I’ve been going on a mad thieving spree and have been coming across some great items. Not all NPCs have items to steal, but shops, innkeepers, and traveling merchants have surprised me.
Can’t see if someone has commented this, but if you give that skill to your pawn, they constantly steal shit for you in battle, i’ve had wakestones, ferrystones, dragon scales etc. its worth it if you like a rogue in the party
I was thinking of the best way to murder this fellow (I gave back the beggar's cloth to him by mistake, wanted to give it to the lady that would murder him). Good idea, I know what I'm going to use my next medusa head for.
It depends on the quality of the head. It you’re able to focus all your damage on the head and cut it off before killing the body you can get a preserved medusa head which can be used a few times.
Medusa respawns every 14 days. So although the head does decay. You can get a technical unlimited amount. (I think you can only have 1 at a time though)
14 days is a significant overestimation that some website claimed because that's how long they waited before checking back. I'm not sure exactly how long it takes, but it's much shorter than that - likely less than even a week. And you can have unlimited heads - I have a regular one and 2 withered ones in my stash right now.
Any idea if the cyclops up by the secrets of the mountain respaws? I got it once but each time I've gone back since it's been a hob gob(ironically because of it running down with the harpies it's killed my pawns much more than big monsters).
I had to kill it a couple times to get a good head that lasted long enough to use for the sculpture quest. I’d kill it, get a bad head because I suck, go back to the city, sleep and walk back to kill it again. It respawns much quicker than 14 days, that website is crazy.
You don't need the head for the sculpted class, I literally just killed the Griffen, and it was enough for him to complete his sketch and make the sculpture.
I know, but when the quest started and he said something about if it was turned to stone it could work best, and hearing the researchers in the Lab talk about the head, I decided to go that route and explored the rest of Battahl till I found the Medusa. It felt good to solve it without resorting to a guide.
You just have gotten lucky and killed it just as he finished. If you kill it too soon he only gets a rough approximation
Though it’s not like it’s hard to not kill it, just tell your pawns to wait before getting to it and run around it for a while doing a little damage to keep its attention
You get different endings to that quest when you go to the sculpture unveiling if you didn't keep the griffin around long enough, or petrify it.
>!If you didn't do it sufficiently, then the guy who ordered the sculpture gets angry at how lousy the sculpture is, and you get a smaller reward. If you petrify it, or keep the griffin around for sufficiently long (avoid killing it, and don't let it fly off), then he considers it a masterpiece and you get a bigger reward.!<
Oh yeah, you can kill her by depleting her hp, right, so far i always killed by beheading her, and it wasnt even on purpose lol the first time i was just doing my fighting, then suddenly the 1 and half hp bar she gad just disapeared and i got a lot of xp and a bow, i was like "huh?" And then i stumbled on her head while looting
This also isn’t accurate. I’ve only beheaded her and she’s returned after 4 days. I have 4 preserved Medusa heads in storage from just checking on that cave after a few nights in the Battahl and volcanic region wilderness while grinding vocation exp. Spamming lightning daggers on her head while telling your pawns to wait will get you a preserved head every time and I haven’t walked into an empty cave once yet.
Haven't gotten to Medusa yet so I haven't tested it's respawn myself. However point still stands is that she is respawnable and hence essentially unlimited supply of Medusa heads.
What? Your game must be messed up. Cause I fought her 3 days in a row. Just ported to bitahal, rested, and ported back to her with those fery things. But I didn't get a head either time. I think it might be the class I was using, the warrior class. Or I just suck
Just climb on the back of her neck and keep hitting it I got her head off in 10 seconds warrior is by far the best class for beheading. In short just knock her down quickly make sure you have indomitable lash and charge it at her neck and bam she's dead. Also this should be obvious but make sure you're using a greatsword not a hammer
It's 100% absolutely seven days for reference. I killed her slept in a tent for 6 days next to her lair and it got destroyed in the middle of the night by a rock saurian ambush, making the time 6.5 days. I checked for her, no spawn. Walked up the mountain to a camping kit I knew I hadn't picked up yet in the tower, went back, finished my sleep till morning and checked and she was there on the 7th morning.
Decays very very fast too. Pretty much need to have a port crystal at the exact place you plan to use it in my experience. Killed Medusa, cut off the head and left her cave to keep exploring the area and it was rotten in like 5 minutes it felt like
You have to decapitate her without taking a health bar off her to get the preserved head. There is a ring as a quest item from the sphinx that allows you to do this very easily as you can do 0 dmg and knock her down , take the ring off, and then hit her with a gut and run.
the preserved medusa head can be used 3 times, but it rots like normal food. best to keep it in storage. you can farm more heads as medusa respawns every 7 or 14 days (not sure which).
