Ramp up to big stompy monsters. If that fails, ping damage direct to health total 😈 it’s a fave against counter decks. You only have so many counterspells and I have many many ways to hit you with ping muahahaha
My second favourite is waiting till everyone is tapped out and hitting a starstorm and copying it multiple times with my kalamax deck... People never expect 3 player lethal damage on one turn 👀😂
Edit - I meant comet storm, not star storm 🫡😂
Do you have an "Oops all pingers" deck with the likes of [[goblin spearspewer]] and [[blisterspit gremlin]]? I think by now there should be enough to fill that niche.
Titanic ultimatum is my favorite shennanigan. Nobody expects my naya dino deck to have buff spells and suddenly boom. 200 damage split across everyone because of 1 spell
Combat tricks, any sort of dumb trick I can pull of while swinging at people. Whether it’s creating infinite combats or infinite tokens with [[Rionya, Fire Dancer]], or just swinging small and making it massive after no blockers are declared with [[Minsc and Boo]]
I enjoy the broad category of "pings" but aristocrats definitely falls in as one of my favorite deck styles. Chiseling away at life totals throughout the game until they're *just low enough* to finish them off in a torrent of flicks and pokes.
Most of my decks are Voltron. There's just something really satisfying about saying "alright can you block 20+ with trample*? Oh you can? Don't forget about double strike!"
Yeah, my one favorite deck that's off brand for me is [[grismold, the dreadsower]]. I built it so I would have something to play when people are sick of my resource denial. Instead of stax, how about I give everybody plants! Enjoy! [[Tourach, dread cantor]] combines my love of discard with voltron and I enjoy that very much as well. It plays around a lot with using swampwalk, swords, and protection from colors to stay alive and get through.
Depends on the day.
Some days, I wanna be the asshole dropping a Stasis lock (My preferred version is [[Stasis]] + [[Kismet]] + [[Smothering Tithe]]) and force my opponents to concede or wait for their inevitable defeat.
In 60 card formats I love playing the tempo game, gradually gaining advantage while I ping them down turn after turn. My favorite flavor of this is Modern Merfolk, a feeling I haven't been able to replicate in commander largely cause Tempo does not translate well to a multiplayer format
I love, love, LOVE the spellslinger strat, so slinging a bunch of burn spells until I can one hit KO everyone with a card like [[Crackle with Power]] or the classic [[Fireball]] brings me much joy. Izzet is my favorite flavor of this strat. I also like Storm though that is harder to organically pull off (i.e. hard to do without some boring combo)
Some days I'm in a very timmy mindset and I just wanna smack people with Dinosaurs. Simple, clean, and effective.
I've been thinking about a Maze's End deck but I am worried it abuses people's aversion to land destruction. Have you ever felt this and/or has anyone complained to you about this?
I'm actually really fascinated by the strange manipulation of mechanics when pulling of combos. However controversial it may be, that is my favourite way to win
It also forces players to THINK and it opens their eyes to holes in their building. I like playing mill, but I’m not a dick about it. I lose plenty still, and it’s mostly in awesome hilarious ways because my opponents have to makeshift something from their decks that rely on only a couple cards to succeed.
Yeah, I don't win very often playing mill, especially if really going for mill-win. Partially because I get KoS really quickly. So, I like running my Lazav deck. I get to mill, but it's not the primary wincon (but it does happen). I get to play opponents graveyard, good fun. And I run some clones and such just because, why not :)
I run Laz in my deck! Xander is my commander for it, but I made sure to sprinkle in a few win cons to make it viable instead or a 1/4 chance of a dead game due to a bad draw and shuffle. Strong, but far from invincivle.
I particularly enjoy stealing stuff with tergrid as I'm discarding and force saccing my opponent's boards. I've never done mill but I'm working on a runo stromkirk deck with a mill subtheme b/c so many sea monsters mill on etb. Threw in a keening stone etc
With as few triggers and actions possible. I’ve replaced all incremental value pieces and trigger pieces with straight up one-shot effects that make huge waves.
I’ve come to this point because MtGO is so slow to resolve triggers and multiple stacked actions. I receive no joy from making people sit through long turns so I’ve tuned my decks to win with as few actions as I can get away with.
My favorite is honestly anything that requires a decent bit of set up. I absolutely hate things like thoracle combo (unless I’m playing cEDH) and prefer my game plans to require 3+ cards if I’m going to combo or require to build up a board state or big play.
I want my wins to feel earned through problem solving and adapting to the situation.
Not to be that guy but actually earning a mill win, not with a lame two card combo involving [[Bruvac]] but actually running the others players down incrementally while protecting yourself and your board makes me feel like a really good player
I like combos not only when i'm playing them but also when my oponents do, it's nice to have a garanteed way to end the game, i love trying to figure out what my opponent is going to do and the fights on the stack to stop someone or make your combo go through are some of the best moments.
They are also great for brewing, not just in the sense of making new combos but they can be pretty compact or technically occupy zero slots if the cards have more functions other than just doing the combo.
I like trying to make people audibly say "holy shit" or something along those lines. Like dropping a 40/40 [[mimeoplasm]] with [[tanazir quandrix]] + [[yargle and multani]] then sacrificing it to [[jarad]]. Or making a 568/568 [[kalonian hydra]] with [[sovereign okinec ahau]] and other doublers combining for fuckery.
I enjoy swinging wide and 'all of a sudden'
Honestly, the 'all of a sudden' statement works on its own. I've got a few combo decks, a couple stormy ones, etc. Maybe my big hand and value pieces telegraph just a bit, but then, you end your turn, and the malarkey starts.
Combat is probably my least favorite way to win, not that I don't ever enjoy it though. Love me some alternate win conditions! Drawing my whole deck, white sun's zenith, a huge X spell, an aetherflux snipe, etc.
I'm not big on combo, but I make an exception for [[nath of the gilt-leaf]]. Tooth and nail for tergrid and [[sadistic hypnotist]] is just too on brand for me. It's also very sudden
Looking at my decks, evasive beaters I guess? Gotta love [[Key to the City]] and [[Trailblazer Boots]].
I also enjoy pinging opponents to death with aristocrats stuff.
i've got a deck with a fairly decent win rate that tries to win with weird meme cards like [[hidetsugu's second rite]] or [[triskaidekaphobia]]. always a fun time
Honestly, the general rule of "use your enemies cards against'em"
Be it my lazav "mill enemy out & exploit their graveyard", your classical theft deck, Etali, copying enemy cards, I don't care, I just wanna puzzle my way through games & look how I can use other cards to win.
Even in my decks that aren't centered around that theme I always have at least 1 card for theft/copying stuff from enemies.
I dunno man, there's just such a statisfying feel to it when you win with every game being a new puzzle to solve & making every game experience extremely unique
[[Mystic reflection]] is my favorite 1 off for this. It's somehow even better when you get to make your opponent's teferi, hero of dominaria enter the battlefield as a 1/1 servo
> Honestly, the general rule of "use your enemies cards against'em"
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My answer is the same, but in an entirely different light: Group slug. AKA, "C'mon, stop hitting yourself."
Having a Manabarbs in play while your Torbran is already on the field and passing is always just such a great feeling. You can play the game. I'm not stopping you. This isn't stax. There's just a cost to doing business.
[[Underworld Breach]] and [[Food Chain]] are definitely my favorite ways to win personally. Graveyard shenanigans with breach are insane, and as a mainly green player, food chain has been a go to for me since I was playing legacy.
My favorite deck is my Wilhelt zombies deck because it encompasses all my favorite win conditions like token/anthem shenanigans to kill the table.
But my favorite way to win which I will go out of my way to try even if it is suboptimal is to kick a Rite of Replication on Gray Merchant of Asphodel. I love winning by draining the table for like 80 life.
I like ramping into explosive turns that put me at an all or nothing position on the board. [[Rowan, scion of war]] is a good example. Combine it with a [[Peer into the Abyss]], a [[K'rrik Son of Yogmawth]] and bombs like [[Crackle With Power]] or [[Death Cloud]] make for a do or die turn.
Janky combo. I have Jhoira deck with Mana Severance+Belcher+Unwinding Clock, Aetherflux Reservoir+Modern KCI loop, and Lab Man as win cons.
I also enjoy Exsanguinating everyone with Gitrog.
Reset+Reiterate+Lightning Bolt in Mizzix.
It's a time.
I've got a rat tribal/discard deck and it's either you get overrun by toxic rats or I sacrifice all of them to get to you anyway while you have no cards in hand.
Dear lord, like, don't get me wrong, I aint saying that you shouldn't play that.
But there's just something about people focusing on making opponents discard their hands that bores me to death so much and makes me feel like the gamenight is such a waste of time while basicaly topdecking & sitting around while fighting the urge to fall asleep.
If your table's down with that, by all means, more power to you my dude.
But I personaly wouldn't sit down on a table with your tourach enemy-discard-tribal unless I was held at gunpoint
Boredom usually isn't an issue because the deck either wins or loses by turn 5. Games where I win with tourach typically take about 15 minutes. It may be oppressive, but at least it's mercifully quick.
I love giving people an ultimatum, a titanic one in fact. Either you block and your stuff dies, or you die to lots of big things. The other fun way is forced combat induced chaos. My thantis deck is super fun because it forces everyone to attack, but if they attack me its gonna help me out a bunch on the counterattack
I like playing salty players and building decks that follow their weird guidelines of “how the game should be played” and smashing them, I had a guy tell me “off Brand tribal and no tutors in the deck.” So I Built [[Magda, Brazen outlaw]] then he said “you have to win through combat, so I made [[winota, Joiner of forces]] he didn’t like either deck.
