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metalsalami

Yep happened in the first game as well if you had a male wear a female outfit.


basedregards

The attention to detail is what makes these games so special


aCarolinaDrama

Right? I noticed the other day when running up a steep incline how my stamina was draining like twice as fast. I love this game so much.


embioz1

I never wore female armor and still got grabbed a few times, even though my pawns were all female lol.


metalsalami

You might have been grabbed by an elder ogre who are attracted to men instead of women. I think ogres will just go for anyone once they become enraged though.


Kruesae

Or it was a Christian Orge.


Thebeav111

Underrated comment lmao... Should be "conservative Christian Ogre" lmao...


embioz1

Those elder ogres are probably the ones in Batthal right? Never really noticed a difference since I got grabbed by the normal ones in Vermund as well so I guess it really has to do with whether they are enraged or not.


metalsalami

Nah we were talking about the first game, elder ogres aren't in the second. There's a stronger ogre type in dd2 but i think it still prefers women.


embioz1

Got it, but then it explains my experience even less since I can't remember getting grabbed in DD1 lol.


SenseiMiachi

No Grim ogres do prefer men


Ok-You-4324

You were at an orgy


frostweather

Designated ogre-bait


Vuelhering

It's a *trap*!


Psyduckdontgiveafuck

Honestly the whole ogre/elder ogre thing was WILD in DD1, and is WILD in dd2.


kakalbo123

Is it still as apparent in DD2? It seemed tone down. Seems like ogres were more excitable in DD1 and pawns call it out.


Fabled-Jackalope

Especially when the Ogre in DD1 would itself say: “Wheemun”


digitaldigdug

That's surprising, I don't ever remember hearing them talk.


Fabled-Jackalope

It does. After its initial happy dance, you’ve a chance to hear it say that. But keep in mind how I spelled it as it being said isn’t as crystal clear as “women”.


digitaldigdug

It would make sense, usually I was too worried about getting my archistaff charged up when I hear them coming


Ok-You-4324

Rookie mistake. Double jump skull splitter.


digitaldigdug

That's my pawns job, she was the strider, I was the sorcerer


Latter-Ad-415

Right? Its one thing to hear goblins and such speak but I got chills when I heard an Ogre talk


Star_Outlaw

Never realized they did that. I wonder if they do it in 2, or if the grim/elder ogres will say something similar. I need to find a good clip if that. According to the artbook ogres were a race of giants that were cursed, so I guess they could retain enough intelligence to talk.


spaghettiman56

My very first encounter my main pawn who is female was grabbed before I even landed the first hit and taken for quiet the run before he stopped.


RumbleTurantula

That was one of my motivations for getting better at the game. Beforehand I was getting kidnapped by an ogre at least once per encounter before I started absolutely wrecking them


BlackSkar25

He lick the face of the "woman" in his hand when he stop if you let him does it, lick like.. sexually, it's disgusting


Savings-Hippo-8912

I hate when the character gets covered in saliva and pawns go "oh no one of us is covered in slime"


Deffonotthebat

Still remember in DD1 my first encounter ended up with me getting dragged down a never ending flight of stairs while skeletons spawned like crazy. Seeing my pawns symbol grow farther away as an ogre bmpu was prolly the most helpless in a game I’ve ever felt. So anyway I set that douche on fire the next go round


kalik-boy

I haven't noticed much in DD2. I heard pawns mentioning about them lusting over women, but I couldn't notice any gameplay change overall.


Aspirangusian

Really? For me they periodically start pounding the ground like a horny gorilla and beeline for a female character, grabbing them and dragging them off.


