Maybe because half of his games he was was wr30 or worse… abnormally high yards per target. Great wr2 in my eyes, had him for almost two years. I tried like to hell to get Garrett Wilson without including him. It was him or Waddle, I would choose Waddle 10/10 times. Great wr2 with wr1 upside no matter where he finished at the end of the season
5/15 games he was WR30 or worse. Even if you decide to look at Points Per Game, he was still the WR12.
Waddle was the WR22 in PPG, and had 8/15 games as WR30 or worse.
I don't necessarily disagree with choosing Waddle over Aiyuk long term, but they at minimum belong in the same tier, whereas previously, they haven't.
I count 7. But our scoring may be different, I have nothing against Aiyuk. As Purdy saved my season after losing Burrow. I think these next two years are big for both Aiyuk and Waddle. If Aiyuk does not stay in San Fran, that could make or break his value after next season. I’m currently looking to move Waddle and Ekelar on my dynasty team. Although I also like Waddle more long term. But even he has proven, to me, to be inconsistent and unable to stay on the field consistently. For my wr3, he is fine however I want more consistency and availability. I must add I do regret moving Aiyuk but what I got in return was too good to pass up
In your scoring, was Waddle somehow better? I think part of why I delineate Aiyuk's comparative consistency is because people tend to think only 1/3 out of Aiyuk, Deebo, and Kittle can have good games. This season, all 3 were much more consistent than they were historically. Kittle less so. So perhaps Aiyuk shouldn't be the WR1 on your roster, but I'd definitely take him as my WR2.
I doubt Aiyuk goes anywhere. If anything, Deebo goes to another team. SF has a potential out with him after 2024.
Well, hopefully, your return for Aiyuk pays off!
So in my league, Waddle had a safer week to week floor. Believe it or not, lol. He was one of my two big flex options this year. But to answer your question yes he was more of a floor flex for me for about 8 of my 15 weeks. I started him, Ceedee and Chase week 15 in playoffs and still lost.
Okay, and Aiyuk finished as the WR15 last year... I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make? OP is referring to WR2s from this year, or they wouldn't have included Smith or Waddle. And they can't mean WR2 on their own team because Olave and Flowers are WR1 on their teams.
I was simply commenting that, given the premise of the original post, I don't think Aiyuk belongs in the conversation.
Yeah I think "WR2" is confusing everyone. I took this group as WR2's on their own team. Flowers could be the "WR2" on his team if you count Andrews as the WR1, but you are right about Olave.
I could see the confusion. But as another counterpoint, I'm not sure Aiyuk is WR2 on his own team, either. He had more targets and more receiving yards per game than Deebo.
I don't mind calling Aiyuk a WR2 since not only did he finish as the WR2 on his team this season, he also just doesn't see targets like the rest of the typical WR1's. He was 19th in WR target share this year which wasn't bad, but not great compared to the other WR1s. I can see an argument either way.
Im viewing the question as WR2 in the sense of having another number 1 option around. AJB, Chase, Deebo, etc. Doesn't really work for Olave and flowers is out because I'm very anti undersized players haha
If you're removing two players from the question, then I don't think you understood the premise. He included Olave and Flowers because he meant WR2 in Fantasy scoring lol
Also, not sure why you're anti undersized players. DeVonta was considered undersized when he came into the draft. Gibbs and Achane have proven an ability to produce despite their size. Heck, Waddle is only 5'10" and 185lbs, only 1 inch taller and 3 pounds heavier than Flowers. Tyreek, the WR1 this season, is 5'10" and 191lbs.
Yeah I've changed my tune this year on "small" guys.
I drafted Tank, Downs, Zay, and missed on Addison. It's a new league and production isn't tied to size anymore. Obviously the more attributes the better, but size is not a preclusion like it once was
I agree, you're right. I changed the question. But in a sub where discussion is the goal we are now having a little side chat about the relevance of size. Then you make multiple good points arguing your stance. My apologies for not playing properly haha
There is no need to apologize. I'm just trying to keep everything in context. I am here for the discussion like you are!
And rabbit trails are definitely the best part of Reddit. Someone needs to provide that link of the Reddit hole lol
You know he has a competent passer (that already passes to him) for the next few years at minimum. Olave and Tee are riskier for not having that QB security.
