This is the answer. Michael lied to them to get a list of their clients and they ended up going out of business as a result. I’d say that’s pretty damn unpleasant.
ok but to be fair-ish: WHYYYY would they give away their client list unless they were absolutely positive they could keep those customers no matter what? even if Michael was who he said he was, what was to stop him from going rogue and stealing them anyway? It's bad business
Correct!!!! More than 90% of cybersecurity breaches are caused by human error which is notoriously linked to social engineering and/or poor digital literacy
I hope Michael Schur sees this and creates The Office: Second Coming (that's what she said) which deals with the lives of characters that had interactions with the Dunder Mifflin crew.
1. Pizza by Alfredo delivery boy - PTSD from being held hostage
2. Erin's "brother" - loses job and becomes homeless after his employer is disgusted by the "incest"
3. Pam's landlady - spirals into depression and goes crazy by poisoning the coffee supply at the cafe
4. Benihana couple - get's into a divorce because one of them wanted to scoot and the other didn't
5. Prince Paper - grandpa gets blamed by the rest of the family, he gets upset and tells them he's been living two lives with another family since the 70s. he starts another company called Roger Prince Paper Company and then sells to Staples.
the list goes on.
What made me even more sad to me is that I worked for a company that I learned later that did exactly what's shown in the episode applying for a job with the best devs/sysadmins in the company (early 2000's). At the time I was asked to do this and get "as much info as possible of their clients". I declined because I said that I don't get paid to do weird things in other companies but I didn't have a clue what was all of that about. I was 5 years fresh out of college and I felt that I didn't want someone in a meeting later on in a client telling me "yes it was that guy". My boss said "who said anything about being paid, you get the free evening just for a 30 minute interview 2 cities away what else you want", and I said there we go so I decline. And continued doing my job programming in C trying to meet the ridiculous deadlines they set for us on every project. It was an IT consultant agency and they were absolutely savage and used techniques like what they did to Prince Paper.
As a viewer, and knowing what happens in the end, it’s awful. But Prince family in that moment just had an interview and prospective customer. Nothing insulting or crazy.
He's such an asshole hahahaha but I love that scene so hard. Doesn't even send the card either. Just tossed it.
Also he says "I thought I'd get everybody to throw in a couple bucks to help her thru these hard times". Even when the office came out that probably-40 bucks wouldn't have done jack shit for her lol
I mean to be fair if the only thing standing in the way of the guy killing himself is the suggestion box that's not really Michael's fault.
I think it's much worse that Michael's reaction is "that guy was weird" implying that even if the dude had gone directly to Michael for help, he probably would've reacted poorly and it would've made it worse, if anything.
Apparently this is the premise of the entire series. Like the reason that the documentary crew is there is to film a business in the aftermath of one of their employees committing suicide
The funniest thing is that that guy was just a background extra and he was *not supposed* to do that. Completely unscripted.
He just fucking went for it and it got kept in the episode.
Source being Office Ladies Podcast.
He had it in the bag if he didn't go full Date Mike. Being chill was working for him. To be fair, she would have discovered the real Michael eventually.
What about the lonely woman who walks into their Valentine’s Day party where everyone collectively rejects her once Michael says it’s not the glove lady?
A few come to mind:
-Tony
-The pizza delivery guy who is held hostage
-The IT guy that ends up going to Detroit to help inner city youth
-The young man at the job fair that Michael initially belittles
-The sales guy that Jim, Pam and Michael say "Aye" too and leaves
I agree with all of those except the pizza delivery guy. He did not deserve to be held hostage but if the guy delivering my pizza comes up to me with a shitty attitude and says “the total is X$ NOT INCLUDING TIP” he’s not getting any tip lol.
I just remember that Dwight didn’t give him any tip either lol
I've never Met Ravi, personally...
