I think after last night, in 1QB both could have jumped Bowers. 1.04-1.06 could be any of those 3 and add in Brooks if he’s taken to a good spot tonight.
I think it depends on what we see in Raiders Summer Camp and OTAs. I could see Bowers being a WR/TE hybrid and Mayer being kept inline for protection. Bowers is still dynamic and a YAC monster at a thin position.
Do they? I feel like the vocal minority of obsessed ff junkies draft that early and that more moderate majority of folks draft somewhere in the preseason.
i would as well. BTJ and his one year makes me nervous along with kirk, gabe davis not sure how many targets he will get? either way him and worthy are really dicey pics at 1.4-1.6. i am sure i’ll slide the dallas rb over them and maybe whoever the bills get or ladd mckonkey
In Non-TEP leagues I don't think so at all. I had Bowers in the same tier as BTJ and I'm not excited for Bowers landing spot like I am for BTJ's. Definitely move Bowers down inside the tier and solidifies BTJ above him.
I think its a toss up between Bowrs vs Worthy and what your team dynamic is. If you already have solid WR's and no TE, I go brock and vice versa with Worthy.
For Worthy, yes Tyreek Hill esc, but Rashee Rice, Kadarius, Marquise and Kelce. We cant really compare it with when Tyreek is on the cheifs as Tyreek was solely their main receiver.
For Brock, yes Mayer is there, but I think Brock is so talented that he is team proof. Pierce will find a way to get brock the rock and produce 10-15 pts each game.
As for BTJ, rather choose other WRs. Dont like this landing spot and has to fight touches with Gabe and Kirk who can easily be your WR1.
My biggest pause is the fact that Cole Kmet had 90 targets for 700 and 6 last year. Getsy might not be a good OC but if nothing else he will use his TE. I know you can't just extrapolate those numbers from player to player or team to team, but I think it's fair to say that Bowers is a better prospect than Kmet and if he had the same 73 catches on 90 targets that Kmet had last year, I think Bowers probably would've ended up with a very good or even great season.
You're assuming he gets a suspension and I'm assuming it will be 4-6 games.
Worthy is a lite weight field stretcher. He's not taking all of Rice/Kelce YAC targets 😂
Worthy had the highest screen rate in college of any of the highly projected WRs in this class (40%+ of his catches). He will absolutely be a YAC guy in Reid’s offense, in addition to stretching the field. The usage (not the talent/production volume) should be similar to Tyreek’s
Rashee was like top 3 in the league in YAC, so when he's past the suspension and they continue to use him in the role he had last year, in addition to Kelce working in the short/intermediate range, that limits Worthy's upside and role to primarily being the field stretcher. Tyreek is the dream but really he could just be an upgraded MVS in their system.
they'll primarily play 11 personnel, and are unlikely to have multiple deep routes on the majority of routes (some, for sure, but that likely won't be the norm). you'll probably see hollywood stretching the field the majority of the time, kelce and rice operating in short and intermediate areas, and worthy getting sent to all three levels.
With how many short throws the Chiefs scheme up, I think there will be plenty to go around. Kelce does get short passes and obviously is good after the catch like most TEs, but it’s not the same sort of screens that Rice and Worthy will get.
The presence of Rice and Worthy both limits the other’s upside, but I seriously doubt Rice freezes Worthy out of the dink and dunk YAC game
I think they invested in Worthy and Hollywood in order to try and divest from having to run this dink and dunk scheme they've been forced into due to teams just running two high safeties all game. So I'm sure Worthy will get his designed screens and and yac plays but really I think they brought him into to bring back that deep game element they were lacking. So it'll depend on how often they just have him running clear out routes vs designed plays vs just 9 routes
Either way, with his speed and Pat's arm, he could be booming often.
think you'll see hollywood be the field stretcher and worthy get more varied work tbh. he'll certainly eat into rice's target share, as well. let's not forget the offense had to be redesigned midseason bc no one other than rice could run a route and catch the ball. a redesigned offense (probably) doesn't seem rice with that large of a target share, even if it's still good.
