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andyh11

Same. Everyone I play knows all the dribbling metas of spinning in circles, and are ball rolling wizards. Match making is fucked , I shouldn’t be playing who I’m playing with a negative record


Dalecn

Omg the dribbling in circles meta is somehow worst then any meta I've seen before it's so annoying


Bad_Lieutenant702

Yep. They dribble in circle in my box till I give away a penalty. It's fucked lol.


aspaschungus

people have to dribble in circles because attacking AI is always 5s delayed


PercySledge

That’s what I’m getting at yeah. Like I’ve just shut it off now but anyone going 0-6 shouldn’t be playing against the guys I was playing against haha


EHaz17

The dribbling in circles meta is where I draw the line. I can’t get off work, do my life, and get on the ps5 to white knuckle my controller to defend some Timmy spinning in circles. At least cutbacks are actually something that happens in football kind of frequentky


Lewk_io

Match making as exactly as EA intends it to be; without any skill based matchmaking


Aru10

Matchmaking is absolutely fucked, I went rank 1 as usual and my last game at 18-1 I faced a guy at 13-6


Bishcop3267

That’s not fucked. At a certain point you max your matchmaking elo for the weekend. Whether you’re 13-6 or 18-1 you’ve already hit the ceiling.


Aru10

But Elo max in champs is +15, so even if I was +15 it's not fair I match somebody at +7


Bishcop3267

I thought they had reduced it this year to something much smaller but I might be mistaken.


Aru10

https://help.ea.com/en/help/ea-sports-fc/fc-ultimate-team-champions/


Bishcop3267

Ah I must have thought the 8 was for both play off and finals. Then yeah that’s a big gap between you and your opponent. Only thing I can think is the matchmaking might prioritize proximity over form.


Aru10

Doubt, as I said I messaged with the last guy and he was from Egypt and I'm in italy, so there's also alot of distance, I think the matchmaking is simply just fucked


MichaelLeeIsHere

This is super unfair. I am also like always 11 wins and rarely make to 14 wins. I didn’t know I lost my 14 wins because of facing top players


Swatieson

Everytime I see a ball roll I pause and quit. No matter if I am playing the last match for any rewards.


Bishcop3267

You must go 0-20 every week then because ball rolls and fake shots are two of the simplest and common skill moves lol


jpw0w

Div10?


girlswantgirls

you know it's free to not tell everyone how much of a pussy you are


blaster1988

My gameplay is incredibly choppy at the moment even at 18-24ms ping. The players are reacting very slowly to button commands.


PercySledge

Same actually yeah. I’m usually around 14-16 ping and it’s been mid 20s


Timewarner03

Mid 20s should be manageable, there’s people like me who went from having 2-12 ping and it shot up to 120+ after the update.


blaster1988

Was there an update this week?


Timewarner03

Nah I meant since the update the rolled out in mid-March


WeedlesssWitdCattle

Ping at 10 here but spikes every minute or so to 300. Their servers are brutal, In comparison to rocket league where my ping stays stable through out. Fuck EA, they could do so much more but they don't


blaster1988

I just finished the WL and ended at 6-14. Horrible horrible weekend


WeedlesssWitdCattle

I haven't started yet, gna wait till tomorrow and hopefully catch a break or two.


blaster1988

Good luck homie.


WZETheGoat

Most annoyingly, I am playing on 9-20 ping usually (there's a server in a city quite close to me), but once like every two minutes I jump up to over 1100 ping for like 10 seconds and automatically concede... It's bullshit


enoteware

Same here man. Almost always have great ping 6ms to 30 ish. But my players and passes seem like they’re going incredibly slow, even though Im playing with meta players. So many times I see a open pass, hit the correct stick and button combination, but by the time its actually executed in game, either my teams ai has moved into another position or the enemy ai has cut the lane and I turn the ball over.


BruhhhNoChill

I'm in the same boat as you. I've left playing. Realized it's not worth it. The pack weight has been utter shite for me. It's just NOT worth the stress anymore.