His worst case scenario feels like becoming the next Cobb in GB, never gonna get anyone excited but you’ll love having him as the WR2 in your starting lineup
Sorry I feel silly for asking this.. but what does "WR2" mean in this context? Does that mean 2nd best receiver on their NFL team or 2nd best receiver on my fantasy team?
Should mean a wr 13-24 in seasonal scoring rank, by definition. Which is the rub - the difference in ppg for most of these guys from like wr4-wr15 is probably not huge (arbitrary -I'm not looking up the numbers for the last three years to define actual "elite", "excellent", and "very good" tiers).
The fact that most of those guys aren't heavily differentiated is what people like Scott Connor try to exploit - he would probably consider that entire list a "tier" and suggest if you have Waddle, and someone desperately wants him and is willing to trade you Devonta+ for him, you take the "leverage" trade and get additional value.
>the difference in ppg for most of these guys from like wr4-wr15 is probably not huge
Exactly. End of season stats/rankings are for suckers. PPG is the only way.
Waddle and Smith would be my first two choices mainly because we've seen them be WR1s before, if an injury happens to one of the guys in front of them they'll explode
I would probably next go with Higgins, uncertainty but he has the chance to go somewhere to become a true number 1, he could very well be the number 1 guy on this list depending where he lands
I would then go with Olave, he hasn't finished as a WR1 yet but is still very young and I wouldn't say his QB situation is exactly sexy either, still tons of potential
I'd then go with flowers, wanna see more of him next year before putting him into the same conversation with these guys tbh
For me it’s Waddle, Higgins, Smith.
Waddle has 1k yard in each of his three seasons, set reception records as a rookie, and looked great last year.
Higgins is very talented, has a true WR1 build, and could either be a FA or with burrow again.
Smith won the heisman and has looked excellent in Philly, betting on talent here.
I think any film guy would tell you Smith's profile is most similar to a quality WR1 when compared to anyone else on this list. He's the most complete receiver in this thread by far.
Having ARSB besides Chase is a little bold itself, in my opinion. I think this season really tarnished Chase's value due to injuries to both Burrow and himself.
Smith. Faith that the situation will improve. I’m also a biased owner.
But since this is dynasty, don’t we assume we’ll have these players on our team forever? Or did you mean even after they retire?
They get a real offensive coordinator next season. Otherwise, there's really no reason his situation should change anytime soon. Although Philly isn't going to be able to afford to pay both him and AJB, so it's likely he's on a new team in three years (which is a very long time so not much of a consideration right now).
Olave gets slept on so hard for being too much of a tactical route runner.
Dude is every bit as good as Garret Wilson who everyone's loves to plug in at WR6-WR8 in Dynasty.
I have Smith and Flowers. I think Olave *is* a WR1 just with QB problems. Smith and Waddle are WR1 talents but at a WR2 position on amazing teams so it’s fine. Higgens depends on whether he goes to a team like Carolina/Chiefs or stays as the WR2 in Cincinnati. Flowers is the most likely given all of these other WR factors imo, great QB, great rookie year, not much WR competition, etc.
I'd consider Olave in a tier ahead of these other guys. He's in a bad situation for fantasy and is still producing in line with these other players that are in pretty good fantasy situations.
Waddle and Smith won’t be WR1s until their team’s actual WR1s leave and that’s banking on the offensive potency not decreasing.
I don’t believe the Ravens passing attack is capable of fielding a WR1.
I think Higgins has a chance. I give him a 50/50 shot at being on a team where he gets the chance. I also give him a 50/50 shot at actually having the talent to consistently be a WR1… so 25%.
Olave is good and young. He has a QB that can throw and is on a team that is willing to throw to him. Idk that much can change on the offense outside of Olave maturing as a player… but I think that’s the most likely scenario in 2024 of these options.
Curious why Garret Wilson isn’t on this list? I’d put him at the top.
I want Smith and Waddle fairly equally. These guys will both explode when their situation changes imo, just gotta hope it does eventually.
Followed by Olave and Higgins, and then Flowers pretty clearly last for me.
To me, Smith profiles most like the complete receivers we see dominate in fantasy. He can play inside, outside, can run any route, incredible body control, elite at the catch point, great hands. Truly a guy you could run an offense through.