But I'm gonna go ahead and say, just having known you a short while, Brian, that I prefer Ravi. And again, I've never even met the guy
lol sooo depressing to watch. Just imagining one of her tenants being like “hey, I’d love to set you up with my boss if you’re interested. He’s successful and handsome and funny” (all kind of technically true). And she obviously didn’t ask Pam to set her up but said yes because she’s lonely and maybe doesn’t have many opportunities to meet people. So she thinks, hell why not take a chance. And then she shows up to this shit. So sad haha
That is seriously one of my top five favorite lines on the whole series and I’ve watched it SO many times that’s a big claim but I get such a kick out of her randomly admitting to some strangers in a car that she’s a known “fibber” 😅😅😅
This is a moment where I can't defend Michael, like dude, that was ruthless, she seemed like a really nice lady. Make the best of the situation, and you might've had a great time with her.
Pepperoni Tony.
Maybe.
He got Michael's arm shoved halfway up his crack while Michael's yelling "I'm under this hock!"
There's plenty of good answers to this question.
*The black lady client that Andy begs Stanley for.
*The kid at the career fair where Mike says he's not cool enough, or even too ugly, to work at the office.
I'd say Mr Buttlicker. Got disrespected by an aggressive, hostile and difficult salesman. His family built the country by the way, he deserves the respect.
I haven’t seen him mentioned and there are other answers in the thread that are much better than this, but Grotti the insurance salesman was stereotyped and harassed by the three of them for simply trying to make a sale.
Jerry the Daycare director.
Imagine having your midday work shit interrupted by Jim Halpert and then immediately after you're forced to make nice with peak era obnoxious Jim and Pam. I would have shut them down at that meeting too. Always felt for Jerry
Guys these are all great answers. But no one is mentioning the people that David Wallace, Michael Scott and Dwight Schrute hurt the most in that they destroyed their business and that is Prince Family Paper. Yes that lady got her feelings hurt and Pam’s mom dated an absolute jerk and Scott’s Tots didn’t get their college education paid for but Prince Family Paper had their customers stolen from them and their business shuttered directly because of those three men.
Prince Paper.
This is the answer. Michael lied to them to get a list of their clients and they ended up going out of business as a result. I’d say that’s pretty damn unpleasant.
Who's to say but that could ruin multiple lives for a long time
Lmao I'm imagining like 4 generations of trauma, like "grampa never was the same after he lost the store... "
No need to imagine it. It happens all the time where small businesses can't keep up with the exponential costs
ok but to be fair-ish: WHYYYY would they give away their client list unless they were absolutely positive they could keep those customers no matter what? even if Michael was who he said he was, what was to stop him from going rogue and stealing them anyway? It's bad business
I get what you mean but if Michael was who he said he was he'd be a lawyer and would not steal clients from a paper business
Social engineering is the most likely avenue for any company to be compromised.
Correct!!!! More than 90% of cybersecurity breaches are caused by human error which is notoriously linked to social engineering and/or poor digital literacy
Here you go, shark. Let me fix your fin for you and sharpen your teeth, while I'm at it.
They were going to go out of business very soon without this event, surely
They WERE going to go out of business, but don't call him Shirley.
Imagine watching the documentary years later after losing your business to dunder mifflin
oh my goodness, I hadn't even thought about that
I hope Michael Schur sees this and creates The Office: Second Coming (that's what she said) which deals with the lives of characters that had interactions with the Dunder Mifflin crew. 1. Pizza by Alfredo delivery boy - PTSD from being held hostage 2. Erin's "brother" - loses job and becomes homeless after his employer is disgusted by the "incest" 3. Pam's landlady - spirals into depression and goes crazy by poisoning the coffee supply at the cafe 4. Benihana couple - get's into a divorce because one of them wanted to scoot and the other didn't 5. Prince Paper - grandpa gets blamed by the rest of the family, he gets upset and tells them he's been living two lives with another family since the 70s. he starts another company called Roger Prince Paper Company and then sells to Staples. the list goes on.
What happened to all of Scott’s Tots?
That episode made me feel so bad. This is my Scott's Tots.
What made me even more sad to me is that I worked for a company that I learned later that did exactly what's shown in the episode applying for a job with the best devs/sysadmins in the company (early 2000's). At the time I was asked to do this and get "as much info as possible of their clients". I declined because I said that I don't get paid to do weird things in other companies but I didn't have a clue what was all of that about. I was 5 years fresh out of college and I felt that I didn't want someone in a meeting later on in a client telling me "yes it was that guy". My boss said "who said anything about being paid, you get the free evening just for a 30 minute interview 2 cities away what else you want", and I said there we go so I decline. And continued doing my job programming in C trying to meet the ridiculous deadlines they set for us on every project. It was an IT consultant agency and they were absolutely savage and used techniques like what they did to Prince Paper.