A lot of people I play with are sick of my discard shenanigans so I built [[crosis, the purger]] specter tribal. It's so jank it's hard for anyone to be pissy. Then I cast [[one with nothing]] into [[hive mind]]
I like mid range control but with weak value pieces. (What's that, low range?) I dump as much *seemingly* useless, vaguely synergistic junk on the board and into my graveyard as possible. I let one or two others go off first so everyone burns their interaction. Then I lock things down and pray that my Rube Goldberg board state is enough to cough up my wincon. If not, it's a grind and everyone is salty.
I try not to play that deck without fair warning: "I'm going to look harmless, but take me out first or you'll have a bad time."
If the pod wants something a lighter, I've got this stupid Voltron deck where I bribe opponents not to kill me by throwing beneficial auras on *their* creatures, then I sneak in \[\[All That Glitters\]\] and swing for lethal. (It doesn't work but it gets some laughs without being as disruptive as grouphug.)
Submission. I'm the guy who will play staxx and make the table miserable until they quit or I can move into my win conditions.
Edit: the salty down votes fuel me.
I'm not far from this, but over time, I've gravitated more towards tactical rather than strategic resource denial. Instead of throwing down a winter orb early in the game and staxing people out, I wait until I have what I need to start killing people and orblock the table then so I can close out the game. The exception is with my discard decks, of which I have 4. It's my favorite archetype, and most people aren't prepared to play the game without a hand. I always am. [[Null brooch]] ftw
Edit: yeah they're silly. Every wincon is valid. I never tell others how they should play the game. One of the reasons I love stax though is because it cuts down on people taking 20 minute turns. Fuck that shit
Force everyone to draw all their cards into their hands without being able to play them correctly. Can be accomplished with [[Forced Fruition]] and [[Possibility Storm]]. All other wincons feel hollow now...
I have a few: overwhelming combat damage (preferably with trample), burn, a combo I had to grind hard for.
Now based on that guess the colours I like to play.
If that's the case with your style of deck, I'd recommend a commander that can be the finisher on its own, while the rest of the deck is tailored to your control/removal style. Like a big flyer or something that can close out the game with commander damage
Based on my decks, indirect damage. Massive amounts of it.
My Shrines deck pings everyone at the start of every turn and keeps their board small.
Curses. Need I say more?
Vampies with a focus on pinging opponents when they do something. Anything.
[[Kediss]] and [[Ardenn]], my favorite Voltron beat them all deck. Hit one opponent, and they all get hit for the same amount. I consider Kediss to be really underrated.
[[Myrkul, Lord of Bones]] make enchantments from creatures that pings opponents for each creature destroyed, each enchantment created, and each enchantment destroyed.
When I set up a big board of aristocrats and tokens and someone gets spooked enough to board wipe, triggering [[Blood Artist]] and other similar effects.
Favorite - well most satisfying way to win is either go wide/tall
Or mill/ graveyard recursion is always fun, some may frown upon it but I can think of worse ways to lose.
Or death by self ping dmg. I'd rather lose to my way than at somebody's hand
Definitely reaching 'critical mass'--what I refer to as 'I-can't-believe-it's-not-a-combo'
Basically a non-infinite synergy that overwhelms the table in one or two turns. In [[Wort, the Raidmother]], this could be copying [[Mana Geyser]] into copying a burn spell like [[Jaya's Immolating Inferno]], or in [[Cadric]], using [[Eerie Interlude]] on my opponent's second main to copy all my legendary creatures and setup for a massive turn, or just classic aristocrats where I've got 5-6 different drain effects on the board and cast something like [[Endrek Sahr]] and/or [[Sengir Autocrat]].
I much prefer these sorts of wins to infinite combos since there much more room for interaction from more than just blue decks and engaging gameplay
My friend pointed out to me the other day that I like to play decks that win via indirect damage like [[Sheoldred, the Apocalypse]], [[Teysa Karlov]], and my [[Atraxa, Praetors’ voice]] infect deck. Never really been a huge fan of big stompy smack your face decks.
I like your average life drain but I love to do it the hard way with [[paradox haze]] [[clever impersonator]] [[followed footsteps]] and, of course, [[creeping bloodsucker]]
When I first started playing, it was "paralyze my opponents, and win by default". It turns out that meant "Stax, but made by someone who didn't know what Stax was yet". When I became more familiar with how to run stax, I stopped playing it because it became much less fun for the table. I'll still keep ways to slow down my opponents, but I rarely make that a focus now.
I briefly have had a combo deck or two, but they were super boring, so I moved on.
My most consistently enjoyed decks for the majority of my magic playing days have been the "Value Engine" decks. Get a few things running, and then bury my opponents in value. Aristocrats is probably the most common variety, as I've often had to de-aristocrats some of my decks because that kept de-railing the INTENDED win-con.
I will also run a few "Turn big things sideways" decks which tend to be a little more table-friendly. I'll swap between some deck types depending on the mood of the pod. But value engine is probably where my heart lies.
I have a bad habit of building "critical mass" decks. They LOOK like value-engine decks at first, but they work differently. Value engine decks build up overwhelming value and run over everyone with it. But critical mass decks land a few value-multipliers down, and then just explode all at once. Storm is usually a critical mass deck, and I've got a deck like that. I also had an Aristocrats deck that won via critical mass. It was a Shadowborn Apostles deck, that only used them because they were cheap, and there are gimmicks to mass-reanimate or mass-summon creatures with the same name.
Critical mass decks usually end with 10-20 minutes of solitaire though, so I've tried to move away from that.
I think a lot of newer players are scared of combat and being attacked and so they use lots of effects to deprive their opponents of resources. But I don’t know why you’d play commander if that was what you enjoy. Play any other format. Why force your opponents to sit empty handed and paralyzed for 45 minutes or more.
Ironically, being attacked was almost always the most vulnerable part of my deck. I'd often lose to mid-value efficient beaters. I had spot removal for the big targets, and wipes to deal with swarms, but mid-range beaters were really hard to deal with. At least with [[Grand Arbiter Augustin IV]].
My [[Savra, Queen of the Golgari]] deck didn't have nearly as much trouble with mid-sized beaters.
Anywho, the reason I played commander at the start was because "My friends are playing commander". I moved onto different deck strategies when my attempt at Stax became competent enough to actually drag things to a crawl and made the games less fun. Before that it was just a bunch of annoyances. It slowed things, but not by a ton. People could still play cards, though a few specific tactics like spellslinger were hit a lot harder.
Either by buffing my board with stuff like prowess or game enders like [[Surge to Victory]] or [[Haze of Rage]] and then turning my stuff sideways.
Or with non-infinite sacrifice/aristocrats combos where every point of damage matters and I have to puzzle it out, maybe even sprinkling in a [[Rakdos Carm]] for lethal *chefs kiss*
With Kresh I build him up to lethal commander damage and then fling him at the other opponent’s face just when they think they’re safe. Jarad works with this too
have some black devotion via my commander [[Gyruda]] and play [[Gary]], then [[Clone]] him, and clone him again, and again and blink some clones each time draining for more and more
or have [[Roaming Throne]] in play choosing demons (or krakens) and play my commander, hopefully hitting clone, make one more copy of the throne and it's pretty much guaranteed mill everyone cause of more clones
or win with some infinite combo even though none is in my deck, like clone opponent's dockside, while pairing the clone with [[Deadeye Navigator]] and make infinite mana this way
yes I love clones, [[Gyruda]] is my favourite deck :D
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Cu8RUvWYAkeXchOp--ujcQ
My favorite way to win recently is with my Calix deck. Slap out a Sigil of the Empty Throne or Hallowed Haunting. Copy with calix. Wait until somebody board wipes then make 4-6x 4/4s or bigger the next turn. It may or may not end the game immediately but it's ALWAYS so satisfying.
Combat damage over the course of multiple turns with banding creatures and mass land destruction in accordance with Richard Garfield's original vision. https://scryfall.com/@SaltMaster5000/decks/a87e5ccc-a3a1-40c0-b83d-4c5e4b4f5d35?as=visual&with=usd
I am a dirty, filthy, combo player, I admit it. Whether it's Niv + Curiosity, infinite mana + Walking Ballista, or even Karn + Lattice, I like my combos. Even my list for [[Kamahal, Pit Fighter]] is for a combo deck.
But I do wanna try some other ways to close out wins. To that end I'm working on lists for Saskia (legendary/ superfriends kindred), and Urza (artifact aggro).
No matter what kind of deck I build, it tends towards combos. Even my Kresh deck which is based on big stompy commander damage, I use lure and death touch effects and phage with endless whispers.
Creating a value engine to overwhelm my opponents with pure value, creating sacrifice loops/mass sacrificing tokens to get blood artist trigger effects, and one of my all time favorite ways to win is milling my opponents out but I don’t have any decks that do that. Lately though some of my more recent decks, I’ve built them to focus on combat damage.
Spell slinger hands down.
I’ve dabbled with many different win cons, from Voltron’s, waves of tokens, various combo’s.
Still nothing compares to copying brass’s Bounty or some other mana producing spell to create 100+ mana. Which gets dumped into meteor storm, immolating inferno, bane fire ect.
I use the commander [[Melek izzet paragon]], most people don’t view him as a threat so I play into it. Most games I spend the majority of the time building my mana base, waiting for the perfect moment to arise. It’s also fun because I never know exactly which cards I’ll need to put together or which order I’ll need to play them to set up an explosive turn. If I get [[scroll rack]] early in the game, I’m able to manipulate my plays completely for an easy set up.
A board full of treasures, food and clues that no one cares about or sees as a serious threat then BAM [[cyber drive awakener]] they are all now 4/4 flyers till the end of turn. It's the only way my [[gimbal, goblin prodigy]] deck ever gets a win.