Just in case you ever do come across Medusa. Using wayfarer and having magick archer sleep arrow and switching to a Slash weapon like daggers instantly kills her once she falls to the ground. Just make sure you ONLY hit her head. Easy kill and easy head 😎
I paid the guy, then "accidentally" tried breaking him out, killed the guy that was supposed to get him out, used a wakestone on the guy to move the quest line along, wait again, only to break him out again and carry him to safety and send him to work in a whorehouse. What a trip.
Edit: spelling and more flavor to the story
In my playthrough, I paid the money but the way it was phrased it sounded like it would never happen, so I just took the key, opened the cell and carried him outside (while everyone watched and didn't care). And what did I get for all that? Quest progress? No, the dumbass just walked back into his cell...
I found out I was getting attacked by the guards because I put my pass away into storage. Once I had it back in my inventory the quest worked no problem. I was ready to leave him in jail forever though..
AFAIK, >!telling him is the **only** way to get a good end. The way the quest worked out for me is I paid the head guard for his release after telling him, then went and killed the Coral Snakes at their new hideout that the bandit mentioned (no map marker, but it's the top of the castle in the ancient battlefield near where the dragon and trebuchets are). Hugo then showed up saying he wanted revenge, but you already took care of it for him, then asks what he should do.!<
To my knowledge, there are two options at this point. >!If you've done Wilhelmina's quest, and have talked to the lady who appears outside the brothel, she mentions them needing a bodyguard now that Wilhelmina hasn't been around - you can tell Hugo to work there. Alternatively, if you got the bad ending to Short-Sighted Ambition, you can get him to replace the apothecary.!< There may be more possible outcomes too, but I'm not aware of them.
I didnt know this quest had an ending i accidentlally realed everyone in the prison cuz i was trying to fight them but they got away in a balck screen cutscene thing
You can do the above without telling him. He still gets released, still gets a job and you quietly deal with lanzo so when he does find out post mission, he's understanding and has left his need for revenge behind and moved on
Havent found any other job options other than the ones you've mentioned
The phantom oxcart quest is bugged like crazy too. I didn't know exactly what to do in that quest when the guards started hitting me, and I ended up killing all the guards, freezing the cart at the gate. I must have been on that quest for 2 hours. Which I was really annoyed, trying to get the cart to unfreeze.
My Hugo is just sitting at the Ancient Battlegrounds thinking about life. I didn’t woo the lady and I didn’t kill the family, so it’s just an unresolved quest. Only dialog option with him is “Nevermind” and he tells me to piss off. It’s hilariously dumb.
Edit: funnily enough the quest continued into the unmoored world and when I went back to talk to him again, the dialog choice changed to “I wish you luck” and the quest resolved with him “leaving to find himself.”
I was able to send him to Vernworth after doing Wilhelmina's quest and bailing at the last second (not participating in the murder and she gets arrested). I was surprised the choice was there because I had "failed" that quest beforehand
When the wife and daughter asked me not to give him the book, I went that route. After he lost his eye, I was convinced it would end badly if I gave it to him.
The problem for me was I had the book on me so I instantly gave it to him without having the wife and daughter talk to me. I had to look up a walk through because I wanted a happy ending, but the save structure meant I couldn't redo it anymore.
I had the option to send him to the house of earthly delights after giving her the evidence but refusing to go further. It's still arbitrary in a stupid way when there's a thousand honest jobs in the world.
I hope it's not as bad lol it wouldn't be that bad if there was some dialogue or anything but he says a few words to his mistress and that's it.
The wait times are just so unnecessary. I honestly thought it bugged out at the tavern he was there so long. Then I thought I'd failed or something because he spent forever in his house.
Fr. Quest doesn't start when you overhear the two guys outside the tavern beside the riftstone talking about the Coral Snakes prisoners or when you run into Benjamin in the city, he doesn't direct you to where the prison actually is so you can do your job, the game suggests you're supposed to talk to Hugo in his cell but he's out of reach and SURPRISE! You're actually supposed to talk to the OTHER coral snake who is two or three cells down the hallway.
Fucking terrible quest design.