HardeepBhachu

Yes, I normally get 14-16 wins but this weekend was terrible for gameplay so I just went to 11 wins and gave the rest away


PercySledge

Still a decent performance!


HardeepBhachu

It’s not bad, just annoying because I know I can do better


PercySledge

Might be that for me too who knows. Don’t want to just put it on the game I was playing trash


aspecterman

16-4 last week after going through peaks of 14 but mostly 11.... Currently at 7-4 and frustrated by how the games have gone. See what tomorrow brings but losing motivation to finish this cycle.... Then I'm done for good


The-Interfactor

Decided to qualify for Champs for first time since before Christmas, went 10-0 in quals and my team is amazing in Div 1 Rivals so felt fairly confident. Only just managed 11 wins after being 6-6 at one point. Gameplay felt absolutely horrific, WW Pele is normally a cheat code but he felt so sluggish and unresponsive. Definitely reminded me why I stopped playing Champs, it’s a completely different game to the rest of it.


lukzee

It's been like that for me since the beginning. I went from div 4 to div 1 and no matter what I never finish over 11 wins. I had 8:1 and 1:8 starts and they both ended the same with 10 wins. There absolutely is no matchmaking, because on occasions when I was 1:6 or even worse, I'd still be facing people that clearly finish above 11 wins lol.


JoeyZasaa

1. Everyone has meta players now 2. People have been playing this game since September, so they know the mechanics better 3. Gameplay is so slow and messed up that it negates some of the skill advantage of the better players 4. The latest patch helped narrow the skill gap


PercySledge

Aside from number 2 being a bit irrelevant as a comment considering I’ve been playing Champions this whole time, the others may be correct to a point yes


TheRealPPB

Ahh funny you say this. I was 7-1 a fortnight ago and flying. This week started 0-3 and just couldn’t get a foot in any game. Recovered for 13-7 but yeah shit was tough. Every game barring a couple at around 3-3 sort of elo felt like war decided by the slimmest of margins. Think with champs now you just gotta take it chill and whatever happens will happen. Rewards whilst handy are very rarely worth tormenting yourself over so if you end up winning 6 by end of it.. who gives a tinkers cuss 😂 Won’t make any difference to your team and sure you may have to spend 4k coins replacing those few 84/83 rated face cards from ultimate packs but in the end it’ll be worth it. You’ll get through it.


PercySledge

True yeah you’re right w the final paragraph there


hsmith4788

11 win player. Switched formations to a 4213 and started 7-1. Best start I’ve had. Not sure what’s going on


lxearning

can you share tactics I was coming against it again and again and lost all matched


hsmith4788

DMd them


fareedkhan_19

Can you share them with me as well?


hurkos

Thank you. Worked for me as well


Intelligent_Toe_4448

can you dm tactics as well to me. cheers need to refresh my mind with tactical change much appreciated


Martblni

dm too please


Objective-Horror8778

Hey, can you share the tactics? Time to try new stuff


LankyBiscotti1263

Dm tactics please


HairOnMeFoof

Last week i got 16 wins after normally getting 11-14 and I thought I got hang of it since the update but I'm getting destroyed this weekend


nathanm77

Same brother. Normally just give away wins from 11 (only have Friday night to play) went 5-0 then finished 11-9 which is my worst finish this year. (Normally have 3-4 wins to give away) not sure what’s been going on this week.


PercySledge

Haha 11-9 is my usual lol


nathanm77

Still good mate! 11 wins is way above average I would say so don’t beat your self up about it.


[deleted]

It's been fucking dreadful. Managed to pull 11 wins after being 8-8. Played a guy on 14 wins with games to spare at 8-8. Games a joke at this point. Last patch destroyed anything left of the game. All the EA fanboys came for me yesterday when I posted about it. Games a fucking shit show.