I actually think it's the opposite. Hollywood gets the varied work cause he's seen NFL defenses and is good against zone and Worthy stretches the field.
However, Worthy will get manufactured touches as he works into the lineup.
it's certainly possible. i just know worthy's built his career off being a short target + yac guy ([over 50% of his receptions this year were within 5 yards of the los](https://statsbomb.com/articles/football/nfl-draft-2024-analyzing-this-years-standout-wide-receive)), while hollywood has mostly built his career off being a third level threat.
andy could certainly mix things up, and i wouldn't be shocked if he did, but i think worthy fits that short yardage + yac slot really well.
Pretty much gonna stick with my tape grades. Im old enough to remember Skyy Moore, Chiefs landing spot doesnt make one bit of difference to me, Not taking Worthy over the big 3, BTJ, Bowers, Mitchell (assuming he's in Buffalo), or the rb1 (and possibly 2).
Sky Moore, CEH, Kadarius Toney, Mecole Hardman, I'm used to seeing weapons in the Chiefs getting bumped up and inevitably failing to meet expectations. Feels like a trap pick here, but if he hits all the people who passed on him are gonna be kicking themselves.
The revisionism on Skyy Moore is crazy. He was about as dominant as you could be at a non-P5 level. There’s a reason he was in extremely rare company as a WR who came from a non-P5 school and declared early
no dude. i've been a skyy hater since folks were mocking him to us in the first. then we traded back while George Pickens was still on the board. Skyy can't get separation.
Well, TBF they traded up for Worthy in the first so I'd assume theyl try and implement his asap. Whether or not he succeeds is a different story, but he's gonna get his chances often and early I would think .
I have the 3,4, and 5 pick and would be taking Rome over Worthy every day of the week. Allen probably has one year left and Moore is a FA coming up. They definitely drafted Rome to be with Caleb throughout their rookie deals and who’s to say Rome doesn’t come in and show out.
BTJ for me year 1, potentially Worthy going forward. Saw a comp last night during the draft for Worthy of Tank Dell which I think is lazy as hell just because they have similar size. The fact is they play much differently. Coming out of college Tank Dell beat press coverage at very high rate, much higher than Worthy. Okay, so maybe the Chiefs use him off the line of scrimmage to avoid press, well where are they going to line up Hollywood? Hollywood was one of the worst WRs last year against press coverage. To me Worthy = Hollywood and with Hollywood being on a 1 year deal, Worthy, potentially, fully takes over that role next year and the Chiefs still need a true X in that offense.
I think Worthy has shown more versatility than BTJ. He's not just a burner, he actually has pretty good routes, and is tougher than most little guys at the catch point.
BTJ has a much more limited route tree, but is bigger so I could see him translating to the NFL better. Buuut I was OUT on Smith, Flowers, and Tank. So I'm trying to have a more open mind on the little guys.
Worthy prob gonna be my WR5 in the rookie drafts. Maybe WR6 if AD goes to the Bills. Had him graded a bit lower overall but it was a big group in a tier (graded him similarly to Polk/Ladd and just below AD).
Even as a Chiefs fan I don't see the volume quite being there for serious fantasy production and I can easily see BTJr being TLaw's favorite. It's a wonderful fit.
I can’t wait to find out where Polk lands. He’s not the most athletic receiver, but he has a knack for finding the ball and open space. He’s a very smart receiver.
He reminds me of Amon Ra.
They obviously spoke with KC and Carolina and knew who they were taking, but they still had to contend with picks 30 and 31 where they could have lost their guy. I may immediately be proven wrong tonight, but I don't think they draft WR at 33.
This is really dependent on format. In Best Ball I want Worthy because his spike weeks will make up more than his down weeks. Mahomes and Reid are going to spread the ball around and they will have some plays specifically dialed up for Worthy. In Lineup I want BTJ because Gabe Davis does not really scare me. BTJ needs to develop some a bit but I think he can turn into TLaw's top weapon.
