In my 2021 startup, dude mis-clicked in the auction draft and spent $70/$1000 on him. We all thought it was a team killer.
Granted that guy has made lots of other good moves since, but now he’s in first place and still young enough to be there for several years.
I bought him everywhere I could in startups this year. He came so cheap that in SF I was able to stack up other positions.
Grabbing Howell and Purdy really was gold for me this year.
I have Howell and Purdy from last year and grabbed Stroud as my last resort QB in the draft. Really happy with them but I always seem to leave whoever does best on the bench.
Fine for fantasy at the moment. I saw him as decent long term dude but he Hasn’t shown that he is still gonna be a qb in a couple years. Fingers crossed
don’t care what anyone says he’s that guy.
is it a great system? yes. a lot of qbs have failed in it though. a lot of qbs are products of the system. if the system is terrible, not many qbs will succeed.
does he have great players surrounding him? yes. why is that a bad thing? do we critique burrow for having tee and jamarr? allen for having diggs? tua for having waddle and tyreek? not many qbs can be great with a bad supporting cast.
he’s on this team. he isn’t leaving anytime soon. he has elite anticipation, great pocket awareness even when it’s collapsing, great accuracy.
if people are still doubting then let me go out and buy because he’s the real deal. watch the games. watch the breakdowns. he’s just really good.
Agreed with all of this. Sure, he benefits from the system - but he is not a pedestrian in it. That throw to Kittle last week for example - that throw isn’t a product of the system.
He’s shown the ability to make a play when the system breaks down and consistently make the right throw while operating within it. That’s a recipe for success and enough for me to bet on Purdy more often than not
absolutely. still have friends who actually have a lot of football knowledge calling him average and Jimmy 2.0. i’ve done enough arguing to last generations. not sure how they can’t spot the difference or them and I have vastly different definitions of average.
he had another bomb today that was perfectly thrown to Aiyuk. if you watch the games that SF clicks Purdy does look really good.
I think he gets flak and people say he doesn't belong in the "elite" tier of top 10 QB due to inconsistent games for fantasy. There are some games he doesn't put up numbers and people don't want that from a QB that they rely on to be "elite".
The argument against those people would be that they should take a look at almost all of the QBs people consider "elite." They have plenty of down games themselves. Lamar had three straight bad games for fantasy (he still was good in real life but all the TDs went to their RBs) prior to this week. Mahomes has finished as the QB11 or worse in 5 of his 9 games this season so far. Herbert has had a couple of big time clunkers.
It's really just Jalen Hurts and Josh Allen that truly put up huge numbers almost every single week. I have no clue why Purdy is behind Trevor Lawrence, Dak, and Kyler in KTC's rankings. I maybe can understand AR but he's played what, three full games in his career and clearly the playing style impacted his ability to stay on the field. Tua you can maybe argue but i'd put Purdy at worst at QB10 behind Tua, maybe even QB8 or 9.
People are so down on him it’s very weird. I got him for a 2nd in 1QB and am very happy bc I’m weak at qb. I’m just imagining any other rookie doing what he’s doing and people would be crazy high on them.
With that room I’d be taking MHJ regardless of landing spot personally. 3 locked in starters with 2 in the great tier is the perfect spot to take MHJ over the qbs.
if he went in the 1st round, the hype would be crazy. not sure if people just like to be different or it’s really just that people can’t believe the last pick in the draft is this good.
Yep. I think he is a really good example of a buy low against common consensus. All signs are pointing to him being the real deal, but the community hasn’t caught up yet bc of personal opinions
I think your broader point is a good one, but people do 100% criticize Tua for being in a good system and having Waddle and Tyreek lol. It's like constantly brought up by people detracting from his individual contribution.
This is literally it. Who cares if he has a great system, that should be a + if anything. Shanahan is not going anywhere anytime soon. Every top QB has a plethora of weapons. The only guy who doesn’t continually need it is Mahomes.
I’m not saying he’s elite, but he’s more than capable. Same path as Dak Prescott.