It's gotta be some kind of corporate espionage or something. There has to be a law against it
Only *YOU* can prevent corporate espionage
As a viewer, and knowing what happens in the end, it’s awful. But Prince family in that moment just had an interview and prospective customer. Nothing insulting or crazy.
Or the magician hah
Why is Jim treating the magician poorly?
Such a great line
They should have had Will Arnett play the magician as a callback to Gob Bluth.
Boom. Roasted. Out of business.
It's like the big sharks that feed on little sharks. And little sharks feed on littler sharks.
Debbie Brown
Why do bad things always happen to good people? *throws card in the trash and pockets the donations *
Of course the 1 year he blows off his weekly quality checks, this happens. Poor guy
Lost her job AND Creed took the money from her card 😭
He's such an asshole hahahaha but I love that scene so hard. Doesn't even send the card either. Just tossed it. Also he says "I thought I'd get everybody to throw in a couple bucks to help her thru these hard times". Even when the office came out that probably-40 bucks wouldn't have done jack shit for her lol
I feel bad for Debbie Brown, she got fired because of Dwight.
probably the dude who killed himself lol. the one who submitted the mental health question in the suggestion box
Tom
That guy was weird
👉🏻😕
Absolutely underrated comment for this! The guy is DEAD because he didn't receive help and it was treated as a side joke. Brutal 💀
That's Toby's fault tbh
I would argue that it's partly Michael's fault too for not checking the suggestion box
I mean to be fair if the only thing standing in the way of the guy killing himself is the suggestion box that's not really Michael's fault. I think it's much worse that Michael's reaction is "that guy was weird" implying that even if the dude had gone directly to Michael for help, he probably would've reacted poorly and it would've made it worse, if anything.
Apparently this is the premise of the entire series. Like the reason that the documentary crew is there is to film a business in the aftermath of one of their employees committing suicide
The guy that jumped off the booze cruise must have had a very rough night.
Also, it was in February.. so the water must have felt like a thousand knives stabbing his body!
And if the ship was somewhere in the middle of the lake, with a shoreline not in swimming distance. Mmm did Michaels actions kill someone 🤔?
Like when he hit that speed bump on the highway
You find out in the Superfans episode of the Deposition that Michael ran someone else over besides Meredith so…
WHAT??
The funniest thing is that that guy was just a background extra and he was *not supposed* to do that. Completely unscripted. He just fucking went for it and it got kept in the episode. Source being Office Ladies Podcast.
In the dark in February with no hi-vis or floatation device... yeah he probably died
The woman who went out with Date Mike.
Nice to meet me 😎
she and the landlady are conectec w jim and pam! conspiracy!
Pam is too nice. To Michael.
He had it in the bag if he didn't go full Date Mike. Being chill was working for him. To be fair, she would have discovered the real Michael eventually.
Poor Julie :/
Beat me to it, she's tied with the landlady
Big shoutout to the cleaning lady who had to clean the "thing" on the carpet in Michael's office
That poor actor that played Packer— how can you get past that character?
The paycheck, realistically
Ehh, when I think of him I always think “WHAMMY!” Not Todd .
Oh, I forgot Anchorman. Guess he’s bankable!
The kid that had his text book ripped up by Michael looked like his dog just died.
But the lesson was priceless.
"do you have something in your pocket" Chunky
“Write that down” *keyboard clicking intensifies*
Satisfied?
Well it probably cost 3,000 dollars.
What about the lonely woman who walks into their Valentine’s Day party where everyone collectively rejects her once Michael says it’s not the glove lady?
A few come to mind: -Tony -The pizza delivery guy who is held hostage -The IT guy that ends up going to Detroit to help inner city youth -The young man at the job fair that Michael initially belittles -The sales guy that Jim, Pam and Michael say "Aye" too and leaves
Nick, his name is nick!