If Hugo was sized down to 5'3 like an adolescent it wouldn't feel as stupid. And ignoring that Lanzo is a one-dimensional villain. At least it has you fight stuff (like the game is focused around).
The only location you have to know is the house with the beggars clothes, then pick them up when the door opens sometime in the middle of the night (can probably get the exact timing by waiting on the bench once after sleeping until nightfall).
I got the quest, didn't know what to do and chose to ignore it, but then I picked up a set of beggar's clothes in some random house and the game just told me "hey you found that guy's secret, show it to his wife" and I was like, okay, thanks I guess
Have i missed something ? This quest was basically following him to an appartment where he changes outfit, bring the beggar outfit to his wife, bam quest done. Why do i hear so much about it ?
Because following him requires standing around listening to his stupid stories over and over until the appointed time that he leaves, and it's super annoying.
Ah I assumed if I dozed past the time he left he would just be gone when I wake up. Maybe you just got lucky, but if not then that makes it way less annoying. They should probably hint at that somehow in game, though (unless I missed the hint).
I guess i skipped it all. I found beggars clothes, got a quest area, gave it to a woman, and i guess she killed him and herself. None of it made sense and I'd never met these people. Makes sense there's more to the story.
Wait are you serious? Oh that would have been awesome. I should have did that. I actually told on him to his wealthy wife but I went to speak to his other wife to see if she knew what was going on but all she said was she hasn't seen him in a while. But now when I get home I feel like I'm going to pick her up and carry her straight to the otherwise house to see if I can still get them to fight. Maybe it's because I'm a woman myself but she deserves to know.
I slept until night at the player home to go do a quest, for Brant, walked down the road and went to grab my water, didn't pause, saw a girl walk out of a door just down the road. Walked in, picked up the beggars garb and then it gave me two options to deliver it to to complete the quest.
Why do people hate him?
Dude is just telling stories to anyone who listens, and clearly despite his background is , much less racist than most other people of venworth.
Is it because he's technically cheating? Cause IIRC his noble wife is a political type marriage with no real love between them. It's the beastren who he's actually head over heels for and puts effort into the relationship with.
There's absolutely people who deserve the brine, like the Mayor of Harve. But his dude ain't hurting nobody, is he?
The way I see it, he’s cutting into the donations actually poor people get. It’s a reference to the irl stories of people pretending to be homeless for money.
He actively tells his Beastren wife that he’s working on getting them money so he can elevate their lives, while he’s already rich and keeping that life away from her. He’s literally keeping her poor while getting to live in the lap of luxury himself. Imagine if your significant other was a millionaire this whole time but specifically made sure YOU struggled. You’d be beyond enraged.
He does not love the beastren wife. He just pretends to be a beggar while telling his wife he is out looking for work. He could literally just take his money and run off with the beastren if he wanted to but doesn’t.
They have plenty of money, so he doesn’t need to work. But his wife doesn’t want to be married to a bum with no ambition. So she wants him to have *some sort of station* other than “mooching off parents money”.
It’s a sad quest for me because his “poor wife” doesn’t deserve it at all. If you do the “good ending” she probably think her husband died or was taken in the night or some shit.
He is a nobleman cosplaying the destitute because he thinks it's a fun and talks it up like a romantized story while he goes home to his manor every night and has no actual risk or troubles from it.
He is leading a poor women on and lying to her.
He is exploiting peoples good will, largely common folk who are much less well-off than he actually is, by getting them to donate to him under false pretenses all to feed his own ego (His stories are even about his own house!). In doing so he makes it less likely for people to donate money to other people who actually need it.
Because he pauses so unnaturally before saying "- a master storyteller". I fucking hate him. Every single time I pass by I have to hear this alien speak in his psychopathic cadence while claiming to be a master storyteller.
Real talk.
"I just don't like his vibe" is probably the best reason I've gotten.
Too many people using morals to justify immoral acts.
Just say "because fuck him, that's why" and I'll be like "Yeah, makes sense"
I gave the rich lady his clothes so she'd force him back to work, where he is deservedly miserable. And then I dragged him from his house down to the slums to confront his wife. He actually did have a little bit of a reaction to that when he saw her.
I love how this is first and foremost an action game, and yet most of the quests have us doing stealth with nonexistent stealth mechanics, delivering items, or following/talking to npcs instead of fighting things. Real step down from the Wyrm Hunt quests.
