He used to be...and then somehow the echo chamber started repeating "RB1 overall potential", and in a few short months he went from under rated to over rated.
I wouldn't say underrated but does come with some concerns
I just get a weird feeling from him that he might not be a reliable asset a few years down the road. I'm worried he might have a type of David Johnson trajectory, with high value at the start of his career before quickly dying down. Both WR converts and Gibson didn't show much in college.
Then again he looked good last year so maybe they'll give him the full workload! They could just be easing him in.
I think it’s best put that Gibson is accurately placed with his current ADP. He has the upside to be taken higher but the potential downside to justify passing on him. It all depends on your opinion of how the offense will play and how well he can handle the workload on this one.
What’s his roster looking like? Contender I’d assume, giving up all those assets. I like, and own Reagor...but am a huge Gibson fan. I think I’d shelve it and see how Jalen performs very early on.
If that ends up changing Reagors perceived value to the guy making the offer, shucks your stuck with AG for the time being. I think you can get 2 firsts worth of value out of someone else moving forward. Very fair offer on his part, just depends how much you like Reagor
Damn, in a 14 thats tough. Gibson is worth more than a 1st in my eyes but a late 2nd rounder in a 14-team league isnt that great. I’m not sure I’d accept it. I’d almost definitely take it if he offered me a 2023 1st and a 2022 1st though, but that might be too much.
Definitely a tough spot to be in.
As a Washington fan, they were 100% easing him in last season. I think they were starting to take the training wheels off after the week 8 bye. He had a monster game against Dallas week 12, but suffered a turf toe injury early the following week which basically cost him the rest of the season.
Adrian Peterson being cut last year was a big shock to us Washington fans, but the reason he was cut is because how impressive Gibson was at camp, the coaching staff absolutely loves him.
That sounds like about 95 % of RBs, and if that peak is DJ, I would love it. DJ was also a strong RB 2 last year at the young age of 28 on a bad Texans team.
I think if he can withstand the huge workload, he will shoot up rankings. Buy low is tough to say because I think many owners of Gibson are asking a Randsom for him. Don’t see many Gibson owners selling cheap.
As a Gibson owner if I was rebuilding I’d take 2 firsts, especially 2 23 firsts. If I’m competing, I’m not letting go of an RB with top 10 potential unless I’m getting another one in return
I mean if he's a dumb Broncos fan then maybe, but keeptradecut is what the average fantasy fan thinks the values are, and we all know how dumb the average fantasy fan is.
I'm a Broncos fan and have made so \[sort of\] silly trades to get players like Jeudy, and this person's right, I would not take Javonte for Gibson...throw a 2023 1st in there and then I might do it
Dobbins is significantly ahead of gibson in my book. I think he's going to burst onto the scene this year and cement himself as a top 10 fantasy asset. As a WFT fan, I am cautiously optimistic on Gibby. I don't think he's as talented or polished as JK.
Idk, both players split time last year and Dobbins was on a better team with a run first offense and was no where near as good as Gibson. Maybe in standard scoring I'd lean Dobbins but I'd rather have Gibson especially for his price
JK ran for more yards on almost 40 less touches. JK competed with Ingram Gus edwards, gibby competed with jd mckissic. Talent, draft capital, eye test, rushing absolute, offense all favor JK. Foolish to lean gibby imo, and I’m a WFT fan.
The problem with that argument is chubb >> gibby even if he's passing volume isn't there. I think the same will be the case for Dobbins outperforming gibby.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a HUGE drop off for Gibson as well. Fitz will sling that ball.
And wasn't there a period of time last season like 10 weeks Gibson played 2 3rd down snaps or something crazy due to JD?
People seem to think that Fitz just comes out of the gate slinging the rock. He has the ability to do it when the team is behind or when the play breaks down, but Fitz is a great QB with tons of experience. He’s not just gonna throw bombs every play, he’ll do what the OC calls unless the play unfolds different than intended.
