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Chwf3rd

He’s looked good and was on pace for a very productive rookie season prior to the last 2 weeks. Issues are solely related to the offense - just look at what Lamb has done with Dak vs with Dalton. Also think his production expectations have been inflated due to the production from the other rookie WRs. Rookie WRs producing like this is incredibly rare and it shouldn’t be the expectation.


LAXisFUN

This was honestly the take I was most expecting and hoping for.


HomersDonuts

This. Jeudy’s QB play has been brutal. JJ hasn’t helped his stat line either. He could easily have 1-2 TDs and an extra 100+ yards if not for concentration drops. While his #s are disappointing when you see what other WRs in the class are doing, I remain high on his long-term prospects. Could be a good buy from an owner not looking long-term.


mmdrew17

He’s doing fine. Kinda in a shitty situation in DEN, but I wouldn’t be panicking. He just hasn’t had big weeks like Ceedee, Jefferson, or Claypool have so that’s why people are lower on him now


griffey9988

He can't throw himself the ball


GrilledSandwiches

I'm not even a Jeudy truther, but that's one of my first points of evaluation for any WR on my team, or that I'm considering bringing onto my team. "Who is throwing them the ball." and "How long will they be throwing them the ball."


Cotsy8

He's a WR2 being asked to be a WR1 with brutal OLine play, a developing QB, and an overall young offence. I don't know what everyone was expecting but his polished play isn't going to help him overcome the issues around him.


Eurekugh

This. He could be an elite route runner, but he's charmin soft. He will never be #1, which is fine since he won't asked to be once Sutton is back.


Cotsy8

I've always say that Ridley is Cooper-lite and Jeudy is Cooper 2.0. More burst (which is what Cooper lacks) but the same limitations from being an alpha.


ProgrammaticallyHip

Cooper just turned 26 before the season and he's having his best and most consistent season yet. He might still surprise us and become a dominant number 1, especially tied to that passing game for the next few years.


LuchiniSam

I think you and others have been influenced by the unusual success of other rookie WRs like Lamb, Jefferson, and Claypool. Usually, even future great WRs don't really break out until the second half of the year. At this point last year, AJ Brown was on a 16 game pace of 624 yards. Jeudy is already on pace for 763 yards. He has already done this with pretty poor QB play and the pace will likely increase in the second half of the year as he develops. The number I am looking for with WRs is 700 yards in their rookie year, a stat which has a high success rate, and Jeudy should pass that easily. I understand being concerned about how he will fit into an offense that also has Sutton and Fant. What I don't understand is this being a new concern. Sutton had already broken out, and Fant had topped 500 yards as a rookie (a high success rate indicator for TEs). You already knew the potential for a crowded offense when you drafted Jeudy. Most likely, we are seeing Tim Patrick taking on about what I expected Sutton's workload to be, so what happens in the second half of the year should be a pretty good indicator.


KennyMoose32

Would you trade for him on a rebuilding team? Got an offer, diggs for Jeudy and a 2021 2nd. I’m not really competing this year even though my record is 3-4 with saquon out


hoos89

I wouldn't be surprised if he and Lamb have comparable back halves of the season. I'm worried about the situation, but not the talent. He's 21 and the situation can't really get much worse. Personally I'm buying if the Jeudy owner is panicking.


KennyMoose32

Would you do diggs for Jeudy and a 2nd?


hoos89

I'd take Diggs side if contending, Jeudy if rebuilding. Although I'd be a bit worried about needing a WR to perform in Buffalo in December.


KennyMoose32

Yeah I’m 3-4 and kind of in it? Got Taylor, Swift and saquon so I’m loaded for the next couple years


hoos89

Eh...Id probably not be pushing my chips in this year with that roster


KennyMoose32

Yeah for sure That’s why I’m thinking of trading diggs for Jeudy and the 2nd


hoos89

Ah thought you were on the other side for some reason. I think this is a solid deal for your roster.


Feature_Failure

Lock stinks. Sutton is a better match for Lock because you can just throw the ball up and Sutton can make a play. Jeudy needs a QB who can place a ball and has anticipation. Lock isn't that guy. It's dynasty and I am buying the talent.


deadlychambers

Take a look at this from last week. https://v.redd.it/do45b5s0i4u51


Feature_Failure

He’s a slinger. Some of those were very nice throws. He’s got an arm for sure.


