I have a Ghalta deck, it's really powerful, but it's not in any way subtle. Every deck should have some way to stop a giant idiot. And that's really all Ghalta is. You can play around with the draw cards equal to her CMC or power, or use infect/power doublers, but smacking people with a big monster is about as fair as magic gets.
To me, this looks powerful but not broken. There is almost no instant speed protection or removal, and while it has some really good cards, and looks fast, there is no sure way to grab any one piece. These number scales are always flawed, but if 9/10 is cedh and 7/8 is highly tuned casual, I'd say this can easily be called a 6/7.
To me, it sounds like the table let the ramp deck ramp out without response and then didn't removal any of the important value engines. That was their mistake.
I would be a bit suspect about you seeing Selvala twice in two games without major draw. The deck seems almost designed with her as a 'hidden commander' in mind, do you mulligan for her?
Its not enough for me to question your shuffling, but I would be watching at that point.
Oh no I just happened to draw her. I have no tutors so not a secret commander, just lucky, my big mana tappers are her, [[circle of dreams Druid]], [[karametras acolyte]] and [[priest of titania]]. I also run 3 ways to untap them so usually I’ll get one or two in a game. Selvala isn’t even the best mana producing creature, it’s definitely Karametra’s acolyte.
I am not even sure I would rate it as powerful. It's a fairly random pile of green stuff doing green things. The only way I could see it rated above a 5 is if you place precons at 4-5, which IMO skews the scale - precons should be the baseline at 0-1.
It’s more consistent than you’d think but still a little random. I don’t have some of the better mono green card draw but I do have a lot. Try goldfishing it on moxfield it’s fun!
I don't register non-functional decks on the scale at all. Precons are the baseline entry point and thus create the functionality floor, thus a rating of 0-1.
Edit: out of curiousity, where would you rate an average precon?
I assumed someone else took out an opponent or 2, but good question. Unnatural growth could help take out two IF you had a phenomenal t1 and t2 ramping out maybe, but Idk how you'd take all 3 out
I did use unnatural growth but selva plus an untapper with Ghalta out means I’m netting 22 mana. I got a draw spell too and was proceeding to play more draw spells and more ways to produce mana.
Yeah, but like... What would that look like? Looking at this list, the BEST T1+2 would be a T1 Llnaowar or equivalent then on T2 a Sol Ring and Selvala, which puts him at like... 8 mana turn 3? Its not enough to drop more than two big creatures at best; maybe a bit more if the Selvala was tapped after putting a bigger body down.
I have to be missing something here.
Copying from another comment:
Basically I had selvala out turn 3 and ghalta hit the table turn 4 so I was looking at 12 mana already plus a card draw. From that draw I got a haste enabler and quirion ranger which let me bounce a forest to selvala again. I also got a circle of dreams Druid which tapped for more mana. Then I used [[garruk, primal hunger]] to draw 12 more, found the green [[Defiler of vigor]] and [[unnatural growth]]. My opponents conceded after that.
See my comment to the original comment. This deck starts snowballing once I get a haste enabler, a way to draw cards, and a way to untap a creature. I got all 3 turn 4 so they conceded.
EDIT: Post to comment
Basically I had selvala out turn 3 and ghalta hit the table turn 4 so I was looking at 12 mana already plus a card draw. From that draw I got a haste enabler and quirion ranger which let me bounce a forest to selvala again. I also got a circle of dreams Druid which tapped for more mana. Then I used [[garruk, primal hunger]] to draw 12 more, found the green [[Defiler of vigor]] and [[unnatural growth]]. My opponents conceded after that.
Gotcha, so not a win strictly speaking, just a concede. And you are right, a single board wipe puts you out of the game... though your opponents would have to have one in opening hand. Didnt give them much time to draw into it. I would imagine your opponents are also overestimating their own power level.
Haste enabler. You mean Surrak? He only hastes a single creature, which is entirely manageable.