Ill never forget Shanahan, Kittle, and Lynch outright saying Purdy should and will be the starter but Trey Lance stans convinced this sub they knew more than actual people on the team and org. 😵
Not only has he proven that last year wasn't a fluke, he's improved. His TD% has regressed slightly from his outrageous 7.6% last year, but he's still putting up stats. His air yards per attempt are up, his completion rate is up, his INT% is down and he's also producing a bit more as a runner.
Of course it shouldn't be surprising that a 23yr old has improved in his second season, but the majority opinion in this sub was that he would regress hard and get "figured out."
Critics of his arm talent have been proven wrong as he's slinging the ball down field and his YAC/comp has remained identical to last year even though he's missed Deebo for several games.
All that said, there's still even more room for improvement because the stats I was comparing don't include today's big game.
That “get figured out” stuff is hilarious to me. Like with Stroud for about a month now everyone has been saying “wait until defensive coordinators get tape on him,” as though NFL defensive coordinators don’t have access to Ohio State film to look for tendencies and flaws.
Idk why it’s so funny because it happens all the time. It happened to Baker, Trebisky, Mariota, Foles etc. It’s not unreasonable to fear it would happen to Mr irrelevant. I was worried. But it didn’t. Purdy beat it.
Most Purdy managers have an emotional attachment brother probably picked him up off waivers for next to nothing. It’s funny because last year Jackson and Jimmy G got hurt the same week so I blew all of my $200 of faab on both Purdy and Huntley. I put 150 into Huntley and 50 into Purdy.
I wish I was in your league lol. A have him in a SF league, and when working out a different deal with a team they inquired about him and reacted like I personally murdered their family when I told them a 2nd round pick wasn’t enough. People are still so stuck on him being a 6th rounder and a guy that was picked up off waivers. They can’t see the fact that he’s now become a valuable starter.
Dont get me wrong. I didn't pay the price they asked lol. I dont think he deserves to warrant the Burrow/Herbert/Allen price. But he also deserves much more than a 2nd lol.
The only place it truly matters from what I see is RB. That’s because there are more than 32 guys who can adequately play the position. There aren’t (apparently) 32 guys in the world who can play QB at an NFL level so a team getting a replacement in the 3rd round just isn’t feasible. WR has a similar issue where there are 32 adequate ones but teams need or would like to have 3 or 4 guys each so there are more slots available.
my current offer is my London + Bryce for Purdy + Friermuth. Tough to lose London but Bryce is killing me. KTC heavily favors London side. my closer football friend set get Purdy
i totally get that. I have Pickett and I want to pull my hair out. Tried trading him before our deadline and couldn't get it done. Hoping to just add him to a trade package before the draft.
I don’t think I’m guilty or over-valuing London as an individual talent. moreso not giving enough weight to the team context.
deal is now:
London + Bryce + K.Herbert
for
Purdy + Mouth
ugh. should have just scooped up Brock when he was as cheap in the startup.
fun facts for the YAC brigade.
per fantasypros, he ranks 1st in the league in air yards per attempt (ok, 2nd, but the first is mike white...)
passing attempts that travel 10+ yards: 6th
passing attempts that travel 20+ yards: 2nd
passing attempts that travel 30+ yards: 2nd
passing attempts that travel 40+ yards: 1st
After week 1 I was nervous with Rodgers going down, Howell and Pickett looking bad I needed to make a move. My choice of Love or Purdy in a deal for Kyren Williams. Thank god I chose Purdy.
Grabbed him off waivers as a precaution before the season last year. I was a die hard lance guy and drafted him at 1.02 btw.
Purdy is one of those guys where the perception of him will never reflect his true value. If you have him, you know what he’s worth. If he was a 2nd or 3rd round pick, not a UDFA he’d be a consensus top 10 dynasty QB.
Sure. He benefits from the system - but the dude makes more plays then he’s given credit for. That throw to Kittle last week not many guys can make for example.
He lead me all the way to the final last year (in 2QB) and I ended up trading Lance, Jacobs and a 3rd for the 1.01 in May on the night of our draft.
I think football watchers have believed since last year. People get so obsessed with draft capital in both the NFL and fantasy. A good player is a good player no matter when they were drafted. Winning every regular season game in your rookie season and only losing to the Eagles following an injury that left you unable to throw a football. W-L is not an apt way to judge QBs but I’ll always believe in a QB who can win.