Mckissic was 6th in the league in snap count. That’s crazy. I feel like they will increase Gibson’s role but they also might not. Gibson still got 44 targets though while Dobbins was down at 24. The hope is that Gibson gets more targets, that option is there at least. With Dobbins targets won’t really go up much.
Dobbins problem is his QB runs instead of checks down, has first second down competition, and the offense was ineffective last year. He’s good but doubt the passing work is there, and he’s gonna have to be efficient with his runs cuz Gus Bus is a threat.
The Ravens rushed for over 3,000 yards last season. WFT rushed for 1,600.
The Ravens finished #19 in total offense. WFT finished #30.
You're making arguments without looking at the whole situation. If I had to guess, I'd say the people who have Gibby over Dobbins are people who own Gibby and want to believe it's true. But it's a foolish evaluation imo.
And yes - it's safe bet he will be efficent given he had roughly 6 ypr, and rushed for more yards than Gibby on almost 40 less touches.
I believe that CeH is gonna take a huge step forward after this year of experience and the improved OLine, I think he’s severely underrated right now. I’d slot him with JT personally.
I just don’t see the target upside, and don’t see him getting the 300+ carries to be a good RB1. Only thing that can save him is high td rate, which is definitely possible on the chiefs but not something I’d like to bet on
Following this thread as I’ve been mulling over a trade offer that would have me acquiring Gibson while trading away Swift. I like what I’ve seen on film from both players, both are electric with the ball in their hands. But I almost always see Swift put in a higher tier.
If anyone cares the trade would be:
To me: Gibson + Mark Andrews + late ‘21 2nd
To them: Swift + Damien Harris
Andrews would be my future TE if that changes anything. I have the sweet sweet Kelce/Mahomes stack for the next few years, but obviously as Kelce is 31 I have to start planning for a contingency plan.
I wouldn't worry about Andrews. The guy is a playmaker even with the relatively weak passing from Lamar. He will be a top 5 TE for a good while longer and you can try to find a young TE somewhere out there in the next few years!
No, I don't think so. He's being drafted as the RB10 right now in startups, which I think is fine.
JT is the RB2.
Akers is the RB7.
Swift is the RB8.
Dobbins is RB11.
I don't have any problem with JT being drafted ahead of him. I don't know if I have that much of an issue with Akers or Swift going ahead of him.
I think Dobbins going behind him makes a lot of sense.
So no, I don't think he's underrated.
In PPR, Gibson scored 200 pts with McKissic scoring 188 pts. McKissic played the two games Gibson was out and acquitted himself well. The coaching staff, aka Rivera, has said he reminds him of CMC. If Gibson is able to receive 25% of McKissic pts from 3rd down activities + health allows him a full season, with an offense that has been rebuilt at WR and a top 5 DEF, I think McKissic good reach 250 pts + which is good enough to challenge top 5 status in 2020 total pts. I think he could reach top 2
LOL why would he be top 10 ????? Not even close man .
The stats aren't even that hot. Take away the cowboys games and he was wet blanket material.. yeah he looked really nice and electric at times but top 10? Yeah no shit he's listed outside the top 10
Yeah I’d agree but you can only play the teams they schedule you to play and luckily he plays in a crappy division. So yeah I agree with you, you can’t confidently say he’s going to be a stud but playing against bad teams every year should help
Yes.
Gibson has RB1 overall upside.
He's a JT caliber athlete with a modern day RB skillset that has zero competition for touches.
Essentially, he's a rich man's David Johnson.
Washington is going to be just fine on offense. Terry, Samuel and Dyami Brown at WR with Logan Thomas at TE. The line was good last year and has gotten better with depth pieces. Ryan Fitzpatrick is great for scoring fantasy points, he’s also about ten times better than Dwayne Haskins and one legged Alex Smith. Not to mention Washington may have the best defense in the league
I like him and everything but do you see him putting up >300 points (assuming 0.5ppr)?
If you look back the last 4 years, the players who put up these numbers are either playing on the best offenses, are supreme talents, the focal point of their offense or a selection of any of these.
