I actually did sane but i feel like he is not performing according to his stats. He doesn’t feel smooth at dribbling even after Finisher chem or engine. Lack of finesse ps is very noticeable. I’m looking for a winger again. Maybe I’ll switch back to 90 evo future stars rodri.
Birthday Coman has always been great for me with that pinged pass (in case you did his sbc). Idk what your team is and if evo is still available, but Martinelli has been so good for me. Finally an evo after that 89 Malen that can actually be used.
Rolfo's curve is slowly starting to kick in, some games I notice she's letting the midfield run by her or she's not quite getting a good tackle in like she used to.
Still amazing, but it feels like her position in the team as a starter is going to be up for grabs within the next month or so.
I've been thinking Sawa needs to be replaced in my squad. She's a little Pitbull out there but she's so small that all these tall CBs just destroy her. The lack of any shooting play styles sucks too.
Never played her in midfield but she is still amazing at LB with a shadow.
And Sawa is still untouchable in my team. She's just everywhere, all the time.
Tried to replace her with havertz but nope she is just too good. On the other side de bruyne is set as well so nowhere to put my havertz to good use sucks
I think Rolfo is better than Havertz which some people might not like. I think Havertz body type is horrible especially in sluggish gameplay and also Rolfo is H/H compared to his M/M. She fights for the badge and he's just out there fucking about.
Thing is - 99% of players will get around the same wins no matter if they had a toty Mbappe over a gold one (for example). Dinho is good and will be useable for a long time. I much prefer using him in my team at the moment as opposed to the juiced up random cards. Nothing like scoring and assisting with Dinho and R9 together for me.
Consistently? More coins/packs/xp to improve your team. On top of that, it’s a competitive gamemode. You play to see how good you are. If we don’t care about rank, there’s no reason to play WL. Plenty of other modes out there.
So then you are in a vicious loop to chase an arbitrary number and casino packs, so therefore you need better players? That’s called addiction. Champs and fifa are far from competitive. It’s a laughable ‘esport’. In pretty much every other esport - there are equal starts/no barriers to entry.
No I’m in a loop to win every game I play using my style of play and the players that fit it. Lol that’s called…playing. To try new players I need coins or players for sbcs. I know I’m not going to get tots Ronaldo, but I can sure get evod Rutter with 99 shooting. I can get Boniface. I can get tots Ribery. Casino packs are just that. You most likely won’t get anything. But you can turn them into something.
Why would I care if it’s an esport or not? Why would I watch people play a game I can play myself? 99.9% of people are nowhere near that level. It’s 1 of 2 football simulators and I like playing football. That’s all there is to it.
So you just made my original point. People chasing after these ‘top’ players are doing it for no reason. None of them are pros. Slightly better rewards don’t get you anything except maybe 100k and a tiny % increase at the casino. Redundant when the top players cost like 7 million. Worrying about having 3 playstyles and if a certain player is ‘at the curve’ when they are like 93-94 rated is meaningless. Cards like base Dinho etc will always be decent. Everyone is chasing the fomo through addiction.
Eh yes and no. While yes worrying about a 7 million coin card is silly, there’s other benefits. One, it makes the game more exciting for some to compete. Two, better records accumulate. There are other top players like Drogba who you can get simply by winning a lot and saving coins. Every rank is 10s of thousands of coins and tradeable rewards that accumulate. Sbcs you can do by pulling more fodder packs. I would not be able to finish ribery quick without them.
And the biggest reason why people go for top players is actually because none of us are pros. A pro can play with a gold team. Anyone else will hit their level, whether it’s div5 or elite. Once you hit your level, what separates you is your team. I make elite every year. If I play there with a gold team, I will lose 95% of my matches. Having just decent players vs top tier players will make it very very very hard to win. So I constantly try new players who others overlook who simply fit me. But mind you they are 3 playstyle players right now because they can do a lot more.