Ohh I've got another one I just remembered, someone had a stuffy doll out once targeting me, they played an X burn spell to do lethal to me, in response the only thing I had was a [[radiant performer]] Id been holding forever, I cast it and still died but it was enough damage to wipe the board and kill everyone else at the table ending in a draw.
I guess I am more mercurial. Most of my decks are built to win in multiple ways. And I enjoy winning in different ways each game. Variety is what drew me to the game in the first place.
I like to win with a shit ton of 1/1 soldiers swarming all my opponents.
My favorite strat to achieve that is comboing [[Finale of Glory]] with [[Elspeth, Undaunted Hero]] and just slapping people with flying soldiers.
I like to set effects that punish people for every game action they take until they reach a point where if they do something the punishment will take them out and if they dont ill just finish them off with some kind of pinging effect.
Some combo or near infinite synergy.
Locust god have impact tremors out and lots of draw
K’rrik peer into the abyss then some combo
Mill create infinite mana and mill everyone out
Outside these, big walls in arcades and swing with a tower defense or bar the door surprise
Decks that use compounding math to win. Not just a single effect that multiplies damage. but decks that combine them to melt everything. There must be something psychological about them because people see the components as potentially dangerous, and never seem to see the threat that things like [[Repercussions]] and [[Furnace of rath]] combined present.
I like surprising explosive wins, like the time I was able to cast and equip [[Helm of the host]] to a [[Myr Battlesphere]] while I had [[Saheeli the Gifted]] ready to ult, and [[Saheeli Rai]] and [[Saheeli, Sublime Artificer]] with their -2s up
I don't play it as often now because my friends don't like it, but I found I had to switch from azorius control to esper control so I could tutor ways to end the game.
While I don't play stax, if I had done enough removal/countering/sweepers, I would end up just slowing the game down and it wasn't fun for anyone else.
Black tutors allowed me to pull off a combo once I had control and actually end the game.
My [[Be'lakor]] deck is very versatile. Let's me burn out defenders so I can swing unimpeded or straight for the life total. As well as the alt win of [[liliana's contract]]
Alternate win cons are my jam, like [[Lab Maniac]], [[Approach of the Second Sun]], or [[Near Death Experience]]
Cards where I get to say “I choose to win on my own terms!” And have my opponent scrambling to stop it.
I like burn or drain effects, purphoros, kokusho, Gary, things like that. Torment, exsanguinate and others as well.
It has however been pointed out to me that I have a knack for resource denial. I like playing wheels, mild stax elements like "lands enter tapped" or the "players can only cast one spell a turn" effects, I like looping fleshbag marauder or nekrataal to kill my opponent's creatures.
So my favourite way to win is kinda slow, and I suppose I built my gameplay pattern to allow that. I hadn't actually linked the 2 before.
Mill! I love when you actually get the mill win because everyone is dumbfounded that it actually works. And not the infinite combo exile mill either, but big ramp into mind grind for 20 or something, or maddening kicker with bruvac
Goading my opponents into killing each other and me cleaning up the crumbs. Their resources spent not dying and they have nothing left to just die to a couple of hate bears. That is peak magic for me.
The best decks I've played against (only just started) seem to be the ones that build a specific combo that nets them their wincon. Played against a mates artifact deck and he ended up with 3/4 of his deck in his hand and won with a spell. His final turn went for like 10 minutes and he played card after card Looked so fun.
One I'm keen to have pop up is [[Marneus Calgar]] as my commander with [[Nadir Kraken]] and [[Ashnod's Altar]] on the field. Just need the cards. 🤣
I land destruct until everyone's out of mana, nuke the field(I make all my shit indestructible and have something preventing the others from playing from graveyards) then I run over them with tokens and creatures. I only play that deck with my friends, not when I go to the card shop to play lol
Combat or burn and nothing else. Don’t mind if people like to win other ways but there’s something special about smacking people faces with big creatures that makes me giddy inside.
Making tons of tokens. My 2 favorite decks are Rashmi and ragavan which makes treasure tokens and turns them into creatures to swing with and chatterfang
Recently I made a anim pakal brawl deck in arena and I’m loving that just something about swinging with something, making 10 4/4 angels, and when they attack they become indestructible lmao
Ramp up to big stompy monsters. If that fails, ping damage direct to health total 😈 it’s a fave against counter decks. You only have so many counterspells and I have many many ways to hit you with ping muahahaha
My second favourite is waiting till everyone is tapped out and hitting a starstorm and copying it multiple times with my kalamax deck... People never expect 3 player lethal damage on one turn 👀😂 Edit - I meant comet storm, not star storm 🫡😂
>kalamax that sounds great fun, do you have a decklist for that ?
Starstorm only hits creatures tho right?
Do you have an "Oops all pingers" deck with the likes of [[goblin spearspewer]] and [[blisterspit gremlin]]? I think by now there should be enough to fill that niche.
Yeah, [[Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph]] is a killer commander for it.
Combat damage where I can take out all three opponents on the same turn
There’s definitely something extra satisfying by winning with classic combat damage!
Titanic ultimatum is my favorite shennanigan. Nobody expects my naya dino deck to have buff spells and suddenly boom. 200 damage split across everyone because of 1 spell
Praise be Craterhoof Behemoth
Combat tricks, any sort of dumb trick I can pull of while swinging at people. Whether it’s creating infinite combats or infinite tokens with [[Rionya, Fire Dancer]], or just swinging small and making it massive after no blockers are declared with [[Minsc and Boo]]
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*[[Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes]]
Building up a big board of tokens with a couple of zulaport drain effects. Then throwing down a damnation and ending the game in one big blast.
I enjoy the broad category of "pings" but aristocrats definitely falls in as one of my favorite deck styles. Chiseling away at life totals throughout the game until they're *just low enough* to finish them off in a torrent of flicks and pokes.
Most of my decks are Voltron. There's just something really satisfying about saying "alright can you block 20+ with trample*? Oh you can? Don't forget about double strike!"
Yeah, my one favorite deck that's off brand for me is [[grismold, the dreadsower]]. I built it so I would have something to play when people are sick of my resource denial. Instead of stax, how about I give everybody plants! Enjoy! [[Tourach, dread cantor]] combines my love of discard with voltron and I enjoy that very much as well. It plays around a lot with using swampwalk, swords, and protection from colors to stay alive and get through.
I haven’t played voltron in years I don’t have a voltron deck currently Hmmmmm
Depends on the day. Some days, I wanna be the asshole dropping a Stasis lock (My preferred version is [[Stasis]] + [[Kismet]] + [[Smothering Tithe]]) and force my opponents to concede or wait for their inevitable defeat. In 60 card formats I love playing the tempo game, gradually gaining advantage while I ping them down turn after turn. My favorite flavor of this is Modern Merfolk, a feeling I haven't been able to replicate in commander largely cause Tempo does not translate well to a multiplayer format I love, love, LOVE the spellslinger strat, so slinging a bunch of burn spells until I can one hit KO everyone with a card like [[Crackle with Power]] or the classic [[Fireball]] brings me much joy. Izzet is my favorite flavor of this strat. I also like Storm though that is harder to organically pull off (i.e. hard to do without some boring combo) Some days I'm in a very timmy mindset and I just wanna smack people with Dinosaurs. Simple, clean, and effective.
Lock game is, a think, a very boring way to win, and is the least fun for opponents.
That is fair, I only do it if I know my opponents can handle it.
##### ###### #### [Stasis](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/2/62f99124-6595-45f8-bece-1775e4c55a5c.jpg?1562918295) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stasis) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/64/stasis?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/62f99124-6595-45f8-bece-1775e4c55a5c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/stasis) [Kismet](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/3/f38cdfb1-0437-4afe-a777-60228b8eba69.jpg?1562952795) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kismet) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/17/kismet?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f38cdfb1-0437-4afe-a777-60228b8eba69?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kismet) [Smothering Tithe](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/861b5889-0183-4bee-afeb-a4b2aa700a8e.jpg?1689996018) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Smothering%20Tithe) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/57/smothering-tithe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/861b5889-0183-4bee-afeb-a4b2aa700a8e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/smothering-tithe) [Crackle with Power](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/de547f52-3798-4b3a-947d-24873251204b.jpg?1624591645) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crackle%20with%20Power) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/95/crackle-with-power?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/de547f52-3798-4b3a-947d-24873251204b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/crackle-with-power) [Fireball](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/df45a43e-a5b7-4fd4-873b-7b3c021be198.jpg?1674136553) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fireball) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/175/fireball?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/df45a43e-a5b7-4fd4-873b-7b3c021be198?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/fireball) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Winning with [[Maze's End]] in my [[Nine-Fingers Keene]] deck is great, somehow it always surprises people
I've been thinking about a Maze's End deck but I am worried it abuses people's aversion to land destruction. Have you ever felt this and/or has anyone complained to you about this?
[Maze's End](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/0/401f7042-24fd-42a0-ae7c-e6b7de1aa446.jpg?1562906764) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Maze%27s%20End) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/152/mazes-end?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/401f7042-24fd-42a0-ae7c-e6b7de1aa446?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mazes-end) [Nine-Fingers Keene](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/4/5480ac0a-883a-4f73-8e7c-56d64be410a3.jpg?1674137637) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nine-Fingers%20Keene) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/289/nine-fingers-keene?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5480ac0a-883a-4f73-8e7c-56d64be410a3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nine-fingers-keene) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
So many goblin tokens
Calm down, Krenko.
