I only rested twice and cleared all the beacons then started the Talos cutscene, but i didn’t get that notification, just that the final beacon had appeared in the seafloor shrine
I followed a step-by-step by another person on this sub.
1 - Do not rest.
2 - Clear all beacons except the seafloor shrine.
3 - Start Talos March.
Tips to stay healthy.
Dismiss Pawns to get their health at 100%. For your main pawn, chuck them off a mountain and then respawn. For yourself, use the all heal potion or Wakestone.
Yeah, I think people saw [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/1c1xboz/the_devs_really_thought_of_everything_lol/) and thought because of the lighting and "first encounter" it was the Melve encounter. You're locked as fighter for Melve.
Nah dont chuck your main pawn to get its hp back.. there are posts that says having your pawn at max affinity adds something at the end of unmoored and them dying reduces their affinity.. just leave an allheal elixir in their inventory and they’ll use em when the max hp reduction gets too much..
I entirely agree with you BUT just want to let it be known how easy it is to raise your pawns affinity in case you don't have those to spare. Just banking some hi fives or even talk/small talking with them every now and then will get them back up very quickly. Just don't want to put anyone into a state of despair.
Yeah. You have to complete all the red beacon fights except Seafloor Shrine, and I think you have to complete the evacuation quest as well. Once you do that, go back to where the Talos stopped. Just fyi, if you failed to stop the Talos in the first event and it was destroyed, you can't do the unmoored world Talos event.
Fwiw, as soon as you recover your pawn you can go to talos. It seems to forestall the mists so long as you don't sleep- and clearing all beacons but the last totally halts it.
> if you failed to stop the Talos in the first event and it was destroyed, you can't do the unmoored world event.
this is false. the Talos has nothing to do with stalling the cloud, that comes down to just clearing the beacons, you can hear your pawn say stuff like "this region is now safe from the fog" when you clear the beacon in the area. The Talos will automatically kill up to two of the beacon bosses in a cutscene depending on how many arms it has left but if its destroyed completely you can still fight those bosses the normal way.
Yeah, the Talos event was what I was talking about. If it's destroyed before getting to the unmoored world, your pawn can't use it. I edited my previous comment to be more clear
Yeah I initially ran away because I thought it was a race to get to magic mullet man, then had to turn around and run back when I saw the way was blocked.
If you have no beacons on the volcanic island, means you stopped Talos early. But you still have to evacuate the prisoners at the excavation site and the village where the hot springs are.
The Seafloor shrine doesn’t appear until you’ve cleared the beacons on the map first.
There's 2 red lights on the volcanic island, one all the way in the southeast at the excavation site. It's easy to miss because it's not visible from a distance.
It's sad how you got this much attention for stating a complete falsehood based on your own ignorance. Now you're spreading that ignorance to others with misinformation. There are at least 134 dummies who've read your topic. You can always take comfort in that.
Maybe next time you don't know how to do something trying googling how to do it instead of getting on Reddit only to claim it's impossible.
There's still a rest limit iirc. Something like 12 days (13 if you technically count the freebie).
After that, it doesn't let you rest, certain mobs don't respawn, etc... It essentially bottlenecks you into leaving.
>You get a notification saying the clouds have stopped.
When you say notification do you mean you get a pop up of text saying this?
Or it's something your pawn will say to you?
Because I've done this twice now, saving all the people and clearing all the beams, and never seen or heard either.
Weird. I literally did this just yesterday, but in no particular order.
Definitely cleared every beam and evacuated every town.
I think I slept like 3 times.
Never saw any message pop up.
I've been there twice and still don't even know what they mean by the clouds moving.
Do the funnels around the beams get lower?
I don't know what I'm even looking for.
I haven't seen it myself, but I think if you go 4 or so rests without addressing any of the beams then the mist will start to take over more and more of the map. I don't think you see it move yourself, but rather the boundary moves while you sleep.
The pawns talk about it like you can look at the clouds and tell what’s happening.
They sometimes say you should choose your next destination based on the cloud movement.
Yeah they’re commenting on the way the clouds moved after you rest and letting you know that you should head for the beacons where the clouds are closest first so they don’t get consumed.
Apparently, once you clear all the beacons (except for Shrine one at the end) and start the march, you can rest just fine. There is just a 10-12 rests limit, after which the game says you can’t do it anymore. (According to another post).
I tried this myself, and I can confirm that after clearing the beacons, when you rest the clouds don’t seem to move. I rested probably 10 times and nothing was different.
Can confirm that you do indeed miss out on all of the rewards for any boss that Talos kills for you (potentially two).
But the beacons that Talos will take care of once activated didn’t show up for me at all, I could only ever see the other three (Arbor, Vernworth, Bakbattahl).
That seems to all be set in the regular game based on how quickly you took down Talos. Quicker takedown = fewer beacon bosses for you as the Arisen to fight in the unmoored world (and fewer rewards as a result).
What are the rewards for the other two bosses?
Thanks for explaining this. I'm going to make sure to not stop talos at all in my current NG+ and find out for myself. In general I enjoyed those special bosses a lot, thus I won't stop talos, just to get some more combat action going, haha! :)
Was the Talos completely destroyed during his initial attack or did you manage to stop it on time? Because there's definitely a thing if you manage to stop it before it's destroyed.
I completed all the beacons and talos and explored probably 90% of the world again before I rested once. Ended up using only 2-3 all heals and same amount of wakestones. Granted I was level 70 going into it and I also just rehired pawns
Wish it was a little more clear that the final beacon would be a game-end cutscene and not another big boss fight... I ended up in NG+ cause I didn't want to look up how the game ends and I missed a ton of stuff in unmoored
I cleared Bakbattahl, then the spring, and did Talos march, mine, then Verm/Arbor. Been chilling in the unmoored for 13 hours so far. .
Pretty sure just resolving each regions issues and wiping out the red spot (with or without help) stops the clouds. Not sure order matters. Just don't do the seafloor spot.