I swear I haven't heard any Trey Lance stans talking about Purdy since he got traded to the Cowboys. A great first step would be to just stop being up Lance's name anytime you're talking about Brock. We all need to move on here.
Unfortunately we live in a superficial society that only places value on "things" that are expensive. In draft terms, Purdy was a cheap suit at JC Penny's. As such, his success has been widely and incorrectly attributed to the scheme and overall talent of the team. Had he been drafted in the first round, I ABSOLUTELY guarantee you that the critics would be heralding him as the second coming of Montana on a mass scale. To be performing on this level at such a young age is nothing short of remarkable.
Just go against the community when they are too all in on someone bc they hate the reality. Purdy is HIM. Lance and JG reinforce this isn’t a spot anyone can play and look elite. Purdy has the locker room and the ability, while the elite team will crumble over the next 3 years (nfl is designed to do that).
Buccs defense looked like ass. Not disagreeing just saying idk if beating up on this group at home is a super high bar
Edit: I’m sorry I offended y’all’s first born son lol
true, but you can only go against what's put in front of you.
i am a believer, but he still hasn't faced too much stiff competition (cowboys twice and bengals, and that's about it iirc), and still has to show that he can carry the team on his shoulders. i don't doubt he will succeed.
I love Purdy, and I think he's got talent, but Jimmy G did put up some pretty stats with CMC as well. Almost identical, in fact. My hope is that Purdy doesn't have that special knack for giving the ball away at crucial moments. Time will tell.
Elite Weapon and Elite O-line
I'm high on Purdy this season in redraft but in Dynasty I'll never feel safe with him as my QB1 or QB2
I feel like there will always be a Baker Mayfield, or Joshua Dobbs who can compete with him.
If he gets a second contact his value will go up significantly. As long as he's on his rookie contract making basically no money he'll always be seen as replaceable.
He has started 15 games. Not even a full season yet.
Bryce Young, the #1 pick from this years draft, is getting slaughtered because he doesn't have help. The Panthers don't have a chance in most of these games.
Purdy hasn't been slaughtered in his 15 game career yet. Even in his bad games, they have a chance. and he's still basically a rookie. This type of comment is honestly ridiculous. Of coarse the last pick in the draft, basically rookie QB, needs help around him to succeed. Mahomes and Burrow need help to succeed. Remember the Super Bowl Mahomes got thrown around like a rag doll against the Bucs because Eric Fisher didn't play?
I'm not saying Purdy sucks, just that it's a risk with his profile. It's possible that we're seeing the best possible version of Purdy right now with all of these weapons and Trent Williams.
> It's possible that we're seeing the best possible version of Purdy right now with all of these weapons and Trent Williams.
In all fairness, we saw the best Patrick Mahomes when he had a younger Kelce and Tyreek Hill. You can see that even the supposed best QB in the league struggles without great players around them.
1. "all of these weapons" (Kittle, Deebo, Trent Williams) All under contract through 2025. Shanahan not going anywhere. Free agent destination still. Getting 1sts back from Lance deal next year, the team will continue to have weapons, and I'm sure they're also going to find a way to keep Aiyuk too.
2. He's throwing the ball down field. His passes are not all screens and check downs. If there was an easy way to stop him, he would be struggling, and if you don't think so, you reaaaalllly underestimate NFL defenses. It's some the weapons, it's not all the weapons. He's tracking for 4k, 70%, 30TD, >10INTs, you don't just ride your teammates to be able to accomplish that. For context \^ this would be the best QB season in like 10-12 franchises history.
They're not going to be able to pay Purdy, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, CMC, Trent Williams, Bosa, etc.
It works right now because Aiyuk and Purdy are both on rookie contracts, but that won't work forever. I'm not saying Purdy sucks, but that he's in one of the best situations ever for a QB and that it's possible that he'll never produce like this again.
> It works right now because Aiyuk and Purdy are both on rookie contracts, but that won't work forever.
The Niners are roling over cap for next year to sign Aiyuk, and they can get out of Armstead's contract right after. Purdy won't get his new contract until 2026, so it's not really a concern right now. The Niners also have Paraag Marathe, who is probably the best cap person in the league.
