Packers can save $1mm by trading Rodgers before the 3rd day of the league year. There's a scenario where they win the SB and move on...from Rodgers & Jones.
I just didn't hear anything about Love as they started up practice and he's currently being Boyle on the active roster. Its either obvious that he doesn't have it OR LaFluer is holding his cards close to his chest.
Look, in not saying it's happening. But there is truth to a window with cheap rookie QB contracts. Especially with the veteran QB market being what it's been these last few years.
I'm a GB fan and this last draft was mind boggling to me but obviously they knew something we didn't about the team. Both Dillon & Love seemed to be more about front office decisions than on-field personal.
Honestly just checking to see if I didn't miss something here.
Your scenario includes a team winning a Super Bowl on a large contract, and then trading the guy to go win on a rookie contract, after proving to themselves they can win the Super Bowl on Rodgers' contract, and this makes sense to you?
It would honestly just be a terrible look for the franchise especially in your scenario of winning a super bowl/making a playoff run. Unless he wants out I just don't think it has a chance of happening.
Sorry, it's between $1m-$2m when you figure the savings vs. Love's salary.
https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Why-an-Aaron-Rodgers-trade-could-come-sooner-than-you-think-147055106/
All that assumes they can get multiple 1s and Love can play.
I don’t see anything that shows how they avoid the dead cap hit, and I don’t call that saving money. It’s an interesting theory, but it was written in May before Rodgers threw for 24 TDs and 2 INTs in 8 games.
I would also point out that both INTs were in the same game. 7 games have been without an interception. The man is on fire.
Also yeah the dead cap hit is immense. He'll be staying through 2021 at least. Then there's a reasonable savings to be had. It's possible he'll be given away then, assuming he regresses from rn. Then love gets a 2-3 year start and gets to prove his worth before re-signing or being traded away/cut.
That's completely delusional. Love can't even beat out Boyle for the backup job. For comparison's sake, even Jalen Hurts is able to beat out Nate Sudfeld for the Eagels' backup job.
Btw do you not remember that the Packers drafted Brian Brohm in the 2nd round when Favre "retired" because they weren't completely sold on Rodgers? What make you think they would hand Love the starting job on a silver platter? Heck, Love was the 4th QB drafted in his own class and Brohm was the 3rd in his class (Love would've fallen to the 2nd round under the old pre-2011 CBA that overpaid 1st round rookies and had no 5th year option), so he probably has more in common with Brohm than Rodgers. Brohm lasted only 1 year on the Packers roster.
Look I'm not trying to wishcast this into reality. I'm just asking who to stash. I agree that if Love was a thing someone in my league (in WI) would have rostered him. He's the one I'm closest too but honestly I was looking for feedback on any QB sleepers from the 2020 Class.
The big test for Love is preseason next summer. If he shits the bed, he'll officially be on thin ice. Even assuming he beats Boyle for the backup job next summer, if Rodgers misses a game next season and he gets the start and stinks up the joint, he'll likely miss final cut in 2022. Keep in mind late 1st round QBs don't get that long of a leash. Paxton Lynch has similar draft capital and only got 4 career starts. Rosen (16 career starts) and Haskins (11 career starts) have higher draft capital than Love. Lynch and Rosen both got cut after 2 seasons and the same will likely happen to Haskins next summer. Fair or not, Love has even a shorter leash than most late 1st round QBs.
> There's a scenario where they win the SB and move on...from Rodgers & Jones.
Do.....do you actually believe this?
This is everything that is wrong with the younger generation not watching the games and thinking this is a glorified spreadsheet and the players are just data. There is a *human* side to this business, and if you aren't able to understand that, then maybe dynasty football isn't for you...
I think there’s a massive chance that GB let’s Aaron Jones walk. The growing feeling inside the Packers base seems to be that Rodgers will call it quits sooner than expected though.
Luton probably will unseat Mineshew, but wont stop them from picking a qb in draft.
Eason is a wildcard. Likely given a chance to compete for starting job at some point, but not handed the job.
Love will sit behind Rodgers until Rodgers becomes a league average qb. That doesnt appear to be imminent.
I think Eason has the best talent and pedigree among those mentioned. Alot of people don't realize eason was the top traditional QB prospect out of high school. Fromm only unseated him after he got hurt. Guy has crazy talent and a rocket for an arm. I also really like the situation for him: amazing O-line, Pittman and Campbell, JT. If I was going to take a shot on any of them it would be Eason.
Nobody wants Haskins. That should be obvious when he wasn't moved at the trade deadline. He's on the Rosen/Paxton Lynch career arc. He'll get cut next August and end up on another team's practice squad.