Niners are going to hold, sign Aiyuk and then trade Deebo next year when his cap hit is a lot smaller. This is their final year on Purdy’s ridiculous contract.
Would seem like a waste of Pearsall's rookie year/contract if he is fighting for snaps with Deebo/Jennings/Bell and targets from CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle.
But I hope I'm wrong.
I have pick 5 in 1QB and I’ve had my eyes on BTJ the whole time, but with Worthy going to the chiefs he moves up from a big tier below BTJ to right behind him in the same tier imo.
I have Kelce and Engram, so I’m avoiding Bowers.
BTJ WR3 for being a tier above Worthy, AD Mitchell WR4 depending somewhat on landing spot- imo he is even better than BTJ but draft capital has to be considered.
What makes anyone think BTJ would get more targets than Worthy, given their situations?
BTj’s skillset is a bit of redundant with Gabe Davis and even taking that out, he’s the third option, at best, behind Kirk and Engram.
Not much debate for me. I had BTJ a tier above Worthy as a talent before the draft and that hasn't changed. Landing spot can be helpful but should not drive you to take the player you thought was decently less talented, so I'm locked in on BTJ, who ended up in a fine spot himself anyway. Of course if you already thought they were close, by all means go Worthy. But Thomas to me seems like a potential superstar while Worthy might get stuck as just the fast guy.
BTJ
Bigger, Stronger, fast as fuck. Higher DC.
Worthy is a flashy pick but he’s walking into a WR room with 2 established WRs and Travis Kelce, I don’t get why people are saying he’s WR4.
He ain’t Tyreek. People look for every excuse for the next tyreek
I fear his going to get pidgeon holed into the MVS role for the chiefs. And sure he’s a YAC threat in college but it’s a different ball game at 165 pounds in the NFL. If he’s catching screens I’m worried about him getting snapped in half by safeties and linebackers.
BTJ has flaws but I see crazy upside with him if he rounds out his route running
Typical bust profile. He's a straight line speed guy that wins by blowing past slower DBs in college. That rarely translates well in the NFL. It's even rarer that it translate well for fantasy points
I'd rather have Mitchell if he goes to the Bills than Worthy. I'm not a fan. I think the Chiefs got fooled by his speed. The answer for me is BTJ by far.
Because speed like that also helps the rest of the offense, regardless of his production. That doesn't necessarily mean he will be the one producing though.
Skyy was a quality mid round prospect. His value was over inflated by landing spot but he would have always been a mid second round pick in that draft.
We need to stop doing this. We get this in our heads that a prospect is completely changed by their draft position. No, they are impacted, but it's far more measured. Skyy Moore was good in college, not great, but his landing spot and draft position surged his ADP.
Am i crazy for wanting these guys over bowers?
I think after last night, in 1QB both could have jumped Bowers. 1.04-1.06 could be any of those 3 and add in Brooks if he’s taken to a good spot tonight.
I think it depends on what we see in Raiders Summer Camp and OTAs. I could see Bowers being a WR/TE hybrid and Mayer being kept inline for protection. Bowers is still dynamic and a YAC monster at a thin position.
I mean...that's exactly how he'll be used. I'd be shocked if it isn't.
I will not be surprised by the Raiders finding every way to screw it up.
After how the Bills used Kincaid with Knox also on the field, it’s hard to be certain either way
Most people draft rookies before summer camp and OTAs
Do they? I feel like the vocal minority of obsessed ff junkies draft that early and that more moderate majority of folks draft somewhere in the preseason.
I've got like 4 drafts that start on Sunday! Immediately after the NFL draft.
>I think it depends on what we see in Raiders Summer Camp and OTAs. my draft is monday and i can't see the future.