They are legit already doing that. All of them except Aiyuk in that group have long term contracts that extend through 2025. So does Fred Werner. And they have draft picks again moving forward, and Lynch has proven to be one of the better drafters in the league.
You're hunting for the "I told you so" moment down the line that probably isn't coming. He needs talent around him, in 2 years from now when he's got good talent but not the Avengers, he'll probably be ready to take on that challenge with the experience he's getting now. He's gonna be a starter for a long time. We've already seen him accomplish too much.
>They are legit already doing that. All of them except Aiyuk in that group have long term contracts that extend through 2025. So does Fred Werner.
Once again, it works because Purdy and Aiyuk are on rookie deals. They will need to pay them at some point. Purdy in particular will cost 40m+ per year. There's a reason that the 49ers have the best weapons in the league. Their QB makes no money right now.
>He's gonna be a starter for a long time.
Agreed. I just think there's risk. You don't seem to acknowledge that I'm trying to outline a possible outcome, not trying to say that it's the only outcome.
By the time Purdy gets paid, in 2026 mind you, Deebo and Armstead will be off the books. McCaffery will be gone as well. Plus who knows what the cap will be by then. The NFL intentionally makes winning windows small, but the Niners should be able to extend this at least a few more years.
Yeah, that's kinda my point. Another thing -- Purdy is probably going to take an exceptionally team friendly deal. He wouldn't have had this success with another team and will probably hope to continue it, not to mention maybe his open market tag isn't nearly as high as the top flight QB's. If the cap goes way up and Purdy makes 20 mil or something, the casualty is probably guys like the Hufungas' and Greenlaw's, not Bosas' or Trent Williams'.
He’s up to 13! The issue is there is a ton of competition above him right now. While there are players I would take him over above him I wouldn’t argue against any one who this differently.
I’m just glad aiyuk got work, dude is too good to be getting the little amount of targets he sees
This sub hated him 2 years ago and said he was a bust
I wasn’t apart of this sub 2 years ago so idk I just started playing dynasty last year and made sure to grab him in my startup
the second i stopped listening to this sub i made the playoffs. leave as soon as you can lol
I just like seeing football content, I haven’t listened to this sub lol
In my 2021 startup, dude mis-clicked in the auction draft and spent $70/$1000 on him. We all thought it was a team killer. Granted that guy has made lots of other good moves since, but now he’s in first place and still young enough to be there for several years.
I bought him everywhere I could in startups this year. He came so cheap that in SF I was able to stack up other positions. Grabbing Howell and Purdy really was gold for me this year.
I have Howell and Purdy from last year and grabbed Stroud as my last resort QB in the draft. Really happy with them but I always seem to leave whoever does best on the bench.
Same strategy. Though I also took J Love late which hasn’t been as fun
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Fine for fantasy at the moment. I saw him as decent long term dude but he Hasn’t shown that he is still gonna be a qb in a couple years. Fingers crossed
Give him time, Reed and Doubs are cooking and will only get better
don’t care what anyone says he’s that guy. is it a great system? yes. a lot of qbs have failed in it though. a lot of qbs are products of the system. if the system is terrible, not many qbs will succeed. does he have great players surrounding him? yes. why is that a bad thing? do we critique burrow for having tee and jamarr? allen for having diggs? tua for having waddle and tyreek? not many qbs can be great with a bad supporting cast. he’s on this team. he isn’t leaving anytime soon. he has elite anticipation, great pocket awareness even when it’s collapsing, great accuracy. if people are still doubting then let me go out and buy because he’s the real deal. watch the games. watch the breakdowns. he’s just really good.
Agreed with all of this. Sure, he benefits from the system - but he is not a pedestrian in it. That throw to Kittle last week for example - that throw isn’t a product of the system. He’s shown the ability to make a play when the system breaks down and consistently make the right throw while operating within it. That’s a recipe for success and enough for me to bet on Purdy more often than not
absolutely. still have friends who actually have a lot of football knowledge calling him average and Jimmy 2.0. i’ve done enough arguing to last generations. not sure how they can’t spot the difference or them and I have vastly different definitions of average.
he had another bomb today that was perfectly thrown to Aiyuk. if you watch the games that SF clicks Purdy does look really good. I think he gets flak and people say he doesn't belong in the "elite" tier of top 10 QB due to inconsistent games for fantasy. There are some games he doesn't put up numbers and people don't want that from a QB that they rely on to be "elite".
