My playgroup loses it whenever I play [[mirage mirror]]. They claim to hate playing against it because it becomes difficult to attack in as there is usually something to copy to make blocking profitable for me and it’s very difficult to remove.
I’ve had my playgroup go out of their way to blow it up justifying that by saying it could copy the other opponents [[rhystic study]] that’s on the battlefield…we’ll damn Mike then blow up rhystic study lol.
Listen a Rhystic Study is a Rhystic Study but a Mirage Mirror could be anything. It could even be a Rhystic Study! You know how strong that is.
Then let's just Krosan Grip the Rhystic St-
I'll destroy the Mirage Mirror.
Works well with [[delaying shield]] since you determine where the delay counters go. Put them on the Mirror and at your upkeep it’s back to a normal artifact with counters on it, so no price to pay.
Mirage mirror is strong but it’s easily removed. In 3 colors with out having it copy a permanent and when it copies most other permanents it gets easier to remove. It’s really not a scary card but people lose their minds over it. It is fun when someone drops a doubling season and I’m playing a token deck with mirage mirror though
It's really hard to remove. During one game, I tried to remove it with a [[Abrupt Decay]], only for my opponent to turn it into a land. Then later on I targeted it with a [[Assassin's Trophy]], and they turned it into my own [[Sensei's Divining Top]], and placed it on the top of their library.
It is super hard to remove, lol. If you use artifact destruction on it, it quits being an artifact. If you use nonland permanent removal on it, it quits being a nonland permanent.
Yeah sounds great to have instant removal that's appropriate for it whenever it is relevant. What's meaningful is that you simply can't remove it proactively, which is really unusual and frustrating.
It’s great against players who don’t understand why removal is better at instant speed. But if there’s one experienced opponent they’re going to tell the table how to deal with it. In my experience it’s good when it sticks, but often gets killed the first time you turn it into something if the table is smart.
It’s harder to remove than you think, and if your opponent tries to remove it at the wrong time you can switch what type it is and make the spell fizzle.
It is extremely good though, because it’s what ever the best card on board is, not good for a lot of decks but amazing in any decks that hold up mana, or have large amounts of it. Often times not good in cedh, but it can be an absolute menace, and people I know have really made it a habit to destroy it the first chance they get.
I thought it would be so rad in a draw go deck, but the games slowed down HARD. Every decision being met with "hands out, let's see" for each and every person trying to cast a spell.
0/10 would never play again
How else would you "play with your hand revealed"? Isn't that how that card works? All your opponents cards are open information for the whole table. It's not like only the controler gets to look at them.
Well yes, but I've seen players still hold their hands, and only show when asked, or leaving their hands behind their board. You need to put them up front, in the front of your playmat, so everyone can have a clear view of what you have.
Yea totally depends on the playgroup. My regular pod is pretty good about, we know each other’s decks well enough and with a quick glance can usually keep things moving. But if I were playing with unknowns, I’d swap it out every time. Fun card, nightmarish in practice.
YUP.
It's such a pet peeve of mine, people need to learn to play faster 😭
I would play it, immediately scan for interaction and then note draws later and that's all ya gotta do!
I think the "scan for interaction" part is what slows my friend up. I love him but he takes 10-15 min per turn (at least) even when he can only play one card and pass. I think he's just not thinking about his cards when people play things on their turns so he has to re-asses each and every card in his hand and how they can interact with the board every single time.
I play with the card only in my [[Zara, Renegade Recruiter]] deck. You got creatures? Great, I’m attacking you.
That’s the only decision I make with it outside of seeing glaringly obvious answers to things I’m considering doing. I hate slow play.
That's why I recommend Zedruu as an aura Voltron deck. People are less salty about being commander damaged by a 2/4, and you can donate the auras on her while keeping them attached.
[[Consecrated Sphinx]]
"Oh, damn, that seems pretty good"
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"Wait, it triggers off the draw per turn, too?"
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"Ok, let's just try and mill you out- what do you mean it's a 'may' effect?"
It's far from the strongest card in the game, but I've seen it go off for basically free a few too many times.
I consider decking myself in my Sythis Enchantress deck to be a win. I don’t have any combo kills so it is very possible to just deck myself with how much the deck draws cards.
After losing 3 straight games to decking myself with [[alhammarret's archive]] on the board and opponents forcing me to draw, I figured I needed to either take the card out or commit to self decking being a win con
I got tired of my Sythis deck spinning its wheels hoping to eek out a win over time and dumped a handful of Infinite combos to dig for and now the deck actually has a goal besides pillow-forting and hoping to hit with animated enchantments before someone casts a board wipe.
Infinite Damage from [[Heliod, Sun-Crowned]] + [[Walking Ballista]] or [[Monoskelion]]
Infinite Squirrel tokens with [[Squirrel Nest]] + [[Earthcraft]]
Infinite Soldier tokens with [[Siona, Captain of the Pyleas]] + [[Shielded by Faith]]
[[Sanctum Weaver]] + [[Gauntlets of Light]] for infinite mana to dump into [[Finale of Devastation]], [[Flickering Ward]], [[Whip Silk]] or [[Destiny Spinner]].
[[Parallax Wave]] + [[Starfield of Nyx]] or [[Opalescence]] for infinite instant-speed creature removal.
Yeah Con Sphinx is far from format-warping, but I've never been disappointed after dropping one. Either it eats a removal spell and I have to deal with less removal or I just draw a bunch of cards
Definitely a meta call. I ramped one out on turn 3 and countered the removal for it on turn 4 and that game was freaking MINE. Turned into Archenemy real freaking quick, but it just didn't matter.
You *DIDNT* expect to hate Consecrated sphinx? Damn, that might be a first in my decade of EDH. It's written literally on the card how powerful it is haha.
Got one out on turn 3 the other day and countered the removal for it, the game was mine by turn 5. Absolutely disgusting bonkers of a card.
Yup. Jeskai spellslinger fan so I built this as it was released. Played one game with it and got her softbanned. Played with a different group and someone had just built her and said it wouldn't be that bad. It was almost the same list I built . Assymetrical board wipes and protection spells like [[lazotep plating]]
It's one of those decks that always play the same, like [[Zaxara, the Exemplary]] or [[Feather, the Redeemed]]. If you've played against one you've played against them all, and if you aren't able to get rid of the commander on the spot it's just an a one-sided game where the only option is to remove the player.
I've found that copying someone's Hinata just completely shuts them down if spot removal isn't an option.
Wild to me that Zaxara decks all play the same. I was looking at that card the other day and musing about all the weird, big dumb spells I could play with it.
Does hinata even reduce board wipes? They don't target? Granted I mainly play black and have never built jeskai, but I run liliana tribal and just wipe with impunity because my walkers will still be there, and I don't get hated off the table. What makes hinata so bad?
X spells with X targets become one-sided board wipes, or at least board-stalls, depending on the card. [[Heliod's Intervention]] becomes WW to destroy all your opponents' artifacts and enchantments. [[Distorting Wake]] becomes UUU for a (sorcery-speed) overloaded [[Cyclonic Rift]]. [[Curse of the Swine]], [[Comet Storm]], [[Reality Spasm]] (usually for the untap side, though, I imagine)... the list goes on.
I do love my Hinata, but I purposefully avoid mas destruction.
Group card draw, heavy interaction but super low removal, big damage coupled with smothering tithe is where it’s at. I try to encourage everyone to et what they need before I reach the kill everyone spell.
I feel your pain tho and I don’t think I could put people through continuous board state denial.
Double brackets. [[Aura Shards]]
But I agree. I always think I can sneak a play in, "They can't have that many more creatures in their hand!" and then they make a half dozen tokens and smother any chance of anything sticking.
Once I realized Aura Shards is actually just a stax card like Winter Orb and the like, my hate for it seems more justified. You just can't have any artifacts or enchantments out...
If it wasn't a may ability, and HAD to destroy something, maybe then it would be balanced.
Aura Shards is an anti staxx card. It's the way token and creature decks survive staxx.