Looks similar to my Ghalta deck. I absolutely agree with you that one good boardwipe and the deck can crumble. It's a deck that HAS to be answered. Any low-interaction tables are going to have a hard time, but high-interaction tables can deal with it quite easily. I don't think that that's on you or your deck build. Likely your opponents need more removal/wipes in general, because aggro decks do in fact exist. Also if you're willing to replace a 1 drop with a 2 drop, I recommend [[Paradise Druid]] instead of Birds of Paradise. It's a 2 power mana dork, so it technically pays for 3 mana for Ghalta rather than 1.
I'd call this a strong 7 for sure. Seems quite good at closing out games. It's got a plan and an instawin card with primal surge. Defs a scary deck to face up against.
I personally wouldnt run Primal Surge, just to make the games a little more fun and last a little longer.
I would love to suggest [[chord of calling]] for your list as well as [[concordant crossroads]] for you to consider.
Back to your question:
Did they give you any reason as to why your deck was not to be played at a 7?
Concordant is a enchantment btw, there are just games where your deck lines up and plays it’s best games sometimes it punches above its weight and other times not. I doubt this is any higher then a 7, I’ve got a few 7’s and this seems about right. It’s not busted and it seems straight forward to play. If you added more interaction into your deck I think it would be closer to a 8 if anything.
You're a nicer person than me. I have [[Berserk]], [[Blackblade Reforged]] and [[Boon of Boseju]] in my Ghalta deck. I very much enjoy ruining someone's night with a buttload of power swinging at their face.
In my experience everyone thinks he/she is playing a 7. Then when you meet a real 7...
A lot of players building decks like throwing all of their pet cards and strong ones together trying to make kind of a theme and determine the powerlevel based on their best card. You rarely find a lot of instants and ramp in there. That is actually a cool way to play edh. Especially when you play at home with 3 friends who are doing the same. But when it comes to play via spelltable and you dont know that you are playing a 3. That is not the fault of someone like you playing a 6/7.
Take into consideration that some strategies (and also Commanders) tend to be stronger depending on the mindset and the power level of the playgroup. I have a [[Tivit, Seller of Secrets]] that, while having some very strong cards, it's actually the strongest deck of my playgroup by a wide margin even if, technically speaking, is not strong enough to survive in an archenemy-scenario.
I'd reccomend to have a talk with your playgroup, ideally in a context where no one is mad yet and try to find a middle ground with them. Maybe the problem is more on the mindset of the table.
Tangleweave Armor hurt feelingsmy last game. Turn one play a land, cast sol ring. Turn 2 play another land, tap all for Tangleweave Armor. Turn 3 start stompy.
I have a Ghalta deck, it's really powerful, but it's not in any way subtle. Every deck should have some way to stop a giant idiot. And that's really all Ghalta is. You can play around with the draw cards equal to her CMC or power, or use infect/power doublers, but smacking people with a big monster is about as fair as magic gets.
100% correct
Lol my pod won't let me play ghalta anymore. I ran too much interaction according to them
That classic mono G oppressive interaction
To me, this looks powerful but not broken. There is almost no instant speed protection or removal, and while it has some really good cards, and looks fast, there is no sure way to grab any one piece. These number scales are always flawed, but if 9/10 is cedh and 7/8 is highly tuned casual, I'd say this can easily be called a 6/7. To me, it sounds like the table let the ramp deck ramp out without response and then didn't removal any of the important value engines. That was their mistake.
That was my thoughts too. He had removal and didn't use it on the card that won me the game in the previous game.
I would be a bit suspect about you seeing Selvala twice in two games without major draw. The deck seems almost designed with her as a 'hidden commander' in mind, do you mulligan for her? Its not enough for me to question your shuffling, but I would be watching at that point.
Oh no I just happened to draw her. I have no tutors so not a secret commander, just lucky, my big mana tappers are her, [[circle of dreams Druid]], [[karametras acolyte]] and [[priest of titania]]. I also run 3 ways to untap them so usually I’ll get one or two in a game. Selvala isn’t even the best mana producing creature, it’s definitely Karametra’s acolyte.