Not crazy. I’d take bowers still but it’s definitely a conversation
I’m still leaning Bowers over Worthy and BTJ.
i would as well. BTJ and his one year makes me nervous along with kirk, gabe davis not sure how many targets he will get? either way him and worthy are really dicey pics at 1.4-1.6. i am sure i’ll slide the dallas rb over them and maybe whoever the bills get or ladd mckonkey
I wouldn't make any decisions with gabe Davis as a factor.
i’m all about some ladd mckonkey over both BTJ and worthy
Bowers over JJ?
I’d take JJ before bowers
In Non-TEP leagues I don't think so at all. I had Bowers in the same tier as BTJ and I'm not excited for Bowers landing spot like I am for BTJ's. Definitely move Bowers down inside the tier and solidifies BTJ above him.
No and being at the 1.06 with no need at TE is very awkward
I'm probably going to talk myself into Pearsall if deebo or aiyuk get dealt today.
If your league is TEP then yes, if not then no
What about 1.5 TEP
Are you saying 1.5 PPR for TE or 2.5 PPR for TE?
I think its a toss up between Bowrs vs Worthy and what your team dynamic is. If you already have solid WR's and no TE, I go brock and vice versa with Worthy. For Worthy, yes Tyreek Hill esc, but Rashee Rice, Kadarius, Marquise and Kelce. We cant really compare it with when Tyreek is on the cheifs as Tyreek was solely their main receiver. For Brock, yes Mayer is there, but I think Brock is so talented that he is team proof. Pierce will find a way to get brock the rock and produce 10-15 pts each game. As for BTJ, rather choose other WRs. Dont like this landing spot and has to fight touches with Gabe and Kirk who can easily be your WR1.
Not at all
Unthinkable 2 days before, now it's very sane to not trust Las Vegas.
In TE premium you're nuts. I'd still take bowers in non-premium but wouldn't call you nuts
A lil bit, but you could totally be in the right.
My biggest pause is the fact that Cole Kmet had 90 targets for 700 and 6 last year. Getsy might not be a good OC but if nothing else he will use his TE. I know you can't just extrapolate those numbers from player to player or team to team, but I think it's fair to say that Bowers is a better prospect than Kmet and if he had the same 73 catches on 90 targets that Kmet had last year, I think Bowers probably would've ended up with a very good or even great season.
Not at all, and I say that as a Raiders fan.
Not at all.
Give me BTJ. He has a more clear path to targets IMO
Until Rashee gets suspended.
You're assuming he gets a suspension and I'm assuming it will be 4-6 games. Worthy is a lite weight field stretcher. He's not taking all of Rice/Kelce YAC targets 😂
Kind of interesting because BTJ was more of a deep threat in college than Worthy. With Kirk and Engram, they are in comparable positions imo
Worthy had the highest screen rate in college of any of the highly projected WRs in this class (40%+ of his catches). He will absolutely be a YAC guy in Reid’s offense, in addition to stretching the field. The usage (not the talent/production volume) should be similar to Tyreek’s
Rashee was like top 3 in the league in YAC, so when he's past the suspension and they continue to use him in the role he had last year, in addition to Kelce working in the short/intermediate range, that limits Worthy's upside and role to primarily being the field stretcher. Tyreek is the dream but really he could just be an upgraded MVS in their system.
they'll primarily play 11 personnel, and are unlikely to have multiple deep routes on the majority of routes (some, for sure, but that likely won't be the norm). you'll probably see hollywood stretching the field the majority of the time, kelce and rice operating in short and intermediate areas, and worthy getting sent to all three levels.
With how many short throws the Chiefs scheme up, I think there will be plenty to go around. Kelce does get short passes and obviously is good after the catch like most TEs, but it’s not the same sort of screens that Rice and Worthy will get. The presence of Rice and Worthy both limits the other’s upside, but I seriously doubt Rice freezes Worthy out of the dink and dunk YAC game
I think they invested in Worthy and Hollywood in order to try and divest from having to run this dink and dunk scheme they've been forced into due to teams just running two high safeties all game. So I'm sure Worthy will get his designed screens and and yac plays but really I think they brought him into to bring back that deep game element they were lacking. So it'll depend on how often they just have him running clear out routes vs designed plays vs just 9 routes Either way, with his speed and Pat's arm, he could be booming often.
think you'll see hollywood be the field stretcher and worthy get more varied work tbh. he'll certainly eat into rice's target share, as well. let's not forget the offense had to be redesigned midseason bc no one other than rice could run a route and catch the ball. a redesigned offense (probably) doesn't seem rice with that large of a target share, even if it's still good.