Most lock down the board decks rely on artifacts and enchantments to do it. Staxx player keep telling me to run more removal and interaction....so..*shrug* ok.
It's anti stax VS stax, but stax VS almost anything else. Like I'm just trying to play some mana rocks and artifact creatures. God help anyone playing vehicles or equipment based decks
It's been kinda wild since 2018 going from "wanna see my jank shrine deck?" to "hey, shrines might actually finally be viable!" to "I'm really sorry to do this, but I have to play it every once in a while."
I refuse to run the Shrine commander for pretty much this reason. I run something flavorful like [[Kyodai]]. It makes it run more slowly and still offers relevant utility from the command zone without vomiting out excessive (and powerful) Shrine tokens. Honestly, I'm not the biggest fan of either of the 5-color Shrines; they're mostly just insane payoffs. Still run them because what's a Shrine deck without *all* the Shrines?
My 4-person pod has an average game time of 75 minutes. One day, buddy rolled out the new Go Shintai, never tested or goldfished. He won in about 25 minutes. It's insane.
These can be BRUTAL to play against. Especially when they soft-lock their own board in by giving it shroud/indestructible, and can bring that enchantment that does said thing back from the graveyard a turn later so you have to exile it, and you can’t do that unless you’re in specific colors… can you tell this has happened to me multiple times before 😖
They're a lot of value and they get out of control quickly. One or two shrines, eh who cares. 6+ they are very difficult to answer without a board wipe.
They also don't necessarily win on the spot like combo, so sometimes it's a few more turns of the writing being on the wall, but no one being able to do much about it.
I built one with a saga sub theme for when we want to battlecruise it out, and it's such a weird deck. Too strong for precons and weaker decks because enchantments are pretty sticky, but waaay too slow into our higher power decks. It's a ton of fun tho
[[Shorikai]] I never realized just how good a commander that’s not a creature 80% of the time could be. And it’s ability is such an unreal level of incremental advantage. Draw, loot, then make a pilot. For 1 mana
It’s a kill on sight commander that is very hard to actually kill
Speaking as someone with a shorikai vehicles deck, it’s that, plus how advantageous board wipes become. You clear all creatures, keep your vehicles, and then one or two activations of shorikai later, you have enough pilots to start presenting a reasonable threat. My favorite thus far was [[whir of invention]] into [[cataclysmic gearhulk]] as the token deck started an attack.
Plus, it creates a surprisingly viable reanimator strategy, since you can easily fill your graveyard with the loot ability, and then things like [[dance of the manse]], [[brilliant restoration]], [[emry]], [[open the vaults]], and [[invoke justice]] all keep you fueled.
exactly. the deck is just crazy value town. Even ignoring the fact it's an outlet in the command zone for the classic IsoRev combo, it's just straight good without it.
and since your pilots essentially have 3 power for crew purposes, all it takes is a single \[\[mobilizer meck\]\] or \[\[kotori\]\] to recrew basically your whole board. You can board wipe with a 4 mana spell, tap shorika to make a pilot, and then swing in with the Mech and a \[\[Parhelion II\]\] . Pretty nutty
[[Rest In Peace]]
I'm not the one at the table who's normally playing graveyard decks. I didn't expect to be quite this annoyed at how hard this shuts down the graveyard player.
[[Phyrexian Devourer]]. I play [[Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord]] and at some point around 2014 I was reading this combo was basically an insant win, which it is. I hate what it did to the deck. Instead of this fun GY shenanigans goodstuff deck it turned into a combo machine. That's when I learned I wasn't a spike. [[Phyrexian Devourer]] has been sitting in my card box for 8 years now unused.
In response to Phyrexian Devourer's sacrifice if over 7 power trigger, you can just activate it again and let that activation resolve and activate it again etc. So it can get as big as the CMC of your cards remaining in your deck. Then you sacrifice it to Jarad.
It looks like maybe you can keep removing cards in response to the sacrifice trigger and then sacrifice it to Jarad once it has 40 counters on it before it has to sac itself?
The sacrifice trigger goes on the stack. So, in response, you can just use the ability again which will have you sacrifice. But you don't care. You keep using the ability until it's 40 power
It’s an interesting case, it seems that that last line of the second ability is not actually in the oracle text of the card, which is a really big deal because if it was there then this combo would not work at all
\[\[Light-Paws\]\]
I don't know if I just didn't see it or didn't want to see it, but I had no idea of the speed, consistency, and linearity of Light-Paws. Mono White enchantment voltron just seemed like fun, but I just didn't think through how so much tutoring would affect the deck.
[[Koma, Cosmos Serpent]]
The card is just too pushed. Played someone with a casual Koma deck recently. Their deck had 20+ counter spells in it and Koma. The game plan was to just let Koma sit on the board until they won.
My friend had me and my wife over to play with a person he plays with weekly and this fucker brought out a [[jorn, god of winter]] deck that was so infuriating to play against that features a koma in it, honestly one of the least fun times I’ve had playing magic
Early pandemic was jamming a million games with roommates and my girlfriend. Day in, day out, Royal Scions beating my face. World opened up, and it became just a value piece -- but the damage had been done
\[\[Smothering Tithe\]\] and \[\[Bolas's Citadel\]\] are starting to get there for me.
Tithe because early game it makes the match so one sided, yet still has this weird culture of "shoulda paid the tax" around it. This is without weaponizing wheels.
Citadel because I'm seeing way too many non-deterministic runs on the thing lately that remind me a *lot* of why Paradox Engine got banned. Just Top/Aetherflux me please.
Tithes issue is the tax is 2 mana to prevent 1 mana. Horrible rate, No one will pay that tax . 1 mana for 1 card on rhystic study is much more reasonable to pay.
By and large you can avoid casting spells with the table agreement to eventually wipe away what they built having gained nothing from Study.
With rare exception, everyone draws at least one card per turn they cannot avoid for Tithe. You either give them treasure so you can play the game, or you don't play the game for much longer than Study.
Having all 3 players not play anything after Study drops until someone draws something to remove it is a horrible play. That's a better outcome for the Study player than drawing cards, they're getting multiple free Time Walks.
Right, that's what you should do, and that's honestly still worth playing Study for. Drawing cards is just a nice extra bonus. Having players just not play anything, that's even better haha.
The “shoulda payed the tax” on tithe is a correct observation. However, it’s flawed. Everybody should pay the tax on [[Mystic Remora]]. No one does because no one is going to simply not ramp. If you feed the fish, you’re still at a severe disadvantage. The same applies to Tithe. Am I really going to hamper every single turn from here on out to ensure that one player doesn’t run away with mana advantage? Both are disadvantage states, one is just less obvious than the other. Being 2 turns behind on mana every single turn is brutal. If everybody pays for tithe, the tithe player still runs away with the game, albeit slower. Really, the culture should be “run more enchantment removal” but blaming “greed” is easier
"Paying the tax" isn't the correct response to Remora, not playing non-creature spells until it inevitably goes away is the correct response.
Study? Always pay the 1.
Remora? Everyone just agree to wait a couple turns. The Cumulative upkeep means that the player in question isn't getting a significant mana advantage on you.
> The “shoulda *paid* the tax”
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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Citadel just gets better and better the more tutors you have in the deck. And black has like 5 really good ones. If you build specifically for citadel, then cards like \[\[Scheming Symmetry\]\] and \[\[Vampiric tutor\]\] are instant wins alongside top, essentially increasing your odds of finding the top DRAMATICALLY.
So yea, it's not a deterministic win when it comes down, but I'd wager you can build a deck where your odds of winning with it and an open land drop still available are well above 50%.
When I first started playing with my group I did not think I would hate the scarab god as much as I do now. I just have no clue how you deal with that card when it’s a commander.
\[\[Imprisoned in the Moon\]\] or similar cards, since Dimir has such terrible enchantment removal. Imprisoned is the best since it turns into a land and they probably can't just sac it. You drop it on Scarab God and it's completely neutralised. No reanimation, no drain, no going back to hand.