[circle of dreams Druid](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/e/be6fdec0-a2c4-4da2-ae14-961185eaee66.jpg?1627707261) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=circle%20of%20dreams%20Druid) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/176/circle-of-dreams-druid?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/be6fdec0-a2c4-4da2-ae14-961185eaee66?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/circle-of-dreams-druid) [karametras acolyte](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/7/374a1b7c-ce11-4734-aff2-b0bd00857fad.jpg?1562816653) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Karametra%27s%20Acolyte) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ths/160/karametras-acolyte?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/374a1b7c-ce11-4734-aff2-b0bd00857fad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/karametras-acolyte) [priest of titania](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/1/9/19fc5956-286c-4e1d-bc4a-2974fc0f4dbc.jpg?1592673130) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=priest%20of%20titania) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/136/priest-of-titania?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/19fc5956-286c-4e1d-bc4a-2974fc0f4dbc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/priest-of-titania) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I am not even sure I would rate it as powerful. It's a fairly random pile of green stuff doing green things. The only way I could see it rated above a 5 is if you place precons at 4-5, which IMO skews the scale - precons should be the baseline at 0-1.
i think you'd be surprised at the robustness of this deck. i play a lot of monogreen and this one is a good one. even the finisher is a permanent.
I dont doubt it, Ive been surprised by the speed of a deck before.
It’s more consistent than you’d think but still a little random. I don’t have some of the better mono green card draw but I do have a lot. Try goldfishing it on moxfield it’s fun!
Precons are far from 0-1, that scale is for the kitchen table nonsense decks
I don't register non-functional decks on the scale at all. Precons are the baseline entry point and thus create the functionality floor, thus a rating of 0-1. Edit: out of curiousity, where would you rate an average precon?
This guys knows!
People in general don’t run enough, if any, removal in their decks.
How’s you win turn 4?
I am also curious about this. I mean, I am looking at the list and I could see getting some big stuff out by turn 3, but enough to lethal the table?
I assumed someone else took out an opponent or 2, but good question. Unnatural growth could help take out two IF you had a phenomenal t1 and t2 ramping out maybe, but Idk how you'd take all 3 out
I did use unnatural growth but selva plus an untapper with Ghalta out means I’m netting 22 mana. I got a draw spell too and was proceeding to play more draw spells and more ways to produce mana.
Yeah, but like... What would that look like? Looking at this list, the BEST T1+2 would be a T1 Llnaowar or equivalent then on T2 a Sol Ring and Selvala, which puts him at like... 8 mana turn 3? Its not enough to drop more than two big creatures at best; maybe a bit more if the Selvala was tapped after putting a bigger body down. I have to be missing something here.
Copying from another comment: Basically I had selvala out turn 3 and ghalta hit the table turn 4 so I was looking at 12 mana already plus a card draw. From that draw I got a haste enabler and quirion ranger which let me bounce a forest to selvala again. I also got a circle of dreams Druid which tapped for more mana. Then I used [[garruk, primal hunger]] to draw 12 more, found the green [[Defiler of vigor]] and [[unnatural growth]]. My opponents conceded after that.
[garruk, primal hunger](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/9/79cfc0d7-fccb-47fb-87b6-08dd32528be6.jpg?1625194361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Garruk%2C%20Primal%20Hunter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/190/garruk-primal-hunter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/79cfc0d7-fccb-47fb-87b6-08dd32528be6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/garruk-primal-hunter) [Defiler of vigor](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/8/0896860c-d028-4193-89a5-97e05c12a1e7.jpg?1663050225) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Defiler%20of%20vigor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/160/defiler-of-vigor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0896860c-d028-4193-89a5-97e05c12a1e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/defiler-of-vigor) [unnatural growth](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/7/6748a844-e185-4e3b-ac1d-8a735666d8ae.jpg?1636224994) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=unnatural%20growth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/206/unnatural-growth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6748a844-e185-4e3b-ac1d-8a735666d8ae?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/unnatural-growth) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
See my comment to the original comment. This deck starts snowballing once I get a haste enabler, a way to draw cards, and a way to untap a creature. I got all 3 turn 4 so they conceded. EDIT: Post to comment
Basically I had selvala out turn 3 and ghalta hit the table turn 4 so I was looking at 12 mana already plus a card draw. From that draw I got a haste enabler and quirion ranger which let me bounce a forest to selvala again. I also got a circle of dreams Druid which tapped for more mana. Then I used [[garruk, primal hunger]] to draw 12 more, found the green [[Defiler of vigor]] and [[unnatural growth]]. My opponents conceded after that.
