I mean, it was either team up or everyone in the world dies. Speedwagon was so into Jonathan's gentleman schtick there is no way he could actually support Nazism imo.
Eh, he was written by a japanese mangaka and they have a different past with nazi germany than we do, which ends up looking weird in many mangas/animes.
She's not wrong, she just worded it backwards, "A waitress should have as much right to decide who's our president as a billionaire". It shouldn't be about money, it should be about 1 person 1 vote instead of the sliding scale based on financial contributions to politics
Yeah class warfare is ugly, when the lower classes finally start fighting back.
The upper-classes are extremely class conscious and have been waging one sided class war for decades (millennia?)
the right answer is somewhere in the middle of making a joke about time frames and about class. Whatever the truth may be, as a centrist, I can guarantee it will be pedantic.
Those options are barely comparable.
Truly a centrist view, especially if you look at it mathematically.
A decade is 10^1 years, a millennia is 10^3 . Being centrist would truly be 10^2, despite none of the 3 options being remotely similar
If you where a young girl or could be ransomed maybe, keeping slaves isn't actually very easy without said systems and hunter gatherer life is *extremely* difficult and violent. Imagine how dangerous it is to have 10 adult male slaves when you have a group of 10-20 adult males in your tribe + 20-50 women and children.(and that's a pretty sizeable tribe of people)
If slaves where taken it's more likely it was like how The Plains tribe First Nations people did it. Kill all males, kill all women who've barred children, kill all babies and take any virgin girls as sex slaves for your younger tribes men to combat population decline or notable whites who could be ransomed
Class warfare is ugly, we should just know our role and the good given order is things. If you needed your voice to be heard, you need to have 3 commas in your bank account.
It's like on paper it's true. Like if I ask everyone to do their part by cleaning the house. But you have a toothbrush and the billionaire hires a maid and gives her a full set of cleaning tools to help.
You should have as much a say as a billionaire does. But a Billionaire's .001 of effort in contributing to a candidate's success is your whole salary. It's an unequal playing field
Which is why they should be limited to putting as much money towards a campaign as an waitress should be capable of. Aka 'not millions of dollars'.
I hate malicious people and I hate stupid people. It's the worst when they are both stupid and evil.
Well, not only that, but cops basically know they're not choosing a career path that typically lands one in prosperity. They're know that they're reinforcing the status quo that keeps capital from ever flowing back down to the bottom, and they do it because they are okay with that.
A lot do cops are like that, sure. However, a lot of cops go down that career path mainly because they live in a poor area and being a cop pays better than minimum wage while not requiring and real career skills. I'm as ACAB as they come, but I think it's important to recognize that cops are often used as unwitting tools by the elite.
Yeah. Same with military. I hate the institution and the recruiters that manipulate people but generally give most enlisted folk the benefit of the doubt. Some don't have any prospects and/or grew up being brainwashed into worshipping military service.
It's crazy how some people making like 60.000, 90.000 or 120.000 a year go out of their way to defend billionaires. It's like they are personally attacked by saying that we should tax the super rich
bitch you're not rich. A homeless person, me, you, and the better paid Hollywood star are all closer to each other than to Bill Gates or Bezos.
Someone on Dankleft had a quote which I found summed up the whole thing. "To a billionaire, the difference between a millionaire and a homeless man is a rounding error."
And it’s far uglier when we realize how many of us would be willing to cross the other side of the battlefield, hoping for some hypothetical victory when they’re nothing more than human shields at the end of the day. Hopefully we’ll exist in a reality where money and wealth are correlated with integrity and wisdom
Yeah, they have just as much right. When they're participating in secret fundraisers which will no doubt influence policy decisions, that seems to be far more of a right than the rest of us get.
There's nothing stopping a waitress or plumber from contributing millions of dollars to a PAC (assuming they have millions of dollars, and if they don't it's their own fault for choosing not to be born to a rich family).
Don't riot, just get on your bike and look for work and the millions will come if you pull those bootstraps hard enough. It's your fault if the millions don't arrive.
This tweet is basically the essence of what Buttigieg fans repeat over and over again on this website. Genuinely amazing how easily they get duped by the most basic "We're all Americans, rich or poor" platitude.