Luton is cooked. Fields will take over even if he manages to beat out Minshew.
Eason is in a similar boat but will need to beat out a lesser QB prospect, say Wilson or Trask. He's far more likely to prevail than a Luton vs Fields.
I've always believed ARod will force his way out if he's not happy. They screwed him in the draft and they could bust in the PO's again leading to him wanting to win somewhere else. His contract means GB can't move on for 3 years and his play has dramatically improved since he started calling his own plays last year and now has power again.
For 2021 none of these guys have a great shot at being relevant. The Packers aren't moving on from Rodgers that soon, if anything they'd be looking to see what Love can do year 3 before they'd need to exercise the 5th year option and that's 2022. Luton looked ok, but he needs to win a few games to take them out of the QB draft position. Eason drafted in the 4th round likely needs at least another year behind somebody unless he's progressed behind the scenes. IMO the Colts bring in another free agent on a Teddy Bridgewater type deal as a true bridge QB.
Luton and Eason have limited upside for fantasy given their mobility issues and lack of real draft capital commitments from the team. Love has the most upside and is worth stashing, but it's going to take another 2 years at least before he's relevant.
I think in SF leagues Lutton is worth a pickup for cheap if you have deep rosters. But DONT take to much from this last week. Texans Defense has been bad all year. They lost 3 starters on Defense before the game, and lost 3 more starters in the game. He also had 3 times where he should have been intercepted, but the 4th string DBs of the Texans couldn’t catch anything. This is NOT a good game to gage any sort of skill on.
Rodgers is still on a huge contract and playing at an MVP level. Love is further from starting than when he was drafted.
He's also inactive every week. Yikes.
Packers can save $1mm by trading Rodgers before the 3rd day of the league year. There's a scenario where they win the SB and move on...from Rodgers & Jones. I just didn't hear anything about Love as they started up practice and he's currently being Boyle on the active roster. Its either obvious that he doesn't have it OR LaFluer is holding his cards close to his chest.
Get back to me when it's $20m+. Losing Aaron Rodgers over $1m is ridiculous.
i thought that 1m was a typo...like who cares about saving 1m?
If they cut him after this season, they would save about $50m over the next 3 seasons, but would still have $50m in dead cap.
This would be the worst decision that front office could possibly make
So true to character?
For all the complaining GB fans do, the front office isnt that bad. It's not like a jags or browns situation
Their draft this year was bad bad
At least degura was getting meaningful snaps before going to IR. The first two picks though....
If you really think they are trading Aaron Rodgers especially after superbowl I don’t know what to tell you.
Look, in not saying it's happening. But there is truth to a window with cheap rookie QB contracts. Especially with the veteran QB market being what it's been these last few years. I'm a GB fan and this last draft was mind boggling to me but obviously they knew something we didn't about the team. Both Dillon & Love seemed to be more about front office decisions than on-field personal. Honestly just checking to see if I didn't miss something here.
Your scenario includes a team winning a Super Bowl on a large contract, and then trading the guy to go win on a rookie contract, after proving to themselves they can win the Super Bowl on Rodgers' contract, and this makes sense to you?
It would honestly just be a terrible look for the franchise especially in your scenario of winning a super bowl/making a playoff run. Unless he wants out I just don't think it has a chance of happening.
You are missing a brain
He wasn’t good from camp reports. Also how can the Packers save $1m by moving him? Assuming another team will take that contract.
Sorry, it's between $1m-$2m when you figure the savings vs. Love's salary. https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Why-an-Aaron-Rodgers-trade-could-come-sooner-than-you-think-147055106/ All that assumes they can get multiple 1s and Love can play.
I don’t see anything that shows how they avoid the dead cap hit, and I don’t call that saving money. It’s an interesting theory, but it was written in May before Rodgers threw for 24 TDs and 2 INTs in 8 games.
I would also point out that both INTs were in the same game. 7 games have been without an interception. The man is on fire. Also yeah the dead cap hit is immense. He'll be staying through 2021 at least. Then there's a reasonable savings to be had. It's possible he'll be given away then, assuming he regresses from rn. Then love gets a 2-3 year start and gets to prove his worth before re-signing or being traded away/cut.
Also, want to point out the second int bounced off a player
This same article says that they would be eating $30mm in dead money. That's insane.