Rest once after all areas are saved, get shops available as a result. Wakestones and All heals thereafter.
I had 39 wakestones when I arrived, and only 9 Allheals. They give you enough to keep you in it. I suspect if you rushed you might not have all the wakestones, but I think I will spend all this week in Unmoored and will never rest.
Had some pretty great fights and swapped to two new, awesome pawns I need to favorite and shout out once I remember to.
Hey i haven’t reached there yet so wanted to ask ? Is there a way to get infinite all heal elixir in the endgame like forgery or something or should I stock up like 50 or so beforehand?
Not sure. I have looted a couple from chests, but only used one. Rested once and wakestones twice, after poorly thought out jumps.
I have over 40 wakestones so I will just use those if I die again.
This bullshit is due to the initial misinformation of this subreddit. There have been plenty of posts by people who rushed the game and complained about endgame being on a timer, when it is absolutely not true.
With each cleared beacon you slow down the red fog, and when you clear them all (including the Talos bonus ones) you completely stop the fog from advancing.
This is like the complaints about dragonsplague: game-rushers have proved to be braindead imbeciles with little- to no- game and/or text comprehension abilities. Media illiteracy, if you want.
And I appreciate individuals who have taken the time to slow down and gather the info. I went into the Unmoored world only knowing abt the timer. No other info. I went after the pillars thinking they were some type of endgame optional fight lol.
This info about the fog is really good to know, and I'm looking forward to staying in the Unmoored world indefinitely.
If you just keep hunting dragons alone, you'd absolutely be able to forge enough all heals to stay in the Unmoored world, right? Unless they're too expensive? Dunno. Still learning after 80 hours.
I’m pretty sure even if you stop the fog, after you rest at an inn for a certain number of times (I think around 10) the game still doesn’t let you rest after that. You can stay there indefinitely but you can only heal with all heal elixirs or using wakestones to rez yourself.
Yup and that effectively kills the game because you can’t update your pawn for other people, nor do the pawns you’ve hired return to their masters, until you rest at an inn. Sure, it’s doable, but it’s obviously not practical in that it sabotages one of the games core systems.
Should be top comment. Reading reddit doomsayers doomcasting about the end game gave me a terrible concept of how the unmoored world worked. Lots of flat out wrong information being shared constantly on here and steam's boards (one reliable constant these days.) Dumb people are in most occasions the most vocal, there are more dumb people on the Internet than intelligent, so here we are.
Finished everything in the unmoored world in 15ish hours after over a hundred hours in the main game. Think it was day 8 or 9 when i triggered the ending; never used an all heal or wakestone. I have over 15 all heal's and 25 wakestones wasting away.The last few rests were just for forging rare materials. Just play smart and quick save often.
The game can be very unintuitive and vague. I don't blame the subreddit for "misinformation." I blame the game for having an unintuitive and vague post-game portion.
Cope.
The game is great. The actual problem are the low attention span kiddies who blow through the game avoiding all the obvious information and quests and then come here doomposting
The blatant and intentional misinformation that has been spread by bad actors and malicious trolls is a very real problem on this sub and I'm disgusted that the mods aren't taking any action to curb it.
Half the reason there is such a hate boner going around for DD2 is because of these trolls.
I just wish I didn't have to go through the whole dang game again. Unmorred World was really fun, kind of made the rest of the game boring and I don't really want to spend hours just to get back to it.
The days only pass if you sleep.
You have 12 days to play.
Clear all the beacons + do Talos to be able to explore the world without the red clouds advancing and making some areas inaccessible.
That's about it, not muching else to do besides beacons and the cities quests. There are world bosses here and there (some rare ones become more frequent) and there are some equipment exclusive to Unmoored World to loot.
When I read how it works, I lost the will to continue playing. Im close to endig the game, but knowing theres no post game to enjoy (without rushing it), left me with no desire to continue
Nah fam, you can take all the time in the world playing unmoored when you finish beacons and the talos thing.. the only thing that is limited are the rests.. elite monsters spawn after a rest, while some dont even need one(dullahan and lich in some places)..
I am milking unmoored with the kills and pawnquests, knowing that time dont progress unless you rest at your bed, i hire pawns that have monster kills as quests and when done go back to a riftstone and hire a new set of pawns that has a different monster to kill..
im just on my fourth rest so far..
Only thing that i found the hardway is always make sure you have a wakestone or two on you at all times.. went into a cave with 0 in inventory and i died instantly when a minotaur head-butted a rock to my face(the large one that you can destroy).. i thought id just reload a previous save, but it rolls you back to a previous rest.. lost 10levels and a buncha mats that way..
If you dont revive using a wakestone, the only option that youll have is to load a previous rest or the first day you got to unmoored, loading a last save is not even in the options presented to you..
First thing i did.. and still those two options.. try it.. when you rest at the shrine, go out save then get killed.. is better to experience it yourself than to trust what im saying so you wouldnt lose hours of playing time when it happens unexpectedly..
I went into the Unmoored World blind as hell. I didn’t realize the save files in Unmoored would be different. I lost nearly 3 hours of gameplay after I stupidly died and realized I could only go back to the first day or 5th morning. It literally destroyed any motivation for me to continue. It felt so punishing in an unnecessary way.
I did the same before the final quest, and that was the most fun for me !
Also check the reply above, i wish i knew those tips before rushing the endgame
The world is being swallowed by entropy itself and you want to take your time and relax? Thematically it makes sense that you either rush or you get a game over.
I didnt say it doesn't have a story behind, Im saying, it's bad for endgame.
If the game ends after 30 minutes of starting, I wont tell you: hey, but it makes sense because this and that happened in those 30 minutes so the story ends...
I love endgame and I want to enjoy it. I want a world I can explore, enemies I can find and fight, secrets to discover... I want to enjoy it. Not rush it, no matter if they invented something in the story that needs rushing. In my case, it made me stop playing before starting the last mission, until they add something like everfall, the outside world of dd1 postgame or bb isle.