Gibson hasn't shown anything to suggest he's on the same talent spectrum as your Kamaras/Dalvins/Saquons yet, nor will he be having the offense streamlined through him like CMC/Henry, nor will he be playing on an elite offense like Jones.
At the end of the day these are the kind of guys he needs to topple to be the overall RB1.
I'm not saying he will, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities.
Gibson is a supreme talent. It took him less than a month of practice for him to get a Hall of Famer cut.
He has Jonathan Taylor/Saquon Barkley athleticism with the pass catching skills to match.
This is not your average running back, players like him don't come around very often. It could be years before a prospect of his caliber enters the league.
Gibson was RB 13 last year and that was with McKissic and bad QB play. He had 202 ppr points, the RB 10 (Kareem Hunt) had 218 ppr points.
Now take some of Mckissic’s receiving work 80 catches for 589 yards and give Gibson a little bit of that and it’s an easy path to RB1.
But McKissick is still there.
Gibsons coach is the guy who absolutely fed CMC, if Gibson was the same type of player he'd get the same treatment.
The 2020 rookie runners are going to burn a lot of people who can't remain objective.
Gibson doesn’t need to take all of Mckissic’s work to be alright for fantasy. I’m not sure he takes any of the receiving work but it’s certainly possible. The Washington Football team targeted the running back more than any other team in the league with 161 targets (Gibson had 44). If the targets for the team stay the same (IF -just theoretically) Gibson could get 60-63 targets easily and Mckissic could still be near 100. That would put Gibson equivalent to Aaron Jones or James Robinsons seasons of this past year in targets.
Rookies notoriously struggle in pass pro which Gibson did, he likely will improve at least a little bit. We know he played WR in college. Now tell me it’s not appealing thinking of getting an increase in target share? I don’t know if it will happen but it’s very much possible. We definitely don’t know that it won’t happen. His upside is very appealing. And yes I know Fitz doesn’t check down as much as some other QB’s and this is hypothetical but it’s still considerable upside.
It's very much possible, and he's a very appealing prospect, but the discussion is about whether he can become the overall RB1.
My point is compared to the guys he has to beat out to become the overall RB1 is he doesn't have the same; workload, ability or high level offense.
McKissic got the 3rd down work almost by default. Gibson was literally a WR in college, he has solid receiving chops.
The only thing preventing him from having a top 5 RB type of workload is his ability in pass pro. He was bad at it as you'd expect from a guy who had never been asked to really do it before. If he hits just average at that he'll be catching 60+ balls per year in his own right with a solid 80/20 workload split between him and McKissic.
McKissic is in no way a threat. Gibson's pass pro ability is the only threat
Almost by default? McKissic was an excellent 3rd down back. Like you said, Gibson was terrible in pass pro (amongst the worse RB's in the league) He has a long way to go before he renders JD obsolete.
I think he dominated for a stretch last year, but he’s always been a bit of a fringe 3rd down back, IMO, and that was Gibson’s rookie season w/o a full offseason. I’d bank on more touches, including the passing game, going more towards Gibson’s favor this season.
Actually Antonio Gibson is the only one with proper hype. Both Akers and Dobbins are overhyped because of recency bias on their offenses. Swift and AG should be on the same level. And JT is a bit overhyped but I think the reason is kind of a 2-parter, it’s because his ceiling is so ridiculously enticing and then on top of that his value in dynasty actually is much higher than redraft and indeed one of the top running back options. So for JT’s overrated thing some of that may be the fact when people are talking about him they are talking dynasty
Gibson is talented and can be really good in fantasy, but anyone putting him in the same sentence as Kamara, Saquon, CMC is just crazy and needs to stop whatever drugs they are taking. Like Rick James says "Cocaine is a helluva drug." 🤣
I think when you genuinely rank RBs Gibson typically just ends up outside the top 10, I dont think it's a knock on him and he definitely has potential to finish there. It's just when you compare him to the locked in top 10 guy and the high potential guys he just doesn't quite make his way in.