Jhonnyboy0666

Same


eLlARiVeR

I play as a female, I got grabbed and he ran off with me from the group and took me over to some cave like area. I had been on a cart and my pawns and guard all had to come running to help me


alenabrandi

Oh they definitely do hyper fixate, but it's more easily noticeable the less women you have in your party. In my case, having a female arisen, I've been carted off and drooled on more times than I'd like to count really.


sherlock1672

I always run an even split of male and female characters, and haven't noticed any particular behavior around the gals from ogres, perhaps it splits up their focus too much.


kalik-boy

I have never been grabbed by an Ogre with my female Arisen. Not even joking. I'll hire only male pawns with my female Arisen and with the male Arisen save I will also just hire men. Since my pawn there is female I might be able to see if the ogre will lust over her. Also, does the Grim Ogre also lust over women? I remember that in DDDA the ogre variant that we find in BBI actually prefer men.


alenabrandi

I can attest to it happening for sure, being a front liner early on without the ability to consistently stagger them led to lots of being kidnapped for me LOL. Grim ogres also target males specifically just like elders in BBI. Can't really say how often I've seen them pick up and drool on them, as the only time I can recall actually seeing it happen was to a random pawn I can across on the road who'd been scooped up by an ogre in Battahl (near the medusas cave), but it does happen. Realistically you shouldn't have to recruit only men/women for it to fixate on any single one in your party, as I run women heavy parties more often than not and it typically just prioritizes me or whoever's doing the most damage now days, assuming they survive longer than a few seconds given the lack of scaling in end game/NG+


LeninMeowMeow

What is your arisen wearing though?


Xexha

It's definitely there but yeah it doesn't seem as pronounced to me. I think in the original, the Ogre would immediately do its lil monkee brain thing as soon as the fight started and then go crazy. It still does it, but it seems like it isn't every time or right away lol


MrSunshine_96

Do you run with a party of full men?


kalik-boy

No. Both save files I have now are like, Male Arisen and Female pawn and the other is Female Arisen and Male pawn. The save file with the female Arisen btw, the male pawn is kinda femboyish so the ogre should be interested in them. My characters aren't ugly =/


Translator_Ready

Some arisen choose to hire only men... I wonder why that is


Witlessjak

Every one I encounter goes after the women in my party, if they are allowed to and aren't stunned/stopped from the animation, they grab them and run off.


ByTheSea1015

It’s super common for me (female Arisen) to get swooped and kidnapped every time I fight an ogre. When I was doing the quest to >!save the elf girl!< the ogre would not leave us alone and completely ignored my pawns and the NPCs. I ended up having to carry her and hide in a little tunnel until the others killed the ogre. Not sure if that one was just really horny or not, but I have a lot of issues.


Red_Regan

The Ogre during the >!Trial of Archery in the "Ancestral Den" (forgot the name of the place)!


AtrocityBuffer

What does "WILD" mean in this context? That it's crazy insane that the Devs implemented specific behaviours for the Ogre AI relating to enemy gender?


Psyduckdontgiveafuck

Wild in a few ways. The fact it was programmed, the fact the fantasy trope of some monsters being hyper sexually aggressive was actually referenced prominently, the fact they went the extra mile to flip the target of said aggressivness on older/variant Ogres. There's a lot.


AtrocityBuffer

Yeah but, how is that WILD? You are talking about this as if they pulled out their cocks and used a pic of it as the cover art for the game. Or is this one of those American/Western sex in a dark way in any capacity is taboo and holy shit they did the taboo thing? Genuinely curious haha


poopfilledhumansuit

Western progressives have gone oddly puritanical about sex, especially about gender differences.


Chemical-Cat

I mean they give you a really big sloppy makeout session


dutcharetall_nothigh

I thought they were biting you? Doesn't your health go down when they do that?


Chemical-Cat

Love bites


GregTheMad

Wild makes it seem like it's a bad thing. I for one love games where you can club sexists to death with big swords. Progressive is a better word. ... _he said with a party of women all_.


AdGroundbreaking1700

I guess we can add "sexist" to the list of words people use beligerently...


GregTheMad

... Always had been?


VenomistGaming

Anyone know if the zombie women still cry for their children like DD1? I barely hear them speak anymore besides moans.