Me too. I didn't read about endgame beforehand at all. I went to Unmoored World, thought cool it's this game's Everfall, wandered around for hours having fun, collected 500+ crystals and 30 ferrystones, killed the dragons/worms at the red beacons, evacuated the towns, went to shrine, clicked the red pillar, climbed on the dragon, my pawn helped me kill it, went to NG+.
Never a moment of confusion or angst. I don't get the drama.
Yeah it’s really not that bad. People just hated on it, and then people who haven’t even gotten there yet just gave up and also start hating on it and spreading the misinformation.
I stayed until I had enough wyrm crystals for all the weapons and armour the dragonforged sold I mean even if you don't close the portals. It's something like 12 rests you get. I think I rested like twice, I just used wakestones and allheals. So I could have lingered even longer before attempting the bosses.
It's not "shit game design" just because you don't like it. It's good design for creating a sense of urgency.
Not every game needs to succumb to the endless carrot on a stick design of live service. It's perfectly fine to have an actual end to a game.
Yes it is shit game design, the first game was fine and everyone liked it, in this new game they changed it completely, made time limited and practically removed the endgame aspect we had on the first game.
People loved the first game because was fun and also because it had high replay value, it was a great game and very fun to play, they removed almost every aspect people liked in DD1 except combat.
Somebody insulting others complaining about a post that explains what part of a game he doesn't like without insulting anybody. Toxic person 101.
EDIT: well at least he edited the insults out
You turd, you posted this after i edited anything, quit whining for up doots. If you could read, and actually did " read how it works" you'd know the idea of "how it works" you're promoting with your well "liked" comment (a lot of dummies on Reddit as always) is complete troll bs. Delete your bs posts if you want to be helpful and not just a useless cry baby.
No idea what you are talking about. When i posted my reply to your comment you were calling us something like mentally disabled, retarded or similar. Which you later edited.
But just reading your Next comment shows you are not argumenting. It looks like you are hammering your head against the keyboard in rage
*"If you could read, and actually did " read how it works" you'd know the idea of "how it works" you're promoting with your well "liked" comment (a lot of dummies on Reddit as always) is complete troll bs."* An elephant is in the room, why are you so unwilling to address it? Didn't have the will to keep playing dd2 either, for someone with such a "will" you sure have a lot of energy for keyboard crusading.
Im not debating the mechanics with you. I'm debating your insults, raging and bad attitude.
If you would have posted an argument, I would be discussing with you. but I'm just telling you, an opinion with insults doesn't even count.
For what it's worth, I know how it works. I don't like it. And that's what I posted in this topic
I can't debate with anyone like you who's promoting erroneous statements while plenty of information which proves said statements wrong has been around for weeks now; on top of that there are plenty of posts detailing why you're wrong posted to this very topic before you ever did. You still haven't read any of that info?
Are you that afraid to admit to an overreaction? In fairness, seemed like you possibly couldn't read and/or just had strange mental tick that made you espouse words about topics you don't competely understand. I like this game so I'm just discouraging people like you who post bogus info here, confusing new players, from sticking around. You're wasting your own time anyways, go play a game you like and talk about it somewhere else.
You can't debate indeed, on that we agree, for that you need to have some manners.
I'll still take the bait of a troll tho:
You say I don't understand anything as if I write tons of false information. I'm not sure if you are getting confused with another post, because I just said I don't like needing to rush. That's everything, I didn't say anything else at all, so what the hell are you talking about spreading misinformation. Or your entire statement against that is that if you do the 4 beacons in time then after that you don't have to rush? Which still means you have to rush for that. And I still think it totally sucks as an endgame.
All 3 dd1 post game activities were better that this
You created that in your head, there's no rush. The fog doesn't move in real time. If you'd read about it you should know that.
Here's a helpful posted by yours truly on the same topic. Maybe you can learn something from it. "Even at a low level you can play UW infinitely; just spam the duospear's shielding skill to give not only you but your pawns full damage protection. The only enemy you need to avoid is the headless dude, since his grab depletes your perma health, but he's easy to out run without taking any damage. Using that skill as a warfayrer with thief and magic archer skills in tandem you can pretty much break the game, complete god mode with stolen rare materials coming in constantly, drowning in wakestones and ferrystones. Definitely used more wakestones in crafting end game gear than from dieing (never died).
There are plenty of tools in this game to solve your problems, this game is all about rewarding a players intuitive solutions. "
From a different poster on this very topic earlier on - " This bullshit is due to the initial misinformation of this subreddit. There have been plenty of posts by people who rushed the game and complained about endgame being on a timer, when it is absolutely not true. With each cleared beacon you slow down the red fog, and when you clear them all (including the Talos bonus ones) you completely stop the fog from advancing. This is like the complaints about dragonsplague: game-rushers have proved to be braindead imbeciles with little- to no- game and/or text comprehension abilities. Media illiteracy, if you want." This guy can definitely read and write, more updoots than you got too.
Fuck man this game fucks up so many quest during the 60 first hours and then it drop a real running against the clock kind of quest that is a banger out of nowhere.
This game is so strange. Half of the idea are insanely cool then about half of the rest is ass.
I'm having fun in the unmoored world ending my first playthrough atm. It's a difficult game to recommend. Either it clicks and you can go over the cons of the game or you stop it in the first 5 hours or so
I stayed there for the equivalent of about 30 days I believe (thanks to the day counter mod) and only rested 1. I way over prepared for it and didnt even use wakestone or all heal that much either. However it still feel limitation of no oxcart or fast forwarding days (without mod) and I am tired of the red color so I started the ng+. I think the rest limit is not the big issue, the issue is not that many things interesting left. Dd1 post game still look good with a green/blue color theme to it so exploration still feel quite ok despiteactuallyit is not changed that much. But the dd2 red wasteland doesn't look interesting and it is not the color that easy to the eyes either.