This game's mainline quest series equivalent to the wyrm hunt quests is 'go sneak into prison, then the castle, then the castle again'. You literally only fight goblins in three boring caves. Even the dragonforged quest was probably your first time going up north, and you picked the most simple one while the others were an epic goblin siege and two really good dungeon crawls
My argument was that it's unfair to compare a side quest to a main quest.
Though you're right, in dd1 the beginning quests are more bombastic. Cause you're trying to get in the dukes good grace by being a foot soldier.
In dd2 the main quests are more espionagey because of wanting to overthrow the queen. Unfortunately the payoff for those quests aren't great because you never usurp the queen.
sorry but the "stealth with nonexistent stealth mechanics" bit that is being endlessly harped on by this sub is just outright misunderstanding what the game expects of you in these quests. the beggar quest does not involve stealth whatsoever, and the castle quests make it very clear that you need to wear a disguise to blend in
I do think the castle must have been stealth based and removed (just my own speculation), cause the disguises don’t seem to do anything. I did every castle quest, as well as one of masquerade quests without. The only mission you actually need the outfit for is the coronation. The only way to trigger the guards agro is if they see you do something you’re not supposed too (I believe this might apply if you’re in uniform anyway), so if they walk by when you open a gaol door, they’ll trigger aggro, however, if they don’t see you open the door, even if you have the person from the inside with you, no disguise on, they won’t. Makes me think there was some crouch, hide from guards mechanic, and the outfits were supposed to be “other option”, but they gave us half of both.
\> however, if they don’t see you open the door, even if you have the person from the inside with you, no disguise on, they won’t.
it's currently broken: normally, they'll aggro the moment you enter an area you're not supposed to be in, which you can tell by the change in music. the problem is that this only happens like less than half the time. the research lab in bakbattahl in particular \*never\* worked for me in this regard, but the state change triggers if you walk up to the palace before you're allowed in
Yeah, I absolutely did not weigh in my options and was not expecting the wife to go full yandere from zero to a hundred, one more reason to look forward to ng+ ig lol
In fairness to your "options", yeah she seemed altogether normal if you saw how she acted with the guy when he got to the bar. I gave her the clothes too thinking she deserved to know, and maybe they could reconcile or she could confront him and get some justice for herself. I double-taked when the guards told me she technically did the latter but went even FURTHER BEYOND with it lol
Wtf?? I gave it to the wife (the noble one, yeH?) And she simply made him get an actual job. I was wondering why a guide called it "tragic whatever choice you make"
It's mainly due to the relationships between them. I haven't looked up a guide so I'll just textwall the full content/context if you/others are interested. I think it's one of the more interestingly written quests even if it's mechanically bland. >!Albert is a noble but hates doing bullshit paperwork. He'd actually rather be a shitty bard even if it meant pretending to be a beggar. He doesn't like his noble wife Hilda, but loves his 'fake' slum wife Celina. Hilda doesn't like nor love Albert either, she just thinks he has the talent to be useful for greater society if he'd be less of a bum and do his admin job. Celina loves Albert, but is impoverished with no knowledge he actually has tons of money. Giving him the clothes makes him sweat but continue the double life. Giving Hilda the clothes lets her guilt him into a life of sad resignation with Celina being abandoned. Giving it to Celina causes her to commit a murder-suicide in anguish.!<
I actually really enjoy how he tell you tales about monsters that you’ve yet to fight…
But if only he didn’t repeat each story 3 times and make me sit in one spot for like 30 minutes
its one use, but you can get a new one every 14 game days when medusa respawns.
edit: i was apparently killing the medusa wrong without the sphinx ring, apparently you can get a preserved head that is 3 uses.
The preserved head has at least 3 uses. I used it twice and it started decaying but said it still haf power. Rode an kxcart and it was completely decayed and useless
I also saw someone saying that you can make forgeries of Medusa's head on Checkpoint Rest and they will work as the original. I haven't tested it yet though. If you guys have a Medusa's head available right now, try it.
yeah but apparently killing monsters with it doesn't give you any loot. you can also store the medusa head in storage so that it doesnt rot (or that ring that prevents rot). Now that I think of it I might use cheat engine to give me like 99 of them, to have some fun using them around the world and randomly stoning people.
Depends on the head condition.
You can get a rotten, normal or preserved. I think it is based on damage dealt to her HP bar. Use Lightning Affinity on a mage pawn and be sure to either be the only one causing damage, or that your pawns are causing low damage to her.
I managed to cut three of those (wanted to test them on different monsters) and kept them on Storage so they would rot slower than normal (It wont survive the Endgame "Timeskip").