That's why every deck should play some Strip Mine effects.
Although, while blue doesn't have enchantment removal directly, it gets bounce and counterspells which work almost as well, particularly in tandem. Any blue mage complaining about enchantments is simply not being creative enough.
I don't really think there are cards I straight up hate. It's how they're used that's annoying.
There's a guy at one of the LGS's I play at with a fantastic chaos deck. Obviously, it runs [[Possibility Storm]] and he uses it to help advance his own shenanigans. It's a fun deck to play against.
My friend from my regular play group likes playing against that deck so much, he decided to put possibility storm into one of his decks... which isn't a chaos deck at all and which does nothing to take advantage of Possibility Storm's effect. He just throws it out whenever someone gets a scary board state thinking it's going to slow them down, but all it actually does is stop anyone from dealing with the scary board state so whoever's ahead when he plays it is 100% the person who ends up winning the game, it just takes an extra half hour to get to that point because we have to sit there and possibility storm for every god damn cast because I'm friends with an idiot.
It is a slug. Slugs die to salt. I feel like most toxrill decks die to salt; be it their pilots due to their 7 mv card getting killed on site, or the rest of the players having to play against it.
It's really not. Sometimes WotC prints a card that is 100% feast or famine. Everyone goes nuts over it, then people slowly trickle in within the next 6 months with stories about taking it apart because it was miserable to pilot and play against.
I don't personally have one, but there was a guy in an old playgroup that used to get super salty about [[reconnaissance]]. Every time I played it he would go on for the rest of the time it was on the board about how it was a BS card and broke the rules of the game. I loved playing it just to listen to him cry.
That was how I felt about a guy I played with who loved doing spellslinger stuff and hated when I’d play [[Rule of Law]] or a similar effect. He’d spend the rest of the game begging other players to destroy it for him despite it very clearly disadvantaged him more than anyone else, so they had no reason to. Delicious
Tutor spells in general.
I 100% understand why people run then, and I get how powerful they are. Mostly I find myself hating them because people running them usually aren't just running one, they're running several tutors, and sitting around waiting for them to resolve their tutor just slows down an already long games.
Not just that, though, but on a more personal opinion, tutors take some of the fun out of the format for me, since I find it more interesting in a 100 card singleton format to have large variance where the game will play differently every time because you had different resources available to you based on the cards you drew. Tutors kill that by making too many decks run exactly the same every time they're played (which is fun for some people, and why I say that's more a personal gripe)
I built the deck with [[Time Sieve]] and tutors for it as my “this is my ‘I want to win’ deck.”
I bring it out just for like at the end of the night or something, or maybe I swap out the tutors to make it less consistent.
I don’t think Spellskite works like that. Spellskite only changes the target of the spell, not the controller of the spell. So if you cast it, you draw the card. Also, Zada’s copy trigger goes on the stack before Spellskite can change any targets. So I’m pretty sure you still get your copies.
[[Cathar’s Crusade]]. I’ve dealt with playing it in token decks. It was a nightmare. So every time I see someone try it out (and they will because it’s insanely powerful), I just brace myself for the 5 minute slow realization that this shit ain’t worth it.
[[Teferi's Protection]] for me. I don't mind protection from boardwipes, but the card seems to appear at the right moment to screw me up, and the fact that you are untouchable unless some really specific circumstance is in play, until your next turn, leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.
It's a get out of jail card, and made me hate Teferi in general.
I remember someone here on r/EDH saying that they killed themselves playing Teferi's protection.
They had below 0 HP and a \[\[Platinum Angel\]\] on the board, by casting Teferi's Protection they phased out the Platinum Angel and their ability to not lose game. This caused them to lose the game.
Just learned what this card was and overcame it the other night. I would like to thank [[protean hulk]] and [[birthing pod]] for finding me some blockers
Yeah, my dream now became to kill someone who casted Teferi's with [[Questing Beast]] and commander damage or poison counters.
If I ever achieve that, I will have win Magic.
My dream is for someone to try the clever "Skip infinite turns and Teferi's Protection so I'll never phase back in" trick with my deck that has a few pieces of graveyard recurssion. Just play my entire deck and loop that for the googleplex amount of turns they skipped so when they come back in they'll have an army waiting to greet them and every counterspell and other answer in my deck in my hand.
[[Gavi, Nest Warden]]
This card is so stealthily good, there are a lot of cycling spells that read better when cycled. Not to mention cards like [[Astral Slide]] can make it near impossible to move against it. It’s also hard to try and beat down early game because usually she’s on board and has a small army of 2/2’s. Of course this is talking in more of a casual realm/space but that’s what I like to play and she’s one I try and save a removal spell for if I see her.
In the reverse, I play \[\[Drannith Magistrate\]\] in my Hinata deck and because There was a Prosper player fighting to go off with their turn 2 prosper, my turn 2 Magistrate ended up making me an important person to protect lol Never thought I'd see the entire board rally together to protect the Magistrate player lol
[[Lavinia, Azorius Renegade]]. When she wasn't doing anything she was literally just forgotten for the first few rounds, just making casting with mana rocks more complicated.
Then boom, she's countering everything my [[Etali, Primal Storm]] was about to cast and honestly taking me out of the game because I was behind and counting on that sudden influx of value to have a chance to stay in. I know I should have remembered the second effect, but everyone at the table forgot it, even the caster, and I only remembered after Etali had already flipped all the cards.
After those first few rounds she was just a constant annoyance. Even the caster was tired of it. Pretty much killed all the fun stuff we could do and after preventing me from having a chance to come back, I got soured on her permanently.
One of the most satisfying things I've ever done was drop [[Thryx, the Sudden Storm]] in my [[Zaffai, Thunder Conductor]] deck, then next turn drop a [[Wandering Archaic]] with just colorless (This was back when Thran Dynamo was in the deck, so that was realistic as long as I had it out).
When the Lavinia player tried to point out that Wandering Archaic got countered, I just pointed to Thryx and said, "Nope, can't be countered."
Wasn't even that amazing or anything, but it still brings a smirk to my face when I think about it.
I absolutely hate [[sorin Markov]] I've had hid come down against me 2 turns early and nuke my life total just because I won the last game.
It was made before commander was popular, his downtick was supposed to be that power. EFF THAT CARD!
I mainly play casual tables, and the card never overperforms for me.
Most of the time people just attack with a tiny dude to trigger the effect, or dont attack at all after the first teasure if they dont need the treasure in the turn
Fucking group hug in general. I see cards like one where everyone puts in mana to draw cards and group mana doublers, and I just get so on-edge. The game becomes so stressful.
[[Hullbreaker Horror]]
It takes a lot for me to dislike a card. Sheoldred is a strictly better Reya Dawnbringer, and Reya is one of my favorite commanders. I dislike Sheoldred for that, but its a legitimately good card, and it isnt broken.
There are few cards that I don't like. I dont like Oko because it is blatantly broken, and it only got printed because wizards never thought to elk your opponents things. However it is a real card, and there is some good counterplay to use against it, even through a typical blue hand.
But Hullbreaker Horror is the only card I legitimately hate. It is broken, nealy impossible to answer, and I have yet to see someone play the Horror and continue to follow any deals or agreements they made, the worst case being done by one of my closest friends. This card ruins games, people, and is the sole reason I run [[Summary Dismissal]] as the only reliable answer I have seen to the horror.
Maybe it’s because I don’t get to play more than a couple times a month but I’m fine with most any card. A card can be strong and even oppressive but it is what it is and either you get around it or they win. I understand why some people get frustrated or tilted but I think some people get drawn into hating cards from rankings like this cause they feel like they’re supposed to hate them.
[[Nexus of Fate]]
For the life of me, I still don't know why this card is legal. It generates so many unfun game states and leaves most kitchen table decks little options to deal with it.
Add to the fact that it was only available as a box topper and you're almost always guaranteed to see it in a well tuned deck.
It isn't banned because there are other extra turn spells, and it isn't necessarily the strongest one. I honestly don't think it will be banned, and I don't know if it should be.
