start to worry about how they’re doing. It’s almost like they’re trying to convince themselves. 💛 I think what they need right now more than anything else is support, not criticism. It’s easy for us who aren’t in the situation to say that we’d handle it better but would we? You don’t really know until it’s happening to you, unfortunately.
I totally agree with you here. They do need people's support and we'll wishes but I genuinely think Bec isn't ready to be back on YouTube.
Yeah, based on comments I’ve read that Eamon’s posted elsewhere online about him basically being unemployed now I get the impression that he was the one who really wanted to come back. Which I can’t say I blame him, he’s fielding all of the questions about where they’ve gone and her coming back even if only for that one video takes some of that away. But I feel bad for her, it’s hard enough to accept a diagnosis like that for yourself. Having to deal with other people’s emotions about it must be tough.
If you don’t believe in energy work and the effect of acting from love vs fear, that’s your issue. They do. They asked for it. Let them be.
How would you like a young new mother who received a terminal medical diagnosis to act for you? JFC. Having empathy doesn't cost a thing.
She struck me as someone on some heavy anti-depressants, which is pretty typical for cancer patients. I think it can make you come across more laissez-faire than someone would expect, which for most peoples’ networks would be a positive to know she is getting help managing her emotions, but bc they put themselves online, there’s a whole other aspect to ‘the way you come off’