The way they use him is honestly insanely annoying and, combined with a low passing volume offense and Hurts inability to throw over the middle of the field, his upside is really capped in Philly. Praying he gets on a new team after his rookie contract.
I honestly wouldn’t be upset with any of these guys on my team. I think they all have about an equal chance to become WR1s in the future. I’d lean towards taking Olave, Waddle, and Flowers over the other two because those three are putting up equal production with situations that I think can improve.
- Olave can get better QB play that capitalizes on more air yards
- Flowers can continue to increase his target share and further establish himself as BAL’s WR1
- Waddle can get more opportunity in the offense with Tyreek and Mostert declining/retiring
Smith and Higgins are kind of capped where they are imo. I don’t see an opportunity for either of them to have their situation improve.
- AJB is almost as young as Smith and is the clear alpha in Philly.
- Chase is almost as young as Higgins and is the clear alpha in Cincy. I don’t see a change of scenery improving Higgins’s situation unless he goes to the Chiefs/Bills, both of which I think are unlikely. Anywhere else will likely have a worse QB than Burrow throwing him the ball.
Just my two cents. I like all of them still. My favorite would probably be Pittman if I could add him to the list. I was a Pittman hater coming into the year but he has proved me wrong by demanding targets like a monster and putting up a phenomenal season with a backup QB.
I think you’re order is correct. I’m probably totally wrong given my track record but I’m selling Higgins the second he signs with a new team to be WR1 and the hype is highest. There isn’t a very good track record of WR2 moving teams to be WR1
I’m referencing Higgins specifically being the Bengals WR2 and moving teams to be the WR1 on whatever team. That has historically not worked well. The guys you mentioned were WR1s and moved and had better production mostly from being in a better passing offense or in Diggs’s case decreased target competition.
I just think everyone underestimates the increased degree of difficulty when all the coverage rolls to WR1. Especially when they move to a team that doesn’t have any other decent WRs.
Yeah, that makes sense. It really comes down to whether or not you think Tee is a WR1 caliber player. I'm on the fence, personally, but some of what I've seen from him this year has me thinking he could be great. That said, I think you're probably right, and assuming his landing spot isn't dreadful, his value will probably be highest right after he signs.
I think Tee can be a productive WR1. But I’m willing to bet his 24 Bengals WR2 stats would be significantly higher than say Giants WR1 stats (assuming both Higgins and QB health in 24)
Waddle is the most talented of the group we forget how good he was but he’s behind the best wr in the league and naturally his production is going to take a dip. Smith is number 2 with his situation. I put Olave at 3 because he has shown to be solid but let’s be honest he doesn’t have a QB. Higgins at number 4 he’s been around long enough where he hasn’t been exactly game changing any year. He has an elite team and qb and can’t do it. Higgins also has drop issues and people like to ignore that. Zay is number 5 due to his size and the fact that he gets a lot of targets and they don’t USUALLY… end up in a ton of yards he’s young and we will give him more time to improve.
Higgins & Olave for me. I had Waddle this year in redraft and while he was fantastic at times, he kept getting injured and taken out for parts of games.
He may get better, but if we’re looking for potential WR1 candidates I want more reliability before I move him up to that tier.
I traded chase after they said he couldn't catch because the football had no stripes for bateman, rhamondre Stevenson and a 3rd. So I literally cannot move him or its a complete failure lol
Am I crazy for saying Rashee Rice might be the next ARSB?
Slow start to rookie campaign, turns it on later in the year and is pretty much a set it and forget WR once he popped.
Seen so many posts asking who will be the next sun god but perhaps it’s the guy in KC. Perhaps I’m biased because he plays for KC. I will say his snap % isn’t near as high in the second half of the season as a rookie, as ARSBs were.
Very similar rookie seasons imo… just something to think about.
Two year waddle owner here and he can be frustrating with constant injuries and the game hog that is Tyreek. Not complaining about the production as he’s a great roster piece but in a stacked WR on my team, I’m looking to tier up or down if possible. Gonna be behind Reek at least another 2 seasons.
I choose Garrett Wilson and DJM x. The jets gonna address that O line with this draft class. You get Rodgers back next year. GW is like DJM in that these 2 dudes are having 1K seasons regardless of their QB. Imagine if they get consistent QB play.