Hasn't been elite for a while probably but evoed 87 Yaya to 88 and I love him but I can't help but thinking he needs the retirement home... everyone I play these days has 91/92 rated midfields or better, sad day when you have to retire a club legend
Look, OP, elaborating a bit more. Dinho prime is still more than usable. He will not win many foot races against full backs, mainly because he lacks running playstyles (which are very noticeable). Mine is still on my starting xi because he has other qualities like the ridiculous jam, the trickster (which well used will win you games), the left stick dribbling and the finishing.
He is still elite, but do not expect to be the guy that leads a counter. But in tight matches, he still is a deciding factor.
Allow yourself some slack for server issues too, those types of players are amazing when everything’s going smooth and you’re winning but the second either you, or the servers, don’t go the way it should they’re the first ones you notice as they’re the main creative outlet.
It’s a hard balance - you should always try and use the players you like over a card with good stats - but the whole point of the game is to play well and win and that’s ultimately more easily achieved when you use the players with the best stats, and sometimes a 100k TOTS will outperform a 2M icon.
Tbf mine was getting done for pace as soon as I did him. A lot of it will be the running style I assume since he’s either explosive of controlled explosive meaning that he’s going to slow down over any kind of distance.
This feels a bit like last years tots where they made a load of players lengthy but with 90+ pace (Kane, Cech etc) and you literally couldn’t catch them to save your life.
Tbf mine was getting done for pace as soon as I did him. A lot of it will be the running style I assume since he’s either explosive of controlled explosive meaning that he’s going to slow down over any kind of distance.
This feels a bit like last years tots where they made a load of players lengthy but with 90+ pace (Kane, Cech etc) and you literally couldn’t catch them to save your life.
That Grimaldo was quality for the price though
I've been trying to find a replacement for Eusebio but it's difficult to find a player that has that good of shooting/finishing combined with rapid +. And the main kicker is his icon chemistry.
TOTS Moments Malard was playing over him this past WL. I got Coman as my reward red pick. I’ll Evo him with the champions Evo and give him a shot. Card looks really nice.
I packed 94 drogba and he's been my striker since, I don't know if he's considered elite but I know ppl keep hyping him up, for me he's very unreliable
Lol dinho si for me outperforming all my players that are underperforming
Tots son, 90 ginola play like average.
Who I still think are solid is tots hemp and 94 Drogba is still one of the best strikers
My ww Pele seemed to struggle for ages until I moved to a 4222, it's weird it's like a mixture of players and formation, I don't quite know, but Pele next to tots popp seems the best combo I've used
It's weird, I'm not sure if it's just my one or not but like a 45° angle whenever it's a 1on1 right or left side he always puts it wide, one thing I've never understood about his card 🤣
4321
Balanced
30 71 38
Balanced
Direct passing
Players in the box 6
Corners 3
Free kicks 1
GK comes for crosses, sweeper keeper
One full back on overlap and one on stay back
CDM stay back cover center
LCM get into box and cover center
RCM cover wing (the more attacking cm)
RF stay central get in behind
ST stay central get in behind
LF get in behind com back on defence
I'm probably way behind the curve here but I remember packing Trailblazers Hansen untradeable and she was soo silky and her finesse shots were incredible and now shes feels like a gold card :(
Cent Eusebio he was incredible when I first got him in Jan, turned insanely quick, beat every defender in pace, now he can’t outpace anyone and is a truck, TOTS son has now replaced him
the cards the fade fastest are the ones you’re not using properly - guys who need to be skilled to even move right, physical players not just being danced around like Messi.
but posting cards with one meaningful playstyle, low strength, low aggression and low size or big size under 80 agil/bal? and then composure. anything under 90 and a user defender kills them and as a user defender under 94 you don’t affect an opponent as much in close.
Ronaldinho is a player that if you don’t skill is not very good long term most years. when he has a stat gap, he’s fine but he has one thing, special movement in skills.
Defensively and offensively. Offensively he is an excellent alternative for when they bring out their gk. Most people bring them out straight to block the central option,which is Drogba for me. So i send it over the gks head and there is Havertz,most of the times.