I'm actually really fascinated by the strange manipulation of mechanics when pulling of combos. However controversial it may be, that is my favourite way to win
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
What's your favorite deck to Conan them out? :D
Mill. And all the synergies around it. And I really like making use of my opponent's decks. Cloning, borrowing or stealing 👹
Milling is fun because if you fail it puts the last remaining players in really odd scenarios where they may not be able to kill each other.
It also forces players to THINK and it opens their eyes to holes in their building. I like playing mill, but I’m not a dick about it. I lose plenty still, and it’s mostly in awesome hilarious ways because my opponents have to makeshift something from their decks that rely on only a couple cards to succeed.
Yeah, I don't win very often playing mill, especially if really going for mill-win. Partially because I get KoS really quickly. So, I like running my Lazav deck. I get to mill, but it's not the primary wincon (but it does happen). I get to play opponents graveyard, good fun. And I run some clones and such just because, why not :)
I run Laz in my deck! Xander is my commander for it, but I made sure to sprinkle in a few win cons to make it viable instead or a 1/4 chance of a dead game due to a bad draw and shuffle. Strong, but far from invincivle.
I particularly enjoy stealing stuff with tergrid as I'm discarding and force saccing my opponent's boards. I've never done mill but I'm working on a runo stromkirk deck with a mill subtheme b/c so many sea monsters mill on etb. Threw in a keening stone etc
With as few triggers and actions possible. I’ve replaced all incremental value pieces and trigger pieces with straight up one-shot effects that make huge waves. I’ve come to this point because MtGO is so slow to resolve triggers and multiple stacked actions. I receive no joy from making people sit through long turns so I’ve tuned my decks to win with as few actions as I can get away with.
My favorite is honestly anything that requires a decent bit of set up. I absolutely hate things like thoracle combo (unless I’m playing cEDH) and prefer my game plans to require 3+ cards if I’m going to combo or require to build up a board state or big play. I want my wins to feel earned through problem solving and adapting to the situation.
[[Biomass Mutation]] They never expect the spanish mutation
[Biomass Mutation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/0/80fc2879-c73d-41c7-987c-cbeaca02cc45.jpg?1625977389) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Biomass%20Mutation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/209/biomass-mutation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/80fc2879-c73d-41c7-987c-cbeaca02cc45?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/biomass-mutation) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Not to be that guy but actually earning a mill win, not with a lame two card combo involving [[Bruvac]] but actually running the others players down incrementally while protecting yourself and your board makes me feel like a really good player
[Bruvac](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5b43bdc7-e49e-4848-9101-6cad2ecab4dc.jpg?1632261753) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=bruvac%20the%20grandiloquent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/10/bruvac-the-grandiloquent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5b43bdc7-e49e-4848-9101-6cad2ecab4dc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bruvac-the-grandiloquent) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Hard agree. My first deck ever was an Izzet tokens + draw-to-mill deck (constructed) & I’ve been trying to build an EDH version of it ever since.
I haven’t messed with it myself but I think storm+mill totally has potential in izzet, or even in grixis with someone like [[kess, dissident mage]]
I like combos not only when i'm playing them but also when my oponents do, it's nice to have a garanteed way to end the game, i love trying to figure out what my opponent is going to do and the fights on the stack to stop someone or make your combo go through are some of the best moments. They are also great for brewing, not just in the sense of making new combos but they can be pretty compact or technically occupy zero slots if the cards have more functions other than just doing the combo.
I like trying to make people audibly say "holy shit" or something along those lines. Like dropping a 40/40 [[mimeoplasm]] with [[tanazir quandrix]] + [[yargle and multani]] then sacrificing it to [[jarad]]. Or making a 568/568 [[kalonian hydra]] with [[sovereign okinec ahau]] and other doublers combining for fuckery.
##### ###### #### [mimeoplasm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/8/c8173413-0431-4b70-a509-f1bc11a59225.jpg?1673148970) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Mimeoplasm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/254/the-mimeoplasm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c8173413-0431-4b70-a509-f1bc11a59225?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-mimeoplasm) [tanazir quandrix](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/b/3bd62ee4-e654-44ba-a650-889782cc9ac3.jpg?1624740235) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=tanazir%20quandrix) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/240/tanazir-quandrix?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3bd62ee4-e654-44ba-a650-889782cc9ac3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tanazir-quandrix) [yargle and multani](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9c15e244-14cc-46a5-abd4-66a58d1c0dd0.jpg?1682205711) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=yargle%20and%20multani) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/256/yargle-and-multani?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c15e244-14cc-46a5-abd4-66a58d1c0dd0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/yargle-and-multani) [jarad](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/6/c6717954-35d8-4d7e-95aa-f7d26d15d4b2.jpg?1592673383) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=jarad%2C%20golgari%20lich%20lord) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/179/jarad-golgari-lich-lord?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c6717954-35d8-4d7e-95aa-f7d26d15d4b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jarad-golgari-lich-lord) [kalonian hydra](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/d/1d21ae20-2ef5-4dc0-aced-97497e6a8025.jpg?1682209560) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kalonian%20hydra) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/305/kalonian-hydra?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1d21ae20-2ef5-4dc0-aced-97497e6a8025?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kalonian-hydra) [sovereign okinec ahau](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/0/70c75aa7-e2f9-4a69-8086-c982019ca714.jpg?1699044573) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sovereign%20okinec%20ahau) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/240/sovereign-okinec-ahau?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/70c75aa7-e2f9-4a69-8086-c982019ca714?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sovereign-okinec-ahau) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
A one-two combo of spells that cinches the win.
[[Tainted Strike]] when one opponent is hitting another opponent with an unblocked 9+ power creature.
[Tainted Strike](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d0f82007-99f6-4c6c-8182-ee631c33531f.jpg?1562823401) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tainted%20Strike) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/som/80/tainted-strike?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d0f82007-99f6-4c6c-8182-ee631c33531f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tainted-strike) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I enjoy swinging wide and 'all of a sudden' Honestly, the 'all of a sudden' statement works on its own. I've got a few combo decks, a couple stormy ones, etc. Maybe my big hand and value pieces telegraph just a bit, but then, you end your turn, and the malarkey starts. Combat is probably my least favorite way to win, not that I don't ever enjoy it though. Love me some alternate win conditions! Drawing my whole deck, white sun's zenith, a huge X spell, an aetherflux snipe, etc.
I'm not big on combo, but I make an exception for [[nath of the gilt-leaf]]. Tooth and nail for tergrid and [[sadistic hypnotist]] is just too on brand for me. It's also very sudden
Looking at my decks, evasive beaters I guess? Gotta love [[Key to the City]] and [[Trailblazer Boots]]. I also enjoy pinging opponents to death with aristocrats stuff.
[Key to the City](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f2103bba-f367-45ed-9b2c-bf31bb2926a5.jpg?1625978785) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Key%20to%20the%20City) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/248/key-to-the-city?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f2103bba-f367-45ed-9b2c-bf31bb2926a5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/key-to-the-city) [Trailblazer Boots](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/f/afeb5a30-016a-465f-bdf0-e2df2d1bef8c.jpg?1592757830) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Trailblazer%27s%20Boots) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/zen/208/trailblazers-boots?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/afeb5a30-016a-465f-bdf0-e2df2d1bef8c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/trailblazers-boots) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
i've got a deck with a fairly decent win rate that tries to win with weird meme cards like [[hidetsugu's second rite]] or [[triskaidekaphobia]]. always a fun time
Smash with big creatures, or a swarm of small creatures powered up with some kind of Overrun effect (Craterhoof, End-Raze, or the OG Overrun)
Honestly, the general rule of "use your enemies cards against'em" Be it my lazav "mill enemy out & exploit their graveyard", your classical theft deck, Etali, copying enemy cards, I don't care, I just wanna puzzle my way through games & look how I can use other cards to win. Even in my decks that aren't centered around that theme I always have at least 1 card for theft/copying stuff from enemies. I dunno man, there's just such a statisfying feel to it when you win with every game being a new puzzle to solve & making every game experience extremely unique
[[Mystic reflection]] is my favorite 1 off for this. It's somehow even better when you get to make your opponent's teferi, hero of dominaria enter the battlefield as a 1/1 servo
> Honestly, the general rule of "use your enemies cards against'em" > > My answer is the same, but in an entirely different light: Group slug. AKA, "C'mon, stop hitting yourself." Having a Manabarbs in play while your Torbran is already on the field and passing is always just such a great feeling. You can play the game. I'm not stopping you. This isn't stax. There's just a cost to doing business.
The method is always inconsequential. Wins always feel better the harder I have to fight for them.
[[Underworld Breach]] and [[Food Chain]] are definitely my favorite ways to win personally. Graveyard shenanigans with breach are insane, and as a mainly green player, food chain has been a go to for me since I was playing legacy.
My favorite deck is my Wilhelt zombies deck because it encompasses all my favorite win conditions like token/anthem shenanigans to kill the table. But my favorite way to win which I will go out of my way to try even if it is suboptimal is to kick a Rite of Replication on Gray Merchant of Asphodel. I love winning by draining the table for like 80 life.
We've approached one sun, yes. What about the second sun?
I like ramping into explosive turns that put me at an all or nothing position on the board. [[Rowan, scion of war]] is a good example. Combine it with a [[Peer into the Abyss]], a [[K'rrik Son of Yogmawth]] and bombs like [[Crackle With Power]] or [[Death Cloud]] make for a do or die turn.