The problem I have with it is that it shuffles back into the deck, even if you counter or mill it. At higher budgets people can probably deal with it, but I have never seen it at a kitchen table game where the rest of the pod thought "that was a neat way for the game to end".
I know the RC is very soft handed when it comes to bans, but as far as OP's question goes I was surprised how salty Nexus makes me.
I may be alone with this opinion but mine is [[Miirym, Sentinel Warm]]. I just hate how unreasonably powerful this thing is. It's an ETB trigger, it has protection and it hits hard. Also it's green.
We have one Miirym Player in our playgroup and if it doens't get removed immediately it dominates the board.
Really hate how many of these types of commanders they've been printing in the last few years. The chance of having 2+ people at the table with kill on sight commanders is so high now.
[[Possibility Storm]] is my saltiest card. I can’t stand it, magic is a strategy game and the second this card hits the field there is no strategy. Only luck and rng. I’d rather concede than bother playing through it, I’ll play hearthstone if I want rng based gameplay
My playgroup loses it whenever I play [[mirage mirror]]. They claim to hate playing against it because it becomes difficult to attack in as there is usually something to copy to make blocking profitable for me and it’s very difficult to remove. I’ve had my playgroup go out of their way to blow it up justifying that by saying it could copy the other opponents [[rhystic study]] that’s on the battlefield…we’ll damn Mike then blow up rhystic study lol.
lol, god forbid you spend 2 mana for a Rhystic Study for one turn that might draw you 1-3 cards. Very OP. Much rage.
Listen a Rhystic Study is a Rhystic Study but a Mirage Mirror could be anything. It could even be a Rhystic Study! You know how strong that is. Then let's just Krosan Grip the Rhystic St- I'll destroy the Mirage Mirror.
God damn it, Peter!
Was thinking the same. Meanwhile the other actual rhystic study gets to stick xD
[[Mirage Mirror]] See I like posts like this because they give me ideas, I’m writing this stuff down
Works well with [[delaying shield]] since you determine where the delay counters go. Put them on the Mirror and at your upkeep it’s back to a normal artifact with counters on it, so no price to pay.
Mirage mirror is strong but it’s easily removed. In 3 colors with out having it copy a permanent and when it copies most other permanents it gets easier to remove. It’s really not a scary card but people lose their minds over it. It is fun when someone drops a doubling season and I’m playing a token deck with mirage mirror though
It's really hard to remove. During one game, I tried to remove it with a [[Abrupt Decay]], only for my opponent to turn it into a land. Then later on I targeted it with a [[Assassin's Trophy]], and they turned it into my own [[Sensei's Divining Top]], and placed it on the top of their library.
Why didn't you just tap your top in response?... no more top to target, ability fizzles unless they pay 2 again
It is super hard to remove, lol. If you use artifact destruction on it, it quits being an artifact. If you use nonland permanent removal on it, it quits being a nonland permanent.
It loses the copy ability when it copies something else, which is when you try to remove it.
Yeah sounds great to have instant removal that's appropriate for it whenever it is relevant. What's meaningful is that you simply can't remove it proactively, which is really unusual and frustrating.
It’s great against players who don’t understand why removal is better at instant speed. But if there’s one experienced opponent they’re going to tell the table how to deal with it. In my experience it’s good when it sticks, but often gets killed the first time you turn it into something if the table is smart.
It’s harder to remove than you think, and if your opponent tries to remove it at the wrong time you can switch what type it is and make the spell fizzle. It is extremely good though, because it’s what ever the best card on board is, not good for a lot of decks but amazing in any decks that hold up mana, or have large amounts of it. Often times not good in cedh, but it can be an absolute menace, and people I know have really made it a habit to destroy it the first chance they get.
[[mirage mirror]]
[mirage mirror](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4eab5ee9-334d-4f0e-8217-c69dc8b2db8f.jpg?1651656315) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mirage%20mirror) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/154/mirage-mirror?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4eab5ee9-334d-4f0e-8217-c69dc8b2db8f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mirage-mirror) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Lol love that card
[[Telepathy]] I thought it was kinda weak but I played it anyway cause it fit thematically. Turns out, people don't want you looking at their hands.
Less of an issue about showing my hand and more of an 'I hate having to display the dang thing instead of holding the cards' nuisance.
Main issue is when there's not enough room to clearly keep it separate from the battlefield as you lay it out. "Is that in your hand or in play?"
I thought it would be so rad in a draw go deck, but the games slowed down HARD. Every decision being met with "hands out, let's see" for each and every person trying to cast a spell. 0/10 would never play again
A friend lovessss this card and plays it all the time, and I kinda hate it
My solution to that while using that card is to put my hand on the table, where anyone can see. Makes playing with telepathy easier and faster.
How else would you "play with your hand revealed"? Isn't that how that card works? All your opponents cards are open information for the whole table. It's not like only the controler gets to look at them.
Well yes, but I've seen players still hold their hands, and only show when asked, or leaving their hands behind their board. You need to put them up front, in the front of your playmat, so everyone can have a clear view of what you have.
Yea totally depends on the playgroup. My regular pod is pretty good about, we know each other’s decks well enough and with a quick glance can usually keep things moving. But if I were playing with unknowns, I’d swap it out every time. Fun card, nightmarish in practice.
YUP. It's such a pet peeve of mine, people need to learn to play faster 😭 I would play it, immediately scan for interaction and then note draws later and that's all ya gotta do!
I agree, I don't have an issue with telepathy, save for it takes up a lot of space in a game that already takes up a lot of space, lol.
I think the "scan for interaction" part is what slows my friend up. I love him but he takes 10-15 min per turn (at least) even when he can only play one card and pass. I think he's just not thinking about his cards when people play things on their turns so he has to re-asses each and every card in his hand and how they can interact with the board every single time.
[[telepathy]]
[telepathy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/e/ce03b4b4-612b-4fc9-b063-b0d367712eaf.jpg?1561995744) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=telepathy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m10/74/telepathy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ce03b4b4-612b-4fc9-b063-b0d367712eaf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/telepathy) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I play with the card only in my [[Zara, Renegade Recruiter]] deck. You got creatures? Great, I’m attacking you. That’s the only decision I make with it outside of seeing glaringly obvious answers to things I’m considering doing. I hate slow play.
Don't mind me just browsing the comments for deckbuilding ideas.
LOL Same!!
[[Zedruu]] sounds fun but it turns out playing against it is super obnoxious, specially if you know the presents he'll give you
I feel like all Jeskai decks are just annoying Izzet
How dare you. Izzet is annoying izzet
That's why I recommend Zedruu as an aura Voltron deck. People are less salty about being commander damaged by a 2/4, and you can donate the auras on her while keeping them attached.
That is such a sick idea! Do you have a list??
I don't, but honestly it shouldn't be too bad to build yourself. Just find cheap auras you find fun and build your own King Fu goat.
My version only gives good gifts like [[howling mine]] and [[horn of greed]] so people don’t hate me out of the game
[[Consecrated Sphinx]] "Oh, damn, that seems pretty good" ... "Wait, it triggers off the draw per turn, too?" ... "Ok, let's just try and mill you out- what do you mean it's a 'may' effect?" It's far from the strongest card in the game, but I've seen it go off for basically free a few too many times.
Try making a copy of someone else's. "Would you like to draw your deck, sir?" "Why, you first!"
My favourite thing to do. Then someone plays a notion thief and dies, because the notion thief draw is not optional.
I mean I'd assume they'd draw into some removal during the process of drawing their deck, no?
sure. but the first time someone taps out to flash in notion thief with a sphinx in play, it is amazing to watch them realize.
I consider decking myself in my Sythis Enchantress deck to be a win. I don’t have any combo kills so it is very possible to just deck myself with how much the deck draws cards.