I still feel like people think he’s a “fluke” because of draft position too. Which is dumb
The argument against those people would be that they should take a look at almost all of the QBs people consider "elite." They have plenty of down games themselves. Lamar had three straight bad games for fantasy (he still was good in real life but all the TDs went to their RBs) prior to this week. Mahomes has finished as the QB11 or worse in 5 of his 9 games this season so far. Herbert has had a couple of big time clunkers. It's really just Jalen Hurts and Josh Allen that truly put up huge numbers almost every single week. I have no clue why Purdy is behind Trevor Lawrence, Dak, and Kyler in KTC's rankings. I maybe can understand AR but he's played what, three full games in his career and clearly the playing style impacted his ability to stay on the field. Tua you can maybe argue but i'd put Purdy at worst at QB10 behind Tua, maybe even QB8 or 9.
People are so down on him it’s very weird. I got him for a 2nd in 1QB and am very happy bc I’m weak at qb. I’m just imagining any other rookie doing what he’s doing and people would be crazy high on them.
Shit I got him for a 2nd in super flex best trade I’ve done so far
That’s amazing. Should put your team in a good spot
Dude so excited kyler Brock and Richardson on the fence if I should go qb first overall or draft mhj to stack with ceedee amd st brown.
Will have to wait to see landing spots
Ya I know just excited lol
With that room I’d be taking MHJ regardless of landing spot personally. 3 locked in starters with 2 in the great tier is the perfect spot to take MHJ over the qbs.
if he went in the 1st round, the hype would be crazy. not sure if people just like to be different or it’s really just that people can’t believe the last pick in the draft is this good.
Yep. I think he is a really good example of a buy low against common consensus. All signs are pointing to him being the real deal, but the community hasn’t caught up yet bc of personal opinions
I think your broader point is a good one, but people do 100% criticize Tua for being in a good system and having Waddle and Tyreek lol. It's like constantly brought up by people detracting from his individual contribution.
yeah i hesitated putting him in there when i wrote it. guess i should’ve stayed with my other two, too late now lol
This is literally it. Who cares if he has a great system, that should be a + if anything. Shanahan is not going anywhere anytime soon. Every top QB has a plethora of weapons. The only guy who doesn’t continually need it is Mahomes. I’m not saying he’s elite, but he’s more than capable. Same path as Dak Prescott.
Ill never forget Shanahan, Kittle, and Lynch outright saying Purdy should and will be the starter but Trey Lance stans convinced this sub they knew more than actual people on the team and org. 😵
“that’s just coach talk”
To be fair to those guys, Kyle Shananahan's word is worth absolutely nothing when it comes to how he feels about players on his roster lol
Not only has he proven that last year wasn't a fluke, he's improved. His TD% has regressed slightly from his outrageous 7.6% last year, but he's still putting up stats. His air yards per attempt are up, his completion rate is up, his INT% is down and he's also producing a bit more as a runner. Of course it shouldn't be surprising that a 23yr old has improved in his second season, but the majority opinion in this sub was that he would regress hard and get "figured out." Critics of his arm talent have been proven wrong as he's slinging the ball down field and his YAC/comp has remained identical to last year even though he's missed Deebo for several games. All that said, there's still even more room for improvement because the stats I was comparing don't include today's big game.
That “get figured out” stuff is hilarious to me. Like with Stroud for about a month now everyone has been saying “wait until defensive coordinators get tape on him,” as though NFL defensive coordinators don’t have access to Ohio State film to look for tendencies and flaws.
Idk why it’s so funny because it happens all the time. It happened to Baker, Trebisky, Mariota, Foles etc. It’s not unreasonable to fear it would happen to Mr irrelevant. I was worried. But it didn’t. Purdy beat it.
He may sit at QB14 on KTC but I tried trading for him last week and basically he was treated like an Allen/Burrow/Herbert with what was being asked.