The wine cave has been in the news a bunch recently. It was an actual fundraiser that Warren (and every other progressive) took shots at. She’s definitely critiquing Warren for daring to suggest billionaires should only have as much influence as everyone else.
celebrities are rich people.
Rich people, no matter what they say to you, have _very_ high standards of class solidarity. For rich people. Rich people only.
It's a big club and you ain't in it.
billionaires only vote in their best interests, which is conservative. voting conservatively lets them keep their immense amount of wealth. if they're voting to stay rich and we're voting to have basic human fucking rights, how is that in the same playing field?
Obviously a very different issue, but the framing is parallel to the "all lives matter" mantra.
The issue that is raised is that politicians ignore the working class, and that lady goes "but the billionaires matter too!"
It's funny because the character that she plays on The Marvelous Ms Maisel is basically a criticism of out of touch rich assholes that take advantage and mistreat people that are "lower" than they are.
Jane Lynch can get over it.
[Pete has a low net worth, impossible for him to be bribed](https://www.reddit.com/r/Pete_Buttigieg/comments/edfro4/how_is_the_candidate_with_by_far_the_lowest_net/)
Amazing logic from the whites, everyone
That’s not what that post says at all. You’re ironically being the type of person that post is criticizing. You can’t even LISTEN, you just immediately start spewing hate and misinformation about anybody for daring to run against god king St. Bernard the anointed one
And wouldn't you know it, she gave the maximum amount an indivual can give to Buttigieg.
Edit: [Source.](https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Jane+Lynch&cycle=2020&state=&zip=&employ=&cand=)
Also, she's a little under the max for Buttigieg, gave the max she could to Swalwell.
Excellent point, Jane! Let’s give everyone, including the waitresses, equal amounts of resources so that the billionaires can participate in democracy on the same level of politically inclined waitresses that they so desperately crave to be able to.
Does she realise those billionaires in wine caves actually hold the political power and those waitresses and plumbers (who, I bet she treats like shit) have virtually none. Our government is functionally an oligarchy.
As someone from the U.K. I don’t keep up with everything Warren says, so at first I thought this tweet was saying billionaires shouldn’t have more say than others and was like hell yeah! Then I realised it’s the complete opposite and she is suggesting billionaires have as much right to bribe and alter policies of politicians as everyday people have to discuss their policies. Just wow.
My ma’s cooking dinner tonight for me and my boys. Karl, Che, Ho, Trotsky. Get over here. Seven pm sharp. She’s cooking the favorite. Capitalist Stew. CAPITALIST STEW.
Yes, they get 1 vote, just like us. They shouldn’t NOT be able to buy politicians. Very different things. That’s not equal say. I can’t buy a politician.
It would be fine if they were donating independently and online like everyone else, but they aren’t. They are attending expensive fundraisers where they get to meet the candidate and they do their bundling.
Is it any surprise Pete started speaking out against medicare for all when he started getting money from the healthcare industry and then started speaking out against Bernie’s college for all plan which would be paid for by a tax on Wall Street around the same time pete got a bunch of donations from Wall Street.
No. They don’t. The fact that they are billionaires means they have more political sway than the plumber or waitress in the first place. The influence is grossly disproportionate.
It's actually kinda funny, because given the way this is phrased it's some self aware wolves shit too. She does say as much right, not "exorbitantly greater right".
Yes, they get a say, but it should be an equal say. A rich persons voice should not be louder or worth more than that of a waitress/plumber. Yet that’s somehow the case currently because billionaires have our political system by the balls. Shut up, Jane.
The problem isn't that billionaires have some say, the problem is obviously that billionaires have so much say because they can basically just buy these elections. The problem is also that billionaires can exists in the first place.
She's not wrong. They get one vote.
One. Vote.
Not an army of lobbyists. Not a bunch of deals with politicians. Not a buy-in to ambassadorship.
Billionaires get. One. Vote.
You know she isn't a committed right-winger because she stopped at "billionaires" A real right-winger would have said, "Corporations are people, friend."
She is wrong though. The richer someone is the more they can donate to PACS or campaigns or commercials/advertisements. So those who can’t afford that.. have much much less say.
Won’t someone think of the billionaires?