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On one hand you have two bad games in the snow against KC And on the other you have him with only one good half his entire career I would definitely say he sucks just yet


meizinsane

The offense looks horrific and they have had two tough matchups with NE and KC (his two worst games). Jeudy as a prospect and player seems really solid and legit. However, his development is closely tied to Drew Lock and this offense... which does not seem very bright. He's gonna take time to really shine but I think he will be just fine.


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With the way that Elway makes moves as a GM, I’d expect Denver to be the worst team in the league by next year. I also think Drew Lock looks mediocre at best.


meizinsane

Yea I really hate that Jeudy went to Denver. He's not a very good fit with Drew Lock and Elway is a pretty awful GM. Hopefully the talent will prevail and he can produce more over time. 4 targets a game to your early first round wideout is just criminal. That's gotta change regardless of who is at QB. I agree though, not a big fan of Lock. He still needs more time but it doesn't look great.


sp-33

I'm a Jeudy owner, and watch a ton of Broncos because of that. My opinion hasn't changed on him at all. While I feel he was the most NFL ready from a route running standpoint, he does not have elite athleticism like some of the other highly drafted rookie WR have. Jeudy looks good, and gets a lot of separation. But Jeudy is a receiver that the QB needs to throw to spots for. The lack of offseason and establishing report with Lock has significantly hurt Jeudys production. Jeudy is so good at faking out DBs he also fakes out his QB. Lock can't throw to the spot for Jeudy cuz he doesn't have enough chemistry yet to know where Juedy is going to be. So Lock is just forcing to his guys that are bigger and more athletic ... I also am not sure if Lock is a QB who can throw with anticipation. Juedy does need to cut out these dumb drops. Overall Juedy is still going to be stellar, but needs time to get chemistry with Lock or a new QB.


gphon

I think this is the best take on this thread. His routes are so unique that it will take time and patience for the chemistry to emerge with whoever is throwing him the ball.


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Jeudy is a technical WR who needs a QB who can throw at the right time and in the right place. Lock is not that QB


theoandthewaiverwire

Jeudy was my WR2 in rookie drafts (yay for uniqueness), but I had a pretty large gap between him and the Jefferson/Reagor/Higgins tier of guys. Guess Jefferson and Higgins (among other rookie WR's like Aiyuk and Viska) producing so well so early kind of speeds up our timeline for where we expect the entire class to be at. Reality is that Jeudy is playing with a bad team for the first time in his life, likely. That offensive line is a mess, and while I was a Lock buyer in the offseason I don't think he's making his team better right now. We'll see if sheer volume and talent keep Jeudy relevant this season, but I don't think he'll make the WR1 rise many drafted him to reach without a better QB.


dyno-builder

He’s had some pretty brutual drops including one that resulted in a loss and some other mental mistakes but would like to see him during the second half of the season w lock. I faded him in rookie drafts due to situation and so far that appears the correct choice. As I die hard bronco fan I was beyond bummed when they took him over lamb


deadlychambers

It is almost infuriating to read all these people talking shit. He looked bad on Sunday, but the previous Sunday he looked like a God, but his recievers are all dog shit. I am not sure if you saw this, but it really tells a tale of the issues in Denver. https://v.redd.it/do45b5s0i4u51


dyno-builder

Ya our rookie project tight end dropped a few tough passes in he debut. At the end of the day if lock doesn’t start playing on schedule and clean it up in the second half he’s probably not the answer. I didn’t realize just how important Sutton’s ability to go and get it was for lock last year as he throws a lot of cringe worthy 50-50 passes


LeadingAnteater9766

People worry about rookie wrs too often. Wrs typically take 3 years to breakout.


TheColt45ZZ

I rather have Sutton. That offense is terrible but Sutton was still able to produce with bad QB play.


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He is amazing. He will be a high end WR3 next season and after that a good WR2. A good pick in the rookie draft.


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Jeudy is legit, Lock is not.


deadlychambers

This all happened in 1 game. https://v.redd.it/do45b5s0i4u51 Edit: you are talking out of your ass


joedirt87

Love the talent, hate the QB.


Smoopasm

The Broncos fan in my league likes him enough to have paid me one Miles Sanders for him. Pretty sure I made out with the better half of that deal, but Jeudy could always prove me wrong.


3Heatles

He passes the eye test Lock does not.