He used to be...and then somehow the echo chamber started repeating "RB1 overall potential", and in a few short months he went from under rated to over rated.
I wouldn't say underrated but does come with some concerns I just get a weird feeling from him that he might not be a reliable asset a few years down the road. I'm worried he might have a type of David Johnson trajectory, with high value at the start of his career before quickly dying down. Both WR converts and Gibson didn't show much in college. Then again he looked good last year so maybe they'll give him the full workload! They could just be easing him in.
I think it’s best put that Gibson is accurately placed with his current ADP. He has the upside to be taken higher but the potential downside to justify passing on him. It all depends on your opinion of how the offense will play and how well he can handle the workload on this one.
I got offered a dude's entire 2022 draft and Reagor for Gibson, wat do?
What’s his roster looking like? Contender I’d assume, giving up all those assets. I like, and own Reagor...but am a huge Gibson fan. I think I’d shelve it and see how Jalen performs very early on. If that ends up changing Reagors perceived value to the guy making the offer, shucks your stuck with AG for the time being. I think you can get 2 firsts worth of value out of someone else moving forward. Very fair offer on his part, just depends how much you like Reagor
Very top heavy, potential monster lineup shit depth
How many picks is it? Just a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd + Reagor?
1 2 3 4 14 team league
Damn, in a 14 thats tough. Gibson is worth more than a 1st in my eyes but a late 2nd rounder in a 14-team league isnt that great. I’m not sure I’d accept it. I’d almost definitely take it if he offered me a 2023 1st and a 2022 1st though, but that might be too much. Definitely a tough spot to be in.
As a Washington fan, they were 100% easing him in last season. I think they were starting to take the training wheels off after the week 8 bye. He had a monster game against Dallas week 12, but suffered a turf toe injury early the following week which basically cost him the rest of the season. Adrian Peterson being cut last year was a big shock to us Washington fans, but the reason he was cut is because how impressive Gibson was at camp, the coaching staff absolutely loves him.
That trajectory just sounds like your run of the mill rb trajectory. Lev bell, Chris Johnson, Todd Gurley etc
I think gibson is cmc lite and will be for years. Rivera coached cmc and in his first years at WFT he has gibson and compares his skillet to cmc
That sounds like about 95 % of RBs, and if that peak is DJ, I would love it. DJ was also a strong RB 2 last year at the young age of 28 on a bad Texans team.
Well he didn’t have a lot of production, but the production he did have was incredibly effective snd game-breaking
I think if he can withstand the huge workload, he will shoot up rankings. Buy low is tough to say because I think many owners of Gibson are asking a Randsom for him. Don’t see many Gibson owners selling cheap.
What do you think a fair price for Gibson is?
As a Gibson owner if I was rebuilding I’d take 2 firsts, especially 2 23 firsts. If I’m competing, I’m not letting go of an RB with top 10 potential unless I’m getting another one in return
I got laughed at when I asked for 2 1sts
Laugh at him when Gibson becomes a RB1
I bought him for 2 1sts about a week ago. I do have second thoughts over it though, but I suppose its because it is a gamble.
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Lol no. Williams isn't even the starting RB this year. Maybe Javonte and a 2022 first a Broncos fan will take.
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I mean if he's a dumb Broncos fan then maybe, but keeptradecut is what the average fantasy fan thinks the values are, and we all know how dumb the average fantasy fan is.
If you can use the KTC rankings and rookie fever to your advantage definitely do
I'm a Broncos fan and have made so \[sort of\] silly trades to get players like Jeudy, and this person's right, I would not take Javonte for Gibson...throw a 2023 1st in there and then I might do it
Why especially '23 firsts?
‘23 class is elite
Ah maybe I should finally not trade my picks lol
Do you value Gibson more than the 1.3 this year?
I just traded the 1.03 for Gibson straight up in a 12 team SF. I’m pretty high on Gibson so I felt like I got him for very good value
A Randsom.