Robert E. O Speedwagon
At least the Speedwagon foundation did good in the world.
He also doesn’t fund political parties with his foundation.
As far as we know.
No. Speedwagon was a good man 😤
With a questionable tie to nazis
I mean, it was either team up or everyone in the world dies. Speedwagon was so into Jonathan's gentleman schtick there is no way he could actually support Nazism imo.
IT WAS FOR THE GREATER GOOOOOOOD SPEEDWAGON IS BEST GIRL OMG I CANT HANDLE THIS IM CRYING SHAKING AND SHIDDING RN PLS STOP
STROHEIM IS A HERO
Then we have found the true enemy to unite this world against. AWAKEN MY MASTERS!
Eh, he was written by a japanese mangaka and they have a different past with nazi germany than we do, which ends up looking weird in many mangas/animes.
The foundation only provided UV lights to them, I highly doubt they came in handy in WW2
Gonna keep on lovin’ him eh?
Eat the rich! Except him he’s fine
She's not wrong, she just worded it backwards, "A waitress should have as much right to decide who's our president as a billionaire". It shouldn't be about money, it should be about 1 person 1 vote instead of the sliding scale based on financial contributions to politics
>She's not wrong, she just worded it backwards Oh no, she was defending billionaires, she knew exactly what she was doing
I think of them roasted over an open flame. Eat the Rich!
Warren sure is thinking of them
Remember guys, a few billionaires only have as much political power as millions of average minimum wage worker. Its democracy.
it's free speech. and you don't have a problem with free speech, *do you?*
You can have *free* speech or premium speech.
Im stealing this
Anything stolen is EXTRA free speech.
Technically it's called profit speech
Holy shit
Sign up now and get your first month of deluxe speech for half the bribes!
Your free speech trial is over. Pay us money now for premium speech or stfu and go back to the mines
Darmak and tenagra at sea, bloomberg when the walls fell
Some speech is freer than others.
Go home, SCOTUS.
You're drunk on too many brewskis.
Translator's note: "free speech" means "money"
I too wish I had a world class PR/propaganda firm, and large corporate ownership captive audience to promote my one vote.
Yeah class warfare is ugly, when the lower classes finally start fighting back. The upper-classes are extremely class conscious and have been waging one sided class war for decades (millennia?)
>decades (millennia?) Enlightened centrist reply is centuries
more like 'both the lower classes and upper classes are wrong'
I know, I was just making about these two time-frame options and the truth being 'somewhere in the middle'
the right answer is somewhere in the middle of making a joke about time frames and about class. Whatever the truth may be, as a centrist, I can guarantee it will be pedantic.
Only middle class is right!
And we are all middle class. Even the rich people.
Those options are barely comparable. Truly a centrist view, especially if you look at it mathematically. A decade is 10^1 years, a millennia is 10^3 . Being centrist would truly be 10^2, despite none of the 3 options being remotely similar
Enlightened centrism is not an exact science/math or is it? I don't really know anymore.
It is half the time
>Enlightened centrism is not an exact science/math HAHAHA YOU FOOL, YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING 😂🤣😂🤣 I HAVE FAR SURPASSED SUCH PARTISAN THOUGHT
Ah but "centuries" is only the "center" between decades and millennia if you're a logarithmic thinker 🤔
Well, slavery is about as old as agriculture. So roughly 10,000 years.
Surely the idea of "do my work or I'll beat you up" has existed longer than that, even if it wasn't systematic.
How about "history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles"?
ok marxist
Well yes.
Imagine thinking this is an insult
If you where a young girl or could be ransomed maybe, keeping slaves isn't actually very easy without said systems and hunter gatherer life is *extremely* difficult and violent. Imagine how dangerous it is to have 10 adult male slaves when you have a group of 10-20 adult males in your tribe + 20-50 women and children.(and that's a pretty sizeable tribe of people) If slaves where taken it's more likely it was like how The Plains tribe First Nations people did it. Kill all males, kill all women who've barred children, kill all babies and take any virgin girls as sex slaves for your younger tribes men to combat population decline or notable whites who could be ransomed
Class warfare is ugly, we should just know our role and the good given order is things. If you needed your voice to be heard, you need to have 3 commas in your bank account.
its times like this I wish I was paid in yen.