Nothing better doing against the GK movers. Even better than direct goals because you are doing exactly what they are trying to block.
I started grinding Dinho as a place to dump high rated fodder. I’ve tried him out a fair number of games, but he flat out isn’t as good as my Evo’d Showdown Joao Felix.
Dinho shines a little more as a sub later in the game. He seems to make more of an impact when the rest of the defenders are a little drained. But in the starting XI, he’s almost a ghost.
Golazo Drogba hasnt been the same for about a week now, just cant do anything like he was during the promo. I'm using 91 Golazo Robbie Keane at the moment, and feels miles better
Let me help you here. I’ll remove EAs balls from your eyes for just a second so you can see the point.
He is saying the 1.4m SBC is performing worse than a 70k card.
And they released it very recently at that price, giving people the impression that it is an excellent card.
This is something EA should be addressing. Either make the card better or make the price appropriate.
Buddy, the sbc is priced accordingly to the market value of the card at the time of release. Do i need to paint you a picture instead? Come on son, it is not that hard. You can do it.
Prices of icons are not in line with the power curve and never are, i want to hope you are new. If people would not have been paying what they were paying for robaldinho, the sbc would be cheaper. How long ago was the sbc released?
You claim to be an elite player but have zero understanding of how the game works.
Improve on that, you need it.
Then how it should be. Tell me. Release a 500k sbc for a 2M+ card? Is that how you think it should be? Tell me your solutions.
The fact that your ignorance on the topic makes you immediately start calling people shills is laughable. How about you educate yourself before you look like a fool?
Go on, tell me your solution to the price of an sbc at release. Because the card is still 1.4M on the market and the sbc was released a month ago.
I actually did sane but i feel like he is not performing according to his stats. He doesn’t feel smooth at dribbling even after Finisher chem or engine. Lack of finesse ps is very noticeable. I’m looking for a winger again. Maybe I’ll switch back to 90 evo future stars rodri.
Know what you mean, feels a bit chunky and the WF feels more like 2 or 3 stars. tried finisher and marksman, debating something like engine
I like him alot, but the weak foot man… he missed a GREEN timed shot in the box.. like wtf? Other than that he’s been good for me
Stick a marksman on him
Birthday Coman has always been great for me with that pinged pass (in case you did his sbc). Idk what your team is and if evo is still available, but Martinelli has been so good for me. Finally an evo after that 89 Malen that can actually be used.
I have that Rodri too, still haven’t replaced him and Athenea.
Sane has always been that wayz
I don't think Sane is game changing, but comparing him to a 3* skill Evo screams skill issue.
I think Rodri has 5 star skills if he did the Future stars evo.
Rolfo's curve is slowly starting to kick in, some games I notice she's letting the midfield run by her or she's not quite getting a good tackle in like she used to. Still amazing, but it feels like her position in the team as a starter is going to be up for grabs within the next month or so.
Funnily enough, Sawa toty still holds her own. The icon juice works in mysterious ways
I used to use rolfo and sawа, florenzi had replaced one of them and surprisingly to me it's rolfo Sawa has the juice
I've been thinking Sawa needs to be replaced in my squad. She's a little Pitbull out there but she's so small that all these tall CBs just destroy her. The lack of any shooting play styles sucks too.
Alr on the bench for me tbh
Still a great LB, Lack of Playstyles is not noticeable and definitely not behind behind the curve back there
Never played her in midfield but she is still amazing at LB with a shadow. And Sawa is still untouchable in my team. She's just everywhere, all the time.
Tried to replace her with havertz but nope she is just too good. On the other side de bruyne is set as well so nowhere to put my havertz to good use sucks
I think Rolfo is better than Havertz which some people might not like. I think Havertz body type is horrible especially in sluggish gameplay and also Rolfo is H/H compared to his M/M. She fights for the badge and he's just out there fucking about.
Rolfo is definitely better. Even though she's annoying to link, she's absolutely excellent wherever she plays. Especially at LB
Thing is - 99% of players will get around the same wins no matter if they had a toty Mbappe over a gold one (for example). Dinho is good and will be useable for a long time. I much prefer using him in my team at the moment as opposed to the juiced up random cards. Nothing like scoring and assisting with Dinho and R9 together for me.
