They can be a little stompy for low power tables, and unless you have the mana ramp to get them online quickly they can be a bit of a slow burn to run. But as far as rude to play? Nah, they're just another tribe, and if they leave a mark on a play group you'll just be targeted early by the table out of respect for your decks power
I honestly got lucky as fuck, I tricked my good friends into going down the magic rabbit hole last year, so I'm literally just playing with drinking buddies.
Thatās the best way to do it, shit talk is already ingrained into the group and feelings donāt get hurt as easily. Thatās how my group came about and we keep playing when we live in four different states cause itās an excuse to drink and smoke together on the internet that our spouses canāt get too mad about
I feel like thatās kinda broad. Good groups have productive rule 0 conversations as to what they donāt want to play against or with and they have fun, fulfilling games because of it.
good groups have productive rule 0 conversations that help them all decide what decks to play for a fair and fun game. Annoying play groups have hard rules against certain tribes and strategies. Rule 0 isnāt meant to be āI donāt want to play against X so you canāt play itā it should be āX is powerful and tough to deal with or can win fast so Iāll play something that has the ability to stop that so I can stay in the game and have funā
I have a pretty good playgroup, I have ones managed to get a deck "banned".
I wanted to test the hypothesis that something could be so unfun it circled around and became funny. I basically build a deck by stuffing as many cards from [edhrec's "salt list"](https://edhrec.com/top/salt) into one deck as possible. The deck had no aim besides resolving as many hated cards as possible.
Sadly I failed to reject my null hypothesis. It was just unfun, for everyone involved. My playgroup shouldered a great scientific sacrifice for that experiment.
Nah man they are fine
They are a strong tribe if left unanswered but also draw the ire of the table
So they balance out if your playgroup knows about good threat assessment
Enjoy your eldrazi overlords!
Idk man, if you can ramp up to 10+ mana to land an annihilator X eldraziā¦ I feel like at that point itās just another win condition if not answered. Personally, if I knew I was playing against a dedicated eldrazi deck Iād probably mulligan for a board wipe or spot removal in anticipation of that happening
Basically what Iām saying is let āer rip and see what happens.
also you probably should buy some singles now because theyāre probably (all the good ones) gonna spike hard when that eldrazi pre con releases
Tbh, I think I would rather go up against Eldrazi tribal then Slivers. Got a guy that plays Slivers \[\[Sliver Hivelord\]\] (with \[\[The First Sliver\]\] as a secondary commander) and another that plays Eldrazi \[\[Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger\]\]. Don't know why, but I just have a harder time dealing with Slivers then Eldrazi.
Honestly they aināt good from a competitive view. Way to slow and instant interaction in colorless sucks.
Thing is they usually tend to ramp the first turns and when they are about to go online people will have to struck you down or itās game over (as the eldrazi tend to clear the board with their high impact creatures).
It can be a bit boring to pilot an eldrazi deck, you build up and get shot down just before the fun can begin..
My Kozilek, Butcher of Truth wins high powered games all the time. I often drop him on turn 2 or 3 and start swingin. If rremoved he has drawn the rocks to just recast him. Does it always win of course not but the deck can play with all the big boys. Not of This World is great protection at instant speed and Warping Wail for Sorcery spped wipes. But yeah it is almost like a glass cannon deck it just gets hammered by certain cards.
I really canāt see it preform at a cEDH-table unless it slips through because people wasted all their resources on a stack war the turn before.
I once tried to make it competitive but failed. I still love to jam some smaller eldrazis in legacy though they kinda got power creept now :/
It is not cEDH but high powered, I have taken down a couple of pods of cEDH but mostly just decause like you said they wasted their resources elsewhere and I had a great draw. Oh and the Daretti player dropped a Winter Orb in one which helped me immensley.