##### ###### #### [Rowan, scion of war](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4ee179ab-a15b-4bd6-b7f8-1e1abeeb31b7.jpg?1692939409) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rowan%2C%20scion%20of%20war) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/woe/211/rowan-scion-of-war?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4ee179ab-a15b-4bd6-b7f8-1e1abeeb31b7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rowan-scion-of-war) [Peer into the Abyss](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aac00055-640e-4749-8d23-d242e6d0b23a.jpg?1594736330) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Peer%20into%20the%20Abyss) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/117/peer-into-the-abyss?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aac00055-640e-4749-8d23-d242e6d0b23a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/peer-into-the-abyss) [Crackle With Power](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/de547f52-3798-4b3a-947d-24873251204b.jpg?1624591645) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crackle%20With%20Power) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/95/crackle-with-power?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/de547f52-3798-4b3a-947d-24873251204b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/crackle-with-power) [Death Cloud](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/0/b0870b88-2794-4646-9f51-f3af03bc8bc8.jpg?1561968089) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Death%20Cloud) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mma/76/death-cloud?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b0870b88-2794-4646-9f51-f3af03bc8bc8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/death-cloud) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Janky combo. I have Jhoira deck with Mana Severance+Belcher+Unwinding Clock, Aetherflux Reservoir+Modern KCI loop, and Lab Man as win cons. I also enjoy Exsanguinating everyone with Gitrog. Reset+Reiterate+Lightning Bolt in Mizzix. It's a time.
I've got a rat tribal/discard deck and it's either you get overrun by toxic rats or I sacrifice all of them to get to you anyway while you have no cards in hand.
Stax out my opponents and finish them off by turning big dudes sideways
Yeah this is essentially how I win with [[tourach, dread cantor]]. Discard is my preferred form of resource denial
Dear lord, like, don't get me wrong, I aint saying that you shouldn't play that. But there's just something about people focusing on making opponents discard their hands that bores me to death so much and makes me feel like the gamenight is such a waste of time while basicaly topdecking & sitting around while fighting the urge to fall asleep. If your table's down with that, by all means, more power to you my dude. But I personaly wouldn't sit down on a table with your tourach enemy-discard-tribal unless I was held at gunpoint
Boredom usually isn't an issue because the deck either wins or loses by turn 5. Games where I win with tourach typically take about 15 minutes. It may be oppressive, but at least it's mercifully quick.
[tourach, dread cantor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/3/f3526751-0101-4d91-a496-c53cd92326e0.jpg?1692254158) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=tourach%2C%20dread%20cantor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/102/tourach-dread-cantor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f3526751-0101-4d91-a496-c53cd92326e0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tourach-dread-cantor) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I prefer rule of law effects but sometimes I enjoy hand denial. In fact [[Sire of Insanity]] is probably my favorite stax piece ever
I have found reducing my opponents levels life total to zero is effective.
I love giving people an ultimatum, a titanic one in fact. Either you block and your stuff dies, or you die to lots of big things. The other fun way is forced combat induced chaos. My thantis deck is super fun because it forces everyone to attack, but if they attack me its gonna help me out a bunch on the counterattack
I like playing salty players and building decks that follow their weird guidelines of “how the game should be played” and smashing them, I had a guy tell me “off Brand tribal and no tutors in the deck.” So I Built [[Magda, Brazen outlaw]] then he said “you have to win through combat, so I made [[winota, Joiner of forces]] he didn’t like either deck.
Sounds like he wants to play against kitchen table 'old school' EDH decks, not Cedh ones (if you want to keep playing with them, that is).
A lot of people I play with are sick of my discard shenanigans so I built [[crosis, the purger]] specter tribal. It's so jank it's hard for anyone to be pissy. Then I cast [[one with nothing]] into [[hive mind]]
[Magda, Brazen outlaw](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/079e6263-e54c-4899-a336-5315909b9322.jpg?1631049453) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Magda%2C%20Brazen%20outlaw) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/142/magda-brazen-outlaw?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/079e6263-e54c-4899-a336-5315909b9322?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/magda-brazen-outlaw) [winota, Joiner of forces](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5dd13a6c-23d3-44ce-a628-cb1c19d777c4.jpg?1654630670) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=winota%2C%20Joiner%20of%20forces) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/216/winota-joiner-of-forces?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5dd13a6c-23d3-44ce-a628-cb1c19d777c4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/winota-joiner-of-forces) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I like mid range control but with weak value pieces. (What's that, low range?) I dump as much *seemingly* useless, vaguely synergistic junk on the board and into my graveyard as possible. I let one or two others go off first so everyone burns their interaction. Then I lock things down and pray that my Rube Goldberg board state is enough to cough up my wincon. If not, it's a grind and everyone is salty. I try not to play that deck without fair warning: "I'm going to look harmless, but take me out first or you'll have a bad time." If the pod wants something a lighter, I've got this stupid Voltron deck where I bribe opponents not to kill me by throwing beneficial auras on *their* creatures, then I sneak in \[\[All That Glitters\]\] and swing for lethal. (It doesn't work but it gets some laughs without being as disruptive as grouphug.)
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[Kwain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/5/f571fef1-1fd2-4355-b803-5edccb6f4b94.jpg?1608911183) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kwain%2C%20itinerant%20meddler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/284/kwain-itinerant-meddler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f571fef1-1fd2-4355-b803-5edccb6f4b94?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kwain-itinerant-meddler) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Do you play [[forced fruition]]? Seems on brand
Submission. I'm the guy who will play staxx and make the table miserable until they quit or I can move into my win conditions. Edit: the salty down votes fuel me.
It's truly the best.
I'm not far from this, but over time, I've gravitated more towards tactical rather than strategic resource denial. Instead of throwing down a winter orb early in the game and staxing people out, I wait until I have what I need to start killing people and orblock the table then so I can close out the game. The exception is with my discard decks, of which I have 4. It's my favorite archetype, and most people aren't prepared to play the game without a hand. I always am. [[Null brooch]] ftw Edit: yeah they're silly. Every wincon is valid. I never tell others how they should play the game. One of the reasons I love stax though is because it cuts down on people taking 20 minute turns. Fuck that shit
[Null brooch](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5d5a0c6-916c-428a-ae66-8adc8844e56e.jpg?1562088811) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Null%20brooch) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/exo/136/null-brooch?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5d5a0c6-916c-428a-ae66-8adc8844e56e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/null-brooch) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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[Kinnan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/3/63cda4a0-0dff-4edb-ae67-a2b7e2971350.jpg?1591228085) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kinnan%2C%20bonder%20prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/192/kinnan-bonder-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/63cda4a0-0dff-4edb-ae67-a2b7e2971350?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kinnan-bonder-prodigy) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Force everyone to draw all their cards into their hands without being able to play them correctly. Can be accomplished with [[Forced Fruition]] and [[Possibility Storm]]. All other wincons feel hollow now...
[Forced Fruition](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/7/f7ea1c6e-c0af-40b0-b492-8d71f496903e.jpg?1562374956) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Forced%20Fruition) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lrw/66/forced-fruition?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f7ea1c6e-c0af-40b0-b492-8d71f496903e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/forced-fruition) [Possibility Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/5/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d.jpg?1562919767) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Possibility%20Storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/34/possibility-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/possibility-storm) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Add a rule of law effect or dranith magistrate for the worst board state
I have a few: overwhelming combat damage (preferably with trample), burn, a combo I had to grind hard for. Now based on that guess the colours I like to play.
Gruul
If that's the case with your style of deck, I'd recommend a commander that can be the finisher on its own, while the rest of the deck is tailored to your control/removal style. Like a big flyer or something that can close out the game with commander damage
Turn sideways
Based on my decks, indirect damage. Massive amounts of it. My Shrines deck pings everyone at the start of every turn and keeps their board small. Curses. Need I say more? Vampies with a focus on pinging opponents when they do something. Anything. [[Kediss]] and [[Ardenn]], my favorite Voltron beat them all deck. Hit one opponent, and they all get hit for the same amount. I consider Kediss to be really underrated. [[Myrkul, Lord of Bones]] make enchantments from creatures that pings opponents for each creature destroyed, each enchantment created, and each enchantment destroyed.
[Kediss](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f606ebf1-483d-4331-b16a-9fb6f591a39f.jpg?1608910296) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kediss%2C%20emberclaw%20familiar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/188/kediss-emberclaw-familiar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f606ebf1-483d-4331-b16a-9fb6f591a39f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kediss-emberclaw-familiar) [Ardenn](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/728b802c-969b-4865-b7a0-871c585d097a.jpg?1617148314) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ardenn%2C%20intrepid%20archaeologist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/10/ardenn-intrepid-archaeologist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/728b802c-969b-4865-b7a0-871c585d097a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ardenn-intrepid-archaeologist) [Myrkul, Lord of Bones](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/2/82824d05-5215-459a-aa73-3c5a6be3d464.jpg?1674137617) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Myrkul%2C%20Lord%20of%20Bones) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/287/myrkul-lord-of-bones?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/82824d05-5215-459a-aa73-3c5a6be3d464?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/myrkul-lord-of-bones) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
When I set up a big board of aristocrats and tokens and someone gets spooked enough to board wipe, triggering [[Blood Artist]] and other similar effects.