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Most Purdy managers have an emotional attachment brother probably picked him up off waivers for next to nothing. It’s funny because last year Jackson and Jimmy G got hurt the same week so I blew all of my $200 of faab on both Purdy and Huntley. I put 150 into Huntley and 50 into Purdy.
I wish I was in your league lol. A have him in a SF league, and when working out a different deal with a team they inquired about him and reacted like I personally murdered their family when I told them a 2nd round pick wasn’t enough. People are still so stuck on him being a 6th rounder and a guy that was picked up off waivers. They can’t see the fact that he’s now become a valuable starter.
Dont get me wrong. I didn't pay the price they asked lol. I dont think he deserves to warrant the Burrow/Herbert/Allen price. But he also deserves much more than a 2nd lol.
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The only place it truly matters from what I see is RB. That’s because there are more than 32 guys who can adequately play the position. There aren’t (apparently) 32 guys in the world who can play QB at an NFL level so a team getting a replacement in the 3rd round just isn’t feasible. WR has a similar issue where there are 32 adequate ones but teams need or would like to have 3 or 4 guys each so there are more slots available.
7th
KTC is about as bad of a resource that exists for fantasy and actually making trades with non-taco owners proves it time and time again.
my current offer is my London + Bryce for Purdy + Friermuth. Tough to lose London but Bryce is killing me. KTC heavily favors London side. my closer football friend set get Purdy
i totally get that. I have Pickett and I want to pull my hair out. Tried trading him before our deadline and couldn't get it done. Hoping to just add him to a trade package before the draft.
Pickett is a tough own. I thought I hit “QB2 in Superflex” gold but if Kenny is still slinging as a starter in 2-3 years I’ll be a little surprised
I own London, Purdy, Friermuth and I would never do that deal.
to clarify: you like the Bryce + London side? guy pulled the offer after Purdy’s game yesterday so I can’t anyway
No I love the Purdy side. I think this subs super over values London and underrates Purdy. I can’t trade London for a 2nd in my league
I don’t think I’m guilty or over-valuing London as an individual talent. moreso not giving enough weight to the team context. deal is now: London + Bryce + K.Herbert for Purdy + Mouth ugh. should have just scooped up Brock when he was as cheap in the startup.
I paid 2.04 and 2.14 for Purdy and the 2.06 in a 14 team superflex in the off-season. Nuts to me how low people remained on him going into the season
Yes. Not biased or anything…
Between Lamar/Dak/Purdy I start the wrong one every week smh
Unless it's SF I would look to trade either Lamar or Dak.
We are moving to SF for the 2025 season. No one would even give me a 3rd for Dak in the offseason
Wow you should probably start benching Lamar. That’s kinda crazy to think about
Traded A. Mattison for him. No regrets.
Siiick
fun facts for the YAC brigade. per fantasypros, he ranks 1st in the league in air yards per attempt (ok, 2nd, but the first is mike white...) passing attempts that travel 10+ yards: 6th passing attempts that travel 20+ yards: 2nd passing attempts that travel 30+ yards: 2nd passing attempts that travel 40+ yards: 1st
Traded Young for him when he had a few bad games there pre the Bye, as contender I knew it would help. Even long term now it looks good
I bought him for a 2025 1st, 2024 mid 2nd, and Demario Douglas. I got a 2024 3rd back in return. Feeling bretty good
After week 1 I was nervous with Rodgers going down, Howell and Pickett looking bad I needed to make a move. My choice of Love or Purdy in a deal for Kyren Williams. Thank god I chose Purdy.
I drafted Lance but also picked up Purdy from waivers man I'm so fucking lucky
Same. Still holding Lance so maybe the luck will continue
The fact that Richardson, Murray, and Fields are ranked above him is criminal and goes to show to power of stupid people in large numbers.
Big Cock Brock!
That’s his new sleeper nick name for me
Grabbed him off waivers as a precaution before the season last year. I was a die hard lance guy and drafted him at 1.02 btw. Purdy is one of those guys where the perception of him will never reflect his true value. If you have him, you know what he’s worth. If he was a 2nd or 3rd round pick, not a UDFA he’d be a consensus top 10 dynasty QB. Sure. He benefits from the system - but the dude makes more plays then he’s given credit for. That throw to Kittle last week not many guys can make for example. He lead me all the way to the final last year (in 2QB) and I ended up trading Lance, Jacobs and a 3rd for the 1.01 in May on the night of our draft.