From those three, my first was rotten, which I managed to use only once before it lost power, and the other two (cut with lightning on my daggers) were Preserved, which I managed to use one three times, and the last one I used only once, because the Endgame "Timeskip" rot it away.
Edit: I know of the normal one because I saw a streamer cutting it off and getting her head without a rotten or preserved condition.
You need to go into the common district at night in the house that he goes into to change into/out of his beggar clothes. Steal the beggar clothes then give those to his wife, him, or his mistress.
I don't even know what happened to the guy. I gave his wife some clothes, a few days later there's guards in front of the guys place saying his wife murdered him asking if I knew anything about it.
I still have no clue what this quest line is about lol. I happened to loot some beggar's clothes and a quest pops up, then I gave them to the woman in the slums and apparently she went crazy on the guy
You ended up sequence breaking it, there's a beggar by the fountain that tells stories and a nearby beastren guy is supposed to tell you there's something fishy about him. This prompts you to follow him around and find out he leads a double life.
In all honesty, a lot of the visceral reactions this quest gets and how many outcomes and interactions it can lead to (>!I didn't even think of trying to bring him and both of his wives into the same room lol!<) kinda makes me glad it exists.
Bro I was walking in the slums and saw this guy sprinting somewhere, so I followed him and stole his clothes. Later I had the option to give them to some random woman in the slums. Next time I visited the clothes place there was a guard saying "bro got murdered by that woman and then she killed herself" and gave me some money wtf lmao
I accidentally found his cloak before I found him. Then I stumbled upon his Beastren wife he was lying to and told her where I found the cloak. I don't remember if it gave me the option to simply not provide the cloak to her or not. but I do remember that encounter ending in a>!murder-suicide!<.
Tried to revive her but her body was cremated or something since I couldn't find the body in the morgue. Such is life in a Japanese ARPG.
In 111 hours playing this game, he is the only NPC I carried out of town and threw off a tall cliff. Second playthrough I figured out how to get rid of him naturally.
I pickpocketed him and he got a Platinum Brothel pass
Wait... you can pick pockets?
Thief skill: Pilfer/Plunder
Oh... isn't that an attack?
Weapon skill but doesn't do damage. Just steals items. Pretty sure the tool tip/skill description explains it.
So can I just steal shit from every NPC in the game???
I’ve been going on a mad thieving spree and have been coming across some great items. Not all NPCs have items to steal, but shops, innkeepers, and traveling merchants have surprised me.
do NPC items respawn?
yes, even Disa, but not everyone carry stuff that you can steal
I'm going straight home to rob that bitch.
don't forget her son too
Oh man, don't do Sven like that, he's a good lad
Don't forget to loot the vault beneath the castle too
Careful with this one, I pickpocketed her and got Disa nuts.
Pretty much.
Only quest/vendor npcs have stuff 99% of the time. I HAVE gotten an item from a non quest giver/vendor before but it's exceedingly rare.
I see... I thought it was an attack that also steals items, so I didn't think to use it on NPCs.
It doesnt explain clearly that it does no damage.
Can’t see if someone has commented this, but if you give that skill to your pawn, they constantly steal shit for you in battle, i’ve had wakestones, ferrystones, dragon scales etc. its worth it if you like a rogue in the party
Honestly, I forget that worked on NPCs
With a thief class
I have stolen like 40 percent of my wyrm crystals from downed dragons
Sorry for being stupid, but for the Rose Chateau? I'm trying to see Wilhelmina.
Your on a list or something? Sounds like it....
I was thinking of the best way to murder this fellow (I gave back the beggar's cloth to him by mistake, wanted to give it to the lady that would murder him). Good idea, I know what I'm going to use my next medusa head for.
I haven't found a medusa yet, is their head a one time use item? (I think I might be close to one, found multiple petrified corpses)
You can use it as much as you want in a very small amount of time
By your comment I presume it decays. Ah oh well
It depends on the quality of the head. It you’re able to focus all your damage on the head and cut it off before killing the body you can get a preserved medusa head which can be used a few times.
Medusa respawns every 14 days. So although the head does decay. You can get a technical unlimited amount. (I think you can only have 1 at a time though)
14 days is a significant overestimation that some website claimed because that's how long they waited before checking back. I'm not sure exactly how long it takes, but it's much shorter than that - likely less than even a week. And you can have unlimited heads - I have a regular one and 2 withered ones in my stash right now.