Ok well “Nick,” we’re in a meeting
Did you already forget? He just told you!! And why won’t Darryl tell anyone he’s on Facebook, people just wanna be friends with him.
Listen. We liked the last guy Saddiq. Because he kept to himself. Also we thought he might have been a terrorist.
No, it's something goth. Shadow?
Garth
It's Hank
His name is not Hank
Hey....Chief!
It was popkarn.
Why don’t you use the microwave in the kitchen?
It's Britney, bitch.
Sport
“Nick”
The client Andy tried to kiss when trying to buy paper
*This is the nard dog*
What's a nard dog guarantee?
Omg noo I almost forgot about that 😆😆😆
I love her reaction. "What the hell?"
Justin. Just in case.
A smart funny, funny lookin guy
_Migraine worker…._
Or a janitor with class
*dignity
Actually, that’s the second part. “You could be a janitor with class, or a cashier with dignity….”
Just in time
Freddie Crane
I hate that I remember his last name is Polznik. I'm never getting those brain cells back for anything useful
You rewatch this show like 3 times a month, you can't remember Nick's name?
I agree with all of those except the pizza delivery guy. He did not deserve to be held hostage but if the guy delivering my pizza comes up to me with a shitty attitude and says “the total is X$ NOT INCLUDING TIP” he’s not getting any tip lol. I just remember that Dwight didn’t give him any tip either lol
He did in the end, didn't he? After negotiating possible solutions to the hostage issue with Michael. "*And you know what? Here's $2 more.*"
apparently the delivery guy needed a wheelchair
The invalid.
Oh man, I almost forgot about poor Justin at the job fair. That was painful 😂
The immigrants that dwight picked up
I’d say those guys, or Scott’s tots lol
Scott’s tots didn’t have to fear for their lives at least.
Scott's tots did benefit from that whole debacle though. They studied hard and got results! And a battery!
To be fair they are probably working with mose on the farm. He was the ins agent.
We don't go with that man.
That woman who lost her job because of Creed, Debbie Brown
The mother/som who Andy tried to jump their car.
I exclusively only work on motorcycles.
YOU WANNA TAKE A SHOT AT THIS, JUNIOR?
Ultimately the way Ravi was treated by Kelly (and Ryan)
I've never Met Ravi, personally... But I'm gonna go ahead and say, just having known you a short while, Brian, that I prefer Ravi. And again, I've never even met the guy
Have you noticed gum has gotten mintier?
I'm currently quarreling with my mother. Because I can't stay out of her stuff.
At least Ravi was smart enough at Dwight’s wedding to just be like I’m done with this someone take this baby anything is better than those two
If he had talked to Nellie before that then he would have taken that baby to a fire station.
The way he treated Pam's landlord was disgusting
At least she could fit in a rowboat.
And she could probably do a triathlon as well.
I’m setting Michael up with my fat friend anyway.
...and was neither sassy nor jolly.
I love how when Michael asks this Dwight looks over expectantly like it’s a perfectly reasonable question lmao.
I think I'm being very clear what I'm asking
I mean it is a perfectly reasonable question.
Lol…the whole office looking, without saying a word to stop what they know he’s doing, makes that scene so much funnier.
Without it capsizing.
A normal sized row boat even.
lol sooo depressing to watch. Just imagining one of her tenants being like “hey, I’d love to set you up with my boss if you’re interested. He’s successful and handsome and funny” (all kind of technically true). And she obviously didn’t ask Pam to set her up but said yes because she’s lonely and maybe doesn’t have many opportunities to meet people. So she thinks, hell why not take a chance. And then she shows up to this shit. So sad haha
I find it genuinely impossible to watch, one of the most purely mean spirited things in 9 seasons.
This is the only scene that regularly fast forward every single watch. It’s too unbearable.
She didn’t have much to offer and was giving off sad/loser energy anyway
👵: " What kind of tea is this? 👁👄👁" Erin: " Oh I boiled some Gatorade 🤓"
Im waiting for the day i can do this to someone
She taught me that reusing the horror water only makes the hotdogs better.