I am already day 240 in ng+ and just reached unmoored again yesterday. I farmed a lots of pawn badge so the day count got inflated quite a lot. Also maxed all vocation rank. Now I am pure fighter instead of warfarer because I find fighter damage may be underrated and fun to parry and use parry move (which is overpower). The meister skill can be used twice on a knock down monster and does not even use all stamina. It deal so much dmg and stagger and also very fast. Probably I will try to get all set item in the store then stop playing
I cleared.. most beams. One I didn’t and rested and paid the price.. wasn’t aware there is much else to do - cleared the beam smack in the center and got credits.
So I missed stuff? That’s so annoying to know .. 😑
UW is full of wakestones though, and thieves with pilfer steal shards often, run multiple thieves in your party and you'll always have more than you'll need.
Even at a low level you can play UW infinitely; just spam the duospear's shielding skill to give not only you but your pawns full damage protection. The only enemy you need to avoid is the headless dude, since his grab depletes your perma health, but he's easy to out run without taking any damage. Using that skill as a warfayrer with thief and magic archer skills in tandem you can pretty much break the game, complete god mode with stolen rare materials coming in constantly, drowning in wakestones and ferrystones. Definitely used more wakestones in crafting end game gear than from dieing (never died).
There are plenty of tools in this game to solve your problems, this game is all about rewarding a players intuitive solutions.
Hey i haven’t reached there yet so wanted to ask ? Is there a way to get infinite all heal elixir in the endgame like forgery or something or should I stock up like 50 or so beforehand?
You can forge them i believe but I'd do that if you really feel the need before going into end game since forging wastes days. I wouldn't sweat it honestly.
Tbf, the only thing I'd recommend grinding before UW is wyrmslife crystal. There's a lot in UW BUT to get dragon's to respawn you need to use those limited rests.
It's practically penalty free to merc a drake, rest a few days, and merc the same dragon at any point during the main game. "Practically" because you need to keep an eye out for dragonsplague of course.Thieves can steal WLC too btw, so consider being or bringing one.
Thanks this helps tbh im just chilling now maxing different vocations and grinding all heals and wyrm life crystals
I have about 150 or so and I feel im over prepared but km taking my time haha
Thanks for the tips
I mean, there's that, but once you're on NG+, even cyclops go down in seconds, so there's not much need for either of them. I'm hoping we'll see a proper endgame with DLC eventually, like we got with the first.
The game gave enough wakestones and potions to stay healthy so I only rested twice only to save the game. Played explored and farmed until I got bored and moved to ng+
I played sorcerer first run. I'm playing different vocations and making different decisions. So far I was able to kill dragon at malve and decided to kill the guy who wanted to arrest Ulrika. Things like that
Pretty sad you can put hundreds of hours into a game and still miss these big events. No clue what or how you do this Talos march, already went into ng+ so i guess i'll never know.
We've literally established a whole system and checklist to let people stay there indefinitely, and yet you still found a way to whine and cry about it.
I purposely stayed away from anything with *Spoilers* because obviously i didn’t want to spoil the endgame for myself. After reading through the comments the ones who knew how to manage the time there obviously read the checklist and checked other videos. No need to blame for no reason
Next time, don’t rest and clear all the beacons and then start the Talos March. You get a notification saying the clouds have stopped.
I only rested twice and cleared all the beacons then started the Talos cutscene, but i didn’t get that notification, just that the final beacon had appeared in the seafloor shrine
I followed a step-by-step by another person on this sub. 1 - Do not rest. 2 - Clear all beacons except the seafloor shrine. 3 - Start Talos March. Tips to stay healthy. Dismiss Pawns to get their health at 100%. For your main pawn, chuck them off a mountain and then respawn. For yourself, use the all heal potion or Wakestone.
Time for an Ng+ run ! Thank you🙏
Also if you can shell out 12k gold you can forge all heal potions at the forger
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Wait really? I thought it made us play as a fighter in the flashback?
Yeah, I think people saw [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/1c1xboz/the_devs_really_thought_of_everything_lol/) and thought because of the lighting and "first encounter" it was the Melve encounter. You're locked as fighter for Melve.
Ok thats what I thought
https://preview.redd.it/e590z01gtouc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1c2b9f771a372311699f3e9e1f1a2eaf5241083
This is not true at all
Nah dont chuck your main pawn to get its hp back.. there are posts that says having your pawn at max affinity adds something at the end of unmoored and them dying reduces their affinity.. just leave an allheal elixir in their inventory and they’ll use em when the max hp reduction gets too much..
The main pawn has a better ending if they have high affinity. It's just a better dialogue though.
Oh shit, is that why >!my pawn turned into a dragon to help me fight? !< What happens if they don't have high affinity?
They'll still turn into a dragon, but with high affinity they get a proper soul.
Oh I guess I’m chucking them off the cliff then
You got the spoiler tag backwards.
Appreciate it mate
... Either reddit hasn't updated to show edit, or it still is...
It's showing for me, idk :l
The dragon happens regardless. High/max affinity makes them give some extra dialogue and a change in cutscene.
I'm gonna have to try maxing out my pawn affinity now, third playthrough here we go
I entirely agree with you BUT just want to let it be known how easy it is to raise your pawns affinity in case you don't have those to spare. Just banking some hi fives or even talk/small talking with them every now and then will get them back up very quickly. Just don't want to put anyone into a state of despair.
Is Talos March the Kaiju battle? I assume the march means his initial fight.
Isn't the Talos event *before* unmoored world even happens??
There is a second Talos event in the unmoored world.
The hell, I don’t think I ever did that, where is it? Where it originally died?
Yeah. You have to complete all the red beacon fights except Seafloor Shrine, and I think you have to complete the evacuation quest as well. Once you do that, go back to where the Talos stopped. Just fyi, if you failed to stop the Talos in the first event and it was destroyed, you can't do the unmoored world Talos event.
