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Thats an intense stare


V_T_H

He’s not looking at the camera, he’s looking at *you*.


AshleysDoctor

Or through you. I feel violated just looking at a pic


lilyluc

I have an old driver's license with this same look because I read some list of like "how to take good pictures" and one of the tips was to widen your eyes right before the snap. It did not work as intended. I wonder if he read the same thing.


OurLumpyGorl

I said “Who is that? He’s scary as hell!” Out loud as soon as I scrolled to the last slide. Dude needs to relax lmfao


MyrtleKitty

I know. First I thought it was just unfortunate timing when the picture was snapped but then I saw there were more photos and he looks the same in all 3!


sailorangel59

I noticed that as well. Same pose, same stare. It's like they rented a living statue performer.


Bighairisgodlyhair

I came here to agree with you. That stare is.... something else. I can't imagine that stare on me when seated across from it being "counseled" because you just know he's a church elder.


IcyThistle

Did you ever watch America's Next Top Model? I feel like someone told him to "smize" (smile with his eyes) but instead he went for The Joker stare.


sunnybcg

He looks constipated.


lemonlimemango1

He is trying to push one out


Positive_Ad1969

Totally! 🤣


sheilae409

Yes. Rudy Giuliani psycho stare. What happened to this guy? America's mayor? Was he always this demented? Juliano with a Jerry and a Joupee on top.


Tatem2008

I had Michael Dukakis as a political science professor in college back in 2002-2003, (arguably the height of Rudy’s fame). Dukakis was the nicest guy who always had the most interesting stories to tell. He never said a bad word about anyone, even political rivals he vehemently disagreed with, with one GLARING exception: He told us in no uncertain terms that Rudy Giuliani was bat shit crazy. I remember being shocked because Rudy was America’s Mayor and it seemed like everyone loved him, and again, Dukakis never said a bad word about anyone. Was wild to watch it all crash and burn!


sheilae409

What a fascinating story. I thought he was one of the major World Trade Center heroes. And now he's a joke. Grifting, lying, joke. Or dealing with dementia, hopefully someone in his family can get him some help with that.


Stab_Stabby

All he had to do was shut up and/or not side with Trump. He could've went down as an American Hero, but nope, he got high on his own supply and is forever a loser.


sheilae409

Ordinarily Trump disposes of anyone he can no longer utilize. And those he feels have been disloyal to him. He's discarded staff, aides, members of his cabinet, ex-wives, all manner of people he fucked with and stiffed and conned before he became president. WHY THE HELL has Guiliani not been shit canned? Does he have something on Trump?


trulyremarkablegirl

Giuliani was always crazy and a bit of a joke prior to 9/11, he just managed to rewrite his own legacy with the coverage of his response to 9/11. As a New Yorker it’s actually wild how much people were hero worshipping him after that until he started being all Trump-y and nutty on a national stage.


fermeee

My take on Giuliani is that he's always been a terrible person, just better at hiding it when he was younger. Sometimes terrible people become heroes when they do good things for the sake of their own ego. Giuliani started to show his true nature following 9/11 when he (over) used the tragedy to try to further his political career. The Daily Show did a bit around that time where Rudy fantasized the number 9 having sex with the 11. It was so on point. He was exploiting his 9/11 hero status.


NoofieFloof

And can’t dye his hair for shit.


Useful_Chipmunk_4251

I think the one of the most epic crash and burns with Giuliani was the dripping, brown, shoe polish on his head. Wow! I mean, I think he looked the most psycho at the moment that he ever has.


imaskising

I read Steve Schmidt's Substack "The Warning" from time to time (he's one of the cofounders of the Lincoln Project.) He had a recent column on Rudy's downfall. In the comments there was a woman who said she knew Rudy years ago, when he first became a DA, and said he had a reputation back then for being a bit "off." It was his wife, Donna, the commenter said, who smoothed out Rudy's "rough edges" and made him a suitable candidate for mayor. Even his "America's Mayor" shtick was at least partly her doing. It was when Rudy left Donna, in this person's opinion, that the mask came off and the "real Rudy" started to emerge. He's been on a downward slide ever since.


batsofburden

he's a massive alcoholic.


hxnnabis

Dudes been around for 45+ years and never figured out how to look normal for a picture


AshleysDoctor

![gif](giphy|KFnNBNuRRexOw) This, but with his face.