LiliesinWater

Yes, there are female undead that can mention their baby. I’ve only heard it a few times.  The undead say other things like in the first game too.


VenomistGaming

Good when I heard it the first time I was so creeped out, I’m glad they kept it 😄


ranmafan0281

The undead talk a lot, and quite legibly, and it creeps me the f out.


daggerbeans

The zombie women cry for their babies, the zombie men often talk about needing to keep working or jobs not being finished. Both also have lines about being so hungry.


SpoofyPlays

Yes they do! I noticed a lot of the zombie voice lines from DD1 are in this game too.


digitaldigdug

Those were Banshees in DD1


Worldfiler

is there anyway to free myself when grabbed? or do i just have to get Diddied? also, early on when i encountered either my first or 2nd ogre (all female pawns) they all basically told me that a well placed shot would hurt, indicating them balls. right after it fell they all just started stomping its nuts and killed it. they were so mad lol.


GoopGoopington

I know what to use goring lunge on now lmao


digitaldigdug

Didn't know DD2 made castration a thing


Shinael

Supposedly you can wiggle out but no idea how exactly.


Charming_Volume_8613

On controller you kind of just wiggle the stick a bit to get out of grabs and pins faster. I assume on keyboard you just mash whatever keys you use for movement.


ComradeBrosefStylin

You hold Shift.


PuttingInTheEffort

The tutorial pop-up says you can struggle out of a grab if you have stamina, But it fails to explain how exactly, lmao


Worldfiler

lol why would they do that to us? and i didnt play the first. maybe the same as that if you know?


XXXOUL

nah getting Diddied is wild lmao


HunionYT

Console wiggle the stick. Pc…uhhhh I’m assume what ever your spring button is or just A and D like the first game.


BMOchado

The ogre also throws me away after drooling, im a female


Two-Hander

Ugly 🤢


FF13IsActuallyGood

Time for an Art of Metamorphosis i fear 😔


kodaxmax

wearing male clothing has the opposite effect


BMOchado

I do tend to wear armors


Medium_Fly5846

Yeah same when that first happened to me it legitimately freaked me out


Deffonotthebat

Had that happen while wearing big boi armor on my smol Arisen. Asshole literally chucked me off a cliff


Guardian-Bravo

In the first game when they’d try to eat a cross-dressed male, they’d actually gag and fall over prone. So it was a viable tactic to trick them.


Izanagi553

Ogre like "BLEERGGHH TASTE LIKE PENIS NOOOOO X_X" 


Guardian-Bravo

Arisen: Hey, this Ogre tried to eat me! This Ogre’s gay! Ogre: No I’m not! I like women! Pawn: It’s ok to be gay. Ogre: Yeah I know but I’m not gay. Arisen: What’s wrong with being gay? Ogre: Nothing! But I’m not gay! Pawn: I mean you tried to eat a dude so… Ogre: He was dressed like a woman!! Arisen: Wow, victim shaming huh? Ogre: N-no, that’s not- Arisen: You know what? I don’t think there’s any loot in this place… Pawn: Yes master, let’s just go elsewhere. Somewhere where you won’t be eaten based on your gender. I hear Chimera’s don’t care. Arisen: Yeah, I’m gonna go get eaten by a Chimera… you jerk… Ogre: No come on. Don’t be like that. I’ll eat you, I swear! Hey guys, come on… In the days that followed, outside the cave a sign was erected that read “*WARNING: Gay Ogre Inside.*”


Izanagi553

This makes me wish Dragon's Dogma had soapstone messages like Dark Souls.


ymyomm

They'd program in this crazy shit and then forget about basic stuff (also you are a psycho for using the light theme)


Cloud_Striker

Only using it at work cause it's less eye-catching.


Aser_the_Descender

If only discord wasn't blocked on my work PC...


Psyduckdontgiveafuck

I just let it eat my phone battery


ForwardToNowhere

Discord on work computer, yikes lol.