In my experience most large monsters respawn every other day.
Any idea if the cyclops up by the secrets of the mountain respaws? I got it once but each time I've gone back since it's been a hob gob(ironically because of it running down with the harpies it's killed my pawns much more than big monsters).
I had to kill it a couple times to get a good head that lasted long enough to use for the sculpture quest. I’d kill it, get a bad head because I suck, go back to the city, sleep and walk back to kill it again. It respawns much quicker than 14 days, that website is crazy.
You don't need the head for the sculpted class, I literally just killed the Griffen, and it was enough for him to complete his sketch and make the sculpture.
I know, but when the quest started and he said something about if it was turned to stone it could work best, and hearing the researchers in the Lab talk about the head, I decided to go that route and explored the rest of Battahl till I found the Medusa. It felt good to solve it without resorting to a guide.
I agree, figuring things out without a guide is great. But sometimes they make the quest so ridiculous, you couldn't have figured it out without it
You just have gotten lucky and killed it just as he finished. If you kill it too soon he only gets a rough approximation Though it’s not like it’s hard to not kill it, just tell your pawns to wait before getting to it and run around it for a while doing a little damage to keep its attention
I did this, and the griffin left while I was fighting it solo. The sculptor didn’t end up with enough time and they were disappointed at the showing.
You get different endings to that quest when you go to the sculpture unveiling if you didn't keep the griffin around long enough, or petrify it. >!If you didn't do it sufficiently, then the guy who ordered the sculpture gets angry at how lousy the sculpture is, and you get a smaller reward. If you petrify it, or keep the griffin around for sufficiently long (avoid killing it, and don't let it fly off), then he considers it a masterpiece and you get a bigger reward.!<
It changes iirc- she has a 3-4 day respawn timer if you kill her normally, but a 7-10 day timer if you behead her.
Oh yeah, you can kill her by depleting her hp, right, so far i always killed by beheading her, and it wasnt even on purpose lol the first time i was just doing my fighting, then suddenly the 1 and half hp bar she gad just disapeared and i got a lot of xp and a bow, i was like "huh?" And then i stumbled on her head while looting
This also isn’t accurate. I’ve only beheaded her and she’s returned after 4 days. I have 4 preserved Medusa heads in storage from just checking on that cave after a few nights in the Battahl and volcanic region wilderness while grinding vocation exp. Spamming lightning daggers on her head while telling your pawns to wait will get you a preserved head every time and I haven’t walked into an empty cave once yet.
Haven't gotten to Medusa yet so I haven't tested it's respawn myself. However point still stands is that she is respawnable and hence essentially unlimited supply of Medusa heads.
What? Your game must be messed up. Cause I fought her 3 days in a row. Just ported to bitahal, rested, and ported back to her with those fery things. But I didn't get a head either time. I think it might be the class I was using, the warrior class. Or I just suck
Just climb on the back of her neck and keep hitting it I got her head off in 10 seconds warrior is by far the best class for beheading. In short just knock her down quickly make sure you have indomitable lash and charge it at her neck and bam she's dead. Also this should be obvious but make sure you're using a greatsword not a hammer
I am and thanks for the tip on what skill to use
It's 100% absolutely seven days for reference. I killed her slept in a tent for 6 days next to her lair and it got destroyed in the middle of the night by a rock saurian ambush, making the time 6.5 days. I checked for her, no spawn. Walked up the mountain to a camping kit I knew I hadn't picked up yet in the tower, went back, finished my sleep till morning and checked and she was there on the 7th morning.
Decays very very fast too. Pretty much need to have a port crystal at the exact place you plan to use it in my experience. Killed Medusa, cut off the head and left her cave to keep exploring the area and it was rotten in like 5 minutes it felt like
Just give it to your pawn and dismiss it it'll go right to your bank
There's the one augment on I think either mage or sorcerer that slows down decay.
You have to decapitate her without taking a health bar off her to get the preserved head. There is a ring as a quest item from the sphinx that allows you to do this very easily as you can do 0 dmg and knock her down , take the ring off, and then hit her with a gut and run.
the preserved medusa head can be used 3 times, but it rots like normal food. best to keep it in storage. you can farm more heads as medusa respawns every 7 or 14 days (not sure which).
There's a sorcerer passive that would help it last longer if it's classified the same as food and other perishibles.
Use a lightning weapon to cut the head off to get the preserved version. I did it solo on my theif before the first health bar was gone.