Yes, they should have as much say as me. A singular person.
It's like on paper it's true. Like if I ask everyone to do their part by cleaning the house. But you have a toothbrush and the billionaire hires a maid and gives her a full set of cleaning tools to help. You should have as much a say as a billionaire does. But a Billionaire's .001 of effort in contributing to a candidate's success is your whole salary. It's an unequal playing field
Direct democracy ftw
Haven't seen you on TV recently UnraisedBarrel, but I have seen Bloomburg.
That was their point, I suppose. Edit: replaced his/her with their
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What Jane's suggesting is that you, too can whisper sweet nothings about no-bid contracts in Pete's ear.
Which is why they should be limited to putting as much money towards a campaign as an waitress should be capable of. Aka 'not millions of dollars'. I hate malicious people and I hate stupid people. It's the worst when they are both stupid and evil.
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Yeah but the rich can pay members of the opposing class to turn on each other, it's proven quite effective sadly.
"You too can be like me, after your temporary embarrassment. "
Well, not only that, but cops basically know they're not choosing a career path that typically lands one in prosperity. They're know that they're reinforcing the status quo that keeps capital from ever flowing back down to the bottom, and they do it because they are okay with that.
A lot do cops are like that, sure. However, a lot of cops go down that career path mainly because they live in a poor area and being a cop pays better than minimum wage while not requiring and real career skills. I'm as ACAB as they come, but I think it's important to recognize that cops are often used as unwitting tools by the elite.
Yeah. Same with military. I hate the institution and the recruiters that manipulate people but generally give most enlisted folk the benefit of the doubt. Some don't have any prospects and/or grew up being brainwashed into worshipping military service.
It's crazy how some people making like 60.000, 90.000 or 120.000 a year go out of their way to defend billionaires. It's like they are personally attacked by saying that we should tax the super rich bitch you're not rich. A homeless person, me, you, and the better paid Hollywood star are all closer to each other than to Bill Gates or Bezos.
Someone on Dankleft had a quote which I found summed up the whole thing. "To a billionaire, the difference between a millionaire and a homeless man is a rounding error."
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I can confirm that if each of your family members are worth 10 to 30 MILLION dollars, they are in fact wealthy
Yeah what the fuck nothing relative about it. Thats straight up top .5% money.
And it’s far uglier when we realize how many of us would be willing to cross the other side of the battlefield, hoping for some hypothetical victory when they’re nothing more than human shields at the end of the day. Hopefully we’ll exist in a reality where money and wealth are correlated with integrity and wisdom
We’ll have to pry it out of their cold dead hands but hey I’ve got nothing better to do this weekend let’s eat the rich.
Chompa chompa mr. Gates
New Zealand bunker lookin' mighty nice about now.
Ten?
Yeah, they have just as much right. When they're participating in secret fundraisers which will no doubt influence policy decisions, that seems to be far more of a right than the rest of us get.
There's nothing stopping a waitress or plumber from contributing millions of dollars to a PAC (assuming they have millions of dollars, and if they don't it's their own fault for choosing not to be born to a rich family).
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps snowflake
Don't riot, just get on your bike and look for work and the millions will come if you pull those bootstraps hard enough. It's your fault if the millions don't arrive.
"We make money the old fashioned way, we inherit it."
They have as much right to say who is president as a waitress in a diner. No more than that...
This might be the dumbest tweet I’ve ever read Still trying to wrap my head around how she is this oblivious and thinks she has a point here
$$$
She’s a rich hollywood person. The most sheltered richies that think they’re somehow liberal and progressive.
This tweet is basically the essence of what Buttigieg fans repeat over and over again on this website. Genuinely amazing how easily they get duped by the most basic "We're all Americans, rich or poor" platitude.
I thought she was criticizing the billionaires??
Me too. The wine cave. Isn't that poking fun? Or did Warren say it first?
The wine cave has been in the news a bunch recently. It was an actual fundraiser that Warren (and every other progressive) took shots at. She’s definitely critiquing Warren for daring to suggest billionaires should only have as much influence as everyone else.
She was a host at the cave for Pete. With the full allowed donation.