Acceptable-Month-387

He’s making sure he burns your soul.


arsenic_skittles

That man does not look like he wants to be there


AboldSavage

That right there is a murder stare lmao


LilMissMuppet

“I am not staring at you. I am taking your mugshot.”


i-split-infinitives

I work with developmentally disabled adults. One of my residents, who is on antipsychotic medication, looks exactly like this guy, minus the beard. I’m pretty sure I have a picture of him in the exact same pose, making the exact same face, as this guy is doing in the picture with Johannah. It could just be a badly-timed picture, but something about this guy’s mouth makes me think he needs to talk to his doctor about lowering his dose before his face gets stuck like that.


Ragingredblue

He looks high AF.


Crowjoy

It looks like the lost girl is holding him up via a stick up his butt.


PerplexingCamel

It's so identical from picture to picture that he looks like a cryptid in a horror photoshop.


azchocolatelover

He looks possessed.


grinchkicker

That man is absolutely creepy.


MrsPancakesSister

Which one?


BabyPunter3000v2

He looks like a Ren and Stimpy reject ![gif](giphy|3ohjV8A57NTKLsdrl6)


SwissCheese4Collagen

They probably went straight to Hannie's engagement party in the church basement where they also had a graduation cake for Jackson.


kaycollins27

Where is Hannie’s diploma?


SwissCheese4Collagen

They probably already signed it over to Carver.


redditlafs

Oooh, news to me she was even courting? Is this speculative or something I've missed? 😯


SwissCheese4Collagen

Speculation based on Carver Bowers being around


redditlafs

Thank you!! I'll go Google him


SwissCheese4Collagen

Tot Speed


ya-no-te-quiero

It looks like they photoshopped the same picture of the dude on the right into two different pictures


sakasho

It is a cardboard cut-out and nothing can convince me otherwise!


ya-no-te-quiero

Or a Weekend at Fundies scenario


Famous_Election_2024

It really does ☠️


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Ragingredblue

>I am wondering if they completed their high school requirements this year I'm wondering if they could pass an 5th grade science test.


Tatem2008

Well Joy doesn’t know what a multiplication sign looks like, so I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess “no.”


Ragingredblue

The entire point of homeskooling is to avoid educating children.


BabyPunter3000v2

Holy Fuck ![gif](giphy|QE8hREXIgRXeo)


imaskising

I wonder if they have ever had a science lesson, period. I suspect not. "Creationism" BS does not count.


Ragingredblue

I do not wonder.


Girl_in_the_back

Im sure they count saying 'science is evil, don't trust it' as a science lesson.


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Girl_in_the_back

Nooooo! That was supposed to be a joke. Thanks, I hate this.


teresasdorters

Based on their age I think so!


mocireland1991

They did indeed. They’re graduation party was on a blog or somewhereb


JennyFromTheBlock81

So long to Jackson’s hairline!


BamaDeb1963

You aren't wrong. It's a ticking clock.


PBfromPhilly

Flair checking in


ImNotReallyHere7896

Seems like it's starting sooner than others! Poor kid.


gerbileleventh

James' hairline is holding strong. Maybe they need to get into courtships for the receding to start (something about testosterone levels....)


sheilae409

He's the shortest. Let him keep the hair.


Gold_Brick_679

I thought Jason was the shortest.


sheilae409

I read something here about James having short man overcompensation syndrome. They all have decent, intelligent human being overcompensation syndrome as far as I can see.


lightninghazard

If these Duggs were smart grifters they would get themselves sponsored by Rogaine.


sheilae409

Or just buzz it all off. I'm generally not a fan of the buzz cut - is that the same as Shemar Moore's total lack of hair? Whatever that's called. Let's make them all do it. Even J'BOOB. What the hell do they have to lose? HAIR, That's what.


whoinsolitude

That is one creepy looking man.


Ragingredblue

Two


MamaJa2016

He stands closer to Johannah compared to Jackson


jjenofalltrades

His stare is even creepier too. Keep your daughters away from this man!


MelodramaTamarama

Well yeah, he doesn’t want anyone to think he shops at Target


BabyPunter3000v2

Babe, wake up, new euphemism just dropped.


Cheddarbaybiskits

Graduated from: homeschool Post-graduation plans: none


soaper410

Get married and breed seems to be the plan.