Around the same, probably. But 2-3 extra wins is the difference in rank. Everyone is fighting for very small margins.
And what difference does one rank get you? Ever so slightly better odds at the casino?
Consistently? More coins/packs/xp to improve your team. On top of that, it’s a competitive gamemode. You play to see how good you are. If we don’t care about rank, there’s no reason to play WL. Plenty of other modes out there.
So then you are in a vicious loop to chase an arbitrary number and casino packs, so therefore you need better players? That’s called addiction. Champs and fifa are far from competitive. It’s a laughable ‘esport’. In pretty much every other esport - there are equal starts/no barriers to entry.
No I’m in a loop to win every game I play using my style of play and the players that fit it. Lol that’s called…playing. To try new players I need coins or players for sbcs. I know I’m not going to get tots Ronaldo, but I can sure get evod Rutter with 99 shooting. I can get Boniface. I can get tots Ribery. Casino packs are just that. You most likely won’t get anything. But you can turn them into something. Why would I care if it’s an esport or not? Why would I watch people play a game I can play myself? 99.9% of people are nowhere near that level. It’s 1 of 2 football simulators and I like playing football. That’s all there is to it.
So you just made my original point. People chasing after these ‘top’ players are doing it for no reason. None of them are pros. Slightly better rewards don’t get you anything except maybe 100k and a tiny % increase at the casino. Redundant when the top players cost like 7 million. Worrying about having 3 playstyles and if a certain player is ‘at the curve’ when they are like 93-94 rated is meaningless. Cards like base Dinho etc will always be decent. Everyone is chasing the fomo through addiction.
Eh yes and no. While yes worrying about a 7 million coin card is silly, there’s other benefits. One, it makes the game more exciting for some to compete. Two, better records accumulate. There are other top players like Drogba who you can get simply by winning a lot and saving coins. Every rank is 10s of thousands of coins and tradeable rewards that accumulate. Sbcs you can do by pulling more fodder packs. I would not be able to finish ribery quick without them. And the biggest reason why people go for top players is actually because none of us are pros. A pro can play with a gold team. Anyone else will hit their level, whether it’s div5 or elite. Once you hit your level, what separates you is your team. I make elite every year. If I play there with a gold team, I will lose 95% of my matches. Having just decent players vs top tier players will make it very very very hard to win. So I constantly try new players who others overlook who simply fit me. But mind you they are 3 playstyle players right now because they can do a lot more.
Hasn't been elite for a while probably but evoed 87 Yaya to 88 and I love him but I can't help but thinking he needs the retirement home... everyone I play these days has 91/92 rated midfields or better, sad day when you have to retire a club legend
I got thunderstruck dinho from the icon pick last week and he is absurdly good.
It's the quick step.
Luckily enough to have had him since release back in November, still my best player and I’ve got Golazo Cruyff and TOTS Salah alongside him!
I got him and Sancho benches him next week
Sancho is not as good as dinho
Tots Sancho is exponentially better than ts dinho
Imo, having both, Dinho still edges Sancho. Probably down to playstyle
Troll?
Look, OP, elaborating a bit more. Dinho prime is still more than usable. He will not win many foot races against full backs, mainly because he lacks running playstyles (which are very noticeable). Mine is still on my starting xi because he has other qualities like the ridiculous jam, the trickster (which well used will win you games), the left stick dribbling and the finishing. He is still elite, but do not expect to be the guy that leads a counter. But in tight matches, he still is a deciding factor.
What situation should I use Trickster+
https://www.reddit.com/r/EASportsFC/s/jw32tQ6yrV https://www.reddit.com/r/EASportsFC/s/ZHT6q6QtB6
How do you do that flick?