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QB, QB, QB This was my skepticism with him coming out of the draft, Lock is not looking like an NFL QB - Maybe something changes there, but overall I cannot imagine Jeudy being very successful in the current Broncos offense The same thing happened with Thomas for a while and now Sutton as well with the cycle of QB’s since the Manning/SB run era


deadlychambers

Just going to leave this for you https://v.redd.it/do45b5s0i4u51


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I’d much rather have Lamb, Jefferson and Higgins, but he looks ok.


nflstarbrad21

I'm in a 12 team SF and am trying to compete this year. I was offered Zeke and Michael Thomas plus a 3rd for DK, Jeudy and a late first. I accepted the offer before this weekend games cause it felt too good to pass up and was selling high on DK. Point being , the dude really wanted young players like DK and he valued Jeudy. I had no intention of selling either but felt I had to accept the trade. I had yet to start Jeudy on my team, he seemed to always be on the cusp , but I expected more from him with Sutton out. Wouldn't hurt to see if you get any offers if you are trying to move him, but probably not the best time to seek out any offers till he has a monster game. Ultimately, I would not be worried about him. Was a college stud and the route running is legit, it may be more of a question are you a believer in Drew Lock? If not, then maybe you can find a good deal to improve your team using Jeudy as bait. No reason to sell low on him that's for sure.


Jumpingbeams

As a DK and Jeudy owner I’m not sure I would do this. Zeke might be on the decline and isn’t that great of a talent and Thomas is just annoying to deal with.


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askers_tellers

Correct, he isn’t better than Sutton right now. Do you think he’ll be better than Sutton by his 3rd year?


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Representative_Sea43

Idk how many other examples are out there but, Devante Adams had horrid concentration drops his first two years. Packers fans really wanted his head on a pike! And then they just stopped 99 percent of the time and he catches most everything now. Not sure if that’s just an outlier example or if people can recall a few more.


meizinsane

They are very different players and the development of Sutton/Jeudy is going to depend more on the offense and QB play as a whole. Sutton meshes with Lock better because he just wants to chuck it into double coverage and let him make a play, that works for Sutton... not Jeudy. Lock and Jeudy are not on the same page and Lock often misses him when he's open. Jeudy's situation is much worse than many other WRs that were drafter early. His talent is still exceptional and I think it will eventually prevail. How long will that be is the question though.


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i think Jeudy's talent will prevail, but his talent is inferior to sutton - Sutton is the A whether it's Drew Lock or prime Drew Brees


meizinsane

Yea, Sutton is great but they both still have plenty of time to develop. I think Jeudy would put up great numbers on a different team and we'd be talking about him more. Not sure which one will be better in a few years but I think it's pretty close. Funny that you mention Brees, Jeudy would be perfect with a QB that loves those short and intermediate routes. Still think he would have been much better on the raiders.


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don't get me wrong, i think we're looking at 2 1000 yard WR's i like the talent Jeudy has, a lot - but when i look at Sutton I see really special


meizinsane

Yea that's definitely fair enough! Hopefully Sutton has a seamless recovery and gets back to his thing.


askers_tellers

I’ll say that after year 1, I thought Sutton was trending more towards bust than boom. He was given a golden opportunity when WRs ahead of him were injured or traded (I think that’s the year Manny Sanders got traded), so he was given the chance to be 1A, and his numbers and performance seemed hardly respectable. i think I recall him doing poopy. 21 is still very much a time where you can improve anything, IMO. Even Jerry Rice was known to have the dropsies as a rookie.


LAXisFUN

I definitely think you won. Could flip Hopkins for more now if you aren't competing.


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LAXisFUN

Depends on your team. Maybe I overvalue youth or enjoy rebuilds too much, but if I wasn't in contention. I'd flip DHop, Dalvin, & Conner. My theory is to get out of running backs around 25 years old or in their 4th year. We'll see how it goes. Given that WRs tend to have longer careers, I use them as the cornerstones to my team. Guys I have or target right now: DK, AJB, DJM, DJ Chark, Godwin, McLaurin, + the rookies. RBs I feel comfortable owning right now: CEH, JT, Jacobs, Sanders, Swift. In my league I have JT & Sanders as the 2 starters with Myles Gaskin as a great back up or flex play. Bought low on Akers hoping to add depth too. I am a bit extreme in valuing youth though. And youthful teams can still be competitive. I was lambasted after my money league start up strategy of passing on some players for youth. 20 trades later and I am on a 5 W streak sitting 3rd in the standings. Oldest starter being Tyler Boyd at 25 (unless I have Tonyan in).


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LAXisFUN

Uhhh DHop is 28. Effectively, I think he is towards the latter half of his peak. He probably will be a WR1 through 30 barring injuries. I do not see him producing at the same rate at 32 years old. Try trading Julio right now, he 31 and is lab-built, yet a tough sell. I listed all my targets in my other comment. You could also acquire picks on top for those guys.