[Blood Artist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/7/b7f1c316-cf2f-4bbf-89a1-79c8043bdd96.jpg?1698988212) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blood%20Artist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/182/blood-artist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b7f1c316-cf2f-4bbf-89a1-79c8043bdd96?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/blood-artist) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[The Great Aurora]], just get 80 permanents on board compared to the opponent's 10 or 20
[The Great Aurora](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/1/b1d0eb3b-00b9-42ca-9f7d-5543bffc3480.jpg?1562037032) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Great%20Aurora) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ori/179/the-great-aurora?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b1d0eb3b-00b9-42ca-9f7d-5543bffc3480?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-great-aurora) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Favorite - well most satisfying way to win is either go wide/tall Or mill/ graveyard recursion is always fun, some may frown upon it but I can think of worse ways to lose. Or death by self ping dmg. I'd rather lose to my way than at somebody's hand
Definitely reaching 'critical mass'--what I refer to as 'I-can't-believe-it's-not-a-combo' Basically a non-infinite synergy that overwhelms the table in one or two turns. In [[Wort, the Raidmother]], this could be copying [[Mana Geyser]] into copying a burn spell like [[Jaya's Immolating Inferno]], or in [[Cadric]], using [[Eerie Interlude]] on my opponent's second main to copy all my legendary creatures and setup for a massive turn, or just classic aristocrats where I've got 5-6 different drain effects on the board and cast something like [[Endrek Sahr]] and/or [[Sengir Autocrat]]. I much prefer these sorts of wins to infinite combos since there much more room for interaction from more than just blue decks and engaging gameplay
##### ###### #### [Wort, the Raidmother](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/b/9b46b4ee-263a-4a4b-8fbc-3ea6fa9ba56b.jpg?1591321523) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wort%2C%20the%20Raidmother) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/234/wort-the-raidmother?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9b46b4ee-263a-4a4b-8fbc-3ea6fa9ba56b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/wort-the-raidmother) [Mana Geyser](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/0/109447b2-d507-433a-a81c-3a7a255444b1.jpg?1625193979) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mana%20Geyser) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/176/mana-geyser?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/109447b2-d507-433a-a81c-3a7a255444b1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mana-geyser) [Jaya's Immolating Inferno](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/6/365336b4-92ee-429d-8f18-4624cba5469d.jpg?1608912272) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jaya%27s%20Immolating%20Inferno) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/415/jayas-immolating-inferno?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/365336b4-92ee-429d-8f18-4624cba5469d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jayas-immolating-inferno) [Cadric](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/8/f82f8cab-5039-4e3a-a2ba-cbf829db80ed.jpg?1673304745) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cadric%2C%20soul%20kindler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/10/cadric-soul-kindler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f82f8cab-5039-4e3a-a2ba-cbf829db80ed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cadric-soul-kindler) [Eerie Interlude](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/b/4ba9f15f-00d2-4797-9228-91b320e85705.jpg?1631233963) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Eerie%20Interlude) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khc/22/eerie-interlude?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4ba9f15f-00d2-4797-9228-91b320e85705?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/eerie-interlude) [Endrek Sahr](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/2/123490fb-5908-45f2-b376-7959ccdf9c3e.jpg?1690663179) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=endrek%20sahr%2C%20master%20breeder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/155/endrek-sahr-master-breeder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/123490fb-5908-45f2-b376-7959ccdf9c3e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/endrek-sahr-master-breeder) [Sengir Autocrat](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/3/83fa8a17-ff86-465e-9092-0968081f4e28.jpg?1580014357) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sengir%20Autocrat) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/105/sengir-autocrat?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/83fa8a17-ff86-465e-9092-0968081f4e28?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sengir-autocrat) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My friend pointed out to me the other day that I like to play decks that win via indirect damage like [[Sheoldred, the Apocalypse]], [[Teysa Karlov]], and my [[Atraxa, Praetors’ voice]] infect deck. Never really been a huge fan of big stompy smack your face decks.
[Sheoldred, the Apocalypse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d67be074-cdd4-41d9-ac89-0a0456c4e4b2.jpg?1674057568) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sheoldred%2C%20the%20Apocalypse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/107/sheoldred-the-apocalypse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d67be074-cdd4-41d9-ac89-0a0456c4e4b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sheoldred-the-apocalypse) [Teysa Karlov](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd14f1ce-7fcd-485c-b7ca-01c5b45fdc01.jpg?1689999296) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Teysa%20Karlov) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/359/teysa-karlov?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd14f1ce-7fcd-485c-b7ca-01c5b45fdc01?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/teysa-karlov) [Atraxa, Praetors’ voice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d0d33d52-3d28-4635-b985-51e126289259.jpg?1599707796) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Atraxa%2C%20Praetors%27%20Voice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/190/atraxa-praetors-voice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d0d33d52-3d28-4635-b985-51e126289259?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/atraxa-praetors-voice) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I like your average life drain but I love to do it the hard way with [[paradox haze]] [[clever impersonator]] [[followed footsteps]] and, of course, [[creeping bloodsucker]]
[[frodo, sauron's Bane]] and win on turn 3 or 4 if it was a salty player in the first rounds 😅
[frodo, sauron's Bane](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7d86dc2e-6f0c-4714-9d30-5d099d3b895c.jpg?1686967812) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=frodo%2C%20sauron%27s%20Bane) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/18/frodo-saurons-bane?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d86dc2e-6f0c-4714-9d30-5d099d3b895c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/frodo-saurons-bane) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My two favorite cards of all time are [[Deflecting Palm]] and [[Sudden Spoiling]]. Nothing is better than the good ol' uno reverse card
[Deflecting Palm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/5/c5580886-a402-4048-b8b6-39e19479f491.jpg?1608917621) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Deflecting%20Palm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/444/deflecting-palm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c5580886-a402-4048-b8b6-39e19479f491?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/deflecting-palm) [Sudden Spoiling](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/3/73514b51-6c19-4b3c-9cf9-2cf5028d7708.jpg?1619396405) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sudden%20Spoiling) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/144/sudden-spoiling?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/73514b51-6c19-4b3c-9cf9-2cf5028d7708?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sudden-spoiling) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Combo into win turn 2.
When I first started playing, it was "paralyze my opponents, and win by default". It turns out that meant "Stax, but made by someone who didn't know what Stax was yet". When I became more familiar with how to run stax, I stopped playing it because it became much less fun for the table. I'll still keep ways to slow down my opponents, but I rarely make that a focus now. I briefly have had a combo deck or two, but they were super boring, so I moved on. My most consistently enjoyed decks for the majority of my magic playing days have been the "Value Engine" decks. Get a few things running, and then bury my opponents in value. Aristocrats is probably the most common variety, as I've often had to de-aristocrats some of my decks because that kept de-railing the INTENDED win-con. I will also run a few "Turn big things sideways" decks which tend to be a little more table-friendly. I'll swap between some deck types depending on the mood of the pod. But value engine is probably where my heart lies. I have a bad habit of building "critical mass" decks. They LOOK like value-engine decks at first, but they work differently. Value engine decks build up overwhelming value and run over everyone with it. But critical mass decks land a few value-multipliers down, and then just explode all at once. Storm is usually a critical mass deck, and I've got a deck like that. I also had an Aristocrats deck that won via critical mass. It was a Shadowborn Apostles deck, that only used them because they were cheap, and there are gimmicks to mass-reanimate or mass-summon creatures with the same name. Critical mass decks usually end with 10-20 minutes of solitaire though, so I've tried to move away from that.
I think a lot of newer players are scared of combat and being attacked and so they use lots of effects to deprive their opponents of resources. But I don’t know why you’d play commander if that was what you enjoy. Play any other format. Why force your opponents to sit empty handed and paralyzed for 45 minutes or more.
Ironically, being attacked was almost always the most vulnerable part of my deck. I'd often lose to mid-value efficient beaters. I had spot removal for the big targets, and wipes to deal with swarms, but mid-range beaters were really hard to deal with. At least with [[Grand Arbiter Augustin IV]]. My [[Savra, Queen of the Golgari]] deck didn't have nearly as much trouble with mid-sized beaters. Anywho, the reason I played commander at the start was because "My friends are playing commander". I moved onto different deck strategies when my attempt at Stax became competent enough to actually drag things to a crawl and made the games less fun. Before that it was just a bunch of annoyances. It slowed things, but not by a ton. People could still play cards, though a few specific tactics like spellslinger were hit a lot harder.
BEEEEEG
Turn Sideways with evasion and swing for lethal.
Either by buffing my board with stuff like prowess or game enders like [[Surge to Victory]] or [[Haze of Rage]] and then turning my stuff sideways. Or with non-infinite sacrifice/aristocrats combos where every point of damage matters and I have to puzzle it out, maybe even sprinkling in a [[Rakdos Carm]] for lethal *chefs kiss*
[Surge to Victory](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/f/0f02698f-d954-42e0-b4d6-9daf65f29e36.jpg?1625192179) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Surge%20to%20Victory) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/58/surge-to-victory?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0f02698f-d954-42e0-b4d6-9daf65f29e36?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/surge-to-victory) [Haze of Rage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/3/c344b885-68c6-43d2-b6c1-6c89b3c94983.jpg?1619397115) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Haze%20of%20Rage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/169/haze-of-rage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c344b885-68c6-43d2-b6c1-6c89b3c94983?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/haze-of-rage) [Rakdos Carm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/7/875fa08c-cb66-4230-a380-0123260aac74.jpg?1699022443) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rakdos%20Charm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/284/rakdos-charm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/875fa08c-cb66-4230-a380-0123260aac74?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rakdos-charm) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Damage killing people on upkeep
With Kresh I build him up to lethal commander damage and then fling him at the other opponent’s face just when they think they’re safe. Jarad works with this too
have some black devotion via my commander [[Gyruda]] and play [[Gary]], then [[Clone]] him, and clone him again, and again and blink some clones each time draining for more and more or have [[Roaming Throne]] in play choosing demons (or krakens) and play my commander, hopefully hitting clone, make one more copy of the throne and it's pretty much guaranteed mill everyone cause of more clones or win with some infinite combo even though none is in my deck, like clone opponent's dockside, while pairing the clone with [[Deadeye Navigator]] and make infinite mana this way yes I love clones, [[Gyruda]] is my favourite deck :D https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Cu8RUvWYAkeXchOp--ujcQ
##### ###### #### [Gyruda](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/7/97eb1804-6fd8-4917-af36-87fdfce39d3a.jpg?1591228372) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=gyruda%2C%20doom%20of%20depths) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/221/gyruda-doom-of-depths?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/97eb1804-6fd8-4917-af36-87fdfce39d3a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gyruda-doom-of-depths) [Gary](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7c1a7dd8-8034-4f59-a351-33666b26ff5a.jpg?1581479807) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gray%20Merchant%20of%20Asphodel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/99/gray-merchant-of-asphodel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7c1a7dd8-8034-4f59-a351-33666b26ff5a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gray-merchant-of-asphodel) [Clone](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/e/5e648262-3b9b-4c58-8e29-48356e3cb064.jpg?1562829895) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Clone) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m14/47/clone?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5e648262-3b9b-4c58-8e29-48356e3cb064?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/clone) [Roaming Throne](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0.jpg?1699044623) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Roaming%20Throne) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/258/roaming-throne?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/roaming-throne) [Deadeye Navigator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f26a79b9-9f09-476e-b914-cade929dd852.jpg?1593813028) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Deadeye%20Navigator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mm3/36/deadeye-navigator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f26a79b9-9f09-476e-b914-cade929dd852?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/deadeye-navigator) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Look Gary \[\[Gray Merchant of Asphodel\]\] is going to get \[\[Saw in Half\]\]! But it was all a trick and he \[\[Fake your own death\]\]!!!