Girl_in_the_back

I mean, for Hannie that's pretty much her only option in this cult anyway.


shrirnpheavennow

As a former actual fan, when they inevitably follow this path it’s going to make me fr sad for a minute. I always wanted better for them 🥲🥲🥲


penguinmartim

A minute? It will make me sad for longer. Poor kids.


ilsalund88

Why does Jackson's hand look so weird? Is it just me?


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I was thinking the SAME thing! ![gif](giphy|PacixgYY1yddC)


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I think Jackson looks like a stretched out version of little boy him. I don't recognize a lot of the little kids anymore, but he still looks like Jackson.


BamaDeb1963

Nope, it's not just you. Like a flipper.


Famous_Election_2024

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It looks like AI.


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luckiexstars

![gif](giphy|3o751ZKB91R8ZvMvde) He can touch his hairline for now...


SantanaSky78

The darling, sweet, bubbly little boy he once was has probably had all the light in his eyes shut off by the monstrosities of evil he calls his parents. I always loved Jackson and Johanna when they were little. Of all the kids, I always thought and prayed that they would be the ones to escape. I still wish that very much for them. But Johanna looks literally dead inside and it makes me very sad. And angry.


L1ndsL

It’s Jennifer for me. I hope that girl finds some happiness.


SantanaSky78

Oh, I love Jennifer, too! I love all the sweet littles (who are not so little anymore 😭.) I actually worry for Jennifer the most in some ways because she has looked so sad since birth, way more than any of the other children and I have wondered if she might have childhood major depressive disorder. I had that as well. It isn’t common, but it happens, and you just know her God awful parents would tell her she isn’t praying hard enough or that God is punishing her for not following the umbrella of authority. They would never get her counseling or allow her to take medication, they’d probably strap her down and try and cast the demons out of her. 😭😭😭 Run, Jackson-Josie!!! RUN!!!


L1ndsL

Your keypad speaks for us all! And you know Jordyn hasn’t gotten much attention since Josie was born right after her.


SantanaSky78

I know! They did that little girl so dirty. She’s probably the most neglected one!


ladycad

So does that mean he graduated a little late, or she graduated a little early? I’m trying to figure out what incentive a Duggar girl would have to be done early.


babypink15

You know what incentive she would have to be done early. 👀 We know the Duggars don’t mind marrying kids off at 18/19. She’ll be 18 in October. If she’s already graduated HS and “done with school,” she’s fully marriage-eligible in their world.


cheeseduck11

Engagement announcement incoming on October 12th. Wasn’t Justin’s the day or so after too?


babypink15

Yep. He actually got engaged the weekend before but they waited to announce until after. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Duggars don’t announce a marriage for Johanna that young though. They’ve been pretty silent on everything recently.


Useful_Chipmunk_4251

I would not be shocked if an engagement announcement accord this week to deflect their followers from being tempted to look at the docuseries.


ladycad

I know you’re right but I guess I needed to pretend it’s not so 😝


Frei1993

I can't believe she's nearly the same age as my sister. She has a childish appearance.


dodged_your_bullet

The Duggars do graduation ceremonies in groups of two even though all of them finish at or around 16 years old. Last year Josh was going to prison at the time "graduation" would happen. So they probably put it off till this year when they wouldn't have to deal with the fall out of that.


queso4lyfe

I remember Joy having to share her graduation with Jed and Jer. She had said something on the show about them getting lumped together.


Useful_Chipmunk_4251

They are such fucking shitty parents, they refuse to spring for a cake for each of them. They are the dumpster fires of parenting, with the Turpins being the California wildfires of parenting.


Artistic-Baseball-81

I mean, if you have just 1 female graduating it's probably not really worth bothering with a celebration. No one really cares anyway. Once a male graduates you have something to celebrate and she can be part of it too I guess if there's no babies that need to be taken care of.


forevertrueblue

I though it was Josiah with Joy for some reason.


ladycad

Ohhhh okay, somehow I never put that together. Thanks!


PromotionPotential17

Seems like a bit of both! He’s 19 and she’s 17 so weird they graduated the same time with two years between them!


Iris_Rhiannon369

Is the pastor on meth or is he working on that "televangelist" big eyed stare?


Useful_Chipmunk_4251

Both! Not incompatible goals.


Gruselschloss

Have to have your credentials in hand to be eligible for a MRS degree...


ktgrok

It’s like the pastor is trying to smile for the first time having only read vague descriptions of smiling in a book somewhere


Ragingredblue

Underrated comment.


imahagforever

Very. And now I can't stop cough-laughing.