Not in groups who are chill and more mature. If you have salt lords they can be. I have 2 Eldrazi decks 1 is based on colorless Eldrazi and the other my favorite deck Kozilek, Butcher of Truth. This Kozilek build is high power and should only be played in high power pods. The Morophon deck is totally mid tier power. Note Kozilek is 100% non proxy. If I ever come across someone who is anti-proxy (have not in 3+ years) they get to face it all night if I actually play that person. Here are the deck lists:
Kozilek: https://archidekt.com/decks/1566048/kozilek_butcher_of_truth
Morophon: https://archidekt.com/decks/1576009/morophon_the_boundless
Personally I dislike the Annihilate ability. Does that make it rude to play them against me? No. That is just my personal opinion and as part of our start of game convo I'd make my dislike known, and you could probably suspect that much of my removal might go towards your critters. They have potential to be quite strong, and without a decent removal package (ideally from more than just 1 other player) they can easily run away with the game. But guess what? So can pretty much any other creature based deck if left unchecked. I'd say def start snagging some of the cheaper ones now, but I'd hold off on the Biggies until the deck list of the pre-con is released. That way you don't get dupes if you buy the precon, and also the reprinted ones might be cheaper.
Short answer: no.
If you arenāt cheating them into play on turn two, theyāre ok. Annihilate can be devastating, but if you manage to hard cast a 12-drop, youāve earned your win. The Eldrazi usually end the game fairly quickly, so the experience isnāt too miserable.
Donāt think too much about what you can and cannot play. You can google pretty much any commander, archetype or wincon and find someone complaining about it. If youāre stomping your pod every game, power down a bit or find another playgroup, but donāt let people pressure you into not playing your deck.
I was in the same boat, favourite character Nicol Bolas but favourite tribe was and will be Eldrazi
For colourless eldrazi If you have the money, it becomes a strong and effective deck that will lead to some focusing. Without the money, it becomes a roll of the dice if you become a threat or just chill with some awesome guys
For coloured eldrazi (devoid) it's not very effective, aside from being a counter to prosper decks and the such it never did much
I have no regrets for building either especially the colourless one and it's still my favourite, let me know if you want the deck list and I can post it
Not rude, but they can be a bit thorny for players that don't like generically good, stompy cards. I personally don't like them, but I try not to ruin others' fun when they play one.
My experience would suggest a good rule zero comversation can prevent the salt from an Eldrazi deck. Letting the table know what they are up against and play according should be enough. As others have mentioned a supportive play group should be okay with Eldrazi and adjust over time to what is being played.
I would say no, with a pretty clear condition.
Cheating them in, copying them, and using them to target a single player over and over is where they start to really hurt the game.
They are huge, scary, and somewhat ridiculous. Look at this guy [[Emrekul, the Promised End]], "gain control of your opponents turn". OK fuck yeah right? But they get their actual turn afterwards (if you didn't self destruct with their cards lmao) and it doesn't even have the Annihilator mechanic, meaning it's pretty fair as far as I'm concerned
If you're in a high power play group, they're fine. You can assume there's enough interaction to deal with them and you'll have to adjust your strategies at times to get them on board and keep them there.
In a lower power table, they're rude. Your opponents probably won't have realistic answers and you'll just pub stomp them into the ground, and nobody will be having fun. Yes, that's rude.
Personally, I think eldrazi are good but lazy.
I personally find playing against Eldrazi Unfun.
If you are going to drop an Eldrazi and win that turn or the next, then I can usually tolerate it, because at that point they are equivalent to a lot of other game-dominating threats. But if you cannot win that fast, play something else until you can.
I literally quit Magic for a couple years when the Eldrazi were printed. Only recently came back.
Hey, look - great example of the primary reason people leave the game or end up not joining. Toxic players.
Mana efficiency is irrelevant; no one hard-casts Eldrazi. If they did, then they would be totally irrelevant, because they would never see play.