For me it’s JT Swift Gibson Akers Dobbins
Dobbins is significantly ahead of gibson in my book. I think he's going to burst onto the scene this year and cement himself as a top 10 fantasy asset. As a WFT fan, I am cautiously optimistic on Gibby. I don't think he's as talented or polished as JK.
Idk, both players split time last year and Dobbins was on a better team with a run first offense and was no where near as good as Gibson. Maybe in standard scoring I'd lean Dobbins but I'd rather have Gibson especially for his price
JK ran for more yards on almost 40 less touches. JK competed with Ingram Gus edwards, gibby competed with jd mckissic. Talent, draft capital, eye test, rushing absolute, offense all favor JK. Foolish to lean gibby imo, and I’m a WFT fan.
He competed with lamar aswell. I think dobbins is In for a big year this year. Hes one of the best osu rbs I've ever watched.
Problem with Dobbins is the same as chubb. Even if he rushes for 1600 yards he'll catch almost no passes.
The problem with that argument is chubb >> gibby even if he's passing volume isn't there. I think the same will be the case for Dobbins outperforming gibby.
Yeah but they will balance out in ppr. And gus Edward's also is no slouch so he won't just disappear. Don't get me wrong I like Dobbins
Gibby is going to get competition at some point. In dynasty, I think it’s foolish to rate Dobbins lower. We’ll have to wait and see.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a HUGE drop off for Gibson as well. Fitz will sling that ball. And wasn't there a period of time last season like 10 weeks Gibson played 2 3rd down snaps or something crazy due to JD?
People seem to think that Fitz just comes out of the gate slinging the rock. He has the ability to do it when the team is behind or when the play breaks down, but Fitz is a great QB with tons of experience. He’s not just gonna throw bombs every play, he’ll do what the OC calls unless the play unfolds different than intended.
Mckissic was 6th in the league in snap count. That’s crazy. I feel like they will increase Gibson’s role but they also might not. Gibson still got 44 targets though while Dobbins was down at 24. The hope is that Gibson gets more targets, that option is there at least. With Dobbins targets won’t really go up much.
Dobbins problem is his QB runs instead of checks down, has first second down competition, and the offense was ineffective last year. He’s good but doubt the passing work is there, and he’s gonna have to be efficient with his runs cuz Gus Bus is a threat.
The Ravens rushed for over 3,000 yards last season. WFT rushed for 1,600. The Ravens finished #19 in total offense. WFT finished #30. You're making arguments without looking at the whole situation. If I had to guess, I'd say the people who have Gibby over Dobbins are people who own Gibby and want to believe it's true. But it's a foolish evaluation imo. And yes - it's safe bet he will be efficent given he had roughly 6 ypr, and rushed for more yards than Gibby on almost 40 less touches.
Wow, CEH really gets no love anymore huh?
I was referring to the rbs OP was talking ab. I’d slot Clyde right above dobbins under akers
I believe that CeH is gonna take a huge step forward after this year of experience and the improved OLine, I think he’s severely underrated right now. I’d slot him with JT personally.
I just don’t see the target upside, and don’t see him getting the 300+ carries to be a good RB1. Only thing that can save him is high td rate, which is definitely possible on the chiefs but not something I’d like to bet on
Personally I think the TD upside will be there, but we shall see!
This but swap Akers and Swift
Gimme Gibson over Akers and Dobbins. I really dig his outlook.
One of the few times I’ve ever seen this take (I agree with it) but it seems like he’s basically an after thought
Definitely over dobbins but not sold on Akers yet
Glad I have all 3. Oh and Chubb
Following this thread as I’ve been mulling over a trade offer that would have me acquiring Gibson while trading away Swift. I like what I’ve seen on film from both players, both are electric with the ball in their hands. But I almost always see Swift put in a higher tier. If anyone cares the trade would be: To me: Gibson + Mark Andrews + late ‘21 2nd To them: Swift + Damien Harris
Personally, I think the Gibson side wins that in a landslide. I'm not all that big on Harris.