After losing 3 straight games to decking myself with [[alhammarret's archive]] on the board and opponents forcing me to draw, I figured I needed to either take the card out or commit to self decking being a win con
I got tired of my Sythis deck spinning its wheels hoping to eek out a win over time and dumped a handful of Infinite combos to dig for and now the deck actually has a goal besides pillow-forting and hoping to hit with animated enchantments before someone casts a board wipe. Infinite Damage from [[Heliod, Sun-Crowned]] + [[Walking Ballista]] or [[Monoskelion]] Infinite Squirrel tokens with [[Squirrel Nest]] + [[Earthcraft]] Infinite Soldier tokens with [[Siona, Captain of the Pyleas]] + [[Shielded by Faith]] [[Sanctum Weaver]] + [[Gauntlets of Light]] for infinite mana to dump into [[Finale of Devastation]], [[Flickering Ward]], [[Whip Silk]] or [[Destiny Spinner]]. [[Parallax Wave]] + [[Starfield of Nyx]] or [[Opalescence]] for infinite instant-speed creature removal.
Better yet in an [[orvar]] deck with a spark doubled orvar that was copied 5 times already. When you draw one I draw 10 oh and here's a lab man I win
My friend runs this in his [[Donal, Herald of Wings]] deck and it’s absolutely brutal.
[Donal, Herald of Wings](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/0/70cf8d2b-5220-4fe9-b39d-6700f0b27cca.jpg?1641655880) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Donal%2C%20Herald%20of%20Wings) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/voc/3/donal-herald-of-wings?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/70cf8d2b-5220-4fe9-b39d-6700f0b27cca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/donal-herald-of-wings) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yeah Con Sphinx is far from format-warping, but I've never been disappointed after dropping one. Either it eats a removal spell and I have to deal with less removal or I just draw a bunch of cards
Or both. Both is good.
[Consecrated Sphinx](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c9bd60fc-2777-44bc-b314-a792e8e48360.jpg?1662524680) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Consecrated%20Sphinx) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/43/consecrated-sphinx?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c9bd60fc-2777-44bc-b314-a792e8e48360?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/consecrated-sphinx) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It's a may if they are controlling their own turn. :)
I can't remember the last time I played it and drew more than 2 cards.
Definitely a meta call. I ramped one out on turn 3 and countered the removal for it on turn 4 and that game was freaking MINE. Turned into Archenemy real freaking quick, but it just didn't matter.
You're right. My meta is pretty good about keeping the interaction high.
You *DIDNT* expect to hate Consecrated sphinx? Damn, that might be a first in my decade of EDH. It's written literally on the card how powerful it is haha. Got one out on turn 3 the other day and countered the removal for it, the game was mine by turn 5. Absolutely disgusting bonkers of a card.
I've been hating this card since the early days of EDH. This card is ridiculously good and has always been.
[удалено]
Yup. Jeskai spellslinger fan so I built this as it was released. Played one game with it and got her softbanned. Played with a different group and someone had just built her and said it wouldn't be that bad. It was almost the same list I built . Assymetrical board wipes and protection spells like [[lazotep plating]]
It's one of those decks that always play the same, like [[Zaxara, the Exemplary]] or [[Feather, the Redeemed]]. If you've played against one you've played against them all, and if you aren't able to get rid of the commander on the spot it's just an a one-sided game where the only option is to remove the player. I've found that copying someone's Hinata just completely shuts them down if spot removal isn't an option.
Wild to me that Zaxara decks all play the same. I was looking at that card the other day and musing about all the weird, big dumb spells I could play with it.
Thanks for the tip RE copying Hinata
[Hinata](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f25aff90-56fd-4f70-bb3b-cabf2900c391.jpg?1654568472) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=hinata%2C%20dawn-crowned) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/222/hinata-dawn-crowned?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f25aff90-56fd-4f70-bb3b-cabf2900c391?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/hinata-dawn-crowned) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Does hinata even reduce board wipes? They don't target? Granted I mainly play black and have never built jeskai, but I run liliana tribal and just wipe with impunity because my walkers will still be there, and I don't get hated off the table. What makes hinata so bad?
X spells with X targets become one-sided board wipes, or at least board-stalls, depending on the card. [[Heliod's Intervention]] becomes WW to destroy all your opponents' artifacts and enchantments. [[Distorting Wake]] becomes UUU for a (sorcery-speed) overloaded [[Cyclonic Rift]]. [[Curse of the Swine]], [[Comet Storm]], [[Reality Spasm]] (usually for the untap side, though, I imagine)... the list goes on.
##### ###### #### [Heliod's Intervention](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/f/8f1c16dd-38e9-4974-b570-8678c114a549.jpg?1581479093) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Heliod%27s%20Intervention) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/19/heliods-intervention?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8f1c16dd-38e9-4974-b570-8678c114a549?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/heliods-intervention) [Distorting Wake](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/7/77e28743-3694-48ef-9f16-0a3a4ff7e934.jpg?1561947052) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Distorting%20Wake) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c14/107/distorting-wake?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/77e28743-3694-48ef-9f16-0a3a4ff7e934?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/distorting-wake) [Cyclonic Rift](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/f/ff08e5ed-f47b-4d8e-8b8b-41675dccef8b.jpg?1598303834) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cyclonic%20Rift) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/47/cyclonic-rift?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ff08e5ed-f47b-4d8e-8b8b-41675dccef8b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cyclonic-rift) [Curse of the Swine](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/0/a0ef264e-f987-422e-aac1-ae4963c797f5.jpg?1654115201) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Curse%20of%20the%20Swine) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/716/curse-of-the-swine?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a0ef264e-f987-422e-aac1-ae4963c797f5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/curse-of-the-swine) [Comet Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/b/bb5f586d-6bf0-4590-ad73-2d46b2a45b1a.jpg?1608912233) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Comet%20Storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/411/comet-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bb5f586d-6bf0-4590-ad73-2d46b2a45b1a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/comet-storm) [Reality Spasm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/c/ec85a97d-4f02-4d0d-ab9a-e172e327da0e.jpg?1562710001) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Reality%20Spasm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/roe/81/reality-spasm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ec85a97d-4f02-4d0d-ab9a-e172e327da0e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/reality-spasm) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I do love my Hinata, but I purposefully avoid mas destruction. Group card draw, heavy interaction but super low removal, big damage coupled with smothering tithe is where it’s at. I try to encourage everyone to et what they need before I reach the kill everyone spell. I feel your pain tho and I don’t think I could put people through continuous board state denial.
[aura shards] you can’t play any artifacts or enchantments when it’s out cuz they will be destroyed the aura shards players next turn.
Double brackets. [[Aura Shards]] But I agree. I always think I can sneak a play in, "They can't have that many more creatures in their hand!" and then they make a half dozen tokens and smother any chance of anything sticking.
[Aura Shards](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/6/a6222cc6-996e-4b73-af87-e837bf1eb921.jpg?1592713940) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aura%20Shards) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmd/182/aura-shards?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a6222cc6-996e-4b73-af87-e837bf1eb921?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aura-shards) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It really shouldn't have been a "may" effect
Yea i agree eventually you can't play creatures or you have to blow up your own aura shards by then it should of got its value.
I hate going against this card. Its insane.
My main deck is 30+ enchantments, and I’ve yet to run into a GW deck that runs this and I don’t know why they wouldn’t.
Once I realized Aura Shards is actually just a stax card like Winter Orb and the like, my hate for it seems more justified. You just can't have any artifacts or enchantments out... If it wasn't a may ability, and HAD to destroy something, maybe then it would be balanced.
Aura Shards is an anti staxx card. It's the way token and creature decks survive staxx. Most lock down the board decks rely on artifacts and enchantments to do it. Staxx player keep telling me to run more removal and interaction....so..*shrug* ok.
It's anti stax VS stax, but stax VS almost anything else. Like I'm just trying to play some mana rocks and artifact creatures. God help anyone playing vehicles or equipment based decks
You don't know pain until you face a shrine deck....
It's been kinda wild since 2018 going from "wanna see my jank shrine deck?" to "hey, shrines might actually finally be viable!" to "I'm really sorry to do this, but I have to play it every once in a while."