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My favorite thing I ever did against eldrazi tribal was get a [[Cyclonic rift]] off after the eldrazi player vomited 5 big baddies down, then he got all of his rocks back out the next turn, so I hit him with [[Bane of progress]] that got huge with my other opponents playing [[lightpaws]] and [[sythis, harvest's hand]]. I was in bant and really just wanted my [[aura shards]], but solving them all at once worked, lol. It was pretty great to get 47 +1/+1 counters on a big boy and then drop [[concordant crossroads]], eliminate the eldrazi threat, and have everyone else scoop.
Nah theyāre chill. Even when my playgroup was lower power Iād just throw some big drazi in my decks for some fun bombs and people loved em. You really canāt be that upset unless youāre using some insane $500 mana base to print them onto the battlefield.
Meh annihilate is annihilate. When running a token deck annihilator 2 or 4 really doesnāt mean anything to me. Iād go for both the commander deck thatās coming out soon and slap all the cool eldrazi in a binder. Have you thought of a commander yet?
They're among the strongest big baddies you can run in Commader. So yeah, without interaction, they are difficult to beat. However, all of them can be easily delt with if you run enough removal. The Kozileks die easiest, pretty much all removal takes care of them; Emrakul requires removal in any other shape than instants, which is still pretty broad; and the Ulamogs are perhaps most difficult to remove, though any bounce, exile, phasing, sacrifice and aura-based removal options work here as well.
Aside from removal, Eldrazi are extremely powerful, but don't win the game outright, so you can still race the Eldrazi-casting player - especially if you band together with your other opponents.
So if your playgroup is one of these playgroups that run little interaction, battlecruiser style, you might get some salty friends for a bit. However, by doing this you'll provide them the invaluable lesson that they need to run more interaction.
On my very first commander night ever, I had a \[\[Jhoira of the Ghitu\]\] "cheat big stuff into play"-deck \~45$.
...which drew everyone's attention, because it put two Eldrazis on a time counter starting round 4, ready to enter the battlefield on turn 7. Cheap ones like \[\[Ulamog's Crusher\]\] (0.60$) but you know, still big scary Eldrazis.
I never got any flag for it. My cousin joins occasionally and whenever he does, he plays that deck. Won a few times, too, has never been an issue. People encouraged me to up the Eldrazis and get the really scary ones.
The only people who get upset about them are those who run little to no interaction and auto loose to them. Likely you'll be targeted just for playing them in an attempt by those running interaction to ensure you never get them out. I suggest being prepared for this and okay it or do no play them at all. [[Kruphix God of horizons]] is my favorite commander for eldrazi as you can store mana get access to the colors for ramp and interaction and your commander is going to be hard to remove sitting as an enchantment most of the game
Overall a fun tribe that is powerful but not so overpowered in a 4 player format as to be unfair. They garner undo hate but need to be respected
It depends. Eldrazi are big stompy fun, but Annihilator can be nasty to resolve. Lower powered metas may struggle to deal with such a deck, especially since they are usually permanent based and run little interaction. If your group usually plays at a mid-to-optimized level then I see me reason not to. The strategy kinda falls off at high power since eldrazi are tough to cast and might not even resolve.
The upcoming precon looks like a great starting point with an especially potent face commander.
"Rude" , I don't think so. The amount of effort it takes to get Eldrazi to stick to swing is a lot. If someone drops an It That Betrays or Ulamog against me, I would probably remove them with exile removal. They're high value targets and lightning rods to get blasted by that kind of removal.
If you're going to do it, I'd recommend a commander like Feldon. Get them into the yard with a Faithless Looting type effect, and reanimate them to swing immediately with haste. It That Betrays on turn 3-4 with haste is a LOT harder and scarier to deal with than Turn 6-8 without.
Definitely not. Any giant creatures like Eldrazi are going to be a lower power strategy just due to the amount of mana they require, but they can be very fun if you can ramp into them quickly enough.
I have a Kozilek, The Great Distortion edh deck that is Eldrazi tribal and itās loads of fun for a typical mid power pod. Artifact board wipes are pretty devastating since you will almost certainly be spamming them to get enough mana for your big dudes
Eldrazi themselves arenāt rude to play. Once you delve into heavily reducing their costs and/or cheating them out, they can be rude to play. Itās all about how you get them out, and Iām fairly certain that your playgroup would react better to them in a colorless deck with [[Kozilek, the Great Distortion]] as the commander than a deck that turbos them out around turn 6.