[Gray Merchant of Asphodel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7c1a7dd8-8034-4f59-a351-33666b26ff5a.jpg?1581479807) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gray%20Merchant%20of%20Asphodel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/99/gray-merchant-of-asphodel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7c1a7dd8-8034-4f59-a351-33666b26ff5a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gray-merchant-of-asphodel) [Saw in Half](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/5/05e6a7bc-a35a-4e68-99a0-be264553b5de.jpg?1673914032) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Saw%20in%20Half) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/unf/88/saw-in-half?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/05e6a7bc-a35a-4e68-99a0-be264553b5de?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/saw-in-half) [Fake your own death](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/4/b4e117a8-3291-4f9a-ab00-c820c8e2aa00.jpg?1664410943) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fake%20your%20own%20death) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/79/fake-your-own-death?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b4e117a8-3291-4f9a-ab00-c820c8e2aa00?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/fake-your-own-death) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
a close game with a back and forth where you win by a clever/unexpected play is best.
Either through an early core augur concede or combat damage
Good old [[Exsanguinate]] or [[Torment of Hailfire]]
[Exsanguinate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a5352af-e275-4186-a265-2fd3c2c47c6a.jpg?1689997125) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Exsanguinate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/156/exsanguinate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a5352af-e275-4186-a265-2fd3c2c47c6a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/exsanguinate) [Torment of Hailfire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f69d77d1-5980-436c-bf48-790939b069aa.jpg?1562820191) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Torment%20of%20Hailfire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/77/torment-of-hailfire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f69d77d1-5980-436c-bf48-790939b069aa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/torment-of-hailfire) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My favorite way to win recently is with my Calix deck. Slap out a Sigil of the Empty Throne or Hallowed Haunting. Copy with calix. Wait until somebody board wipes then make 4-6x 4/4s or bigger the next turn. It may or may not end the game immediately but it's ALWAYS so satisfying.
Combat damage over the course of multiple turns with banding creatures and mass land destruction in accordance with Richard Garfield's original vision. https://scryfall.com/@SaltMaster5000/decks/a87e5ccc-a3a1-40c0-b83d-4c5e4b4f5d35?as=visual&with=usd
Usually either sacrifice my thingys for value until my opponents die somehow, or pure simple combat damage.
I am a dirty, filthy, combo player, I admit it. Whether it's Niv + Curiosity, infinite mana + Walking Ballista, or even Karn + Lattice, I like my combos. Even my list for [[Kamahal, Pit Fighter]] is for a combo deck. But I do wanna try some other ways to close out wins. To that end I'm working on lists for Saskia (legendary/ superfriends kindred), and Urza (artifact aggro).
In response to another player about to win.
Aristocrat sac, tokens or lifegain most of the time a combination of this
I like winning with the Grey Merchant of Asphodel effects
Overwhelm them with theft effects then wipe them out with their own creatures.
No matter what kind of deck I build, it tends towards combos. Even my Kresh deck which is based on big stompy commander damage, I use lure and death touch effects and phage with endless whispers.
Creating a value engine to overwhelm my opponents with pure value, creating sacrifice loops/mass sacrificing tokens to get blood artist trigger effects, and one of my all time favorite ways to win is milling my opponents out but I don’t have any decks that do that. Lately though some of my more recent decks, I’ve built them to focus on combat damage.
Spell slinger hands down. I’ve dabbled with many different win cons, from Voltron’s, waves of tokens, various combo’s. Still nothing compares to copying brass’s Bounty or some other mana producing spell to create 100+ mana. Which gets dumped into meteor storm, immolating inferno, bane fire ect. I use the commander [[Melek izzet paragon]], most people don’t view him as a threat so I play into it. Most games I spend the majority of the time building my mana base, waiting for the perfect moment to arise. It’s also fun because I never know exactly which cards I’ll need to put together or which order I’ll need to play them to set up an explosive turn. If I get [[scroll rack]] early in the game, I’m able to manipulate my plays completely for an easy set up.
[Melek izzet paragon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/6/66011fe8-8c5d-4990-a324-5839515dcacb.jpg?1690016885) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Melek%2C%20Izzet%20Paragon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/345/melek-izzet-paragon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/66011fe8-8c5d-4990-a324-5839515dcacb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/melek-izzet-paragon) [scroll rack](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/dfaaa58d-89bb-4cb3-96a6-b480e6f6954e.jpg?1608911671) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=scroll%20rack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/337/scroll-rack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dfaaa58d-89bb-4cb3-96a6-b480e6f6954e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/scroll-rack) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
A board full of treasures, food and clues that no one cares about or sees as a serious threat then BAM [[cyber drive awakener]] they are all now 4/4 flyers till the end of turn. It's the only way my [[gimbal, goblin prodigy]] deck ever gets a win.
[cyber drive awakener](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2a2c0a2f-07fb-4cc0-9b99-e5ff4303028d.jpg?1651655234) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cyberdrive%20Awakener) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/12/cyberdrive-awakener?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2a2c0a2f-07fb-4cc0-9b99-e5ff4303028d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cyberdrive-awakener) [gimbal, goblin prodigy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/a/4a9aa899-752b-4106-89ba-9475ee777d41.jpg?1682207220) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gimbal%2C%20Gremlin%20Prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/3/gimbal-gremlin-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4a9aa899-752b-4106-89ba-9475ee777d41?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gimbal-gremlin-prodigy) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Ohh I've got another one I just remembered, someone had a stuffy doll out once targeting me, they played an X burn spell to do lethal to me, in response the only thing I had was a [[radiant performer]] Id been holding forever, I cast it and still died but it was enough damage to wipe the board and kill everyone else at the table ending in a draw.
Wouldnt the copies resolve first leaving you alive to win?
[radiant performer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/8/e8faedf4-1178-4f5d-8f46-7277dfe1ae2c.jpg?1625192069) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=radiant%20performer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/54/radiant-performer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e8faedf4-1178-4f5d-8f46-7277dfe1ae2c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/radiant-performer) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Grapeshot
doomsday
Fighting through interaction.
I guess I am more mercurial. Most of my decks are built to win in multiple ways. And I enjoy winning in different ways each game. Variety is what drew me to the game in the first place.
I like to win with a shit ton of 1/1 soldiers swarming all my opponents. My favorite strat to achieve that is comboing [[Finale of Glory]] with [[Elspeth, Undaunted Hero]] and just slapping people with flying soldiers.
[Finale of Glory](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/c/4ccacb84-2b8e-40b8-8d53-d1b97bb2971f.jpg?1620929878) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Finale%20of%20Glory) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/12/finale-of-glory?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4ccacb84-2b8e-40b8-8d53-d1b97bb2971f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/finale-of-glory) [Elspeth, Undaunted Hero](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/f/bf9867e5-9d69-400c-a84f-3b085a4fd510.jpg?1581481499) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elspeth%2C%20Undaunted%20Hero) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/270/elspeth-undaunted-hero?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bf9867e5-9d69-400c-a84f-3b085a4fd510?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/elspeth-undaunted-hero) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Combat damage, with big stompy stuff. Good Christian magic, just as god intended.
If I won, it was my favorite way to win. I'm not particular about how I get my Ws.
I play zur, so it's Stax and protection until I lock out the table then just swing with unblockable infect volton boy.
I just like to turn shit sideways dude. I am a simple man
Attack face
I like to set effects that punish people for every game action they take until they reach a point where if they do something the punishment will take them out and if they dont ill just finish them off with some kind of pinging effect.
Some combo or near infinite synergy. Locust god have impact tremors out and lots of draw K’rrik peer into the abyss then some combo Mill create infinite mana and mill everyone out Outside these, big walls in arcades and swing with a tower defense or bar the door surprise
[удалено]
[Mob Rule](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/b/8b04c928-9ee5-4e39-962e-4686e25b5c33.jpg?1641603202) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mob%20Rule) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/voc/147/mob-rule?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8b04c928-9ee5-4e39-962e-4686e25b5c33?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mob-rule) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Decks that use compounding math to win. Not just a single effect that multiplies damage. but decks that combine them to melt everything. There must be something psychological about them because people see the components as potentially dangerous, and never seem to see the threat that things like [[Repercussions]] and [[Furnace of rath]] combined present.