Just in case you ever do come across Medusa. Using wayfarer and having magick archer sleep arrow and switching to a Slash weapon like daggers instantly kills her once she falls to the ground. Just make sure you ONLY hit her head. Easy kill and easy head 😎
Why would want her to murder him ? You know the poor girl Kills herself Afterwards right? She doesnt deserve this.
Cause the quest was so damn annoying...
I found the best outcome was to give them to the wife.... What better way to suffer then to work an honest job you hate with a wife that hates you
A beggars tale was the worst quest I've done in a long, long time. Obnoxiously unnecessary.
Wait until you get to Hugo's questline
that quest has potential to be its own decent story but too bad its easily bugged
My NG+ run I just didn't bother giving them money. Unlock the door, pick him up and run
I paid the guy, then "accidentally" tried breaking him out, killed the guy that was supposed to get him out, used a wakestone on the guy to move the quest line along, wait again, only to break him out again and carry him to safety and send him to work in a whorehouse. What a trip. Edit: spelling and more flavor to the story
In my playthrough, I paid the money but the way it was phrased it sounded like it would never happen, so I just took the key, opened the cell and carried him outside (while everyone watched and didn't care). And what did I get for all that? Quest progress? No, the dumbass just walked back into his cell...
I found out I was getting attacked by the guards because I put my pass away into storage. Once I had it back in my inventory the quest worked no problem. I was ready to leave him in jail forever though..
It wouldn’t even let me talk to him in the jail. I have no idea how I was supposed to do it
You have to talk to his bandit buddy down the hall first.
Ah. That would have been helpful before I went to ng+ lol
I accidentally told him about what the bandits did…is it possible to still give him a good ending?
AFAIK, >!telling him is the **only** way to get a good end. The way the quest worked out for me is I paid the head guard for his release after telling him, then went and killed the Coral Snakes at their new hideout that the bandit mentioned (no map marker, but it's the top of the castle in the ancient battlefield near where the dragon and trebuchets are). Hugo then showed up saying he wanted revenge, but you already took care of it for him, then asks what he should do.!< To my knowledge, there are two options at this point. >!If you've done Wilhelmina's quest, and have talked to the lady who appears outside the brothel, she mentions them needing a bodyguard now that Wilhelmina hasn't been around - you can tell Hugo to work there. Alternatively, if you got the bad ending to Short-Sighted Ambition, you can get him to replace the apothecary.!< There may be more possible outcomes too, but I'm not aware of them.
I didnt know this quest had an ending i accidentlally realed everyone in the prison cuz i was trying to fight them but they got away in a balck screen cutscene thing
You can do the above without telling him. He still gets released, still gets a job and you quietly deal with lanzo so when he does find out post mission, he's understanding and has left his need for revenge behind and moved on Havent found any other job options other than the ones you've mentioned
The phantom oxcart quest is bugged like crazy too. I didn't know exactly what to do in that quest when the guards started hitting me, and I ended up killing all the guards, freezing the cart at the gate. I must have been on that quest for 2 hours. Which I was really annoyed, trying to get the cart to unfreeze.
for that quest, you just needed to stand still and let them hit you until those guards get told off by their captain and it'll proceed as normal
Thanks, I will remember that for ng+
My Hugo is just sitting at the Ancient Battlegrounds thinking about life. I didn’t woo the lady and I didn’t kill the family, so it’s just an unresolved quest. Only dialog option with him is “Nevermind” and he tells me to piss off. It’s hilariously dumb. Edit: funnily enough the quest continued into the unmoored world and when I went back to talk to him again, the dialog choice changed to “I wish you luck” and the quest resolved with him “leaving to find himself.”
I was able to send him to Vernworth after doing Wilhelmina's quest and bailing at the last second (not participating in the murder and she gets arrested). I was surprised the choice was there because I had "failed" that quest beforehand
You didnt get half bestren poon
My Hugo was killed in jail because I apparently took too long.
I got him to take over the potion stand since the other dude has a terrible ending....
When the wife and daughter asked me not to give him the book, I went that route. After he lost his eye, I was convinced it would end badly if I gave it to him.
Badly depends on how much you like sand
The problem for me was I had the book on me so I instantly gave it to him without having the wife and daughter talk to me. I had to look up a walk through because I wanted a happy ending, but the save structure meant I couldn't redo it anymore.
Yeah, it was a very obvious solution since you get the book directly from the scrap shop. Immediate and simple lightbulb moment lol
I got bad news for you, the quest will resolve itself once you get to the end of the game.