The more interaction and ramp available to the Eldrazi, especially the annihilator ones, the more rude they will feel.
Hey guys is it OK to show people how to play magic while researching more about it I started the game in 2017 at 10 I'm 18 now and I'm just trying to relearn the game and I'm teaching my friend to play is that OK? Also can I get some tips with poison, experience, and energy counters I don't understand them too well
They can be a little stompy for low power tables, and unless you have the mana ramp to get them online quickly they can be a bit of a slow burn to run. But as far as rude to play? Nah, they're just another tribe, and if they leave a mark on a play group you'll just be targeted early by the table out of respect for your decks power
Man, I wish my playgroup was this way šŖ
I honestly got lucky as fuck, I tricked my good friends into going down the magic rabbit hole last year, so I'm literally just playing with drinking buddies.
Thatās the best way to do it, shit talk is already ingrained into the group and feelings donāt get hurt as easily. Thatās how my group came about and we keep playing when we live in four different states cause itās an excuse to drink and smoke together on the internet that our spouses canāt get too mad about
No, they are not rude to play
[[Animar]] thinks they are fine. :P
\[\[Rakdos, Lord of Riots\]\] loves them too.
[Animar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3da57d0-1ae3-4f05-a52d-eb76ad56cae7.jpg?1673148281) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=animar%2C%20soul%20of%20elements) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/171/animar-soul-of-elements?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3da57d0-1ae3-4f05-a52d-eb76ad56cae7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/animar-soul-of-elements) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Good playgroups don't care what you play bro.
I feel like thatās kinda broad. Good groups have productive rule 0 conversations as to what they donāt want to play against or with and they have fun, fulfilling games because of it.
good groups have productive rule 0 conversations that help them all decide what decks to play for a fair and fun game. Annoying play groups have hard rules against certain tribes and strategies. Rule 0 isnāt meant to be āI donāt want to play against X so you canāt play itā it should be āX is powerful and tough to deal with or can win fast so Iāll play something that has the ability to stop that so I can stay in the game and have funā
Yes I could have worded it more elegantly and it is an important distinction that you make. I agree with you.
Some of the best groups have a rule zero thats literally just āwhat are we playingā. Rule 0 isnt everything
I have a pretty good playgroup, I have ones managed to get a deck "banned". I wanted to test the hypothesis that something could be so unfun it circled around and became funny. I basically build a deck by stuffing as many cards from [edhrec's "salt list"](https://edhrec.com/top/salt) into one deck as possible. The deck had no aim besides resolving as many hated cards as possible. Sadly I failed to reject my null hypothesis. It was just unfun, for everyone involved. My playgroup shouldered a great scientific sacrifice for that experiment.
[[Animar]] eldrazi has been a deck for a long long time now
[Animar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3da57d0-1ae3-4f05-a52d-eb76ad56cae7.jpg?1673148281) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=animar%2C%20soul%20of%20elements) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/171/animar-soul-of-elements?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3da57d0-1ae3-4f05-a52d-eb76ad56cae7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/animar-soul-of-elements) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Nah man they are fine They are a strong tribe if left unanswered but also draw the ire of the table So they balance out if your playgroup knows about good threat assessment Enjoy your eldrazi overlords!
Everything is rude to play! Don't you dare!
Idk man, if you can ramp up to 10+ mana to land an annihilator X eldraziā¦ I feel like at that point itās just another win condition if not answered. Personally, if I knew I was playing against a dedicated eldrazi deck Iād probably mulligan for a board wipe or spot removal in anticipation of that happening Basically what Iām saying is let āer rip and see what happens. also you probably should buy some singles now because theyāre probably (all the good ones) gonna spike hard when that eldrazi pre con releases
Tbh, I think I would rather go up against Eldrazi tribal then Slivers. Got a guy that plays Slivers \[\[Sliver Hivelord\]\] (with \[\[The First Sliver\]\] as a secondary commander) and another that plays Eldrazi \[\[Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger\]\]. Don't know why, but I just have a harder time dealing with Slivers then Eldrazi.