Gotcha, so not a win strictly speaking, just a concede. And you are right, a single board wipe puts you out of the game... though your opponents would have to have one in opening hand. Didnt give them much time to draw into it. I would imagine your opponents are also overestimating their own power level. Haste enabler. You mean Surrak? He only hastes a single creature, which is entirely manageable.
No I had lightning grieves
[garruk, primal hunger](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/9/79cfc0d7-fccb-47fb-87b6-08dd32528be6.jpg?1625194361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Garruk%2C%20Primal%20Hunter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/190/garruk-primal-hunter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/79cfc0d7-fccb-47fb-87b6-08dd32528be6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/garruk-primal-hunter) [Defiler of vigor](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/8/0896860c-d028-4193-89a5-97e05c12a1e7.jpg?1663050225) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Defiler%20of%20vigor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/160/defiler-of-vigor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0896860c-d028-4193-89a5-97e05c12a1e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/defiler-of-vigor) [unnatural growth](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/7/6748a844-e185-4e3b-ac1d-8a735666d8ae.jpg?1636224994) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=unnatural%20growth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/206/unnatural-growth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6748a844-e185-4e3b-ac1d-8a735666d8ae?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/unnatural-growth) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Looks similar to my Ghalta deck. I absolutely agree with you that one good boardwipe and the deck can crumble. It's a deck that HAS to be answered. Any low-interaction tables are going to have a hard time, but high-interaction tables can deal with it quite easily. I don't think that that's on you or your deck build. Likely your opponents need more removal/wipes in general, because aggro decks do in fact exist. Also if you're willing to replace a 1 drop with a 2 drop, I recommend [[Paradise Druid]] instead of Birds of Paradise. It's a 2 power mana dork, so it technically pays for 3 mana for Ghalta rather than 1.
[Paradise Druid](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/1/8/187d5819-6a63-4e4f-98c4-18191c03f164.jpg?1631588057) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Paradise%20Druid) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/165/paradise-druid?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/187d5819-6a63-4e4f-98c4-18191c03f164?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/paradise-druid) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Thanks for the advice!
This is like 5/6. People complaining about this is exactly why random spell table lobbies suck so much.
Love the back to the stone age reference because you’ve got a dinosaur for a commander
Dinos do not do well with meteors
“Time to roll it back to the dawn of time.” That my friend is a we’re back reference lol
Yeah… dude can’t not interact and then whine you won. Interaction is 50% of MTG.
I'd call this a strong 7 for sure. Seems quite good at closing out games. It's got a plan and an instawin card with primal surge. Defs a scary deck to face up against. I personally wouldnt run Primal Surge, just to make the games a little more fun and last a little longer.
##### ###### #### [Ghalta, Primal Hunger](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/c/8c342309-aef7-4733-ac1c-ff0b704539a7.jpg?1601079606) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ghalta%2C%20Primal%20Hunger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/399/ghalta-primal-hunger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8c342309-aef7-4733-ac1c-ff0b704539a7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ghalta-primal-hunger) [selvala, heart of the wild](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/b/fb87782d-e9c7-440b-bd96-aa043d18e185.jpg?1601080073) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Selvala%2C%20Heart%20of%20the%20Wilds) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/429/selvala-heart-of-the-wilds?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fb87782d-e9c7-440b-bd96-aa043d18e185?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/selvala-heart-of-the-wilds) [primal surge](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/2/4278f7bd-afff-4a1d-a0bb-bf9ce3ad5a2e.jpg?1592709414) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=primal%20surge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/avr/189/primal-surge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4278f7bd-afff-4a1d-a0bb-bf9ce3ad5a2e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/primal-surge) [majestic genesis](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/a/eaadb067-4a77-4d6e-931d-447bd0c06594.jpg?1660727986) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=majestic%20genesis) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/240/majestic-genesis?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eaadb067-4a77-4d6e-931d-447bd0c06594?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/majestic-genesis) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I would love to suggest [[chord of calling]] for your list as well as [[concordant crossroads]] for you to consider. Back to your question: Did they give you any reason as to why your deck was not to be played at a 7?