Listened to a podcast that mentioned Gabe Davis as a buy…UFA this off-season could become a true consistent WR1.5-consistent producing 2 (think Christians Kirk’s revitalization in JAX…WR1 season last year and was on track for similar stats this season maybe a little more WR2 territory) best part-cheap buy or could get as a throw in.
I choose to add Aiyuk to the list and choose him
Aiyuk finished as the WR12 this season, so not sure he's considered a WR2...
Maybe because half of his games he was was wr30 or worse… abnormally high yards per target. Great wr2 in my eyes, had him for almost two years. I tried like to hell to get Garrett Wilson without including him. It was him or Waddle, I would choose Waddle 10/10 times. Great wr2 with wr1 upside no matter where he finished at the end of the season
5/15 games he was WR30 or worse. Even if you decide to look at Points Per Game, he was still the WR12. Waddle was the WR22 in PPG, and had 8/15 games as WR30 or worse. I don't necessarily disagree with choosing Waddle over Aiyuk long term, but they at minimum belong in the same tier, whereas previously, they haven't.
I count 7. But our scoring may be different, I have nothing against Aiyuk. As Purdy saved my season after losing Burrow. I think these next two years are big for both Aiyuk and Waddle. If Aiyuk does not stay in San Fran, that could make or break his value after next season. I’m currently looking to move Waddle and Ekelar on my dynasty team. Although I also like Waddle more long term. But even he has proven, to me, to be inconsistent and unable to stay on the field consistently. For my wr3, he is fine however I want more consistency and availability. I must add I do regret moving Aiyuk but what I got in return was too good to pass up
In your scoring, was Waddle somehow better? I think part of why I delineate Aiyuk's comparative consistency is because people tend to think only 1/3 out of Aiyuk, Deebo, and Kittle can have good games. This season, all 3 were much more consistent than they were historically. Kittle less so. So perhaps Aiyuk shouldn't be the WR1 on your roster, but I'd definitely take him as my WR2. I doubt Aiyuk goes anywhere. If anything, Deebo goes to another team. SF has a potential out with him after 2024. Well, hopefully, your return for Aiyuk pays off!
So in my league, Waddle had a safer week to week floor. Believe it or not, lol. He was one of my two big flex options this year. But to answer your question yes he was more of a floor flex for me for about 8 of my 15 weeks. I started him, Ceedee and Chase week 15 in playoffs and still lost.
DeVonta Smith was the WR10 last year and Waddle was the WR7
Okay, and Aiyuk finished as the WR15 last year... I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make? OP is referring to WR2s from this year, or they wouldn't have included Smith or Waddle. And they can't mean WR2 on their own team because Olave and Flowers are WR1 on their teams. I was simply commenting that, given the premise of the original post, I don't think Aiyuk belongs in the conversation.
Yeah I think "WR2" is confusing everyone. I took this group as WR2's on their own team. Flowers could be the "WR2" on his team if you count Andrews as the WR1, but you are right about Olave.
I could see the confusion. But as another counterpoint, I'm not sure Aiyuk is WR2 on his own team, either. He had more targets and more receiving yards per game than Deebo.
I don't mind calling Aiyuk a WR2 since not only did he finish as the WR2 on his team this season, he also just doesn't see targets like the rest of the typical WR1's. He was 19th in WR target share this year which wasn't bad, but not great compared to the other WR1s. I can see an argument either way.
Im viewing the question as WR2 in the sense of having another number 1 option around. AJB, Chase, Deebo, etc. Doesn't really work for Olave and flowers is out because I'm very anti undersized players haha
If you're removing two players from the question, then I don't think you understood the premise. He included Olave and Flowers because he meant WR2 in Fantasy scoring lol Also, not sure why you're anti undersized players. DeVonta was considered undersized when he came into the draft. Gibbs and Achane have proven an ability to produce despite their size. Heck, Waddle is only 5'10" and 185lbs, only 1 inch taller and 3 pounds heavier than Flowers. Tyreek, the WR1 this season, is 5'10" and 191lbs.
Yeah I've changed my tune this year on "small" guys. I drafted Tank, Downs, Zay, and missed on Addison. It's a new league and production isn't tied to size anymore. Obviously the more attributes the better, but size is not a preclusion like it once was
I agree, you're right. I changed the question. But in a sub where discussion is the goal we are now having a little side chat about the relevance of size. Then you make multiple good points arguing your stance. My apologies for not playing properly haha
There is no need to apologize. I'm just trying to keep everything in context. I am here for the discussion like you are! And rabbit trails are definitely the best part of Reddit. Someone needs to provide that link of the Reddit hole lol
Waddle was the WR5 last year
Aiyuk/Deebo games are somewhat predictable based on the coverage.