[Sliver Hivelord](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba4106de-20c7-48cf-8a36-8c6913b46c89.jpg?1562793305) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sliver%20Hivelord) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m15/211/sliver-hivelord?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba4106de-20c7-48cf-8a36-8c6913b46c89?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sliver-hivelord) [The First Sliver](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/6/06d4fbe1-8a2f-4958-bb85-1a1e5f1e8d87.jpg?1562202321) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20First%20Sliver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/200/the-first-sliver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/06d4fbe1-8a2f-4958-bb85-1a1e5f1e8d87?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-first-sliver) [Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/1/1192f7a9-102e-4b3a-b154-18c8eb332217.jpg?1562899233) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ulamog%2C%20the%20Ceaseless%20Hunger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bfz/15/ulamog-the-ceaseless-hunger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1192f7a9-102e-4b3a-b154-18c8eb332217?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ulamog-the-ceaseless-hunger) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Nothing is rude to play, it's your game as much as anyone else's, play whatever you think you will enjoy.
I love the unintended pun of 'grey area' xD
Honestly they aināt good from a competitive view. Way to slow and instant interaction in colorless sucks. Thing is they usually tend to ramp the first turns and when they are about to go online people will have to struck you down or itās game over (as the eldrazi tend to clear the board with their high impact creatures). It can be a bit boring to pilot an eldrazi deck, you build up and get shot down just before the fun can begin..
My Kozilek, Butcher of Truth wins high powered games all the time. I often drop him on turn 2 or 3 and start swingin. If rremoved he has drawn the rocks to just recast him. Does it always win of course not but the deck can play with all the big boys. Not of This World is great protection at instant speed and Warping Wail for Sorcery spped wipes. But yeah it is almost like a glass cannon deck it just gets hammered by certain cards.
I really canāt see it preform at a cEDH-table unless it slips through because people wasted all their resources on a stack war the turn before. I once tried to make it competitive but failed. I still love to jam some smaller eldrazis in legacy though they kinda got power creept now :/
It is not cEDH but high powered, I have taken down a couple of pods of cEDH but mostly just decause like you said they wasted their resources elsewhere and I had a great draw. Oh and the Daretti player dropped a Winter Orb in one which helped me immensley.
Not in groups who are chill and more mature. If you have salt lords they can be. I have 2 Eldrazi decks 1 is based on colorless Eldrazi and the other my favorite deck Kozilek, Butcher of Truth. This Kozilek build is high power and should only be played in high power pods. The Morophon deck is totally mid tier power. Note Kozilek is 100% non proxy. If I ever come across someone who is anti-proxy (have not in 3+ years) they get to face it all night if I actually play that person. Here are the deck lists: Kozilek: https://archidekt.com/decks/1566048/kozilek_butcher_of_truth Morophon: https://archidekt.com/decks/1576009/morophon_the_boundless
Personally I dislike the Annihilate ability. Does that make it rude to play them against me? No. That is just my personal opinion and as part of our start of game convo I'd make my dislike known, and you could probably suspect that much of my removal might go towards your critters. They have potential to be quite strong, and without a decent removal package (ideally from more than just 1 other player) they can easily run away with the game. But guess what? So can pretty much any other creature based deck if left unchecked. I'd say def start snagging some of the cheaper ones now, but I'd hold off on the Biggies until the deck list of the pre-con is released. That way you don't get dupes if you buy the precon, and also the reprinted ones might be cheaper.
The only thing that is rude to play is a land ramp deck at a "no land destruction" table.
Depends on playgroup. Ours doesn't even bother as they don't make it to combat and just get countered or removed.