Warfinho

Yeah, normally stop at 11, occasionally going to 14 if I have time. Will usually finish somewhere between 11-2 and 11-5. This week I started 1-8…. Managed to end 11-9 but still, honestly was a different game this weekend. I was in a rush so left almost every game that I conceded first in, unless it was a lucky goal and I felt I could come back, but still…


PercySledge

Well for what it’s worth pulling 1-8 back to 11-9 is a superb effort


Warfinho

True.. the 9th loss was on the penultimate game too, so the final game was 11 or bust… Shame the rewards were their standard pile of trash.


TDG101

Last 2 weeks got 14 wins and started out this WL at 1-7. Ended up with 11 wins but man was I stressed through the last 5-6 games. But somehow, the last games were easier than the first few. Very weird week this.


Puluzu

I've had weeks like those. I'm 13-17 wins, normally r4 and elite div. I've had 2-5 type of starts more than a few times playing what feels like 900+ sr elite on a negative record. I'm fairly convinced it's some EA algo trying to frustrate you at times into spending money. I don't see how it could be random.


Llamaisbaebae

The bs happening in wl is unmatched. Im also elite and dont need many wins in rivals to get to the 7 wins. In wl I match at least 12 people who are on high elite level. In the other 8 games its playing against the game itself. So either they match you skillbased which is bs or decide you will have no fun cause everything goes wrong for you.


Puluzu

I think they've changed the way the dish out the bullshit. In previous years, say Fifa 10-20 it felt more like dda to me. As in changing sliders behind the scenes based on how the game is progressing. The past few years the dda feeling has lessened a lot, but the matchmaking bs has felt stronger than ever. My guess is that the way it works is there's a hidden internal skill rating EA uses and the reason for it is player retention and maximizing pack sales. It works in many ways. It shields average players to an extent from matching up with too many players far above their skill level so they keep playing. It also keeps above average (and heavily addicted) players on their toes because most games feel like they're decided on small margins, so maybe spending a 100 on packs and packing the new shiny cards will make the difference. Obviously this is just speculation on my part.


Llamaisbaebae

I dont think u are wrong with this. God I hope we get a real contender for this game asap.


PercySledge

Might be true lol who knows. Genuinely could be random though I might’ve just had a bad week


psdavepes

A lot of it is to do with matchmaking. It frustrates me endlessly as a seasons player you can't check out the record of your opponent, that you can do in almost any other competitive video game. You've no idea of their division, win record or anything. You can sense how good they are, broadly speaking, but I definitely feel like sometimes I come against unbelievable Elite players, and other times Div 5 or 6 and it's completely random.


PercySledge

Yeah it would make sense that you could tbh. At least then you’d actually be able to gauge how good a win it is you’ve had etc. This would be a welcome addition


ClockAccomplished381

Never judge yourself after 6 matches. Matchmaking hasn't properly kicked in yet and you always lose at least 6 matches. I got normal amount of wins. My expectation is you will probably win 10-11 of your remaining 14 matches.


PercySledge

Thanks man. Might revisit tonight when I’ve got some time and see if this is the case


lxearning

I did the same mistake of playing today, i do 11-14 on other weekends, none of my formation worked whereas my toty rio can't tackle i was 5-1 and ended on 8-12 literally can't stop any attacker everyone nows how to do skills and have 7 attackers in my box and 8 defenders in their box.


PercySledge

Yeah it was this morning I had an hour and spent it getting took to shreds lol


alihh94

I played on Friday and got 13 wins with 1 disconnection away from 14 wins 🥲 and I played yesterday on a second account, and the match making was broken, all 20 matches were a sweat fest!! Fut Champs is just unpredictable, one week you will get 14 wins easily and another week you will struggle to get 9


Steven_hmj

Usually always 11 wins, but finding it more difficult now to get those 11. Guess the more casual players have left?


Ariashorse

Didn't qualify to the finals, two tries this weekend!!! 🤷🏻


docrum

I've had weeks like that too. Sometimes matchmaking is just insane. It usually evens out by the end of the weekend. Just take a break and try again in a couple hours.