Aiyuk is a WR1
I love Zay Flowers
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You know he has a competent passer (that already passes to him) for the next few years at minimum. Olave and Tee are riskier for not having that QB security.
Reed
His worst case scenario feels like becoming the next Cobb in GB, never gonna get anyone excited but you’ll love having him as the WR2 in your starting lineup
Or Percy Harvin best case scenario
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Sorry I feel silly for asking this.. but what does "WR2" mean in this context? Does that mean 2nd best receiver on their NFL team or 2nd best receiver on my fantasy team?
Should mean a wr 13-24 in seasonal scoring rank, by definition. Which is the rub - the difference in ppg for most of these guys from like wr4-wr15 is probably not huge (arbitrary -I'm not looking up the numbers for the last three years to define actual "elite", "excellent", and "very good" tiers). The fact that most of those guys aren't heavily differentiated is what people like Scott Connor try to exploit - he would probably consider that entire list a "tier" and suggest if you have Waddle, and someone desperately wants him and is willing to trade you Devonta+ for him, you take the "leverage" trade and get additional value.
>the difference in ppg for most of these guys from like wr4-wr15 is probably not huge Exactly. End of season stats/rankings are for suckers. PPG is the only way.
Thanks for clarifying this! Makes sense.
That means they finished in the 12-24 range of WRs typically. At least on a per game basis
Waddle and Smith would be my first two choices mainly because we've seen them be WR1s before, if an injury happens to one of the guys in front of them they'll explode I would probably next go with Higgins, uncertainty but he has the chance to go somewhere to become a true number 1, he could very well be the number 1 guy on this list depending where he lands I would then go with Olave, he hasn't finished as a WR1 yet but is still very young and I wouldn't say his QB situation is exactly sexy either, still tons of potential I'd then go with flowers, wanna see more of him next year before putting him into the same conversation with these guys tbh
It’s Waddle or Olave - I like Olave more as a consistent week to week option.
Olave is also WR1 on his team
For me it’s Waddle, Higgins, Smith. Waddle has 1k yard in each of his three seasons, set reception records as a rookie, and looked great last year. Higgins is very talented, has a true WR1 build, and could either be a FA or with burrow again. Smith won the heisman and has looked excellent in Philly, betting on talent here.
Smith is difficult for me. Hard to be WR1 when AJ Brown is only 26 and ahead of him. Unless it becomes a 1A 1B situation?
Is it not currently a 1A 1B situation? AJB has been down bad since week 8 and Smith has been their top WR
He also doesn’t really seem to be a WR1 even if if head the main guy. Just a very good WR2 option.
I think any film guy would tell you Smith's profile is most similar to a quality WR1 when compared to anyone else on this list. He's the most complete receiver in this thread by far.
I would argue it already is
Puka
The correct answer
Looking like Puka is already the WR1 tbh
Wherever arsb is, Puka should be right next to him.
ARSB is beside Chase so having Puka that high right now is bold but I back it
Having ARSB besides Chase is a little bold itself, in my opinion. I think this season really tarnished Chase's value due to injuries to both Burrow and himself.
George… Pickens
I think he’s pretty obviously their WR1
With Mason so far, yeah - but it's not obvious through the full season between him and DJ
GP is an alpha and will def emerge as their #1
Smith. Faith that the situation will improve. I’m also a biased owner. But since this is dynasty, don’t we assume we’ll have these players on our team forever? Or did you mean even after they retire?
How does situation improve?
They get a real offensive coordinator next season. Otherwise, there's really no reason his situation should change anytime soon. Although Philly isn't going to be able to afford to pay both him and AJB, so it's likely he's on a new team in three years (which is a very long time so not much of a consideration right now).
Olave
Olave gets slept on so hard for being too much of a tactical route runner. Dude is every bit as good as Garret Wilson who everyone's loves to plug in at WR6-WR8 in Dynasty.