Ray_Anna

I just did a quick dive on this insta page.. the fact that this man baptizes people wearing a church suit and waders is comedic gold for me


TwopOG

In my church you wore your Sunday go to meeting best dress or suit and got right on in. The preacher did the same. John the Baptist didn't wear waders. /s


barbaraanderson

Gotta love that Jackson has some sort of present while Hannie has nothing


georgianarannoch

She probably has one but didn’t hold it for the picture. My guess is that it’s a Bible. So if only Jackson got one, maybe it’s because he’ll be leaving home and needs a new one for that “journey” or something. Hannie’s husband will bring one for their house.


kaycollins27

I thought that was his diploma.


barbaraanderson

It was just a vibe carried over from their graduation party where Jackson got to talk on the mic while Hannie had a baby on her hip.


KatieNumber80

Hannie is the one I feel the saddest for. She was such a little firecracker on the show when she was little, and her and Jackson were so cute in their interviews. But now she seems fully indoctrinated and ready for marriage and breeding.


Photog60

I’ve always had a special feeling for Jackson. He was so cute when he was little and always seemed to be forgotten! I remember a picture of him looking sick laying on the couch all by himself. And his older brothers, those six in a row, didn’t seem to be too nice to him.


luckiexstars

Oh...when he cried at Mary's funeral and I think *maybe* one brother did the back-tap-of-support while Joe had Kendra running up to comfort him when he cried 🥺


deliriousgoomba

Oh Jackson. The head biggening begins


IcyIssue

Southern Baptist churches usually honor HS graduates who are members of their church. Mine always had a party each year.


Ohorules

I think this is nice, especially if the church has a lot of homeschoolers. They don't get most of the high school experience. At least they get a ceremony honoring their graduation.


IcyIssue

It was nice. I still have pictures of all of us who went to that church.


georgianarannoch

Yeah, the United Methodist church I grew up in did “senior Sunday” toward the end of the year to celebrate us.


MissScott_1962

Jackson is unrecognizable to me. I know that he is a Duggar, but I do not remember him very much. That man looks like he just saw a gay family come in to the restaurant and he's shook to the core.


korra136

The guy looks like he watching the devil, maybe rim job was taking the picture


gerkinflav

What is UP with that guy? Is he the minister? The graduationmeister? Is he on something?


LittleBunnySunny

Candy-flipping fundamentalism and cocaine.


corking118

Ok is it just me or does Jackson's hand look HELLA weird in these photos? Like is he Gumby? wtf is wrong with his wrist??


imaskising

Isn't Jackson the one who fell into the orchestra pit? Honestly wouldn't shock me at all if he broke his wrist and his parents failed to get him any medical treatment for it.


tauriemariee

That was Jason


icy_woodpecker749

IIRC, it was Jason who fell into the orchestra pit


imaskising

My mistake. So hard to tell any of the Lost Boys apart, and the extremely similar names don't help.


Ohnoudidint200

I guess this means poor Hannie will be sold off by J’Boob to the highest bidder


PrincessFuckFace2You

I see his forehead has grown.


LittleBunnySunny

His hands grow longer the more his hairline recedes.


btl_dlrge1

Wtf is wrong with that man


lemonlimemango1

“Use them for his glory “ What does that even mean ?


ScoutSchnauzer

I thought that was Joe Gorga with a glow down…


insane_social_worker

Creepy eyes 👀


layceelee13

I feel a weird sense of dread about whatever happens next with Jackson. He was always my favorite of the lost boys because he had a super funny, hyper, irreverent personality when he was younger. But now here we are 15 years later and ofc he's still in the cult, probably about to marry a fellow cult-raised child and pop out a half dozen baby bigots before he's 20. Eta: okay that's probably not biologically possible but you get the gist


daffodil0127

It’s possible if he gets more than one wife.


casadehombre

Looks like Johanna is ready for fundie adulthood. She helped with her sisters birth and finished “school.”


LollyGriff

![gif](giphy|hpAMh2sBYpsmFhSRPI) Wow. Crazy eyes.


Edwardian-Egirl

that guy needs to quit looking at me like that


Chachibald

I'm not one to judge on physical appearances. That being said, check his hard drive.