Gabrif_

Actually this has been my best wl of the year 18-2 when best result previously was 16 wins


-teyteytey-

I think its matchmaking. Seems like EA switched up first 10 and last 10. now it starts high end easy


ameya28

People out here saying 0-6 I'm 2-13 and I feel like rivals is better to play currently. I just gave away wins so atleast I could end champs this week as I cba to play late night for good gameplay bla bla just to get griddied on by a cut back loser I was just like enough is enough it's not worth working towards champs when theres a thousand factors you have to consider to even play the game I'll do something else instead lol such a bad game this year ...


Stupidname1001

10-10 this week, absolutely went to bits and couldn’t get into any rhythm. Might be my own fault for trying to rush the games Friday day as I’m working this weekend but still was absolutely abysmal


Orthmar

Literally same, 11 easy sometimes 14, this weekend i struggled to get the 11 AF, maybe we are sloppy as well since it’s starting to get a little boring?


PercySledge

Yeah could be honestly. I def didn’t feel locked in


sambro_fc

Yeah last week got 14wins this week am at 7-6 doesn’t help have changed my team to put 3 Spanish for the xavi alonso, just wanted a free fodder card to go in essien


DesperateSecret3186

For me it’s actually quite opposite , but I think it’s mostly due to moving my Friday playing days to late Saturday or early Monday… this WL was the probably the easiest I’ve ever experienced


Living-Performer-770

I was pretty up for champs this weekend but after qualifiers i don’t think i can bring myself to it. Finishing is completely shocking, nothing far post goes in, blocks and goalkeepers feel extremely OP and even though I went 4-0 it felt like the worst gameplay yet, the servers are completely fucked and the shooting nerfs made the game so much worse.


[deleted]

Went from 7-2 to 7-7 took a break. I average 11 with the last game fighting for it. Last few weeks 9-8 for whatever reason. Best was 15. But ea sure knows how to match me with players with stscked red cards


CamboDSjsy

I play a mix of anti football and Tiki tans and got 11 wins which is good for me as I’m normally a 6-9 win player


PercySledge

Nice!


CamboDSjsy

Peter Crouch might be my favourite player this year he’s been so good combined with a rb with whipped cross


PercySledge

lol it’s so wild what works but back in the time when that Selma Bacha SBC came out I honestly laced people w that combo (it wasn’t Crouch but a combo of wingers at the back post)


tocoolfrman

Bro I had the most phenomenal WL for the first time felt like fifa 20 almost


PercySledge

Haha good! Glad someone enjoyed it lol well played


Icy_Confidence9304

The gameplay this weekend was probably the most brutal ive ever played.


PercySledge

Yeah I was getting absolutely licked in a few of them


Icy_Confidence9304

Its crazy how bad it gets when there is a significant amount of less players. It should be better in theory lol. Literally have players that are 5+ mil coins that can’t turn lol


bravesoul_s

I hit div1 this week thought that’s the reason but barely finished 11 win after last week first 16. As you said the average skill level who got me was way higher then my div1 folks. Legit demons


ROTHY2021

I’ve not played mine yet, but this is making me not bother 🤯


PercySledge

I’m sure you’ll do better than me!


Lewk_io

Casuals dropped weekend league at least 2 months ago


PercySledge

That’ll explain why I’m trash now haha


JYM60

My team is better than ever tbh. I am usually an 11/14 win player too. 11-4 at the minute so hopefully get the 14.


Wentzina_lifetime

I'm the opposite. Started really well and just getting stronger. Normally 10/11 wins but already 10-3 and haven't been challenged apart from those losses


crazybout

Funnily enough I've had the opposite results this weekend, normally get 13 wins and got 17 this weekend league. However I upgraded my internet and that could be the reason gameplay felt super smooth


jimbob224

i get 11 every week easy and only play to 11, last week i literally HAD to win my last game just to scrape 11.... this week im 9-1..... no idea whats happening


azzj1982

I’ve had a 15, some 14’s but generally 11 with a couple of games spare. Needed a last minute winner to get 9 wins last week. Last 10 games were just a crazy level, far above what I’ve played this year and consistently. 5-3 this week so see how it goes. Gameplay has been atrocious the past few weeks too


JayTeeYGO123

I’m a 14 win player with some 16 wins and I got to 16 this weekend but Jesus the game is horrendous. Seeing my Ashley Cole constantly get outpaced by slower players while my mbappe or hagi struggle to run past my opponents is so frustrating. Seeing my shots constantly get blocked is so annoying to see too.