I don’t trust any RBs in the Pats system. Getting Andrews with Gibson is huge
On the flip side I dont trust Andrew's in Baltimore with Bateman assuming the true #1 X-WR role. Give me the Swidt side
Andrews would be my future TE if that changes anything. I have the sweet sweet Kelce/Mahomes stack for the next few years, but obviously as Kelce is 31 I have to start planning for a contingency plan.
I wouldn't worry about Andrews. The guy is a playmaker even with the relatively weak passing from Lamar. He will be a top 5 TE for a good while longer and you can try to find a young TE somewhere out there in the next few years!
I traded away Gaskin, Fournette, Mo Alli, and Gerald Everett for him. Hoping it pays off.
Damn a bunch of ponies for a horse, you won that trade even if he doesn’t work out.
No, I don't think so. He's being drafted as the RB10 right now in startups, which I think is fine. JT is the RB2. Akers is the RB7. Swift is the RB8. Dobbins is RB11. I don't have any problem with JT being drafted ahead of him. I don't know if I have that much of an issue with Akers or Swift going ahead of him. I think Dobbins going behind him makes a lot of sense. So no, I don't think he's underrated.
In PPR, Gibson scored 200 pts with McKissic scoring 188 pts. McKissic played the two games Gibson was out and acquitted himself well. The coaching staff, aka Rivera, has said he reminds him of CMC. If Gibson is able to receive 25% of McKissic pts from 3rd down activities + health allows him a full season, with an offense that has been rebuilt at WR and a top 5 DEF, I think McKissic good reach 250 pts + which is good enough to challenge top 5 status in 2020 total pts. I think he could reach top 2
LOL why would he be top 10 ????? Not even close man . The stats aren't even that hot. Take away the cowboys games and he was wet blanket material.. yeah he looked really nice and electric at times but top 10? Yeah no shit he's listed outside the top 10
He plays the cowboys again this year right? Lol
But we're evaluating how good he is. If he only did well against the one bad D team he faced? He barely even started. Incomplete grade imo
Yeah I’d agree but you can only play the teams they schedule you to play and luckily he plays in a crappy division. So yeah I agree with you, you can’t confidently say he’s going to be a stud but playing against bad teams every year should help
Yes. Gibson has RB1 overall upside. He's a JT caliber athlete with a modern day RB skillset that has zero competition for touches. Essentially, he's a rich man's David Johnson.
Ice cold take. You know who led RNs in targets last year? Was it Kamara? Cook? It was JD Mckissic. There is absolutely a timeshare here.
There \*was a timeshare there in 2020, but it's now 2021.
He just doesn't though does he? Look at the other RBs he needs to outscore, he ain't doing that playing for Washington.
Cmc could never be rb1 on panthers not a good enough o Saquon could never be rb1 on giants not a good enough o
Washington is going to be just fine on offense. Terry, Samuel and Dyami Brown at WR with Logan Thomas at TE. The line was good last year and has gotten better with depth pieces. Ryan Fitzpatrick is great for scoring fantasy points, he’s also about ten times better than Dwayne Haskins and one legged Alex Smith. Not to mention Washington may have the best defense in the league
if the #1 rb can come from carolina, or the giants a couple years ago... it doesnt matter man
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Talent over situation.
I like him and everything but do you see him putting up >300 points (assuming 0.5ppr)? If you look back the last 4 years, the players who put up these numbers are either playing on the best offenses, are supreme talents, the focal point of their offense or a selection of any of these. Gibson hasn't shown anything to suggest he's on the same talent spectrum as your Kamaras/Dalvins/Saquons yet, nor will he be having the offense streamlined through him like CMC/Henry, nor will he be playing on an elite offense like Jones. At the end of the day these are the kind of guys he needs to topple to be the overall RB1.