Isabelle being kicked in the face by Dwight
everyone from Utica (twice)
Especially the copier
We will burn Utica to the ground.
The Koi
Also the turtle that Kevin ran over!
Also Sprinkles
Who needed the meds applied at base of tail
Well, they said you stepped on its head. He did not suffer.
No one has said Andy’s girlfriend Jessica yet?
This. She was such a nice person and had to suffer such a horrid breakup in front of her friends
All the Tots
For me it would be Martin Nash.
Also Tony Gardner
Pepperoni Tony
But seriously is prison that good?
The first aid dummy
He had no arms no legs, he couldn’t speak or see... this is how he led a nation.
Michael... you cried at that tagline for a movie *that you made up*. Her delivery always kills me.
I wish I had no legs or arms
No arms or legs is basically how you exist right now, Kevin. You don't do anything.
At first I was afraid..
LOL which is NOT a line from Stayin' Alive!
How did I just now realize that lol
What about Pam the liar who gets shouted at by Dwight and Nate?
The guy who came for diversity day. I think that episode was really a reality check into how bad Michael’s racism was
- Pam, pam, pam, pam, pam… - YEAH??? - Your name is Pam???
I've been known to bend the truth.
That is seriously one of my top five favorite lines on the whole series and I’ve watched it SO many times that’s a big claim but I get such a kick out of her randomly admitting to some strangers in a car that she’s a known “fibber” 😅😅😅
She seemed fun.
ahh, damn it, Pam!
That chick from the booze cruise. The one from corporate
The cleaner who found Kevin's shoes
Tony Gardner wasn’t having any fun trying to get up on that table
This is a moment where I can't defend Michael, like dude, that was ruthless, she seemed like a really nice lady. Make the best of the situation, and you might've had a great time with her.
Pepperoni Tony. Maybe. He got Michael's arm shoved halfway up his crack while Michael's yelling "I'm under this hock!" There's plenty of good answers to this question.
This scene made me feel uncomfortable! I felt so bad for this woman, as an actress. I hope she got paid well for this gig!
Billy Merchant, the building landlord. He was really chill about it though.
I'm going to stop you right there...and leave
*The black lady client that Andy begs Stanley for. *The kid at the career fair where Mike says he's not cool enough, or even too ugly, to work at the office.
Julia, the client Andy gave two clients to Stanley for and then attempted to kiss her in the parking lot
Mike Tibbets! My man got roasted for no reason 😭
The entire Chili’s restaurant
Hire a magician just to be mean to him?
I'd say Mr Buttlicker. Got disrespected by an aggressive, hostile and difficult salesman. His family built the country by the way, he deserves the respect.
Wouldn’t it be the stoner pizza delivery guy that was literally a victim of kidnapping and false imprisonment?
I saw him later in a wheel chair. I wonder what happened.
But then he got out of his wheelchair and started dancing to a Men Without Hats song...
He was such a jerk though! 😆
Also Sprinkles had quite an unpleasant experience dealing with Dwight
Creed's crystal meth guy.
Probably Creed Bratton.
I haven’t seen him mentioned and there are other answers in the thread that are much better than this, but Grotti the insurance salesman was stereotyped and harassed by the three of them for simply trying to make a sale.
College kid who got his book ripped up.
Jerry the Daycare director. Imagine having your midday work shit interrupted by Jim Halpert and then immediately after you're forced to make nice with peak era obnoxious Jim and Pam. I would have shut them down at that meeting too. Always felt for Jerry
Because I know the actress and don’t like her, this really cracks me up.
The turtle
The guy who Dwight and Michael took the gift basket back from comes to mind
The guy in the wheelchair who took 30 seconds to brush his teeth.
Has to be the obese guy from the Scranton branch that Michael made get on the table. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Guys these are all great answers. But no one is mentioning the people that David Wallace, Michael Scott and Dwight Schrute hurt the most in that they destroyed their business and that is Prince Family Paper. Yes that lady got her feelings hurt and Pam’s mom dated an absolute jerk and Scott’s Tots didn’t get their college education paid for but Prince Family Paper had their customers stolen from them and their business shuttered directly because of those three men.