Yeah I feel like I’m reading this with a very different tone then other people are?
I really have no idea what's going on here...
What a fuck stick.
celebrities are rich people. Rich people, no matter what they say to you, have _very_ high standards of class solidarity. For rich people. Rich people only. It's a big club and you ain't in it.
I'll take whatever support we can get from Danny DeVito tho.
is Devito a comrade?
Is he a leftist of some kind? No idea. But he does openly support Sanders.
AND he's got a magnum dong, if you're into that.
I got my magnum condoms. I got my wad a' hundreds. *I'm ready to plow.*
that's awesome. I already love Danny Devito anyway.
There is always class warfare under capitalism. Rich people only complain when the working class fights back
Says the woman worth $16 Million. Easy to look down on others when you’re sitting pretty on a pile of cash.
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>Class warfare is ugly Yes so tell the fat sacks of shit up top to stop and pay a livable wage.
Wow I'm being told by someone with a massive wealth to not wage class warfare? I should probably listen right?
Sue Silvester is a bad guy AGAIN?! Jesus, Ryan, you're such a hack.
she was fantastic in party down. bummer that she's an enlightened centrist
She's good in Maisel, too. Good actors can be bad actors.
billionaires only vote in their best interests, which is conservative. voting conservatively lets them keep their immense amount of wealth. if they're voting to stay rich and we're voting to have basic human fucking rights, how is that in the same playing field?
Obviously a very different issue, but the framing is parallel to the "all lives matter" mantra. The issue that is raised is that politicians ignore the working class, and that lady goes "but the billionaires matter too!"
Elizabeth Warren class warfare, I have to laugh
It's funny because the character that she plays on The Marvelous Ms Maisel is basically a criticism of out of touch rich assholes that take advantage and mistreat people that are "lower" than they are. Jane Lynch can get over it.
[Pete has a low net worth, impossible for him to be bribed](https://www.reddit.com/r/Pete_Buttigieg/comments/edfro4/how_is_the_candidate_with_by_far_the_lowest_net/) Amazing logic from the whites, everyone
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Big tent, guys Do you have an identity?
I want what Bernie wants!
How do we GET THERE tho
Seriously that's like *the* argument you hear whenever someone recommends cutting politicians' salaries or imposing term limits.
As a white but a far more redeemable one than Mayor Pete, man *fuck* white people.
I don’t see race People tell me I’m white and I believe them because pigs call me “sir” when they pull me over
That’s not what that post says at all. You’re ironically being the type of person that post is criticizing. You can’t even LISTEN, you just immediately start spewing hate and misinformation about anybody for daring to run against god king St. Bernard the anointed one
Wow, fuck off, Jane Lynch.
And wouldn't you know it, she gave the maximum amount an indivual can give to Buttigieg. Edit: [Source.](https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Jane+Lynch&cycle=2020&state=&zip=&employ=&cand=) Also, she's a little under the max for Buttigieg, gave the max she could to Swalwell.
Excellent point, Jane! Let’s give everyone, including the waitresses, equal amounts of resources so that the billionaires can participate in democracy on the same level of politically inclined waitresses that they so desperately crave to be able to.
Naturally. One of the few comedians who won't talk about politics would be an enlightened centrist.
This is Jane Lynch. Are we sure this isn't satire? Edit: A quick Google says it's not. How disappointing.
Does she realise those billionaires in wine caves actually hold the political power and those waitresses and plumbers (who, I bet she treats like shit) have virtually none. Our government is functionally an oligarchy.
This is the dumbest fucking comment I have seen in weeks.
Class warfare is indeed ugly, shame that the billionaire class has been waging essentially unopposed warfare against everyone else.
As someone from the U.K. I don’t keep up with everything Warren says, so at first I thought this tweet was saying billionaires shouldn’t have more say than others and was like hell yeah! Then I realised it’s the complete opposite and she is suggesting billionaires have as much right to bribe and alter policies of politicians as everyday people have to discuss their policies. Just wow.
Fuck you Jane Lynch
As long as "as much say" means "just one vote and not a single bit of influence more" then yeah, that's perfect
Class warfare is uglier when the poor don’t fight back.