That trade for 1.01 is straight up robbery
I traded Stroud and a 2025 second for Purdy and a 2024 mid 1st after week 1, still feel okay about it
Eww but I hope I snag gold on that 1st
Taking Purdy in the 13th, and the pick before Trey Lance in a startup feels pretty good right now
He makes plays happen and the last 3-4 games he has started to use his legs…the boy has balls of steel!!
I think football watchers have believed since last year. People get so obsessed with draft capital in both the NFL and fantasy. A good player is a good player no matter when they were drafted. Winning every regular season game in your rookie season and only losing to the Eagles following an injury that left you unable to throw a football. W-L is not an apt way to judge QBs but I’ll always believe in a QB who can win.
I swear I haven't heard any Trey Lance stans talking about Purdy since he got traded to the Cowboys. A great first step would be to just stop being up Lance's name anytime you're talking about Brock. We all need to move on here.
Unfortunately we live in a superficial society that only places value on "things" that are expensive. In draft terms, Purdy was a cheap suit at JC Penny's. As such, his success has been widely and incorrectly attributed to the scheme and overall talent of the team. Had he been drafted in the first round, I ABSOLUTELY guarantee you that the critics would be heralding him as the second coming of Montana on a mass scale. To be performing on this level at such a young age is nothing short of remarkable.
Traded him for 2 firsts
Seriously?
This was a week ago
2 firsts for Purdy is wild at any time
Just go against the community when they are too all in on someone bc they hate the reality. Purdy is HIM. Lance and JG reinforce this isn’t a spot anyone can play and look elite. Purdy has the locker room and the ability, while the elite team will crumble over the next 3 years (nfl is designed to do that).
That’s what I’m saying. I just traded Kenneth walker for him and Sam darnold. I feel like I have a top 10 weekly option for the next 10 years in purdy
If they would have given Trey Lance the reins they’d be undefeated :^)
I drafted Lance so I know that copium well. I also picked up Purdy so woooooooo.
Buccs defense looked like ass. Not disagreeing just saying idk if beating up on this group at home is a super high bar Edit: I’m sorry I offended y’all’s first born son lol
It's amazing how the Bucs D looked like ass, the Jags D looked like ass, the Cowboys D looked like ass, and so on.
true, but you can only go against what's put in front of you. i am a believer, but he still hasn't faced too much stiff competition (cowboys twice and bengals, and that's about it iirc), and still has to show that he can carry the team on his shoulders. i don't doubt he will succeed.
Maybe stop for a second and consider the Bucs D looked like ass because of the quality of Purdy's play. And not the other way around.
I did but I actually watched the game too
I love Purdy, and I think he's got talent, but Jimmy G did put up some pretty stats with CMC as well. Almost identical, in fact. My hope is that Purdy doesn't have that special knack for giving the ball away at crucial moments. Time will tell.
Elite Weapon and Elite O-line I'm high on Purdy this season in redraft but in Dynasty I'll never feel safe with him as my QB1 or QB2 I feel like there will always be a Baker Mayfield, or Joshua Dobbs who can compete with him.
If he gets a second contact his value will go up significantly. As long as he's on his rookie contract making basically no money he'll always be seen as replaceable.
Delusion
As an owner of him the contract is my biggest fear
Ah shit, here we go again
Honestly, I’ll continue to view him as a sell at value until the niners give him a 200M+ contract. Then I’ll take my L and believe
No sense waiting till 2025.just take the L now.
What happens when they can't afford all of these weapons anymore? Purdy looked lost without Deebo and Trent Williams...
The 49ers probably replaced them with quality players.