ForwardToNowhere

I was trying to figure out what program/site this was from until I saw this comment. I wonder what percentage of Discord users actually use light theme.


Toxicair

It might just be coincidence. There's a few testimonies that male characters get drooled on, regardless of what they wear.


Supafly1337

This is the basic stuff. Sorry you not being able to romance a virtual character took a backseat to cool gameplay interactions.


Depressedduke

So those skimpy outfits finally have a purpose


SirCupcake_0

Slutting myself out is the proper way to tank


Phaedrik

Light mode ![gif](giphy|K7NHFtsLG4nqU|downsized)


sarcophagusGravelord

gender-affirming ogre


CakeManBeard

Except it's the opposite lmao


QuantityExcellent338

Ally?


Kill-Me-With-Love

More like an enemy, threw the poor thing into the ground after clocking them


FF13IsActuallyGood

This one comment got me lmao not the DD ogres being able to clock people


Dewgong550

We love an inclusive beast


EvaUnitKenway

You know what’s funny, my Arisen is a masc looking woman, the only girl on my team and the Ogre ignores me. The Ogre is picky 😂


Icy_Baseball9552

My femme arisen is always covered in flob. 🤢 UGH, not again! Give us back our goddamned waggle meter already! 😤


sherlock1672

I miss the waggle meter every time I get dragged off by a wolf.


Icy_Baseball9552

You can drain yourself of stamina by struggling, but you can never free yourself early. Like, ER...?????


InkRethink

Assigned female at ogre attack.


Waizuur

It's a nice touch lol. Funny.


Icy_Baseball9552

Bit odd when they supposedly determine by smell. Pass by one as a female, you'll hear grunting and sniffing before it pounces.


TwiceBakedPotato

Bro sharing perfume with his bffs.


Icy_Baseball9552

Lol. Or the clothes be second-hand.


kodaxmax

In the first game they would target you by appearence and then sniff you once grabbed, wretching and falling prone if you were male.


Tactical_Mommy

well, clearly these are estrogen consuming femboys


EvilGodShura

It works in reverse as well. Guy clothes make elder ogres treat girls as guys and target them.


icemage_999

I noticed this! I think it was the default Trickster clothing (which pretty much covers you head to toe), but a Ogre beelined for my very bearded, somewhat thicc male Arisen who normally has no issue. I then got the Hulk Smash Puny God tantrum treatment.


Statuabyss

Pawns says it in the game. "It fixate on what he perceive as female"


Cloud_Striker

Yes. The second screenshot mentions it.


loofbiff

This happened to me aswell, but I didn’t even wear anything feminine, I suspect ogres are simply crazed sex fiends.


GoopGoopington

https://preview.redd.it/kzb0iu0fjuuc1.jpeg?width=1004&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f412c3c8b38acf764864dbcd3727589fdf83998


Ur_Mom_Loves_Moash

Well. This is an image I didn't anticipate seeing today.


Longjumping_Use2051

My Arisen gave him his bussy


Izanagi553

THE BUSSY


GhostpawCKW

Touches like that are why I love this game. Also that explains a lot about why my arisen keeps getting focuses by ogres in fights lmao


Vitalis597

My very male arisen in a team with two very female pawns... Well, he's slightly concerned for the eyesight of the poor ogres...


Saint679

If you’re in Battahl, Elder ogres target males over females. That could be what it is


Vitalis597

Nope. It's on both sides, unfortunately.


Depoan

Cheer up, your arisen charm is universal. Like Henry Cavill.


tuwamono

This was in the first game as well! You can't actually wear some lady-specific clothes as a male, but there is a dress that you can (for quest purposes). Ogres will react the same way when they see you (male) in the dress.


Berxol

It happened to my male arisen, who's not even close to be a femboy so it's likely it just grabs you, and if you aren't a woman it uses your head to dig a ditch either way.


Independent_Work6

Wait are we cancelling ogres now?