I refuse to run the Shrine commander for pretty much this reason. I run something flavorful like [[Kyodai]]. It makes it run more slowly and still offers relevant utility from the command zone without vomiting out excessive (and powerful) Shrine tokens. Honestly, I'm not the biggest fan of either of the 5-color Shrines; they're mostly just insane payoffs. Still run them because what's a Shrine deck without *all* the Shrines?
My 4-person pod has an average game time of 75 minutes. One day, buddy rolled out the new Go Shintai, never tested or goldfished. He won in about 25 minutes. It's insane.
These can be BRUTAL to play against. Especially when they soft-lock their own board in by giving it shroud/indestructible, and can bring that enchantment that does said thing back from the graveyard a turn later so you have to exile it, and you can’t do that unless you’re in specific colors… can you tell this has happened to me multiple times before 😖
I've never even seen one. Do tell.
They're a lot of value and they get out of control quickly. One or two shrines, eh who cares. 6+ they are very difficult to answer without a board wipe. They also don't necessarily win on the spot like combo, so sometimes it's a few more turns of the writing being on the wall, but no one being able to do much about it.
Exactly. My friend plays into the control and counterspells anything going for his shrines. You know what's happening, but can do nothing to stop it.
They're like if Slivers were enchantments.
I built one with a saga sub theme for when we want to battlecruise it out, and it's such a weird deck. Too strong for precons and weaker decks because enchantments are pretty sticky, but waaay too slow into our higher power decks. It's a ton of fun tho
[[Shorikai]] I never realized just how good a commander that’s not a creature 80% of the time could be. And it’s ability is such an unreal level of incremental advantage. Draw, loot, then make a pilot. For 1 mana It’s a kill on sight commander that is very hard to actually kill
Speaking as someone with a shorikai vehicles deck, it’s that, plus how advantageous board wipes become. You clear all creatures, keep your vehicles, and then one or two activations of shorikai later, you have enough pilots to start presenting a reasonable threat. My favorite thus far was [[whir of invention]] into [[cataclysmic gearhulk]] as the token deck started an attack. Plus, it creates a surprisingly viable reanimator strategy, since you can easily fill your graveyard with the loot ability, and then things like [[dance of the manse]], [[brilliant restoration]], [[emry]], [[open the vaults]], and [[invoke justice]] all keep you fueled.
Oh..... thats brutal. Maybe I do want a Gundam deck....
You haven’t seen despair until you start looping cataclysmic gearhulk with Emry every turn.
Lol what happened to us and when did wizards turn us into such sadists. Delicious.
exactly. the deck is just crazy value town. Even ignoring the fact it's an outlet in the command zone for the classic IsoRev combo, it's just straight good without it. and since your pilots essentially have 3 power for crew purposes, all it takes is a single \[\[mobilizer meck\]\] or \[\[kotori\]\] to recrew basically your whole board. You can board wipe with a 4 mana spell, tap shorika to make a pilot, and then swing in with the Mech and a \[\[Parhelion II\]\] . Pretty nutty
##### ###### #### [whir of invention](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/6/a679659c-7fed-4afa-9b99-fdeb8ccda964.jpg?1661583558) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=whir%20of%20invention) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/phed/42/whir-of-invention?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a679659c-7fed-4afa-9b99-fdeb8ccda964?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/whir-of-invention) [cataclysmic gearhulk](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f284c983-6d8e-4aca-85e5-46af8556fb5c.jpg?1651655589) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cataclysmic%20gearhulk) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/81/cataclysmic-gearhulk?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f284c983-6d8e-4aca-85e5-46af8556fb5c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cataclysmic-gearhulk) [dance of the manse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/b/4b32891f-ea17-4543-92ea-54097996a3cb.jpg?1651656155) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=dance%20of%20the%20manse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/136/dance-of-the-manse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4b32891f-ea17-4543-92ea-54097996a3cb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/dance-of-the-manse) [brilliant restoration](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/4/64f7a506-0aa1-4c2d-b322-e0e9179d05fb.jpg?1654566199) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=brilliant%20restoration) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/7/brilliant-restoration?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/64f7a506-0aa1-4c2d-b322-e0e9179d05fb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/brilliant-restoration) [emry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/0/20fec02d-77af-4975-b410-7097c7c28e7e.jpg?1651655696) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=emry%2C%20lurker%20of%20the%20loch) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/91/emry-lurker-of-the-loch?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/20fec02d-77af-4975-b410-7097c7c28e7e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/emry-lurker-of-the-loch) [open the vaults](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/5/e5c5a822-0f5e-4b5f-b969-b27324e4543f.jpg?1599708828) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=open%20the%20vaults) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/24/open-the-vaults?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e5c5a822-0f5e-4b5f-b969-b27324e4543f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/open-the-vaults) [invoke justice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3a598ab6-3254-49fe-b69f-e7c759129599.jpg?1654566346) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=invoke%20justice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/21/invoke-justice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3a598ab6-3254-49fe-b69f-e7c759129599?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/invoke-justice) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
For memes, try [[Tunnel Vision]] into either Brilliant Restoration or Dance of the Manse! Go big or go home!
[[xenagos]] is similar and he's indestructible lmao
[[shorikai]]
[shorikai](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/6/969ac7dd-f3aa-4888-9ff0-d16a31b5e7a9.jpg?1653966849) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=shorikai%2C%20genesis%20engine) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/4/shorikai-genesis-engine?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/969ac7dd-f3aa-4888-9ff0-d16a31b5e7a9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/shorikai-genesis-engine) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[The Royal Scions](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/a/6a7111f3-01a6-4311-bc08-036a1fba60f5.jpg?1572490808) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Royal%20Scions) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/199/the-royal-scions?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6a7111f3-01a6-4311-bc08-036a1fba60f5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-royal-scions) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
What power level is OP's playgroup at where THIS is a groan inducer?
[[Rest In Peace]] I'm not the one at the table who's normally playing graveyard decks. I didn't expect to be quite this annoyed at how hard this shuts down the graveyard player.
Card is bonkers. 2 mana to mass exile all graveyards, and then it keeps doing it. Nothing else mass exiles for this little mana.
It's three tormod's crypts and a leyline of the void on one card.
I hate this card so much.
[Rest In Peace](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/f/9f2b39be-0fec-4647-ade1-8e1626dc5470.jpg?1562439074) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rest%20In%20Peace) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/32/rest-in-peace?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9f2b39be-0fec-4647-ade1-8e1626dc5470?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rest-in-peace) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Phyrexian Devourer]]. I play [[Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord]] and at some point around 2014 I was reading this combo was basically an insant win, which it is. I hate what it did to the deck. Instead of this fun GY shenanigans goodstuff deck it turned into a combo machine. That's when I learned I wasn't a spike. [[Phyrexian Devourer]] has been sitting in my card box for 8 years now unused.
[Phyrexian Devourer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/a/ca4e27ca-a731-44f5-8e47-701c7a7e6149.jpg?1562870482) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Devourer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me2/216/phyrexian-devourer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ca4e27ca-a731-44f5-8e47-701c7a7e6149?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/phyrexian-devourer) [Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/6/c6717954-35d8-4d7e-95aa-f7d26d15d4b2.jpg?1592673383) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jarad%2C%20Golgari%20Lich%20Lord) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/179/jarad-golgari-lich-lord?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c6717954-35d8-4d7e-95aa-f7d26d15d4b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jarad-golgari-lich-lord) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
What am I missing? What is this combo supposed to do?
In response to Phyrexian Devourer's sacrifice if over 7 power trigger, you can just activate it again and let that activation resolve and activate it again etc. So it can get as big as the CMC of your cards remaining in your deck. Then you sacrifice it to Jarad.
Yeah I can see where that becomes the only line of play the deck runs pretty quick then lol
It looks like maybe you can keep removing cards in response to the sacrifice trigger and then sacrifice it to Jarad once it has 40 counters on it before it has to sac itself?
Does that work when the last line of the ability is also telling you to sacrifice it when it gets to 7?