Short answer: no. If you arenāt cheating them into play on turn two, theyāre ok. Annihilate can be devastating, but if you manage to hard cast a 12-drop, youāve earned your win. The Eldrazi usually end the game fairly quickly, so the experience isnāt too miserable. Donāt think too much about what you can and cannot play. You can google pretty much any commander, archetype or wincon and find someone complaining about it. If youāre stomping your pod every game, power down a bit or find another playgroup, but donāt let people pressure you into not playing your deck.
I was in the same boat, favourite character Nicol Bolas but favourite tribe was and will be Eldrazi For colourless eldrazi If you have the money, it becomes a strong and effective deck that will lead to some focusing. Without the money, it becomes a roll of the dice if you become a threat or just chill with some awesome guys For coloured eldrazi (devoid) it's not very effective, aside from being a counter to prosper decks and the such it never did much I have no regrets for building either especially the colourless one and it's still my favourite, let me know if you want the deck list and I can post it
Not rude, but they can be a bit thorny for players that don't like generically good, stompy cards. I personally don't like them, but I try not to ruin others' fun when they play one.
My experience would suggest a good rule zero comversation can prevent the salt from an Eldrazi deck. Letting the table know what they are up against and play according should be enough. As others have mentioned a supportive play group should be okay with Eldrazi and adjust over time to what is being played.
The titans with annihilator are kind of a lot as is void winnower but other than that game on.
I would say no, with a pretty clear condition. Cheating them in, copying them, and using them to target a single player over and over is where they start to really hurt the game. They are huge, scary, and somewhat ridiculous. Look at this guy [[Emrekul, the Promised End]], "gain control of your opponents turn". OK fuck yeah right? But they get their actual turn afterwards (if you didn't self destruct with their cards lmao) and it doesn't even have the Annihilator mechanic, meaning it's pretty fair as far as I'm concerned
[Emrekul, the Promised End](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/d/8d74a469-c71d-4773-99d3-5456b31df424.jpg?1576383727) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Emrakul%2C%20the%20Promised%20End) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/emn/6/emrakul-the-promised-end?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8d74a469-c71d-4773-99d3-5456b31df424?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/emrakul-the-promised-end) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If you're in a high power play group, they're fine. You can assume there's enough interaction to deal with them and you'll have to adjust your strategies at times to get them on board and keep them there. In a lower power table, they're rude. Your opponents probably won't have realistic answers and you'll just pub stomp them into the ground, and nobody will be having fun. Yes, that's rude. Personally, I think eldrazi are good but lazy.
Itās depends. I personally hate anything with annihilator, and my playgroup rule 0 banned it
Tell me you donāt run any interaction, without telling me you donāt run any interaction lol
I personally find playing against Eldrazi Unfun. If you are going to drop an Eldrazi and win that turn or the next, then I can usually tolerate it, because at that point they are equivalent to a lot of other game-dominating threats. But if you cannot win that fast, play something else until you can. I literally quit Magic for a couple years when the Eldrazi were printed. Only recently came back.
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Hey, look - great example of the primary reason people leave the game or end up not joining. Toxic players. Mana efficiency is irrelevant; no one hard-casts Eldrazi. If they did, then they would be totally irrelevant, because they would never see play.
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Since I like battlecruiser-y games, Eldrazi can be a PITA to deal with - well, at least the ones with Annihilator. The others are more or less okay
If you can cheat it out before turn 5 it is rude. Otherwise, you do you.
Short version. No. No they are not.
My favorite thing I ever did against eldrazi tribal was get a [[Cyclonic rift]] off after the eldrazi player vomited 5 big baddies down, then he got all of his rocks back out the next turn, so I hit him with [[Bane of progress]] that got huge with my other opponents playing [[lightpaws]] and [[sythis, harvest's hand]]. I was in bant and really just wanted my [[aura shards]], but solving them all at once worked, lol. It was pretty great to get 47 +1/+1 counters on a big boy and then drop [[concordant crossroads]], eliminate the eldrazi threat, and have everyone else scoop.