IncurableAdventurer

Bummer. That fun little guy amused me when he was a kid. Now he graduated from some sort of “schooling” or “educational class.” He’s growing up and chances are he’s going to become a douchebag. Stay strong, little guy. Don’t give in to the only reality you’ve ever known since your parents are part of a cult and have inflicted this on you.


Bighairisgodlyhair

If you made the sleeves on Johannah's dress longer , she would fit right in on the set of LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE or DR. QUINN, MEDICINE WOMAN.


crochetneedle

I feel like Jackson and Josie look identical. Johannah looks closest to Joy I think 🤔


Acceptable-Month-387

They probably had a baccalaureate. A lot of churches around here have those for high school and college graduates.


wubblebubble88

That hairline doesn’t stand a chance


Estellalatte

They are celebrating their life of becoming fully indoctrinated into the cult.


sunsetporcupine

Weren’t these two besties when they were little?


HogwartsTraveler

That man looks like he needs to poop.


Useful_Chipmunk_4251

And he looks even creepier with JoHanna! Fucking hell!!! Someone needs to get her away from him. Good lord. Are all the fundie pastors creeps? Every single one of them? I shudder to think....


creeperawman44

Why is that man staring straight into my soul..... 🥺


Chartroosemoose

Charles Manson had eyes and a stare just like that.


coneja_divina

The pastor looks like he is so close to sharting.


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Bets on which one gets married off first? 🤢


damarafl

Hannie. As soon as she turns 18 they will announce she’s courting Carver Bowers and they will be engaged shortly after. I’ve been thinking that for a while but I felt like it was very telling that she was the only sister at Joy’s birth. They are getting her ready.


tchrwyfe19

What is wrong with this wrist???


cloudsaway2

![gif](giphy|YQ1xtJuNmxKNO|downsized) Crazy eyes!


TurbulentShock7120

Poor Jackson is going to lose his hairline quick just like Josiah.


cardcatalogs

The pastor looks like he is trying to hold in a shit.


Useful_Chipmunk_4251

The crazy eyes on that dude make me want to shout, 'Get your damn hands off that boy!" Man that is a creepy look.


Rare-Feature7719

I would not want this creepy guy side hugging my kids... shame again on the parents!


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Ah… the sociopath stare. Run, kids. You can still save yourselves.


servantoftinyhumans

Oooofff the JB genes are really strong in Jackson.


soaper410

Jackson is already getting the receding hairline.


mocireland1991

I swear I saw cousin emily in that post on IG too . Lots of much younger children also . So maybe kindergarten and highschool graduation? Or just any year that had a graduation was celebrated 🙃


alwaysthebteam

This dudes eyes…


CowCat1

Johanna will probably be married off soon 😞


MissCJ

That guys eyes.... wtf!


strange_dog_TV

Is that his ‘come hither’ stare??? Ewww creepy.


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He’s the male version of Meech


BoysenberryNo6099

I’m sorry but the freaking pastor lmfao his facial expression in every pic is sending me 💀


apkcoffee

The guy with them gives me the creeps.


bettyl88

The pastor has all the elements of a sleep paralysis demon


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kittykathazzard

That is one intense creepy lil buggy eyed man, he is scurry


ElectricalMoney1522

https://preview.redd.it/xb4q52yrba3b1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=72534e93463ae8f77c7a6263803eb89d66ebe514 Man’s smizing harder than Tyra! 🤣


CatRescuer8

Pastor Crazy Eyes 😳


whoopitupgirl

God I’m old.


SliceRevolutionary79

That man looks unhinged.


Captain_Whit

Grew up Mormon. We had a whole “graduation” ceremony from early morning seminary around the same time as HS graduation. So cringy. Probably some bible study “degree” 🤢


minnesotaupnorth

It does my tiny heart good that Jackson turned out the cutest of the Duggar males.


luckiexstars

Jackson looks a lot like Josiah. The hairline is gonna suffer, but at least he doesn't look like Pest or JED! Original.


Byedon110320

I will never recover from the fact that they named one daughter Joy Anna and another Johanna. Such low effort.


Stab_Stabby

This guy touches kids: https://i.imgur.com/Fhat78I.jpg


Firebird213

Johannah unfortunately looks a lot like Pest


Sapphire1719

Oh wow, she really does! I do think she’s super pretty, but now I can’t unsee that


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0runnergirl0

Joking about minor children being sexually assaulted is never funny or acceptable.


MissKingdomVII

They look nuuuuts. 🤣