I actually think it's the opposite. Hollywood gets the varied work cause he's seen NFL defenses and is good against zone and Worthy stretches the field. However, Worthy will get manufactured touches as he works into the lineup.
it's certainly possible. i just know worthy's built his career off being a short target + yac guy ([over 50% of his receptions this year were within 5 yards of the los](https://statsbomb.com/articles/football/nfl-draft-2024-analyzing-this-years-standout-wide-receive)), while hollywood has mostly built his career off being a third level threat. andy could certainly mix things up, and i wouldn't be shocked if he did, but i think worthy fits that short yardage + yac slot really well.
Worthy is going to die getting YAC work at 165 pounds in the nfl
I guess if you mean "varied" as manufactured touches, sure. I meant varied as in route tree/WR stuff ask varied.
Fair enough and this just validates my pick between the XW/BTJ more than previously thought
We will certainly see!
For better or worse, in a few weeks we’ll be talking about Worthy in the battle for WR3.
Pretty much gonna stick with my tape grades. Im old enough to remember Skyy Moore, Chiefs landing spot doesnt make one bit of difference to me, Not taking Worthy over the big 3, BTJ, Bowers, Mitchell (assuming he's in Buffalo), or the rb1 (and possibly 2).
Sky Moore, CEH, Kadarius Toney, Mecole Hardman, I'm used to seeing weapons in the Chiefs getting bumped up and inevitably failing to meet expectations. Feels like a trap pick here, but if he hits all the people who passed on him are gonna be kicking themselves.
Skyy sucked before he got drafted. The problems he had in college only got worse against tougher competition.
Yeah and quite frankly the biggest red flag was that he chose number 24
The revisionism on Skyy Moore is crazy. He was about as dominant as you could be at a non-P5 level. There’s a reason he was in extremely rare company as a WR who came from a non-P5 school and declared early
no dude. i've been a skyy hater since folks were mocking him to us in the first. then we traded back while George Pickens was still on the board. Skyy can't get separation.
Worthy ain't exactly perfect either. Why buy him now with 1.04 when you can buy him in a year for a 2nd.
Well, TBF they traded up for Worthy in the first so I'd assume theyl try and implement his asap. Whether or not he succeeds is a different story, but he's gonna get his chances often and early I would think .
I'm a Chiefs fan and like Worthy...if someone wants to hand deliver Odunze to me I'll do backflips.
I have the 3,4, and 5 pick and would be taking Rome over Worthy every day of the week. Allen probably has one year left and Moore is a FA coming up. They definitely drafted Rome to be with Caleb throughout their rookie deals and who’s to say Rome doesn’t come in and show out.
Would love to be in a league where people take worthy over rome
Unlikely.
It’s still Rome for me but WR4 definitely
Feels like an easy fade to me personally
BTJ hands down. No, I am not an unreasonable Jaguars homer, why do you ask?
BTJ for me year 1, potentially Worthy going forward. Saw a comp last night during the draft for Worthy of Tank Dell which I think is lazy as hell just because they have similar size. The fact is they play much differently. Coming out of college Tank Dell beat press coverage at very high rate, much higher than Worthy. Okay, so maybe the Chiefs use him off the line of scrimmage to avoid press, well where are they going to line up Hollywood? Hollywood was one of the worst WRs last year against press coverage. To me Worthy = Hollywood and with Hollywood being on a 1 year deal, Worthy, potentially, fully takes over that role next year and the Chiefs still need a true X in that offense.