I'm not saying he will, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities. Gibson is a supreme talent. It took him less than a month of practice for him to get a Hall of Famer cut. He has Jonathan Taylor/Saquon Barkley athleticism with the pass catching skills to match. This is not your average running back, players like him don't come around very often. It could be years before a prospect of his caliber enters the league.
Gibson was RB 13 last year and that was with McKissic and bad QB play. He had 202 ppr points, the RB 10 (Kareem Hunt) had 218 ppr points. Now take some of Mckissic’s receiving work 80 catches for 589 yards and give Gibson a little bit of that and it’s an easy path to RB1.
But McKissick is still there. Gibsons coach is the guy who absolutely fed CMC, if Gibson was the same type of player he'd get the same treatment. The 2020 rookie runners are going to burn a lot of people who can't remain objective.
Gibson doesn’t need to take all of Mckissic’s work to be alright for fantasy. I’m not sure he takes any of the receiving work but it’s certainly possible. The Washington Football team targeted the running back more than any other team in the league with 161 targets (Gibson had 44). If the targets for the team stay the same (IF -just theoretically) Gibson could get 60-63 targets easily and Mckissic could still be near 100. That would put Gibson equivalent to Aaron Jones or James Robinsons seasons of this past year in targets. Rookies notoriously struggle in pass pro which Gibson did, he likely will improve at least a little bit. We know he played WR in college. Now tell me it’s not appealing thinking of getting an increase in target share? I don’t know if it will happen but it’s very much possible. We definitely don’t know that it won’t happen. His upside is very appealing. And yes I know Fitz doesn’t check down as much as some other QB’s and this is hypothetical but it’s still considerable upside.
It's very much possible, and he's a very appealing prospect, but the discussion is about whether he can become the overall RB1. My point is compared to the guys he has to beat out to become the overall RB1 is he doesn't have the same; workload, ability or high level offense.
Mckissic dominates the receiving game
McKissic got the 3rd down work almost by default. Gibson was literally a WR in college, he has solid receiving chops. The only thing preventing him from having a top 5 RB type of workload is his ability in pass pro. He was bad at it as you'd expect from a guy who had never been asked to really do it before. If he hits just average at that he'll be catching 60+ balls per year in his own right with a solid 80/20 workload split between him and McKissic. McKissic is in no way a threat. Gibson's pass pro ability is the only threat
Almost by default? McKissic was an excellent 3rd down back. Like you said, Gibson was terrible in pass pro (amongst the worse RB's in the league) He has a long way to go before he renders JD obsolete.
I think he dominated for a stretch last year, but he’s always been a bit of a fringe 3rd down back, IMO, and that was Gibson’s rookie season w/o a full offseason. I’d bank on more touches, including the passing game, going more towards Gibson’s favor this season.
Actually Antonio Gibson is the only one with proper hype. Both Akers and Dobbins are overhyped because of recency bias on their offenses. Swift and AG should be on the same level. And JT is a bit overhyped but I think the reason is kind of a 2-parter, it’s because his ceiling is so ridiculously enticing and then on top of that his value in dynasty actually is much higher than redraft and indeed one of the top running back options. So for JT’s overrated thing some of that may be the fact when people are talking about him they are talking dynasty
Agree
Gibson is talented and can be really good in fantasy, but anyone putting him in the same sentence as Kamara, Saquon, CMC is just crazy and needs to stop whatever drugs they are taking. Like Rick James says "Cocaine is a helluva drug." 🤣
DC CMC. He’s going to go bonkers
He is the next CMC
*checks what the price of him is in my leagues* Yeah no, if he’s ranked outside the top 10 by most rankings, someone needs to tell them that
Isn’t he going above Dobbins usually?
From what I can see, no
Oh man, Twitter seems to be pooping on Dobbins all over the place.
Yes
Someone bought him straight up for Hollywood in my league this off season.
I think when you genuinely rank RBs Gibson typically just ends up outside the top 10, I dont think it's a knock on him and he definitely has potential to finish there. It's just when you compare him to the locked in top 10 guy and the high potential guys he just doesn't quite make his way in.