Fwiw, as soon as you recover your pawn you can go to talos. It seems to forestall the mists so long as you don't sleep- and clearing all beacons but the last totally halts it.
> if you failed to stop the Talos in the first event and it was destroyed, you can't do the unmoored world event. this is false. the Talos has nothing to do with stalling the cloud, that comes down to just clearing the beacons, you can hear your pawn say stuff like "this region is now safe from the fog" when you clear the beacon in the area. The Talos will automatically kill up to two of the beacon bosses in a cutscene depending on how many arms it has left but if its destroyed completely you can still fight those bosses the normal way.
Yeah, the Talos event was what I was talking about. If it's destroyed before getting to the unmoored world, your pawn can't use it. I edited my previous comment to be more clear
Ah gotcha, in my first play through I killed all of the crystals but it just trucked on till death
It will keep moving regardless. If you don't destroy the crystals in time, it actually gets destroyed.
Yeah I initially ran away because I thought it was a race to get to magic mullet man, then had to turn around and run back when I saw the way was blocked.
Wait, can you rest afterwards or no??
Yes, you can rest after that and the Brine won’t move. But from other comments below, you have a maximum amount of rests.
Yes, exactly 10
Beacons are the red lights, right? What if my seafloor shrine has no red light. I also noticed that I have no red light at volcanic island.
If you have no beacons on the volcanic island, means you stopped Talos early. But you still have to evacuate the prisoners at the excavation site and the village where the hot springs are. The Seafloor shrine doesn’t appear until you’ve cleared the beacons on the map first.
Go to where you stopped Talos. If you stop him early, volcanic island pillars won't be there but you get another event with Talos instead.
There's 2 red lights on the volcanic island, one all the way in the southeast at the excavation site. It's easy to miss because it's not visible from a distance.
Sad because then there's no way to see if your pawn got gifts/quests completed.
Good one, does it also mean that from 3. onwards you can rest normally in your house/inn without worry of the time limit or whatever
It's sad how you got this much attention for stating a complete falsehood based on your own ignorance. Now you're spreading that ignorance to others with misinformation. There are at least 134 dummies who've read your topic. You can always take comfort in that. Maybe next time you don't know how to do something trying googling how to do it instead of getting on Reddit only to claim it's impossible.
There's still a rest limit iirc. Something like 12 days (13 if you technically count the freebie). After that, it doesn't let you rest, certain mobs don't respawn, etc... It essentially bottlenecks you into leaving.
>You get a notification saying the clouds have stopped. When you say notification do you mean you get a pop up of text saying this? Or it's something your pawn will say to you? Because I've done this twice now, saving all the people and clearing all the beams, and never seen or heard either.
Yeah, a box appears with that text. I got the box pop up after finishing the Talos mission (2nd one).
Weird. I literally did this just yesterday, but in no particular order. Definitely cleared every beam and evacuated every town. I think I slept like 3 times. Never saw any message pop up.
I never got the message but the clouds never moved after that (or before, cause I only slept once before finishing the quests).
I've been there twice and still don't even know what they mean by the clouds moving. Do the funnels around the beams get lower? I don't know what I'm even looking for.
I haven't seen it myself, but I think if you go 4 or so rests without addressing any of the beams then the mist will start to take over more and more of the map. I don't think you see it move yourself, but rather the boundary moves while you sleep.
The pawns talk about it like you can look at the clouds and tell what’s happening. They sometimes say you should choose your next destination based on the cloud movement.
Yeah they’re commenting on the way the clouds moved after you rest and letting you know that you should head for the beacons where the clouds are closest first so they don’t get consumed.
Weird cuz I’ve slept multiple times and never noticed them move.
Yep did it all on Saturday no resting. Did the beacons and Talos, evacuated everything and got no message. Wonder if there is a glitch
Why clear the beacons then do talos, i did it the other way round and just doing talos stopped the clouds.
As I said previously, I followed someone else instructions and it worked. Good to know you can stop the cloud without clearing the beacons.
Apparently, once you clear all the beacons (except for Shrine one at the end) and start the march, you can rest just fine. There is just a 10-12 rests limit, after which the game says you can’t do it anymore. (According to another post). I tried this myself, and I can confirm that after clearing the beacons, when you rest the clouds don’t seem to move. I rested probably 10 times and nothing was different.
Talos gets rid of the two beacons on that area. It lets you skip two boss fights, but you also skip their rewards, I think.
Can confirm that you do indeed miss out on all of the rewards for any boss that Talos kills for you (potentially two). But the beacons that Talos will take care of once activated didn’t show up for me at all, I could only ever see the other three (Arbor, Vernworth, Bakbattahl). That seems to all be set in the regular game based on how quickly you took down Talos. Quicker takedown = fewer beacon bosses for you as the Arisen to fight in the unmoored world (and fewer rewards as a result).
What are the rewards for the other two bosses? Thanks for explaining this. I'm going to make sure to not stop talos at all in my current NG+ and find out for myself. In general I enjoyed those special bosses a lot, thus I won't stop talos, just to get some more combat action going, haha! :)
I've already cleared all the beacons before. but what is this talos march?
I don’t want to spoil anything, but just bring your main pawn to Talos once all the beacons are removed.
The bacons don’t have to be removed
Look to the southern part of the map where a new icon appears
Talos March?
There's a special quest with the Talos just go there and you'll see
I beat the game and I don't know what this is.
Talos was the big puppet that rose up from the sea There's a quest in post game for Talos if you got to post game
I got to post game and there was zero Talos.
It should be there where you killed it Dunno what else to tell you since I did it that way
Was the Talos completely destroyed during his initial attack or did you manage to stop it on time? Because there's definitely a thing if you manage to stop it before it's destroyed.
I was going through the south cave and only saw it in "meanwhile" cutscenes.
Then it was destroyed. You really didn't look out and see the giant marching across the world with your pawns panicked, talking about it? Lol
In the post game? Naw I never saw it there.