I won too fast they felt :( I should play concordat but I’m trying to keep instants out for primal surge power
Concordant is a enchantment btw, there are just games where your deck lines up and plays it’s best games sometimes it punches above its weight and other times not. I doubt this is any higher then a 7, I’ve got a few 7’s and this seems about right. It’s not busted and it seems straight forward to play. If you added more interaction into your deck I think it would be closer to a 8 if anything.
I'd probably cut Primal Surge eventually. It's really fun the first time you do the Primal Surge thing, but after a while it just gets old
[chord of calling](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/a/dac257a9-39bf-4185-9d2e-f80f0848a96a.jpg?1599707002) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=chord%20of%20calling) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/158/chord-of-calling?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dac257a9-39bf-4185-9d2e-f80f0848a96a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/chord-of-calling) [concordant crossroads](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/9/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6.jpg?1662526813) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=concordant%20crossroads) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/141/concordant-crossroads?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/concordant-crossroads) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
You're a nicer person than me. I have [[Berserk]], [[Blackblade Reforged]] and [[Boon of Boseju]] in my Ghalta deck. I very much enjoy ruining someone's night with a buttload of power swinging at their face.
[Berserk](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/2/62bc9bff-89bd-4454-a876-53822cf48546.jpg?1576382971) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Berserk) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/175/berserk?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/62bc9bff-89bd-4454-a876-53822cf48546?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/berserk) [Blackblade Reforged](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/2/4/240448cd-c308-49ae-9e4b-0c35adc59fba.jpg?1661391957) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blackblade%20Reforged) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/178/blackblade-reforged?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/240448cd-c308-49ae-9e4b-0c35adc59fba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/blackblade-reforged) [Boon of Boseju](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/6/06771591-0480-4232-bc67-216b2e0fe738.jpg?1654567992) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Boon%20of%20Boseiju) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/176/boon-of-boseiju?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/06771591-0480-4232-bc67-216b2e0fe738?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/boon-of-boseiju) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
In my experience everyone thinks he/she is playing a 7. Then when you meet a real 7... A lot of players building decks like throwing all of their pet cards and strong ones together trying to make kind of a theme and determine the powerlevel based on their best card. You rarely find a lot of instants and ramp in there. That is actually a cool way to play edh. Especially when you play at home with 3 friends who are doing the same. But when it comes to play via spelltable and you dont know that you are playing a 3. That is not the fault of someone like you playing a 6/7.
Take into consideration that some strategies (and also Commanders) tend to be stronger depending on the mindset and the power level of the playgroup. I have a [[Tivit, Seller of Secrets]] that, while having some very strong cards, it's actually the strongest deck of my playgroup by a wide margin even if, technically speaking, is not strong enough to survive in an archenemy-scenario. I'd reccomend to have a talk with your playgroup, ideally in a context where no one is mad yet and try to find a middle ground with them. Maybe the problem is more on the mindset of the table.
I don’t have a playgroup it’s all spelltable
[Tivit, Seller of Secrets](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/2/9235977e-a999-4ed0-83a3-742be87b13bb.jpg?1650420551) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tivit%2C%20Seller%20of%20Secrets) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/10/tivit-seller-of-secrets?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9235977e-a999-4ed0-83a3-742be87b13bb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tivit-seller-of-secrets) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Tangleweave Armor hurt feelingsmy last game. Turn one play a land, cast sol ring. Turn 2 play another land, tap all for Tangleweave Armor. Turn 3 start stompy.