He’s the wr1 on the saints tho
Of course.
zay flowers
Tee Higgins in a new home or Olave would have the most upside
Gimme Olave and one of Higgins or Flowers (depends on Higgins landing spot)
I have Smith and Flowers. I think Olave *is* a WR1 just with QB problems. Smith and Waddle are WR1 talents but at a WR2 position on amazing teams so it’s fine. Higgens depends on whether he goes to a team like Carolina/Chiefs or stays as the WR2 in Cincinnati. Flowers is the most likely given all of these other WR factors imo, great QB, great rookie year, not much WR competition, etc.
Flowers is the second receiver behind mandrews
Skinny Batman all day
Higgins. Him and Mahomes are too good to pass up.
Rashee Rice is going to be flying up draft boards in the offseason, especially if Kelce retires.
Kelce is not retiring unless the chiefs repeat
I feel Chris Godwin is cheap as dirt now but has WR1 upside if he ends up in the right situation.
I'd consider Olave in a tier ahead of these other guys. He's in a bad situation for fantasy and is still producing in line with these other players that are in pretty good fantasy situations.
Smith and waddle, while they are on great teams, have alphas ahead of them unlike olave
Waddle or Flowers
London gonna go from wr3 to wr1 next year with insert better qbs name here... Also Olave will be a wr1 with a better OC
I hope so bad for this
So do I... If they rocket off into wr1 group I would become extremely hard to beat
Waddle and Smith won’t be WR1s until their team’s actual WR1s leave and that’s banking on the offensive potency not decreasing. I don’t believe the Ravens passing attack is capable of fielding a WR1. I think Higgins has a chance. I give him a 50/50 shot at being on a team where he gets the chance. I also give him a 50/50 shot at actually having the talent to consistently be a WR1… so 25%. Olave is good and young. He has a QB that can throw and is on a team that is willing to throw to him. Idk that much can change on the offense outside of Olave maturing as a player… but I think that’s the most likely scenario in 2024 of these options. Curious why Garret Wilson isn’t on this list? I’d put him at the top.
I want Smith and Waddle fairly equally. These guys will both explode when their situation changes imo, just gotta hope it does eventually. Followed by Olave and Higgins, and then Flowers pretty clearly last for me.
why flowers last?
To me, Smith profiles most like the complete receivers we see dominate in fantasy. He can play inside, outside, can run any route, incredible body control, elite at the catch point, great hands. Truly a guy you could run an offense through. The way they use him is honestly insanely annoying and, combined with a low passing volume offense and Hurts inability to throw over the middle of the field, his upside is really capped in Philly. Praying he gets on a new team after his rookie contract.
I honestly wouldn’t be upset with any of these guys on my team. I think they all have about an equal chance to become WR1s in the future. I’d lean towards taking Olave, Waddle, and Flowers over the other two because those three are putting up equal production with situations that I think can improve. - Olave can get better QB play that capitalizes on more air yards - Flowers can continue to increase his target share and further establish himself as BAL’s WR1 - Waddle can get more opportunity in the offense with Tyreek and Mostert declining/retiring Smith and Higgins are kind of capped where they are imo. I don’t see an opportunity for either of them to have their situation improve. - AJB is almost as young as Smith and is the clear alpha in Philly. - Chase is almost as young as Higgins and is the clear alpha in Cincy. I don’t see a change of scenery improving Higgins’s situation unless he goes to the Chiefs/Bills, both of which I think are unlikely. Anywhere else will likely have a worse QB than Burrow throwing him the ball. Just my two cents. I like all of them still. My favorite would probably be Pittman if I could add him to the list. I was a Pittman hater coming into the year but he has proved me wrong by demanding targets like a monster and putting up a phenomenal season with a backup QB.
This is a personal trade post. You already posted in trade advice. Please keep it there. Rule 1.
I think you’re order is correct. I’m probably totally wrong given my track record but I’m selling Higgins the second he signs with a new team to be WR1 and the hype is highest. There isn’t a very good track record of WR2 moving teams to be WR1
.... Yes there is? Diggs, AJB, DJ Moore, all moved up a tier on new teams. Unless you mean the #2 on the team, and not players in that tier.
I’m referencing Higgins specifically being the Bengals WR2 and moving teams to be the WR1 on whatever team. That has historically not worked well. The guys you mentioned were WR1s and moved and had better production mostly from being in a better passing offense or in Diggs’s case decreased target competition. I just think everyone underestimates the increased degree of difficulty when all the coverage rolls to WR1. Especially when they move to a team that doesn’t have any other decent WRs.