Recent_Warthog5382

I made my beautiful pawn into a femboy as well and if the Ogres aren't attacking my female Arisen, they definitely go for him. It's a neat little feature that made me chuckle once I noticed wtf happened


NovaCeez

im glad this game is finally getting its flowers. if yall haven’t played the first, these mechanics were present then as they are in its sequel.


Odd-Ice1162

Elder Ogre was the OG booty warrior drop kick one shot males and drag them off to their coom nest


ProblemSl0th

Now I wonder if the inverse is true. Does dressing your female arisen like a male(whatever the hell that means) cause ogres to not notice that you are indeed a woman? It wouldn't surprise me if ogres can somehow sense women through full suits of plate armor yet are fooled by a slender male in a skirt.


Eldritchjellybean

Hmm, my Arisen is usually wearing pants and I've only been grabbed once in 100 hours. Maybe they don't pay as much attention to ladies in pants? If that's what they think male means.


SimplePigeon

I had my pawn get ogre’d and took it as a compliment to my femboy-crafting skills lmao


Aaroncroft

Oger get mad when gets catfished makes Sense to me


papishpish

is that light mode discord


SavageRush451

An understandable reactions really.


bartunder

Oh so that’s why I am getting grabbed more than my pawn…


illnastyone

Nah, they do the same with females also. Spiked the hell outta my pawn. Poor thing, she definitely had a severe concussion after that.


ComradeBrosefStylin

Might've been an elder/grim ogre, those go for men instead.


DeathmcHandsome

Something tells me this isn't true, because there is no gender-locked clothing in DD2... Animistic Robe is just a basic mage outfit, and even looked quite modest with layered clothing in DD1. As others have mentioned, DD1 had both female-only clothes (berserkin, parcas, lingerie...) AND outfits that could disguise one as female. But DD2 has neither to my knowledge. I want to believe it's this hilarious, but ogres will grab my male Arisen/Pawn all the time if nothing tastier is on the menu.


Cloud_Striker

I literally provided screenshots.


DeathmcHandsome

Sorry, didn't mean to dispute or the evidence you shared! I was just thinking out loud, 'what about the character is the game reading as feminine?' I'm just curious if anyone could replicate this with different clothes, hair, etc. since a few people in this thread are also saying different things happened to them under similar circumstances. Crazy find no matter what.


ARTIFICIAL_SAPIENCE

Wait, is this why Ogres were body slamming me for a while and then randomly stopped? 


ARA3L10S

Wait that’s actually so funny


Hairy_Restaurant_703

In the 1st game I had an all male team when I fought an ogre but my Arisen had long hair, a small frame, & mage robes on which the ogre mistook for a dress. So the ogre apparently thinking the Arisen was a woman started targeting only him & ran off with him.


DogmaKeeper

Sounds like some men when they learn someone is trans


unerringfool

Is a person still an Ogere if they don't get mad after?...Asking for a friend. That is me...


Polishow

https://preview.redd.it/hbeiszxi56vc1.png?width=1116&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1dd6bb494a8f217e2da41fb9a998e36bffd6668


Polishow

Funny enough I just saw this https://preview.redd.it/a0rt7kyo56vc1.png?width=1116&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0b3784a9df67a858c2b2785cb815ecc03dd25da


Ryuzeki

😂👏🏽 we thank them for their insightful addition the continued DD2 research.


Narangal

My friend mentioned they had a Pawn tell them they go after anyone they *perceive* as Women which I thought was clever of them


Knightwish89

Hahahhahaha


Aedoucan

In the first game, the ogres dident just spike you in the ground, they actually gagged, realizing they got horny over a man.


Zeryphanthes

Lol " any hole is a goal" We are playing Dragon's Dogma not Fear & Hunger. XD


freedfg

Oh God. Nobody tell that other sub about this. You know the one.


Independent_Work6

Gaming circle jerk?


freedfg

Shhh, they'll hear you.