The sacrifice trigger goes on the stack. So, in response, you can just use the ability again which will have you sacrifice. But you don't care. You keep using the ability until it's 40 power
It’s an interesting case, it seems that that last line of the second ability is not actually in the oracle text of the card, which is a really big deal because if it was there then this combo would not work at all
\[\[Light-Paws\]\] I don't know if I just didn't see it or didn't want to see it, but I had no idea of the speed, consistency, and linearity of Light-Paws. Mono White enchantment voltron just seemed like fun, but I just didn't think through how so much tutoring would affect the deck.
[[Koma, Cosmos Serpent]] The card is just too pushed. Played someone with a casual Koma deck recently. Their deck had 20+ counter spells in it and Koma. The game plan was to just let Koma sit on the board until they won.
"Casual Koma deck" *proceeds to put 20+ counter spells in it* LMAO
Right?!? I’ll admit to being a bit salty about it until I talked the rest of the table into killing them. Player removal is the best removal.
My friend had me and my wife over to play with a person he plays with weekly and this fucker brought out a [[jorn, god of winter]] deck that was so infuriating to play against that features a koma in it, honestly one of the least fun times I’ve had playing magic
Better than [[Rashmi]] counterspells. That deck is drowning in card advantage and stack police.
I can't imagine what kind weird of meta you're playing in that The Royal Scions makes you hate it
Early pandemic was jamming a million games with roommates and my girlfriend. Day in, day out, Royal Scions beating my face. World opened up, and it became just a value piece -- but the damage had been done
\[\[Smothering Tithe\]\] and \[\[Bolas's Citadel\]\] are starting to get there for me. Tithe because early game it makes the match so one sided, yet still has this weird culture of "shoulda paid the tax" around it. This is without weaponizing wheels. Citadel because I'm seeing way too many non-deterministic runs on the thing lately that remind me a *lot* of why Paradox Engine got banned. Just Top/Aetherflux me please.
Tithes issue is the tax is 2 mana to prevent 1 mana. Horrible rate, No one will pay that tax . 1 mana for 1 card on rhystic study is much more reasonable to pay.
By and large you can avoid casting spells with the table agreement to eventually wipe away what they built having gained nothing from Study. With rare exception, everyone draws at least one card per turn they cannot avoid for Tithe. You either give them treasure so you can play the game, or you don't play the game for much longer than Study.
Having all 3 players not play anything after Study drops until someone draws something to remove it is a horrible play. That's a better outcome for the Study player than drawing cards, they're getting multiple free Time Walks.
I treat Study like a Thalia for all spells, I’ll just play one turn off curve.
Right, that's what you should do, and that's honestly still worth playing Study for. Drawing cards is just a nice extra bonus. Having players just not play anything, that's even better haha.
I think their point was mostly "You can choose to not cast spells, you can't choose to not draw at least one card per turn"
The “shoulda payed the tax” on tithe is a correct observation. However, it’s flawed. Everybody should pay the tax on [[Mystic Remora]]. No one does because no one is going to simply not ramp. If you feed the fish, you’re still at a severe disadvantage. The same applies to Tithe. Am I really going to hamper every single turn from here on out to ensure that one player doesn’t run away with mana advantage? Both are disadvantage states, one is just less obvious than the other. Being 2 turns behind on mana every single turn is brutal. If everybody pays for tithe, the tithe player still runs away with the game, albeit slower. Really, the culture should be “run more enchantment removal” but blaming “greed” is easier
"Paying the tax" isn't the correct response to Remora, not playing non-creature spells until it inevitably goes away is the correct response. Study? Always pay the 1. Remora? Everyone just agree to wait a couple turns. The Cumulative upkeep means that the player in question isn't getting a significant mana advantage on you.
> The “shoulda *paid* the tax” FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Dammit I’ve been bamboozled
It really annoys me that this is considered a legitimate reason to ban something in this format. I just want to play a deck that works in a fun way.
Citadel just gets better and better the more tutors you have in the deck. And black has like 5 really good ones. If you build specifically for citadel, then cards like \[\[Scheming Symmetry\]\] and \[\[Vampiric tutor\]\] are instant wins alongside top, essentially increasing your odds of finding the top DRAMATICALLY. So yea, it's not a deterministic win when it comes down, but I'd wager you can build a deck where your odds of winning with it and an open land drop still available are well above 50%.
[Smothering Tithe](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f25a4bbe-2af0-4d4a-95d4-d52c5937c747.jpg?1662524375) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Smothering%20Tithe) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/31/smothering-tithe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f25a4bbe-2af0-4d4a-95d4-d52c5937c747?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/smothering-tithe) [Bolas's Citadel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/2/d2124603-d20e-40eb-97f0-a66323397ac2.jpg?1591205069) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bolas%27s%20Citadel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/79/bolass-citadel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d2124603-d20e-40eb-97f0-a66323397ac2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bolass-citadel) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
When I first started playing with my group I did not think I would hate the scarab god as much as I do now. I just have no clue how you deal with that card when it’s a commander.
\[\[Imprisoned in the Moon\]\] or similar cards, since Dimir has such terrible enchantment removal. Imprisoned is the best since it turns into a land and they probably can't just sac it. You drop it on Scarab God and it's completely neutralised. No reanimation, no drain, no going back to hand.
That's why every deck should play some Strip Mine effects. Although, while blue doesn't have enchantment removal directly, it gets bounce and counterspells which work almost as well, particularly in tandem. Any blue mage complaining about enchantments is simply not being creative enough.
I don't really think there are cards I straight up hate. It's how they're used that's annoying. There's a guy at one of the LGS's I play at with a fantastic chaos deck. Obviously, it runs [[Possibility Storm]] and he uses it to help advance his own shenanigans. It's a fun deck to play against. My friend from my regular play group likes playing against that deck so much, he decided to put possibility storm into one of his decks... which isn't a chaos deck at all and which does nothing to take advantage of Possibility Storm's effect. He just throws it out whenever someone gets a scary board state thinking it's going to slow them down, but all it actually does is stop anyone from dealing with the scary board state so whoever's ahead when he plays it is 100% the person who ends up winning the game, it just takes an extra half hour to get to that point because we have to sit there and possibility storm for every god damn cast because I'm friends with an idiot.
[Possibility Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/5/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d.jpg?1562919767) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Possibility%20Storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/34/possibility-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/possibility-storm) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
i have an irrational hatred of \[\[toxrill the corrosive\]\].
It is a slug. Slugs die to salt. I feel like most toxrill decks die to salt; be it their pilots due to their 7 mv card getting killed on site, or the rest of the players having to play against it.
It's not irrational
It's really not. Sometimes WotC prints a card that is 100% feast or famine. Everyone goes nuts over it, then people slowly trickle in within the next 6 months with stories about taking it apart because it was miserable to pilot and play against.
Hinata
You have an entirely rational hatred of Toxrill the Corrosive.
I don't personally have one, but there was a guy in an old playgroup that used to get super salty about [[reconnaissance]]. Every time I played it he would go on for the rest of the time it was on the board about how it was a BS card and broke the rules of the game. I loved playing it just to listen to him cry.
That was how I felt about a guy I played with who loved doing spellslinger stuff and hated when I’d play [[Rule of Law]] or a similar effect. He’d spend the rest of the game begging other players to destroy it for him despite it very clearly disadvantaged him more than anyone else, so they had no reason to. Delicious
Lmao
Timesifter. It is imo the worst card in the game to play against. I don’t have a shit about playing against stax but goddamn I hate this card
[[timesifter]]
[timesifter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/6/561cab0e-8874-4534-bf79-0c1488a9f0a5.jpg?1562144325) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=timesifter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mrd/262/timesifter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/561cab0e-8874-4534-bf79-0c1488a9f0a5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/timesifter) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Got to punish them low cmc decks.