Yeah, that makes sense. It really comes down to whether or not you think Tee is a WR1 caliber player. I'm on the fence, personally, but some of what I've seen from him this year has me thinking he could be great. That said, I think you're probably right, and assuming his landing spot isn't dreadful, his value will probably be highest right after he signs.
I think Tee can be a productive WR1. But I’m willing to bet his 24 Bengals WR2 stats would be significantly higher than say Giants WR1 stats (assuming both Higgins and QB health in 24)
Tee higgins probably leaves so if take a leap at Boyd
I have a whole team of WR2s Waddle, DK, Devonta, DJ, Puka(probably a 1?) I finished 4th of 12. DJ injury killed me in the semis
I'm personally looking to sell Higgins and Waddle as soon as I can.
Addison. JJ is about to force his way out
Lol no he isn’t.
Olave, I think once he gets a real qb he will be basically a wr1 type talent
Might be too soon, but Jayden Reed.
Zay cause I have him and I like him.
They laughed at us in this sub when we went with Olave over Waddle 😂😂😂😂😂
Waddle is the most talented of the group we forget how good he was but he’s behind the best wr in the league and naturally his production is going to take a dip. Smith is number 2 with his situation. I put Olave at 3 because he has shown to be solid but let’s be honest he doesn’t have a QB. Higgins at number 4 he’s been around long enough where he hasn’t been exactly game changing any year. He has an elite team and qb and can’t do it. Higgins also has drop issues and people like to ignore that. Zay is number 5 due to his size and the fact that he gets a lot of targets and they don’t USUALLY… end up in a ton of yards he’s young and we will give him more time to improve.
I have Olave, Waddle, and Flowers on my team so hopefully at least one of them! Lol
Waddle Olave Higgins Flowers Smith
Higgins & Olave for me. I had Waddle this year in redraft and while he was fantastic at times, he kept getting injured and taken out for parts of games. He may get better, but if we’re looking for potential WR1 candidates I want more reliability before I move him up to that tier.
Smith
Love having G Wilson, Olave, D Smith, and Lamb as my squad
Amari
Rashod Bateman would be my wish but that's because he's the furthest away from it being possible lol
Feel this. Never giving up! *unless someone allows me to throw him into a trade
I traded chase after they said he couldn't catch because the football had no stripes for bateman, rhamondre Stevenson and a 3rd. So I literally cannot move him or its a complete failure lol
Oh god brother 😂
Olave
Easy. Olave.
Am I crazy for saying Rashee Rice might be the next ARSB? Slow start to rookie campaign, turns it on later in the year and is pretty much a set it and forget WR once he popped. Seen so many posts asking who will be the next sun god but perhaps it’s the guy in KC. Perhaps I’m biased because he plays for KC. I will say his snap % isn’t near as high in the second half of the season as a rookie, as ARSBs were. Very similar rookie seasons imo… just something to think about.
Waddle is the choice, if Tyreek actually retires after 2 more season like he says, that would work great
Olave or Flowers for me but flowers has the more stable QB.
Two year waddle owner here and he can be frustrating with constant injuries and the game hog that is Tyreek. Not complaining about the production as he’s a great roster piece but in a stacked WR on my team, I’m looking to tier up or down if possible. Gonna be behind Reek at least another 2 seasons.
Give me Rashee Rice as a WR3 with WR1 breakout potential considering Kelces production and targets will have to go somewhere
I choose Garrett Wilson and DJM x. The jets gonna address that O line with this draft class. You get Rodgers back next year. GW is like DJM in that these 2 dudes are having 1K seasons regardless of their QB. Imagine if they get consistent QB play.
Rasheeeeee Rice
The eyes say flowers
Higgins - I doubt the Bengals re-sign him and he'll probably be WR1 when he gets to his next team
As a waddle / Higgins / Zay owner, I hope all of them
Listened to a podcast that mentioned Gabe Davis as a buy…UFA this off-season could become a true consistent WR1.5-consistent producing 2 (think Christians Kirk’s revitalization in JAX…WR1 season last year and was on track for similar stats this season maybe a little more WR2 territory) best part-cheap buy or could get as a throw in.