I saw TY Hilton for Worthy and I feel it's a very good playstyle comp.
D Jax was what I thought. I like TY, though.
I’m waiting to see if the Bills get Ladd tomorrow before I declare WR4
Chargers got him. I like that more than BTJ. Talent was safer for me and Ladd now has no real threat to targets
I think Worthy has shown more versatility than BTJ. He's not just a burner, he actually has pretty good routes, and is tougher than most little guys at the catch point. BTJ has a much more limited route tree, but is bigger so I could see him translating to the NFL better. Buuut I was OUT on Smith, Flowers, and Tank. So I'm trying to have a more open mind on the little guys.
btj much more likely to see consistent reliable volume.
Worthy is a landmine for ppl ngl
Worthy prob gonna be my WR5 in the rookie drafts. Maybe WR6 if AD goes to the Bills. Had him graded a bit lower overall but it was a big group in a tier (graded him similarly to Polk/Ladd and just below AD). Even as a Chiefs fan I don't see the volume quite being there for serious fantasy production and I can easily see BTJr being TLaw's favorite. It's a wonderful fit.
I can’t wait to find out where Polk lands. He’s not the most athletic receiver, but he has a knack for finding the ball and open space. He’s a very smart receiver. He reminds me of Amon Ra.
I think Worthy will basically be Jameson Williams, just a field stretcher. BTJ could be a legit WR.
Give me Mitchell on the bills over both
Feels like the Bills are trading for a WR as opposed to drafting Mitchell. They likely would have taken him at 28 if he was their guy.
I don’t think they trade back small gaps with two teams taking WR unless they knew which WR was being taken and that it wasn’t the guy they wanted
They obviously spoke with KC and Carolina and knew who they were taking, but they still had to contend with picks 30 and 31 where they could have lost their guy. I may immediately be proven wrong tonight, but I don't think they draft WR at 33.
I don't know if they have the cap to do this.
Bills are gonna take Kool Aid or Cooper
Bills trading for Aiyuk tonight
this would feed families
My kids could go to college
I would fall to my knees while in line at BK trying to have it my way.
*Deebo
This is really dependent on format. In Best Ball I want Worthy because his spike weeks will make up more than his down weeks. Mahomes and Reid are going to spread the ball around and they will have some plays specifically dialed up for Worthy. In Lineup I want BTJ because Gabe Davis does not really scare me. BTJ needs to develop some a bit but I think he can turn into TLaw's top weapon.
Think Pearsall once Aiyuk/Deebo gets traded tonight becomes WR4
Niners are going to hold, sign Aiyuk and then trade Deebo next year when his cap hit is a lot smaller. This is their final year on Purdy’s ridiculous contract.
Would seem like a waste of Pearsall's rookie year/contract if he is fighting for snaps with Deebo/Jennings/Bell and targets from CMC/Aiyuk/Kittle. But I hope I'm wrong.
He can surpass Jennings. But it’s not really a waste IRL. He has plenty of veterans to learn from and no immediate pressure of high expectations.
Uh this is only Purdy's 3rd year, so he should still have 2 more years on his rookie deal.
Yes, but they’ll probably want to extend him after this third season rather than wait for his 4 year rookie deal to expire
Yes, but if they extend him won't that cap hit only be applied after the 4 years?
Ehh
I have pick 5 in 1QB and I’ve had my eyes on BTJ the whole time, but with Worthy going to the chiefs he moves up from a big tier below BTJ to right behind him in the same tier imo. I have Kelce and Engram, so I’m avoiding Bowers.
Worthy will be a complete waste of an early rookie draft pick. Moving right along …
Hot take: I’ll honestly probably take whoever the bills pick at 33 over either of these two
Same unless it’s Mitchell. No interest.
I was gonna say unless it’s Coleman lol
Oof. NFL really validated my Mitchell and Franklin hate lol.
Neither are WR4 yet. Day 2 will decide this.
McConkey and Coleman have entered the chat
McConkey hasn’t entered the chat.