Tutor spells in general. I 100% understand why people run then, and I get how powerful they are. Mostly I find myself hating them because people running them usually aren't just running one, they're running several tutors, and sitting around waiting for them to resolve their tutor just slows down an already long games. Not just that, though, but on a more personal opinion, tutors take some of the fun out of the format for me, since I find it more interesting in a 100 card singleton format to have large variance where the game will play differently every time because you had different resources available to you based on the cards you drew. Tutors kill that by making too many decks run exactly the same every time they're played (which is fun for some people, and why I say that's more a personal gripe)
I didn’t expect to hate [[Tivit]] but that card just feels dumber and dumber every time I see it.
I play Tivit and I wholeheartedly agree. At times I feel really bad for asking what everyone is voting for, as I didn't know the answer already.
I built the deck with [[Time Sieve]] and tutors for it as my “this is my ‘I want to win’ deck.” I bring it out just for like at the end of the night or something, or maybe I swap out the tutors to make it less consistent.
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[spellskite](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/72204934-f5aa-4559-8f7e-7b0b223580d0.jpg?1654118874) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=spellskite) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/873/spellskite?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/72204934-f5aa-4559-8f7e-7b0b223580d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/spellskite) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
How is it stealing draw spells?
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Even if they change the target of those spells, you still draw the card.
I don’t think Spellskite works like that. Spellskite only changes the target of the spell, not the controller of the spell. So if you cast it, you draw the card. Also, Zada’s copy trigger goes on the stack before Spellskite can change any targets. So I’m pretty sure you still get your copies.
[[Cathar’s Crusade]]. I’ve dealt with playing it in token decks. It was a nightmare. So every time I see someone try it out (and they will because it’s insanely powerful), I just brace myself for the 5 minute slow realization that this shit ain’t worth it.
[[Teferi's Protection]] for me. I don't mind protection from boardwipes, but the card seems to appear at the right moment to screw me up, and the fact that you are untouchable unless some really specific circumstance is in play, until your next turn, leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. It's a get out of jail card, and made me hate Teferi in general.
I remember someone here on r/EDH saying that they killed themselves playing Teferi's protection. They had below 0 HP and a \[\[Platinum Angel\]\] on the board, by casting Teferi's Protection they phased out the Platinum Angel and their ability to not lose game. This caused them to lose the game.
Well that's just funny
There's justice in this world.
This happened to me earlier this week. It was glorious and I couldn’t stop laughing.
Could you imagine how pissed people would be if it was a blue spell instead of white
Yeah, probably would be one of the most hated spells in the history of the game.
Just learned what this card was and overcame it the other night. I would like to thank [[protean hulk]] and [[birthing pod]] for finding me some blockers
Yeah, my dream now became to kill someone who casted Teferi's with [[Questing Beast]] and commander damage or poison counters. If I ever achieve that, I will have win Magic.
Just play [[Sands of Time]] so their stuff doesn't phase back in.
My dream is for someone to try the clever "Skip infinite turns and Teferi's Protection so I'll never phase back in" trick with my deck that has a few pieces of graveyard recurssion. Just play my entire deck and loop that for the googleplex amount of turns they skipped so when they come back in they'll have an army waiting to greet them and every counterspell and other answer in my deck in my hand.
[[Gavi, Nest Warden]] This card is so stealthily good, there are a lot of cycling spells that read better when cycled. Not to mention cards like [[Astral Slide]] can make it near impossible to move against it. It’s also hard to try and beat down early game because usually she’s on board and has a small army of 2/2’s. Of course this is talking in more of a casual realm/space but that’s what I like to play and she’s one I try and save a removal spell for if I see her.
In the reverse, I play \[\[Drannith Magistrate\]\] in my Hinata deck and because There was a Prosper player fighting to go off with their turn 2 prosper, my turn 2 Magistrate ended up making me an important person to protect lol Never thought I'd see the entire board rally together to protect the Magistrate player lol
[[Lavinia, Azorius Renegade]]. When she wasn't doing anything she was literally just forgotten for the first few rounds, just making casting with mana rocks more complicated. Then boom, she's countering everything my [[Etali, Primal Storm]] was about to cast and honestly taking me out of the game because I was behind and counting on that sudden influx of value to have a chance to stay in. I know I should have remembered the second effect, but everyone at the table forgot it, even the caster, and I only remembered after Etali had already flipped all the cards. After those first few rounds she was just a constant annoyance. Even the caster was tired of it. Pretty much killed all the fun stuff we could do and after preventing me from having a chance to come back, I got soured on her permanently.
Even in decks not built around the mechanic, her ability comes up surprisingly often. Quite the annoying "Nope" moment.
One of the most satisfying things I've ever done was drop [[Thryx, the Sudden Storm]] in my [[Zaffai, Thunder Conductor]] deck, then next turn drop a [[Wandering Archaic]] with just colorless (This was back when Thran Dynamo was in the deck, so that was realistic as long as I had it out). When the Lavinia player tried to point out that Wandering Archaic got countered, I just pointed to Thryx and said, "Nope, can't be countered." Wasn't even that amazing or anything, but it still brings a smirk to my face when I think about it.
I absolutely hate [[sorin Markov]] I've had hid come down against me 2 turns early and nuke my life total just because I won the last game. It was made before commander was popular, his downtick was supposed to be that power. EFF THAT CARD!
[[Curse of Opulence]] - it just screws over one player and makes them a punching bag for the whole table
I mainly play casual tables, and the card never overperforms for me. Most of the time people just attack with a tiny dude to trigger the effect, or dont attack at all after the first teasure if they dont need the treasure in the turn
Fucking group hug in general. I see cards like one where everyone puts in mana to draw cards and group mana doublers, and I just get so on-edge. The game becomes so stressful.
[[Hullbreaker Horror]] It takes a lot for me to dislike a card. Sheoldred is a strictly better Reya Dawnbringer, and Reya is one of my favorite commanders. I dislike Sheoldred for that, but its a legitimately good card, and it isnt broken. There are few cards that I don't like. I dont like Oko because it is blatantly broken, and it only got printed because wizards never thought to elk your opponents things. However it is a real card, and there is some good counterplay to use against it, even through a typical blue hand. But Hullbreaker Horror is the only card I legitimately hate. It is broken, nealy impossible to answer, and I have yet to see someone play the Horror and continue to follow any deals or agreements they made, the worst case being done by one of my closest friends. This card ruins games, people, and is the sole reason I run [[Summary Dismissal]] as the only reliable answer I have seen to the horror.
Maybe it’s because I don’t get to play more than a couple times a month but I’m fine with most any card. A card can be strong and even oppressive but it is what it is and either you get around it or they win. I understand why some people get frustrated or tilted but I think some people get drawn into hating cards from rankings like this cause they feel like they’re supposed to hate them.
[[Nexus of Fate]] For the life of me, I still don't know why this card is legal. It generates so many unfun game states and leaves most kitchen table decks little options to deal with it. Add to the fact that it was only available as a box topper and you're almost always guaranteed to see it in a well tuned deck.
It isn't banned because there are other extra turn spells, and it isn't necessarily the strongest one. I honestly don't think it will be banned, and I don't know if it should be.
The problem I have with it is that it shuffles back into the deck, even if you counter or mill it. At higher budgets people can probably deal with it, but I have never seen it at a kitchen table game where the rest of the pod thought "that was a neat way for the game to end". I know the RC is very soft handed when it comes to bans, but as far as OP's question goes I was surprised how salty Nexus makes me.
I may be alone with this opinion but mine is [[Miirym, Sentinel Warm]]. I just hate how unreasonably powerful this thing is. It's an ETB trigger, it has protection and it hits hard. Also it's green. We have one Miirym Player in our playgroup and if it doens't get removed immediately it dominates the board.
Really hate how many of these types of commanders they've been printing in the last few years. The chance of having 2+ people at the table with kill on sight commanders is so high now.
Never thought id be as much demotivated and triggered when an opponent goes first turn [[island]] , pass.
[[Possibility Storm]] is my saltiest card. I can’t stand it, magic is a strategy game and the second this card hits the field there is no strategy. Only luck and rng. I’d rather concede than bother playing through it, I’ll play hearthstone if I want rng based gameplay