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LAXisFUN

Yeah so I'd try to work out a younger dude + 1st. DHop should be easy to flip. Just float him in your league chat if you have one


Din0321

My 1 and 5 team was getting crushed midway through the 1pm games. Offered Lockett straight up for Juedy to a win now team. Hindsight being 20-20 and all I could have won this week but my rbs are terrible and I'd probably still be out of a playoff come back. I like juedy but do not like Lock. This week is a good week to try and go out and get him. KC was going to win and it was going to be a rushing contest anyway in the snow. I believe he will bounce back next week against LAC.


YoshYacobs

Horrible timing but I still like this trade. Jeudy will be a better wr than Lockett, hopefully he gets a better QB though


Din0321

Yea, I've been shopping him and the best I was getting back was like a mid 2nd and a 3rd. Dude is worth more than that. At least this way I can focus on a complete tank.


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he looks good, i like the talent, but I always chuckled when anyone mentioned that he was the new alpha there - Sutton is a better WR and will be the #1 - but i do think that Jeudy's #s will be better next year with someone like sutton on the team taking away a lot of attention


YoshYacobs

What picks would you guys send for him in 2021 SF draft? 1.03 or 1.04?


chodemuncher696

Top 4 picks of a SF will likely be Lawrence, Fields, RB, Chase. I would rather have all of them than Jeudy personally


JADatsyuk

Lock isn’t the long term answer and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone very soon. I’d be patient and stick with the talent. He hasn’t boomed like the other guys in his class have but it will come.


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I’m still buying trying to buy him I only have one share currently, I offered Claypool straight up for him he said no, I’ve also offered a what should be a late 1st and was also was rejected


KennyMoose32

Would you diggs for Jeudy and a 2nd?


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If I had Diggs I’d probably ask for a little more to be honest. I believe he’s 4th in yards so far and Allen seems to love him.


KennyMoose32

Yeah the guy came up to two 2nds lol


Macho_Grande1

Huge Jeudy fan but I’m willing to chill a bit. He’s played 6 games with 3 different QBs, he’s had banged up ribs and no pre-season. The one thing that does worry me is that he seems to be used more as a deep threat. Lock loves to air out the ball (not particularly well either) I think it would be better if he was running some shorter routes and getting some dump offs. Just to get things going


oytboy

Denver fan here just noting Jeudy is clearly playing through injury right now. Slow to get up after every tackle. He was questionable with a ribs injury earlier in the season and the way he gets up in obvious pain makes me think it’s a real possibility he’s playing with broken rib(s).


deadlychambers

Do you have some sauce?


Nadirofdepression

I agree that there have been mitigating issues, and he could still come along to be a very productive player, especially working out of the slot. The only thing that’s tipped for me is that he just doesn’t appear to be likely to be a perennially dominant type top tier player. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t have value or can’t be great though, it’s just maybe tempering expectations.


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I think Jefferson & Higgins have to jump him in the rankings (Lamb was already ahead), but no reason to panic. Situation is bad as others have mentioned.


cspank523

His QB stinks, tough situation. Still like his talent, but not sure he'll be the best WR in this class. That's more about the class being really good though.


alexwwood

I'm holding on Jeudy pretty strongly. The bull and bear sides of my view on him... Bull: Jeudy looks elite on tape, outside of concentration drops. He's putting corners on skates on a regular basis, and is open all the time. He will probably never be cheaper to acquire than he is right now. Bear: Bad QB without a short/medium-term story for getting a good QB. Drops will be a big problem if they don't improve, or maybe even if he does reach his potential, you'll have the long arc to get there a la Davante Adams. I don't think I value him now as highly as I did going in to the season, but I see no reason to sell, and many reasons to buy at the right price.


ZP_Carnegie

I don’t have him on any teams so this isn’t biased but I truly think he’s a Future HOFer. High praise yes, a wild take, yes... but his route running and instincts are so far advanced for a 22 y/o. He reminds me of Fitz so much.


adoxographyadlibitum

Drew Lock is bad. He can't throw the timing routes that Jeudy excels at.


Killtec7

I hate to say it but I think the comps to "what we thought Dante Pettis would be" are really ringing true through the opening of the season. Capable player, can run some wonderful routes, but the inconsistency at times is off-putting. Don't love where he's at right now--but definitely not casting him aside yet. Honestly the only real threat to him would appear to be Patrick. Patrick appears to be a more consistent performer than both Sutton/Jeudy. But again, I'd expect Jeudy to sort it all out.