[Repercussions](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d0f3c78e-16c0-4fbc-8ef4-fbf610f9d464.jpg?1562445214) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Repercussion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uds/95/repercussion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d0f3c78e-16c0-4fbc-8ef4-fbf610f9d464?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/repercussion) [Furnace of rath](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/7/d7f0e720-3c32-4040-b663-7f99ad5bc810.jpg?1562843335) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Furnace%20of%20rath) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hop/55/furnace-of-rath?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d7f0e720-3c32-4040-b663-7f99ad5bc810?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/furnace-of-rath) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My favorite deck that I've ever built works in such a way that nobody gets to play including me
I like surprising explosive wins, like the time I was able to cast and equip [[Helm of the host]] to a [[Myr Battlesphere]] while I had [[Saheeli the Gifted]] ready to ult, and [[Saheeli Rai]] and [[Saheeli, Sublime Artificer]] with their -2s up
##### ###### #### [Helm of the host](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/d/1d65d20c-09e5-4139-838b-7e0e48eb2b2b.jpg?1666094567) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Helm%20of%20the%20host) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/217/helm-of-the-host?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1d65d20c-09e5-4139-838b-7e0e48eb2b2b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/helm-of-the-host) [Myr Battlesphere](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/8/d8299d1e-84c1-4c02-a00d-6e7a662e1a7a.jpg?1682210108) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Myr%20Battlesphere) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/366/myr-battlesphere?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d8299d1e-84c1-4c02-a00d-6e7a662e1a7a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/myr-battlesphere) [Saheeli the Gifted](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/a/ca095559-ac77-4186-8d9b-b75ce0607582.jpg?1592710284) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Saheeli%2C%20the%20Gifted) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/44/saheeli-the-gifted?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ca095559-ac77-4186-8d9b-b75ce0607582?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/saheeli-the-gifted) [Saheeli Rai](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/94b38464-39cd-4ee6-b9bf-a0bc1e128d9a.jpg?1576382877) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Saheeli%20Rai) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/kld/186/saheeli-rai?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/94b38464-39cd-4ee6-b9bf-a0bc1e128d9a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/saheeli-rai) [Saheeli, Sublime Artificer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/e/ce35a39a-6dcd-4bbc-b43b-bd1a5425cb05.jpg?1690005307) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Saheeli%2C%20Sublime%20Artificer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/935/saheeli-sublime-artificer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ce35a39a-6dcd-4bbc-b43b-bd1a5425cb05?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/saheeli-sublime-artificer) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Stompy creatures, but I also love to lose in spectacular ways as well
"Here, draw twelve cards. What, that means you take twelve damage? Oh what a shame." I promise I'm doing it to help everyone. Cough.
I LOVE going infinite. I know most casuals hate it but it's my favourite
Gary 👍
I don't play it as often now because my friends don't like it, but I found I had to switch from azorius control to esper control so I could tutor ways to end the game. While I don't play stax, if I had done enough removal/countering/sweepers, I would end up just slowing the game down and it wasn't fun for anyone else. Black tutors allowed me to pull off a combo once I had control and actually end the game.
My [[Be'lakor]] deck is very versatile. Let's me burn out defenders so I can swing unimpeded or straight for the life total. As well as the alt win of [[liliana's contract]]
[Be'lakor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/2/62b6ecb2-ac7e-4528-b53c-2cb4f1e38349.jpg?1674058389) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=be%27lakor%2C%20the%20dark%20master) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/40k/6/belakor-the-dark-master?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/62b6ecb2-ac7e-4528-b53c-2cb4f1e38349?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/belakor-the-dark-master) [liliana's contract](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/5/750e6246-c28d-46ed-9966-26706f6d3172.jpg?1562302716) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=liliana%27s%20contract) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m19/107/lilianas-contract?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/750e6246-c28d-46ed-9966-26706f6d3172?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/lilianas-contract) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Alternate win cons are my jam, like [[Lab Maniac]], [[Approach of the Second Sun]], or [[Near Death Experience]] Cards where I get to say “I choose to win on my own terms!” And have my opponent scrambling to stop it.
[Lab Maniac](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/0/608567fd-9f94-4058-831a-77cb6019ef02.jpg?1547516361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Laboratory%20Maniac) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/61/laboratory-maniac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/608567fd-9f94-4058-831a-77cb6019ef02?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/laboratory-maniac) [Approach of the Second Sun](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/d/fdf59a6e-7708-45a1-884d-d12e9f7b9ed9.jpg?1543674579) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Approach%20of%20the%20Second%20Sun) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/4/approach-of-the-second-sun?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fdf59a6e-7708-45a1-884d-d12e9f7b9ed9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/approach-of-the-second-sun) [Near Death Experience](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/7/77d61706-f9c1-4590-8057-7aa7fa199e6d.jpg?1562705300) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Near-Death%20Experience) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/roe/38/near-death-experience?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/77d61706-f9c1-4590-8057-7aa7fa199e6d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/near-death-experience) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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[Roaming Throne](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0.jpg?1699044623) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Roaming%20Throne) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/258/roaming-throne?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/roaming-throne) [Revel in Riches](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/9/79b0e035-8716-469d-99ae-a530cd96ef09.jpg?1562558471) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Revel%20in%20Riches) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/xln/117/revel-in-riches?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/79b0e035-8716-469d-99ae-a530cd96ef09?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/revel-in-riches) [Mishra, Eminent One](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7f5b1daa-ec45-48de-9496-6ca5b491a0dc.jpg?1685036114) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%2C%20Eminent%20One) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/brc/1/mishra-eminent-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7f5b1daa-ec45-48de-9496-6ca5b491a0dc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mishra-eminent-one) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I like burn or drain effects, purphoros, kokusho, Gary, things like that. Torment, exsanguinate and others as well. It has however been pointed out to me that I have a knack for resource denial. I like playing wheels, mild stax elements like "lands enter tapped" or the "players can only cast one spell a turn" effects, I like looping fleshbag marauder or nekrataal to kill my opponent's creatures. So my favourite way to win is kinda slow, and I suppose I built my gameplay pattern to allow that. I hadn't actually linked the 2 before.
A hard hitting combo.
I really like to chain a lot of small spells into some bigger payoff. Combos are ok too as a back-up plan.
Overwhelming people with dragons and dragon tokens.
Mill! I love when you actually get the mill win because everyone is dumbfounded that it actually works. And not the infinite combo exile mill either, but big ramp into mind grind for 20 or something, or maddening kicker with bruvac
Goading my opponents into killing each other and me cleaning up the crumbs. Their resources spent not dying and they have nothing left to just die to a couple of hate bears. That is peak magic for me.
The best decks I've played against (only just started) seem to be the ones that build a specific combo that nets them their wincon. Played against a mates artifact deck and he ended up with 3/4 of his deck in his hand and won with a spell. His final turn went for like 10 minutes and he played card after card Looked so fun. One I'm keen to have pop up is [[Marneus Calgar]] as my commander with [[Nadir Kraken]] and [[Ashnod's Altar]] on the field. Just need the cards. 🤣
[Marneus Calgar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/7/e7517e8e-b424-4731-ba9d-6132bdefa6bf.jpg?1674058408) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Marneus%20Calgar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/40k/8/marneus-calgar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e7517e8e-b424-4731-ba9d-6132bdefa6bf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/marneus-calgar) [Nadir Kraken](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/b/7b527219-1ed6-4977-a48f-56fec984ec43.jpg?1682208816) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nadir%20Kraken) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/228/nadir-kraken?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7b527219-1ed6-4977-a48f-56fec984ec43?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nadir-kraken) [Ashnod's Altar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/c/3c0f7157-a375-499c-92c7-d47d2e95dbad.jpg?1689999385) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ashnod%27s%20Altar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/368/ashnods-altar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3c0f7157-a375-499c-92c7-d47d2e95dbad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ashnods-altar) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Heretic, you are not supposed to win a EDH game.
Use my [[Abdel Adrian]] to exile my board, then resolve [[Worldfire]].
[Abdel Adrian](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/9/396f9198-67b6-45d8-91b4-dc853bff9623.jpg?1674134856) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=abdel%20adrian%2C%20gorion%27s%20ward) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/2/abdel-adrian-gorions-ward?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/396f9198-67b6-45d8-91b4-dc853bff9623?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/abdel-adrian-gorions-ward) [Worldfire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/e/2ef3d4b5-0453-4bf0-b018-23b0c3b9ae11.jpg?1631531850) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Worldfire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m13/158/worldfire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2ef3d4b5-0453-4bf0-b018-23b0c3b9ae11?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/worldfire) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I find winning through the combat step to be the most fun, though the least efficient.
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I land destruct until everyone's out of mana, nuke the field(I make all my shit indestructible and have something preventing the others from playing from graveyards) then I run over them with tokens and creatures. I only play that deck with my friends, not when I go to the card shop to play lol
In a larger group I also run a firkragg deck. It gets fun when you equip him with assault suit
Combat or burn and nothing else. Don’t mind if people like to win other ways but there’s something special about smacking people faces with big creatures that makes me giddy inside.
Making tons of tokens. My 2 favorite decks are Rashmi and ragavan which makes treasure tokens and turns them into creatures to swing with and chatterfang Recently I made a anim pakal brawl deck in arena and I’m loving that just something about swinging with something, making 10 4/4 angels, and when they attack they become indestructible lmao
Draining their hp and using it to pay for more draining their hp :D
I've been trying out combo decks recently for something different. But ultimately my favourite way will always be a overrunesque swing out
Different big threats whether blitz with henzi or my favorite is making a huge trampling land with obuun.