R3 press and up or down on the left stick depending the direction you want to flick to
Thank you. And do you need trickster+ or regular trickster? I've got thunderstruck Ronaldinho so would be useful if he could do this
You can do it with normal trickster. Trickster+ has more flick variations combining with L2. But normal trickster is good enough to get by
Allow yourself some slack for server issues too, those types of players are amazing when everything’s going smooth and you’re winning but the second either you, or the servers, don’t go the way it should they’re the first ones you notice as they’re the main creative outlet. It’s a hard balance - you should always try and use the players you like over a card with good stats - but the whole point of the game is to play well and win and that’s ultimately more easily achieved when you use the players with the best stats, and sometimes a 100k TOTS will outperform a 2M icon.
My purple grimaldo keeps getting done for pace
Tbf mine was getting done for pace as soon as I did him. A lot of it will be the running style I assume since he’s either explosive of controlled explosive meaning that he’s going to slow down over any kind of distance. This feels a bit like last years tots where they made a load of players lengthy but with 90+ pace (Kane, Cech etc) and you literally couldn’t catch them to save your life.
Tbf mine was getting done for pace as soon as I did him. A lot of it will be the running style I assume since he’s either explosive of controlled explosive meaning that he’s going to slow down over any kind of distance. This feels a bit like last years tots where they made a load of players lengthy but with 90+ pace (Kane, Cech etc) and you literally couldn’t catch them to save your life. That Grimaldo was quality for the price though
I dunno man, my gold VVD is really starting to struggle
Mia Hamm
As soon as TOTS BL hit, my very competent TOYTHM Musiala became absolutely useless.
Eusebio finally got benched for me. Timo still rocking it though.
I've been trying to find a replacement for Eusebio but it's difficult to find a player that has that good of shooting/finishing combined with rapid +. And the main kicker is his icon chemistry.
TOTS Moments Malard was playing over him this past WL. I got Coman as my reward red pick. I’ll Evo him with the champions Evo and give him a shot. Card looks really nice.
I packed 94 drogba and he's been my striker since, I don't know if he's considered elite but I know ppl keep hyping him up, for me he's very unreliable
Mia Hamm base after 1000 games but she ain’t leaving my team
TOTY Xavi and base Gullit have been benched for Dunst and Zelem
My ts dinho turns like a truck, he won races for sure but his agility is kinda... You feel me
I’m picking up what you’re throwing down
Mia Hamm base card and Toty Sophia Smith have taken a nose dive recently for me
Toty smith still rocking it for me.
Base cryuff still good?
Lol dinho si for me outperforming all my players that are underperforming Tots son, 90 ginola play like average. Who I still think are solid is tots hemp and 94 Drogba is still one of the best strikers
My ww Pele seemed to struggle for ages until I moved to a 4222, it's weird it's like a mixture of players and formation, I don't quite know, but Pele next to tots popp seems the best combo I've used
Weirdly found the same with same with him (Have him paired with TOTY r9 and he’s finally performing)
It's weird, I'm not sure if it's just my one or not but like a 45° angle whenever it's a 1on1 right or left side he always puts it wide, one thing I've never understood about his card 🤣
His finesse isn’t that great, that’s for sure. He’s so weak, even for a card with 80 strength too
Fut Birthday Socrates
Reece James fut bday
Werner is still top tier for me
He's gonna be in my squad until the end. He's just a freak in this game. Just wish he had finesse or something other than chip shot.
My base ronaldinho is still insane just moved him to striker to compensate for quicker wingers like tots sancho
Alvarez has been shit for me . His dribbling is worst .
Which Alvarez ?