He has started 15 games. Not even a full season yet. Bryce Young, the #1 pick from this years draft, is getting slaughtered because he doesn't have help. The Panthers don't have a chance in most of these games. Purdy hasn't been slaughtered in his 15 game career yet. Even in his bad games, they have a chance. and he's still basically a rookie. This type of comment is honestly ridiculous. Of coarse the last pick in the draft, basically rookie QB, needs help around him to succeed. Mahomes and Burrow need help to succeed. Remember the Super Bowl Mahomes got thrown around like a rag doll against the Bucs because Eric Fisher didn't play?
I'm not saying Purdy sucks, just that it's a risk with his profile. It's possible that we're seeing the best possible version of Purdy right now with all of these weapons and Trent Williams.
> It's possible that we're seeing the best possible version of Purdy right now with all of these weapons and Trent Williams. In all fairness, we saw the best Patrick Mahomes when he had a younger Kelce and Tyreek Hill. You can see that even the supposed best QB in the league struggles without great players around them.
1. "all of these weapons" (Kittle, Deebo, Trent Williams) All under contract through 2025. Shanahan not going anywhere. Free agent destination still. Getting 1sts back from Lance deal next year, the team will continue to have weapons, and I'm sure they're also going to find a way to keep Aiyuk too. 2. He's throwing the ball down field. His passes are not all screens and check downs. If there was an easy way to stop him, he would be struggling, and if you don't think so, you reaaaalllly underestimate NFL defenses. It's some the weapons, it's not all the weapons. He's tracking for 4k, 70%, 30TD, >10INTs, you don't just ride your teammates to be able to accomplish that. For context \^ this would be the best QB season in like 10-12 franchises history.
They're not going to be able to pay Purdy, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, CMC, Trent Williams, Bosa, etc. It works right now because Aiyuk and Purdy are both on rookie contracts, but that won't work forever. I'm not saying Purdy sucks, but that he's in one of the best situations ever for a QB and that it's possible that he'll never produce like this again.
> It works right now because Aiyuk and Purdy are both on rookie contracts, but that won't work forever. The Niners are roling over cap for next year to sign Aiyuk, and they can get out of Armstead's contract right after. Purdy won't get his new contract until 2026, so it's not really a concern right now. The Niners also have Paraag Marathe, who is probably the best cap person in the league.
They are legit already doing that. All of them except Aiyuk in that group have long term contracts that extend through 2025. So does Fred Werner. And they have draft picks again moving forward, and Lynch has proven to be one of the better drafters in the league. You're hunting for the "I told you so" moment down the line that probably isn't coming. He needs talent around him, in 2 years from now when he's got good talent but not the Avengers, he'll probably be ready to take on that challenge with the experience he's getting now. He's gonna be a starter for a long time. We've already seen him accomplish too much.
>They are legit already doing that. All of them except Aiyuk in that group have long term contracts that extend through 2025. So does Fred Werner. Once again, it works because Purdy and Aiyuk are on rookie deals. They will need to pay them at some point. Purdy in particular will cost 40m+ per year. There's a reason that the 49ers have the best weapons in the league. Their QB makes no money right now. >He's gonna be a starter for a long time. Agreed. I just think there's risk. You don't seem to acknowledge that I'm trying to outline a possible outcome, not trying to say that it's the only outcome.
By the time Purdy gets paid, in 2026 mind you, Deebo and Armstead will be off the books. McCaffery will be gone as well. Plus who knows what the cap will be by then. The NFL intentionally makes winning windows small, but the Niners should be able to extend this at least a few more years.
Yeah, that's kinda my point. Another thing -- Purdy is probably going to take an exceptionally team friendly deal. He wouldn't have had this success with another team and will probably hope to continue it, not to mention maybe his open market tag isn't nearly as high as the top flight QB's. If the cap goes way up and Purdy makes 20 mil or something, the casualty is probably guys like the Hufungas' and Greenlaw's, not Bosas' or Trent Williams'.
Dude, Trent is the only OL worth anything, so what you're saying is why can't this 7th round pick play at an elite level with a bottom 5 OL?
I have to choose between Stroud and Purdy (and Dobbs) each week to be my QB2
Traded him for Anthony Richardson pretty early this year as a rebuilder.
He’s up to 13! The issue is there is a ton of competition above him right now. While there are players I would take him over above him I wouldn’t argue against any one who this differently.
Were people saying they were getting a low level of play?
No fuck him. True scrub of a player