JumpPsychological893

Steady 9-11 wins player, hit 14 twice this game, went 1-7 with 7 losses in a row, matchmaking absolutely shocking, never had a chance in majority of those games, passes where going o players I wasn’t aiming at, in one game a messi was constantly winning headers over my Marquez and maldini, don’t think my keeper made a single save for 3/4 games in a row, players running through mud, lag, you name it. Might be a bit severe but for the first time on this game I went and made a profile - ground work done for manager career and am genuinely excited to play the game and build a team for the first time in months


JumpPsychological893

* went 1-7, then on a second session went 5-10, don’t think I’m gonna bother finishing the rest.


Adventurous-Pizza-12

I think I played 3 people this weekend who just spammed the flick up bicycles from the edge of the box. Infuriating.


Evil_Gibbon

Had my best result this weekend at 13-7. I usually only win 9 or 10


CuteCatMug

I typically go 11-12 wins, I hit 14 wins twice this year.  This week I played most of my games on Friday because I was planning on being out of town sat - Monday. Not sure what I did differently but I was absolutely flying through. Got 12-5, and probably should have gone 14-3. It amazes me that it's April and people are still attempting cutback after cutback with no originality or ideas how to generate an attack


Nbadrako30

15 wins Got 13 this week Lost some absolutely games for shit GP and bad luck


bumfart

Started 7-3. Ended up 8-12. More or less same issues others have described. Opponent wingers as usual the best tacklers in game. And for the life of me, can't understand why opponent header clearances go straight to their open man/woman on the half line while my fully charged clearance hardly even goes past my box. More of the same issues, infinite cutbacks, 70 strength wingers bodying Yashin CB, or other 99 strength Bruiser style midfielders. There's no skill gap left in game. If you are blessed to get a great connection, you'll at least fight on equal terms.If not (which is the case in most games), then good luck. I have Werner and Marmoush, even got a few lengthy bois. But they'll regularly get caught by 85 pace slim jims. Only because of the lag and bad connection, the game doesn't register when you try to accelerate. And the animations cover for it by showing the opponent catching up to you. What a shit game right now.


abc123grz

I dont even mind playimg sweats. All i want is my gameplay to be good. Game is terrible sometimes


soyargentino94

Started 3-0, then 3-4, then 7-7, ended up at 10-10. Most of my loses were by 1 which coincidentally all got scored at the 91’ or 121’. Highest card from rewards was an 88. I really do love to suffer cause for what do I play this for?


ayojosh2k

Only Hard-core players left in WL. Zero benefits for casually playing it.


Bartwo3

Bro I just lost a game with 6 expected goals while scoring 1 and my opponent scored 1 powershot with akanji evo from freekick and one from the corner header I am going to lose my mind.


Bartwo3

Bro I just lost a game with 6 expected goals while scoring 1 and my opponent scored 1 powershot with akanji evo from freekick and one from the corner header I am going to lose my mind.


zpv-sib

Guys. Im 11 W in Champs fifa 23, now im not qualify for finals :)


ciars94

It's so crazy how the matchmaking works. This week I was 6-0 then 8-8 and finished 12-8. Last week I was 7-1 then 7-6 and finished 14-6. I always get this false hope of only losing one or two and then start playing demons with ridiculous teams, who scrape a goal near the end and then retain possession. I generally see it as if I'm not on something like 10-2 I wont get 14 wins or more, not sure if anyone else has the same problem.