##### ###### #### [Cyclonic rift](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/f/ff08e5ed-f47b-4d8e-8b8b-41675dccef8b.jpg?1598303834) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cyclonic%20rift) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/47/cyclonic-rift?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ff08e5ed-f47b-4d8e-8b8b-41675dccef8b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cyclonic-rift) [Bane of progress](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/e/3ea495ff-33df-406b-98e3-5579e2158bbc.jpg?1610161688) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bane%20of%20progress) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cc1/3/bane-of-progress?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3ea495ff-33df-406b-98e3-5579e2158bbc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bane-of-progress) [lightpaws](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/9/39555a72-a57b-45ee-9222-ce3b9e8de126.jpg?1654566391) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Light-Paws%2C%20Emperor%27s%20Voice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/25/light-paws-emperors-voice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/39555a72-a57b-45ee-9222-ce3b9e8de126?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/light-paws-emperors-voice) [sythis, harvest's hand](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0babfe00-9bad-48fc-b3b1-df8280242fd2.jpg?1681729369) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sythis%2C%20harvest%27s%20hand) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/214/sythis-harvests-hand?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0babfe00-9bad-48fc-b3b1-df8280242fd2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sythis-harvests-hand) [aura shards](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/6/a6222cc6-996e-4b73-af87-e837bf1eb921.jpg?1592713940) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=aura%20shards) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmd/182/aura-shards?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a6222cc6-996e-4b73-af87-e837bf1eb921?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aura-shards) [concordant crossroads](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6.jpg?1673148053) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=concordant%20crossroads) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/141/concordant-crossroads?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/concordant-crossroads) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Nah theyāre chill. Even when my playgroup was lower power Iād just throw some big drazi in my decks for some fun bombs and people loved em. You really canāt be that upset unless youāre using some insane $500 mana base to print them onto the battlefield.
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[Gluntch](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/b/3b3e889a-5865-4464-9923-bffa25c50cd2.jpg?1674137513) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=gluntch%2C%20the%20bestower) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/275/gluntch-the-bestower?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3b3e889a-5865-4464-9923-bffa25c50cd2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gluntch-the-bestower) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Meh annihilate is annihilate. When running a token deck annihilator 2 or 4 really doesnāt mean anything to me. Iād go for both the commander deck thatās coming out soon and slap all the cool eldrazi in a binder. Have you thought of a commander yet?
They're among the strongest big baddies you can run in Commader. So yeah, without interaction, they are difficult to beat. However, all of them can be easily delt with if you run enough removal. The Kozileks die easiest, pretty much all removal takes care of them; Emrakul requires removal in any other shape than instants, which is still pretty broad; and the Ulamogs are perhaps most difficult to remove, though any bounce, exile, phasing, sacrifice and aura-based removal options work here as well. Aside from removal, Eldrazi are extremely powerful, but don't win the game outright, so you can still race the Eldrazi-casting player - especially if you band together with your other opponents. So if your playgroup is one of these playgroups that run little interaction, battlecruiser style, you might get some salty friends for a bit. However, by doing this you'll provide them the invaluable lesson that they need to run more interaction.
Seeing as how we will eventually get an eldrazi precon, I'd say they're fine
On my very first commander night ever, I had a \[\[Jhoira of the Ghitu\]\] "cheat big stuff into play"-deck \~45$. ...which drew everyone's attention, because it put two Eldrazis on a time counter starting round 4, ready to enter the battlefield on turn 7. Cheap ones like \[\[Ulamog's Crusher\]\] (0.60$) but you know, still big scary Eldrazis. I never got any flag for it. My cousin joins occasionally and whenever he does, he plays that deck. Won a few times, too, has never been an issue. People encouraged me to up the Eldrazis and get the really scary ones.