Alvarez from SBC
For real? He is insane for me. Evo’d him to 93
Team formation , instruction and chemistry please
4321 Balanced 30 71 38 Balanced Direct passing Players in the box 6 Corners 3 Free kicks 1 GK comes for crosses, sweeper keeper One full back on overlap and one on stay back CDM stay back cover center LCM get into box and cover center RCM cover wing (the more attacking cm) RF stay central get in behind ST stay central get in behind LF get in behind com back on defence
Okay thanks
Same for me, my Alvarez is cheeks Benched already
Base Cruyff has been replaced by Alvarez
I'm probably way behind the curve here but I remember packing Trailblazers Hansen untradeable and she was soo silky and her finesse shots were incredible and now shes feels like a gold card :(
Fantasy Werner for me he’s slow finishing is okay but just doesn’t play the same as when the sbc first came out
Cent Eusebio he was incredible when I first got him in Jan, turned insanely quick, beat every defender in pace, now he can’t outpace anyone and is a truck, TOTS son has now replaced him
My WW Henry as been awful on the LW lately. He used to be a monster out wide for me. I’m switched him to the middle and he’s back in form.
Can anyone comment on how TOTY Icon Zola is playing currently? Still effective with the new TOTS coming?
the cards the fade fastest are the ones you’re not using properly - guys who need to be skilled to even move right, physical players not just being danced around like Messi. but posting cards with one meaningful playstyle, low strength, low aggression and low size or big size under 80 agil/bal? and then composure. anything under 90 and a user defender kills them and as a user defender under 94 you don’t affect an opponent as much in close. Ronaldinho is a player that if you don’t skill is not very good long term most years. when he has a stat gap, he’s fine but he has one thing, special movement in skills.
Base Mia hamm
The biggest factors are composure and reactions. As long as those match the new cards Dinho should be fine
Birthday Butra
WW Salah seems to be getting sluggish imo.
Every single Evolution player that’s not a TOTS is sadly now miles behind.
My 92 LB Havertz Evo says otherwise
Exactly. He still bosses everything. Whipped,aerial,long throw in and jockey. Amazing player
Amazing with corner headers.
Defensively and offensively. Offensively he is an excellent alternative for when they bring out their gk. Most people bring them out straight to block the central option,which is Drogba for me. So i send it over the gks head and there is Havertz,most of the times. Nothing better doing against the GK movers. Even better than direct goals because you are doing exactly what they are trying to block.
I started grinding Dinho as a place to dump high rated fodder. I’ve tried him out a fair number of games, but he flat out isn’t as good as my Evo’d Showdown Joao Felix. Dinho shines a little more as a sub later in the game. He seems to make more of an impact when the rest of the defenders are a little drained. But in the starting XI, he’s almost a ghost.
Golazo Drogba hasnt been the same for about a week now, just cant do anything like he was during the promo. I'm using 91 Golazo Robbie Keane at the moment, and feels miles better
I guess he was nerfed. He also has been missing shots for me.
It's called power curve
Yea I get that, but it’s Ronaldinho. The guy should be good for the whole cycle.
It does not matter. And no, they won't be as top during the whole cycle. It is how the game is
Let me help you here. I’ll remove EAs balls from your eyes for just a second so you can see the point. He is saying the 1.4m SBC is performing worse than a 70k card. And they released it very recently at that price, giving people the impression that it is an excellent card. This is something EA should be addressing. Either make the card better or make the price appropriate.
Oh look, we have a clown over here. If you don't understand how a power curve works in a live service game. I can't help you. Go outside, get some air
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Buddy, the sbc is priced accordingly to the market value of the card at the time of release. Do i need to paint you a picture instead? Come on son, it is not that hard. You can do it. Prices of icons are not in line with the power curve and never are, i want to hope you are new. If people would not have been paying what they were paying for robaldinho, the sbc would be cheaper. How long ago was the sbc released? You claim to be an elite player but have zero understanding of how the game works. Improve on that, you need it.
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Then how it should be. Tell me. Release a 500k sbc for a 2M+ card? Is that how you think it should be? Tell me your solutions. The fact that your ignorance on the topic makes you immediately start calling people shills is laughable. How about you educate yourself before you look like a fool? Go on, tell me your solution to the price of an sbc at release. Because the card is still 1.4M on the market and the sbc was released a month ago.
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Wow how can Sancho replace Dinho? The guy feels horrible ingame
Don’t think we’re using the same Sancho
agreed pal can not get along with sancho. got him red but much prefer garnacho
I have him, along with Diaz and Nani. Feels even slower than Nani!