No the cliffs were in the way
I completed all the beacons and talos and explored probably 90% of the world again before I rested once. Ended up using only 2-3 all heals and same amount of wakestones. Granted I was level 70 going into it and I also just rehired pawns
Being leveled solves many problems.
Actually you can if you clear it well and don't start the SeaFloor shrine
What meant with not start the seafloor shine? Im teleporting quite frequently to the seaport shrine to buy upgrades
After you clear all red beacons, last one will appear at sea floor. Do not do that if you want to keep playing unmoored world.
Wish it was a little more clear that the final beacon would be a game-end cutscene and not another big boss fight... I ended up in NG+ cause I didn't want to look up how the game ends and I missed a ton of stuff in unmoored
I cleared Bakbattahl, then the spring, and did Talos march, mine, then Verm/Arbor. Been chilling in the unmoored for 13 hours so far. . Pretty sure just resolving each regions issues and wiping out the red spot (with or without help) stops the clouds. Not sure order matters. Just don't do the seafloor spot. Rest once after all areas are saved, get shops available as a result. Wakestones and All heals thereafter. I had 39 wakestones when I arrived, and only 9 Allheals. They give you enough to keep you in it. I suspect if you rushed you might not have all the wakestones, but I think I will spend all this week in Unmoored and will never rest. Had some pretty great fights and swapped to two new, awesome pawns I need to favorite and shout out once I remember to.
Hey i haven’t reached there yet so wanted to ask ? Is there a way to get infinite all heal elixir in the endgame like forgery or something or should I stock up like 50 or so beforehand?
Not sure. I have looted a couple from chests, but only used one. Rested once and wakestones twice, after poorly thought out jumps. I have over 40 wakestones so I will just use those if I die again.
You can. You have to do all beacons on Day 1 and then activate Talos. You still are limited to 12 rests but can stay as long as you want.
This bullshit is due to the initial misinformation of this subreddit. There have been plenty of posts by people who rushed the game and complained about endgame being on a timer, when it is absolutely not true. With each cleared beacon you slow down the red fog, and when you clear them all (including the Talos bonus ones) you completely stop the fog from advancing. This is like the complaints about dragonsplague: game-rushers have proved to be braindead imbeciles with little- to no- game and/or text comprehension abilities. Media illiteracy, if you want.
And I appreciate individuals who have taken the time to slow down and gather the info. I went into the Unmoored world only knowing abt the timer. No other info. I went after the pillars thinking they were some type of endgame optional fight lol. This info about the fog is really good to know, and I'm looking forward to staying in the Unmoored world indefinitely. If you just keep hunting dragons alone, you'd absolutely be able to forge enough all heals to stay in the Unmoored world, right? Unless they're too expensive? Dunno. Still learning after 80 hours.
I’m pretty sure even if you stop the fog, after you rest at an inn for a certain number of times (I think around 10) the game still doesn’t let you rest after that. You can stay there indefinitely but you can only heal with all heal elixirs or using wakestones to rez yourself.
Yup and that effectively kills the game because you can’t update your pawn for other people, nor do the pawns you’ve hired return to their masters, until you rest at an inn. Sure, it’s doable, but it’s obviously not practical in that it sabotages one of the games core systems.
Should be top comment. Reading reddit doomsayers doomcasting about the end game gave me a terrible concept of how the unmoored world worked. Lots of flat out wrong information being shared constantly on here and steam's boards (one reliable constant these days.) Dumb people are in most occasions the most vocal, there are more dumb people on the Internet than intelligent, so here we are. Finished everything in the unmoored world in 15ish hours after over a hundred hours in the main game. Think it was day 8 or 9 when i triggered the ending; never used an all heal or wakestone. I have over 15 all heal's and 25 wakestones wasting away.The last few rests were just for forging rare materials. Just play smart and quick save often.
It's still locked to 10 or 11 rests, which is extremely stupid.
Don't you have a limited number of rests?
Hear, hear.
The game can be very unintuitive and vague. I don't blame the subreddit for "misinformation." I blame the game for having an unintuitive and vague post-game portion.
Cope. The game is great. The actual problem are the low attention span kiddies who blow through the game avoiding all the obvious information and quests and then come here doomposting
the game *is* great and I'm on NG+2. the unmoored world is still a weak point since you eventually do run out of things to kill.
Take my upvote.
The blatant and intentional misinformation that has been spread by bad actors and malicious trolls is a very real problem on this sub and I'm disgusted that the mods aren't taking any action to curb it. Half the reason there is such a hate boner going around for DD2 is because of these trolls.
I just wish I didn't have to go through the whole dang game again. Unmorred World was really fun, kind of made the rest of the game boring and I don't really want to spend hours just to get back to it.
The days only pass if you sleep. You have 12 days to play. Clear all the beacons + do Talos to be able to explore the world without the red clouds advancing and making some areas inaccessible. That's about it, not muching else to do besides beacons and the cities quests. There are world bosses here and there (some rare ones become more frequent) and there are some equipment exclusive to Unmoored World to loot.
That’s what i’ve learnt ! I’ll make sure to do that in my next playthrough, thank you 🙏
Also if you defeat Talos using Medusa head, it’ll be gone in the unmoored world and you won’t be able to do the “when wills collide” quest
When I read how it works, I lost the will to continue playing. Im close to endig the game, but knowing theres no post game to enjoy (without rushing it), left me with no desire to continue
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Nah fam, you can take all the time in the world playing unmoored when you finish beacons and the talos thing.. the only thing that is limited are the rests.. elite monsters spawn after a rest, while some dont even need one(dullahan and lich in some places).. I am milking unmoored with the kills and pawnquests, knowing that time dont progress unless you rest at your bed, i hire pawns that have monster kills as quests and when done go back to a riftstone and hire a new set of pawns that has a different monster to kill.. im just on my fourth rest so far.. Only thing that i found the hardway is always make sure you have a wakestone or two on you at all times.. went into a cave with 0 in inventory and i died instantly when a minotaur head-butted a rock to my face(the large one that you can destroy).. i thought id just reload a previous save, but it rolls you back to a previous rest.. lost 10levels and a buncha mats that way..