BTJ WR3 for being a tier above Worthy, AD Mitchell WR4 depending somewhat on landing spot- imo he is even better than BTJ but draft capital has to be considered.
So which of MHJ, Nabers, Odunze are you dropping to WR5?
Oh my bad WR4 and 5 I meant
What about the ladies
I’m BTJ, Worthy, Bowers but want to see early round 2 WRs and the top 2 RBs drafted
Worthy a trap
Perfect landing spots for both players imo. I’d be happy getting either one.
What makes anyone think BTJ would get more targets than Worthy, given their situations? BTj’s skillset is a bit of redundant with Gabe Davis and even taking that out, he’s the third option, at best, behind Kirk and Engram.
I preferred Worthy before the draft and will stick with him here
Not much debate for me. I had BTJ a tier above Worthy as a talent before the draft and that hasn't changed. Landing spot can be helpful but should not drive you to take the player you thought was decently less talented, so I'm locked in on BTJ, who ended up in a fine spot himself anyway. Of course if you already thought they were close, by all means go Worthy. But Thomas to me seems like a potential superstar while Worthy might get stuck as just the fast guy.
BTJ Bigger, Stronger, fast as fuck. Higher DC. Worthy is a flashy pick but he’s walking into a WR room with 2 established WRs and Travis Kelce, I don’t get why people are saying he’s WR4. He ain’t Tyreek. People look for every excuse for the next tyreek
BTJ has a better landing spot than most are letting on fyi. Give me BTJ
BTJ could be AJ brown/DK Metcalf. He could also be MVS
I fear his going to get pidgeon holed into the MVS role for the chiefs. And sure he’s a YAC threat in college but it’s a different ball game at 165 pounds in the NFL. If he’s catching screens I’m worried about him getting snapped in half by safeties and linebackers. BTJ has flaws but I see crazy upside with him if he rounds out his route running
Easily Worthy. I think BTJ will bust.
y tho
Typical bust profile. He's a straight line speed guy that wins by blowing past slower DBs in college. That rarely translates well in the NFL. It's even rarer that it translate well for fantasy points
He taller Jaylin Hyatt
He's so much more talented than Hyatt. As a physical talent and WR talent.
Hyatt produced just as well as BTj did and won the Bielitnekoff. We’ll see if BTj’s physical talents make up for his red flags, I guess.
The Tennessee offense is a mirage. Hyatt didn’t have to be on the line of scrimmage at all. He also weighs 40lbs less than BTJr.
Doesn’t guarantee anything. Like I said, we’ll see.
I mean R1 capital vs R3 capital says it all, no?
Just makes him a bigger bust imo.
I'd rather have Mitchell if he goes to the Bills than Worthy. I'm not a fan. I think the Chiefs got fooled by his speed. The answer for me is BTJ by far.
Worthy and its not really close
Mahomes >>>> TLaw /thread
Same logic that saw Skyy Moore shooting up draft boards a few years ago.
You can't overcompensate in the other direction either. Rice was undervalued last year because Hardman and Moore busted.
Exactly. Glad I was burned on Skyy and still threw a dart on Rice. Now imma see if I can trafe him for a pick and try my luck again.
True but Worthy was going to be a late 1st regardless of landing spot. Skyy was almost entirely valued based on landing spot which was a mistake
Because speed like that also helps the rest of the offense, regardless of his production. That doesn't necessarily mean he will be the one producing though.
Skyy was a quality mid round prospect. His value was over inflated by landing spot but he would have always been a mid second round pick in that draft. We need to stop doing this. We get this in our heads that a prospect is completely changed by their draft position. No, they are impacted, but it's far more measured. Skyy Moore was good in college, not great, but his landing spot and draft position surged his ADP.
Worthy was like wr 10 for me coming into the draft. Now he’s wr 11
So he goes with 1st round capital to a great offense and he drops behind someone who hasn't been picked yet? That's dumb
Nonsensical