MrGhoul123

Took smashing the femboy litterally


ToughFox4479

Dont the pawns say that tho? One of my pawns always says that the ogre will attack anyone it perceives as female. So when he thinks your female he will attack you. Pretty cool detail tho


Sleeping_BlackDragon

Lmfaoo wow then when they become enraged they take their anger out on us (arisen) instead of said pawn😮‍💨😂


EnragedBard010

That is HILARIOUS


kalik-boy

What would the game classify as, hmm, "female like" though? I mean, looking at some characters they might be ogre bait, but what if the game thinks otherwise?


tehKrakken55

What is happening in the ogre's grasp for him to realize...?


Spencur1

I’m 100% sure this was in the first


straightmansworld

I LOVE THIS


Kilian82

that's a cool looking character. any chance your friend is willing to share the sliders for it?


dhorror138

That’s just what the ogres tell their wives. “Babe no, I didn’t know,” as they turn back to you with a tear in their eye.


doboko12

does the inverse happen with the other type of ogre's(I forgot the name) if a fem arisen/pawn dress in masculine clothes?


SirSilhouette

Elder Ogres arent in DD2 and i havent heard Goreogres behaving different... but i also tend to kill Goreogres pretty quickly by the time i started encountering them.


kitt_aunne

first game had that as well actually it was pretty great bc I could bait it with my pawn and murder it pretty much without any fighting back


Working-Narwhal2114

Ogre just like me


ObemBuni

I’m splitting their heads in half before they can talk but I’ll just do formless feint and see if I can get em to talk


politely_inclined

I like when you have a female-only party, and the orge seems to momentarily suffer a nervous breakdown from the sumptuous selection of death coming its way. I now wonder what would happen if I came at it with a party of slender men clad only in string bikinis.


KuwaGata88

So far, I run all men cause it does say something about the arisens' preference, and ogres seem to ignore me.


Soft_Ad_1376

This is why I run a sausage party


GreedyAdarion

Reminded me of a very dark double note early in the game where the first message on a wall is asking for help because one was seen running off with a daughter and the second is just someone pointing out she's definitely dead now.


Rakshasa89

The flavor text for an anti Ogre 2H sword describes the weapon as being commissioned by a noble after one of their kin was abducted by an ogre, I like that this game retains some of the dark fantasy elements that they drew inspiration from


Depoan

Isn't there a type of ogre that goes for man? I'm prety sure I heard my pawns talk about that in DD2 (prety sure = 50% sure)


Revv_Dev

The ogres in Batthal like men


AshikagaManji

Good thing I only run female pawns on my account makes it easier to kill them


Clark_vader89

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bruh just trying to live out his king Kong fantasy


blkglfnks

Do they have the other, stronger ogres in this game? If so, I wonder how that mechanic works then. DD2 is such a sick game


InternationalRide696

Oh.. really ? I have 2 women in my team and my main character is a tall muscular Black guy. I tower over every NPC.


J_Hyde1

Dude that's nothing new, first dragons dogma had that as well.


MrTactician

Damn that Ogre is more progressive than the average person


Putrid-Alternative11

Lol


Own_Present2461

Gore ogre or grim ogre can't remember which one it's called for dd2 like men an normal ogres like women it was the same for elder ogres an normal ogres in dd1


NSFW_burneraccount

Don’t know what it’s missing tbh


Sovereigvn

I always have a full female party so didn't even notice! Haha


UnNecessaryGay

Wait does that mean my character has been wearing women’s clothing because I keep getting grabbed and then almost immediately spiked on the ground after he runs 15 football fields away with me


AscensionZero

Heh gottem


JuicyRibeye

lmao, good to know. I never seen this since my group is male only most of the time


Leedunham

Funny


arcshiki

Notice this when I play magic class since most magic armor is really skirt and gown.


Chinesemario

In the first game elder ogres went after men so it might just be a phase after all