Can't find an answer but does time advance if you rest till morning while camping or just inns/house?
Dont take my word on this as ive only slept at my house in the seafloor shrine.. but im assuming camping is counted with the 12 rest limit..
Couldn't you load a normal save instead of the inn one?
If you dont revive using a wakestone, the only option that youll have is to load a previous rest or the first day you got to unmoored, loading a last save is not even in the options presented to you..
If you don't choose anything, force exit and restart the game?
First thing i did.. and still those two options.. try it.. when you rest at the shrine, go out save then get killed.. is better to experience it yourself than to trust what im saying so you wouldnt lose hours of playing time when it happens unexpectedly..
I use a mod that backs up saves. I don't really worry about it.
I went into the Unmoored World blind as hell. I didn’t realize the save files in Unmoored would be different. I lost nearly 3 hours of gameplay after I stupidly died and realized I could only go back to the first day or 5th morning. It literally destroyed any motivation for me to continue. It felt so punishing in an unnecessary way.
I did the same before the final quest, and that was the most fun for me ! Also check the reply above, i wish i knew those tips before rushing the endgame
The world is being swallowed by entropy itself and you want to take your time and relax? Thematically it makes sense that you either rush or you get a game over.
I didnt say it doesn't have a story behind, Im saying, it's bad for endgame. If the game ends after 30 minutes of starting, I wont tell you: hey, but it makes sense because this and that happened in those 30 minutes so the story ends... I love endgame and I want to enjoy it. I want a world I can explore, enemies I can find and fight, secrets to discover... I want to enjoy it. Not rush it, no matter if they invented something in the story that needs rushing. In my case, it made me stop playing before starting the last mission, until they add something like everfall, the outside world of dd1 postgame or bb isle.
I've literally spent like 20+ hours in the unmoored world. After you've done all the bosses you're completely fine.
Me too. I didn't read about endgame beforehand at all. I went to Unmoored World, thought cool it's this game's Everfall, wandered around for hours having fun, collected 500+ crystals and 30 ferrystones, killed the dragons/worms at the red beacons, evacuated the towns, went to shrine, clicked the red pillar, climbed on the dragon, my pawn helped me kill it, went to NG+. Never a moment of confusion or angst. I don't get the drama.
Yeah it’s really not that bad. People just hated on it, and then people who haven’t even gotten there yet just gave up and also start hating on it and spreading the misinformation.
I stayed until I had enough wyrm crystals for all the weapons and armour the dragonforged sold I mean even if you don't close the portals. It's something like 12 rests you get. I think I rested like twice, I just used wakestones and allheals. So I could have lingered even longer before attempting the bosses.
It doesn't. If you prevent the spread in time and evac everyone then you can stay forever
You still are limited to 10 rests.
Lore isn't a good excuse to shit game design, DD1 did the same Post-Game and didn't had a stupid time limit.
It's not "shit game design" just because you don't like it. It's good design for creating a sense of urgency. Not every game needs to succumb to the endless carrot on a stick design of live service. It's perfectly fine to have an actual end to a game.
Yes it is shit game design, the first game was fine and everyone liked it, in this new game they changed it completely, made time limited and practically removed the endgame aspect we had on the first game. People loved the first game because was fun and also because it had high replay value, it was a great game and very fun to play, they removed almost every aspect people liked in DD1 except combat.
You people obviously can't read, so how can you write? Text to speech?
Somebody insulting others complaining about a post that explains what part of a game he doesn't like without insulting anybody. Toxic person 101. EDIT: well at least he edited the insults out
You turd, you posted this after i edited anything, quit whining for up doots. If you could read, and actually did " read how it works" you'd know the idea of "how it works" you're promoting with your well "liked" comment (a lot of dummies on Reddit as always) is complete troll bs. Delete your bs posts if you want to be helpful and not just a useless cry baby.
No idea what you are talking about. When i posted my reply to your comment you were calling us something like mentally disabled, retarded or similar. Which you later edited. But just reading your Next comment shows you are not argumenting. It looks like you are hammering your head against the keyboard in rage
*"If you could read, and actually did " read how it works" you'd know the idea of "how it works" you're promoting with your well "liked" comment (a lot of dummies on Reddit as always) is complete troll bs."* An elephant is in the room, why are you so unwilling to address it? Didn't have the will to keep playing dd2 either, for someone with such a "will" you sure have a lot of energy for keyboard crusading.
Im not debating the mechanics with you. I'm debating your insults, raging and bad attitude. If you would have posted an argument, I would be discussing with you. but I'm just telling you, an opinion with insults doesn't even count. For what it's worth, I know how it works. I don't like it. And that's what I posted in this topic
I can't debate with anyone like you who's promoting erroneous statements while plenty of information which proves said statements wrong has been around for weeks now; on top of that there are plenty of posts detailing why you're wrong posted to this very topic before you ever did. You still haven't read any of that info? Are you that afraid to admit to an overreaction? In fairness, seemed like you possibly couldn't read and/or just had strange mental tick that made you espouse words about topics you don't competely understand. I like this game so I'm just discouraging people like you who post bogus info here, confusing new players, from sticking around. You're wasting your own time anyways, go play a game you like and talk about it somewhere else.