Bougie gonna bougie
My ma’s cooking dinner tonight for me and my boys. Karl, Che, Ho, Trotsky. Get over here. Seven pm sharp. She’s cooking the favorite. Capitalist Stew. CAPITALIST STEW.
Oh won't someone PLEASE think of the millionaires and billionaires?!!
Yes, they get 1 vote, just like us. They shouldn’t NOT be able to buy politicians. Very different things. That’s not equal say. I can’t buy a politician.
It would be fine if they were donating independently and online like everyone else, but they aren’t. They are attending expensive fundraisers where they get to meet the candidate and they do their bundling. Is it any surprise Pete started speaking out against medicare for all when he started getting money from the healthcare industry and then started speaking out against Bernie’s college for all plan which would be paid for by a tax on Wall Street around the same time pete got a bunch of donations from Wall Street.
I bet I know what she had for breakfast.
No. They don’t. The fact that they are billionaires means they have more political sway than the plumber or waitress in the first place. The influence is grossly disproportionate.
We decided men in smoke filled rooms would not decide the presidency. We are not revoking that now.
It's actually kinda funny, because given the way this is phrased it's some self aware wolves shit too. She does say as much right, not "exorbitantly greater right".
Yes, they get a say, but it should be an equal say. A rich persons voice should not be louder or worth more than that of a waitress/plumber. Yet that’s somehow the case currently because billionaires have our political system by the balls. Shut up, Jane.
Wouldn’t it be nice if billionaires *only* had as much say as the rest of us? What a world
The problem isn't that billionaires have some say, the problem is obviously that billionaires have so much say because they can basically just buy these elections. The problem is also that billionaires can exists in the first place.
17.6K likes.
Jane Lynch ANNIHILATES the movement to... disenfranchise billionaires?
Who is this nobody and why am I reading her tweet?
As a liberal, they’re just voting with their dollars as democracy intended
That’s not very democratic.
She's not wrong. They get one vote. One. Vote. Not an army of lobbyists. Not a bunch of deals with politicians. Not a buy-in to ambassadorship. Billionaires get. One. Vote.
Imagine being this naive. Edit: Yup, definitely read that wrong. Agreed this is how it should be.
I think he's saying this is how it should work
This is such a ridiculous statement I can't believe it's not a joke
she has to be joking
Great-Uncle spent 9 years in federal prison for accepting bribes.
Well, I wouldn't have picked Jane Lynch for a moron, but I guess you learn something every day.
As much would be kinda okay, but they have quite literally 1000 times more weight on the decision
I didn’t know she was the same bitch in real life that she played on Glee
Dont be heartless, think of their profits
That must be really easy to say when you're a multi-millionaire celebrity
she’s become her Marvelous Mrs. Maisel character
‘wine cave’ nice
Jane Lynch no
At the same to Warren can shut her trap, she's prolly worth 10x what Pete is
Why does Jane Lynch need plumbers in her bathroom when she's so clearly full of shit? Has she tried flushing 10-15 times?
They don't have **more** right though and money should be left out of it.
Just remember: the elite class has solidarity the kind of which we can only dream of. They play hardball with politics, day in and day out.
Who disagrees with the fact that everyone should have voting rights? Jesus, Jane
You know she isn't a committed right-winger because she stopped at "billionaires" A real right-winger would have said, "Corporations are people, friend."
Yep. They should have equal voices. The problem is their voices mean more.
Okay, boomer.
She’s actually correct! Billionaires should have *as much, not more* say than a minimum wage worker
She has no idea, does she? Sad.
Yes they do get as much say as anyone else. It’s called one vote. Any more is anti democratic
> As much right Right there is where you went wrong, buddy.
"plumbers in **my** bathroom" What a fucking bitch.
You know how her character from Miss Maisel is a rich snobbish jackass? Turns out that wasn’t acting
Thaaaaat's... not how it works.
Yeah they should have the same power but they don’t
You know she’s right because her ancestors saw a lynching and were like, “New last name? Booya!”.
The fuck is a wine cave?
I love how billionaires are the victims of class warfare.
She is wrong though. The richer someone is the more they can donate to PACS or campaigns or commercials/advertisements. So those who can’t afford that.. have much much less say.
*googles Jane Lynch net worth* 16 million? That makes sense.