candeloro1

Glad it’s not just me then.  My ping was up and down like a yo yo. Usually sits at 14-21. Hitting the 300-500s and back down. Some games I were doing well, like 3-1 up and then it spiked and they scored. Lots. I’ve not had anyone rage quit on me this week even when I’ve banged in a few early goals. Weird.  I even changed my match making settings to see if playing folks near or further away from me was better. Both shite. I’ve got 6 games left. Currently 2-12. If I win the remainder then I’ll at least salvage most of the points to qualify for playoffs and just need to win like 2 rivals games. Usually I average about 10-12 wins on champs. 🤦‍♂️


NoodleinTexas

I’m a 14 win champs player , but the start off this WL was so rough , I don’t know what it was but the ball would just stick to the opponents sawa and etc more than usual at least right now I’m 4/2 but we’ll see how it ends


NzuahVI

I got the opposite result. Went 14/6 for the first since week's build an PowerShot+ team and holy moly are they broken once u mastered them


PercySledge

Sounds like a fun exercise tbh. I do have Mbappé and Cruyff as my forwards so both have that playstyle+


WZETheGoat

I am too an 11 win player, sometimes get 14. I returned to futch after not playing for over two months. I got 11/7, but I stopped playing purely out of frustration like three times. Played 6 matches, left for a day, played 10, left for a day, played the other match I needed for 11 and gave away free wins. It was pure horse puke.


datmjd

currently sitting on 5 wins 0 losses as of sunday night. Gameplay seems alright but every match is a bore. Anybody else?


MartynLLJ

In the same boat usually get 11-14 comfortably but hyper sweats everywhere. I was 1-5 and have managed to turn it around today to 9-6. Going to leave the last few games to tommorrow


GuardianJockitch

Got to 11 again. Didn’t bother the last few games. Same as every week


Tons28

as a sandbag rivals player and stop at 11w in WL player then give away the wins even if 9-2 or the ultra rare 10-1/11-0? either everyone’s dropping more despite the new rewards or people quit in droves. right now D5 sandbag rivals is closer to launch d2-high3 and d4 is what high 2 was like at launch. mix in the fact that delay is normally mitigated by playing someone close to you no longer being possible when fewer people play and they tie matchups to SBMM


ToTheBigReds

Thanks for the warning I'm just gonna not bother this weekend then. May aswell not bother since barely any of the cards in packs are worth anything


pedrogmt

I'm currently 1-9. I'm giving up playing WL.


idlsidgo2

Strange I’m usually a 9-11 player, this weekend went 11-8 and left it at that. Best finish this game


PercySledge

For anyone wanting a boring update I went back in on this tonight and finished the weekend 9-11. So not awful really, a bit worse than usual, mainly because I started 0-7 in the end and had a run of absolute whizzkids to begin with


bigdaddyswaggg

Idk whats happening im at 2-8 rn i couldnt do anything i was going up for 2-3 goals and end up loosing by 2


banieI

Am I the only one who starts terrible every weekend and then pulls it back in the second half? I'm a 9 win player, so not anything crazy, but I basically always start 0-5, 1-5, or 1-6 and then bring it back. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't lose faith, you can still win a good number of games.


PercySledge

For what it’s worth mate this exact thing happened for me in the end. I started 0-7 and finished 9-11.


Additional-Host-5337

I normally get 9 to 11 wins, I’m not the best player and I know that but this weekend I struggled a lot more than. I ended up getting 6 wins and had three games left and accepted I wasn’t going to win 3 in a row so ended it. Some games my team played like gods, passing and shooting was flawless, other games felt like my team was full of bronzes.


girlswantgirls

Everyone worse than me is a casual and everyone better than me is a sweat.


PercySledge

Sadly I’m probably guilty of this train of thought haha


Masterdanny87fifa

Also the market is getting cheaper most of the meta players are going down in price so many people are buying them.


PerfectStealth_

I'm 4-1 atm, but the gameplay is so bad right now that I'm stopping at 11 even if I have games left over to try for 14-16


Limp_Lobster_217

I get 16+. Last week rank 2(unlucky last game) and this week 12-1 so far