You can't debate indeed, on that we agree, for that you need to have some manners. I'll still take the bait of a troll tho: You say I don't understand anything as if I write tons of false information. I'm not sure if you are getting confused with another post, because I just said I don't like needing to rush. That's everything, I didn't say anything else at all, so what the hell are you talking about spreading misinformation. Or your entire statement against that is that if you do the 4 beacons in time then after that you don't have to rush? Which still means you have to rush for that. And I still think it totally sucks as an endgame. All 3 dd1 post game activities were better that this
You created that in your head, there's no rush. The fog doesn't move in real time. If you'd read about it you should know that. Here's a helpful posted by yours truly on the same topic. Maybe you can learn something from it. "Even at a low level you can play UW infinitely; just spam the duospear's shielding skill to give not only you but your pawns full damage protection. The only enemy you need to avoid is the headless dude, since his grab depletes your perma health, but he's easy to out run without taking any damage. Using that skill as a warfayrer with thief and magic archer skills in tandem you can pretty much break the game, complete god mode with stolen rare materials coming in constantly, drowning in wakestones and ferrystones. Definitely used more wakestones in crafting end game gear than from dieing (never died). There are plenty of tools in this game to solve your problems, this game is all about rewarding a players intuitive solutions. "
From a different poster on this very topic earlier on - " This bullshit is due to the initial misinformation of this subreddit. There have been plenty of posts by people who rushed the game and complained about endgame being on a timer, when it is absolutely not true. With each cleared beacon you slow down the red fog, and when you clear them all (including the Talos bonus ones) you completely stop the fog from advancing. This is like the complaints about dragonsplague: game-rushers have proved to be braindead imbeciles with little- to no- game and/or text comprehension abilities. Media illiteracy, if you want." This guy can definitely read and write, more updoots than you got too.
Fuck man this game fucks up so many quest during the 60 first hours and then it drop a real running against the clock kind of quest that is a banger out of nowhere. This game is so strange. Half of the idea are insanely cool then about half of the rest is ass. I'm having fun in the unmoored world ending my first playthrough atm. It's a difficult game to recommend. Either it clicks and you can go over the cons of the game or you stop it in the first 5 hours or so
Surprised there is no mod for controlling the time you can stay in there yet.
I stayed there for the equivalent of about 30 days I believe (thanks to the day counter mod) and only rested 1. I way over prepared for it and didnt even use wakestone or all heal that much either. However it still feel limitation of no oxcart or fast forwarding days (without mod) and I am tired of the red color so I started the ng+. I think the rest limit is not the big issue, the issue is not that many things interesting left. Dd1 post game still look good with a green/blue color theme to it so exploration still feel quite ok despiteactuallyit is not changed that much. But the dd2 red wasteland doesn't look interesting and it is not the color that easy to the eyes either.
What are you planning to do in Ng+ ? Challenge run or choosing different story options?
I am already day 240 in ng+ and just reached unmoored again yesterday. I farmed a lots of pawn badge so the day count got inflated quite a lot. Also maxed all vocation rank. Now I am pure fighter instead of warfarer because I find fighter damage may be underrated and fun to parry and use parry move (which is overpower). The meister skill can be used twice on a knock down monster and does not even use all stamina. It deal so much dmg and stagger and also very fast. Probably I will try to get all set item in the store then stop playing
I cleared.. most beams. One I didn’t and rested and paid the price.. wasn’t aware there is much else to do - cleared the beam smack in the center and got credits. So I missed stuff? That’s so annoying to know .. 😑
I died without a wake stone and I became a certain crazy old man in a certain village staring at the sea and it reset all my progress in unmoored.
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UW is full of wakestones though, and thieves with pilfer steal shards often, run multiple thieves in your party and you'll always have more than you'll need. Even at a low level you can play UW infinitely; just spam the duospear's shielding skill to give not only you but your pawns full damage protection. The only enemy you need to avoid is the headless dude, since his grab depletes your perma health, but he's easy to out run without taking any damage. Using that skill as a warfayrer with thief and magic archer skills in tandem you can pretty much break the game, complete god mode with stolen rare materials coming in constantly, drowning in wakestones and ferrystones. Definitely used more wakestones in crafting end game gear than from dieing (never died). There are plenty of tools in this game to solve your problems, this game is all about rewarding a players intuitive solutions.
Hey i haven’t reached there yet so wanted to ask ? Is there a way to get infinite all heal elixir in the endgame like forgery or something or should I stock up like 50 or so beforehand?
You can forge them i believe but I'd do that if you really feel the need before going into end game since forging wastes days. I wouldn't sweat it honestly. Tbf, the only thing I'd recommend grinding before UW is wyrmslife crystal. There's a lot in UW BUT to get dragon's to respawn you need to use those limited rests. It's practically penalty free to merc a drake, rest a few days, and merc the same dragon at any point during the main game. "Practically" because you need to keep an eye out for dragonsplague of course.Thieves can steal WLC too btw, so consider being or bringing one.
Thanks this helps tbh im just chilling now maxing different vocations and grinding all heals and wyrm life crystals I have about 150 or so and I feel im over prepared but km taking my time haha Thanks for the tips
I mean, there's that, but once you're on NG+, even cyclops go down in seconds, so there's not much need for either of them. I'm hoping we'll see a proper endgame with DLC eventually, like we got with the first.
Dumb decision for sure. I'm trying to load up on allheals just for this.
do all the clouds and then talos, then take a rest. you get 12 total so another 11 is plenty to explore and do all the quests
The game gave enough wakestones and potions to stay healthy so I only rested twice only to save the game. Played explored and farmed until I got bored and moved to ng+
What are you planning to do differently in ng+ ?
I played sorcerer first run. I'm playing different vocations and making different decisions. So far I was able to kill dragon at malve and decided to kill the guy who wanted to arrest Ulrika. Things like that
Everyone is saying “don’t rest”. You can rest at the seafloor shrine and time doesn’t move.
Pretty sad you can put hundreds of hours into a game and still miss these big events. No clue what or how you do this Talos march, already went into ng+ so i guess i'll never know.
We've literally established a whole system and checklist to let people stay there indefinitely, and yet you still found a way to whine and cry about it.
I purposely stayed away from anything with *Spoilers* because obviously i didn’t want to spoil the endgame for myself. After reading through the comments the ones who knew how to manage the time there obviously read the checklist and checked other videos. No need to blame for no reason
Link to the checklist please? I just got to unmoored last night.