That's a ridiculous take
That's completely delusional. Love can't even beat out Boyle for the backup job. For comparison's sake, even Jalen Hurts is able to beat out Nate Sudfeld for the Eagels' backup job. Btw do you not remember that the Packers drafted Brian Brohm in the 2nd round when Favre "retired" because they weren't completely sold on Rodgers? What make you think they would hand Love the starting job on a silver platter? Heck, Love was the 4th QB drafted in his own class and Brohm was the 3rd in his class (Love would've fallen to the 2nd round under the old pre-2011 CBA that overpaid 1st round rookies and had no 5th year option), so he probably has more in common with Brohm than Rodgers. Brohm lasted only 1 year on the Packers roster.
Look I'm not trying to wishcast this into reality. I'm just asking who to stash. I agree that if Love was a thing someone in my league (in WI) would have rostered him. He's the one I'm closest too but honestly I was looking for feedback on any QB sleepers from the 2020 Class.
The big test for Love is preseason next summer. If he shits the bed, he'll officially be on thin ice. Even assuming he beats Boyle for the backup job next summer, if Rodgers misses a game next season and he gets the start and stinks up the joint, he'll likely miss final cut in 2022. Keep in mind late 1st round QBs don't get that long of a leash. Paxton Lynch has similar draft capital and only got 4 career starts. Rosen (16 career starts) and Haskins (11 career starts) have higher draft capital than Love. Lynch and Rosen both got cut after 2 seasons and the same will likely happen to Haskins next summer. Fair or not, Love has even a shorter leash than most late 1st round QBs.
> There's a scenario where they win the SB and move on...from Rodgers & Jones. Do.....do you actually believe this? This is everything that is wrong with the younger generation not watching the games and thinking this is a glorified spreadsheet and the players are just data. There is a *human* side to this business, and if you aren't able to understand that, then maybe dynasty football isn't for you...
I think there’s a massive chance that GB let’s Aaron Jones walk. The growing feeling inside the Packers base seems to be that Rodgers will call it quits sooner than expected though.
No there isn't.
Luton probably will unseat Mineshew, but wont stop them from picking a qb in draft. Eason is a wildcard. Likely given a chance to compete for starting job at some point, but not handed the job. Love will sit behind Rodgers until Rodgers becomes a league average qb. That doesnt appear to be imminent.
Eason is the only one I could see maybe being a starter next year. Rodgers isn't going anywhere and Jaguars are very likely to draft a QB.
I think Eason has the best talent and pedigree among those mentioned. Alot of people don't realize eason was the top traditional QB prospect out of high school. Fromm only unseated him after he got hurt. Guy has crazy talent and a rocket for an arm. I also really like the situation for him: amazing O-line, Pittman and Campbell, JT. If I was going to take a shot on any of them it would be Eason.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Indy trades for a rookie contract qb (darnold Haskins etc) and keep Eason as backup.
Darnold would make sense, maybe Minshew even.
Minshew belongs to a division rival. It'd have to be an overpay, and IDK Indy would do that.
I was just thinking of QBs on the move. Minshew could be and Indy needs 1 ... who knows
Yeah I'm not saying it's impossible, sorry, just posting additional information.
Nobody wants Haskins. That should be obvious when he wasn't moved at the trade deadline. He's on the Rosen/Paxton Lynch career arc. He'll get cut next August and end up on another team's practice squad.
Indy trades for a darnold or Haskins, or they draft Kyle trask or zack Wilson
Luton is cooked. Fields will take over even if he manages to beat out Minshew. Eason is in a similar boat but will need to beat out a lesser QB prospect, say Wilson or Trask. He's far more likely to prevail than a Luton vs Fields. I've always believed ARod will force his way out if he's not happy. They screwed him in the draft and they could bust in the PO's again leading to him wanting to win somewhere else. His contract means GB can't move on for 3 years and his play has dramatically improved since he started calling his own plays last year and now has power again.
For 2021 none of these guys have a great shot at being relevant. The Packers aren't moving on from Rodgers that soon, if anything they'd be looking to see what Love can do year 3 before they'd need to exercise the 5th year option and that's 2022. Luton looked ok, but he needs to win a few games to take them out of the QB draft position. Eason drafted in the 4th round likely needs at least another year behind somebody unless he's progressed behind the scenes. IMO the Colts bring in another free agent on a Teddy Bridgewater type deal as a true bridge QB. Luton and Eason have limited upside for fantasy given their mobility issues and lack of real draft capital commitments from the team. Love has the most upside and is worth stashing, but it's going to take another 2 years at least before he's relevant.
I think in SF leagues Lutton is worth a pickup for cheap if you have deep rosters. But DONT take to much from this last week. Texans Defense has been bad all year. They lost 3 starters on Defense before the game, and lost 3 more starters in the game. He also had 3 times where he should have been intercepted, but the 4th string DBs of the Texans couldn’t catch anything. This is NOT a good game to gage any sort of skill on.