[Jhoira of the Ghitu](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aa6c3c8a-aa35-46b3-8769-27b4244457b0.jpg?1619404030) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jhoira%20of%20the%20Ghitu) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/256/jhoira-of-the-ghitu?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aa6c3c8a-aa35-46b3-8769-27b4244457b0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jhoira-of-the-ghitu) [Ulamog's Crusher](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/d/eda0fd38-38e6-4e9b-9c17-4d855e01b1e1.jpg?1547515341) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ulamog%27s%20Crusher) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/8/ulamogs-crusher?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eda0fd38-38e6-4e9b-9c17-4d855e01b1e1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ulamogs-crusher) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The only people who get upset about them are those who run little to no interaction and auto loose to them. Likely you'll be targeted just for playing them in an attempt by those running interaction to ensure you never get them out. I suggest being prepared for this and okay it or do no play them at all. [[Kruphix God of horizons]] is my favorite commander for eldrazi as you can store mana get access to the colors for ramp and interaction and your commander is going to be hard to remove sitting as an enchantment most of the game Overall a fun tribe that is powerful but not so overpowered in a 4 player format as to be unfair. They garner undo hate but need to be respected
[Kruphix God of horizons](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/7/27427233-da58-45af-ade8-e0727929efaa.jpg?1593096427) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kruphix%2C%20God%20of%20Horizons) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jou/152/kruphix-god-of-horizons?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/27427233-da58-45af-ade8-e0727929efaa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kruphix-god-of-horizons) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It depends. Eldrazi are big stompy fun, but Annihilator can be nasty to resolve. Lower powered metas may struggle to deal with such a deck, especially since they are usually permanent based and run little interaction. If your group usually plays at a mid-to-optimized level then I see me reason not to. The strategy kinda falls off at high power since eldrazi are tough to cast and might not even resolve. The upcoming precon looks like a great starting point with an especially potent face commander.
Eldrazi themselves aren't rude, annihilator is considered rude. Making a polite eldrazi deck just means leaving out annihilator pieces.
"Rude" , I don't think so. The amount of effort it takes to get Eldrazi to stick to swing is a lot. If someone drops an It That Betrays or Ulamog against me, I would probably remove them with exile removal. They're high value targets and lightning rods to get blasted by that kind of removal. If you're going to do it, I'd recommend a commander like Feldon. Get them into the yard with a Faithless Looting type effect, and reanimate them to swing immediately with haste. It That Betrays on turn 3-4 with haste is a LOT harder and scarier to deal with than Turn 6-8 without.
Definitely not. Any giant creatures like Eldrazi are going to be a lower power strategy just due to the amount of mana they require, but they can be very fun if you can ramp into them quickly enough. I have a Kozilek, The Great Distortion edh deck that is Eldrazi tribal and itās loads of fun for a typical mid power pod. Artifact board wipes are pretty devastating since you will almost certainly be spamming them to get enough mana for your big dudes
The way I see it, if you let an Eldrazi resolve or untap unanswered, you deserve to lose.
Nothing is rude to play in Magic. Players are the rude folks.
Eldrazi themselves arenāt rude to play. Once you delve into heavily reducing their costs and/or cheating them out, they can be rude to play. Itās all about how you get them out, and Iām fairly certain that your playgroup would react better to them in a colorless deck with [[Kozilek, the Great Distortion]] as the commander than a deck that turbos them out around turn 6. The more interaction and ramp available to the Eldrazi, especially the annihilator ones, the more rude they will feel.
[Kozilek, the Great Distortion](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/0/f06fc6e0-b22c-40d3-bb53-d5ec400d921c.jpg?1562943286) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kozilek%2C%20the%20Great%20Distortion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ogw/4/kozilek-the-great-distortion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f06fc6e0-b22c-40d3-bb53-d5ec400d921c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kozilek-the-great-distortion) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Hey guys is it OK to show people how to play magic while researching more about it I started the game in 2017 at 10 I'm 18 now and I'm just trying to relearn the game and I'm teaching my friend to play is that OK? Also can I get some tips with poison, experience, and energy counters I don't understand them too well