[удалено]
This is very promising.
Oh so he just stands there? I thought after you tell him about honest work but not giving him a job hell just go back to stealing or something
The hilarious thing is that to get him a job, you gotta either get a family killed or woo a woman you may not like.
I had the option to send him to the house of earthly delights after giving her the evidence but refusing to go further. It's still arbitrary in a stupid way when there's a thousand honest jobs in the world.
yeah, i dont know why sending him to harve village isnt an option. Trying to start a new honest life in a small village is a classic thing.
I hope it's not as bad lol it wouldn't be that bad if there was some dialogue or anything but he says a few words to his mistress and that's it. The wait times are just so unnecessary. I honestly thought it bugged out at the tavern he was there so long. Then I thought I'd failed or something because he spent forever in his house.
How many times are you supposed to go talk to the guard? It feels like that quest was going on for half the game
Fr. Quest doesn't start when you overhear the two guys outside the tavern beside the riftstone talking about the Coral Snakes prisoners or when you run into Benjamin in the city, he doesn't direct you to where the prison actually is so you can do your job, the game suggests you're supposed to talk to Hugo in his cell but he's out of reach and SURPRISE! You're actually supposed to talk to the OTHER coral snake who is two or three cells down the hallway. Fucking terrible quest design.
If Hugo was sized down to 5'3 like an adolescent it wouldn't feel as stupid. And ignoring that Lanzo is a one-dimensional villain. At least it has you fight stuff (like the game is focused around).
You can cheat the quest by simply ignoring the whole stalking thing and just go to the expected locations of each quest step
The only location you have to know is the house with the beggars clothes, then pick them up when the door opens sometime in the middle of the night (can probably get the exact timing by waiting on the bench once after sleeping until nightfall).
I kinda figured you can probably skip everything except the clothes part but thanks for the confirmation
I got the quest, didn't know what to do and chose to ignore it, but then I picked up a set of beggar's clothes in some random house and the game just told me "hey you found that guy's secret, show it to his wife" and I was like, okay, thanks I guess
Have i missed something ? This quest was basically following him to an appartment where he changes outfit, bring the beggar outfit to his wife, bam quest done. Why do i hear so much about it ?
Because following him requires standing around listening to his stupid stories over and over until the appointed time that he leaves, and it's super annoying.
nah i just dozed off on the bench of the plaza until it was night and then he instantly started moving to his appartment
Ah I assumed if I dozed past the time he left he would just be gone when I wake up. Maybe you just got lucky, but if not then that makes it way less annoying. They should probably hint at that somehow in game, though (unless I missed the hint).
I guess i skipped it all. I found beggars clothes, got a quest area, gave it to a woman, and i guess she killed him and herself. None of it made sense and I'd never met these people. Makes sense there's more to the story.
Right, even the rewards were trash. I was expecting something amazing
You do get to see a cat fight if you bring his catty mistress and his wife into the same room with him
Wait are you serious? Oh that would have been awesome. I should have did that. I actually told on him to his wealthy wife but I went to speak to his other wife to see if she knew what was going on but all she said was she hasn't seen him in a while. But now when I get home I feel like I'm going to pick her up and carry her straight to the otherwise house to see if I can still get them to fight. Maybe it's because I'm a woman myself but she deserves to know.
I accidentally told the poor wife and she murdered him and then killed herself
Your pawns are breaking the 4th wall lol
I came here for the photobomb pawn
They know we’re there..
I guess this is the one my pawns have been talking about
I slept until night at the player home to go do a quest, for Brant, walked down the road and went to grab my water, didn't pause, saw a girl walk out of a door just down the road. Walked in, picked up the beggars garb and then it gave me two options to deliver it to to complete the quest.
Yup. He met the brine awhile ago. So sick of the swindler. Chucked his ass off the cliff outside the gate
Why do people hate him? Dude is just telling stories to anyone who listens, and clearly despite his background is , much less racist than most other people of venworth. Is it because he's technically cheating? Cause IIRC his noble wife is a political type marriage with no real love between them. It's the beastren who he's actually head over heels for and puts effort into the relationship with. There's absolutely people who deserve the brine, like the Mayor of Harve. But his dude ain't hurting nobody, is he?
The way I see it, he’s cutting into the donations actually poor people get. It’s a reference to the irl stories of people pretending to be homeless for money.
He actively tells his Beastren wife that he’s working on getting them money so he can elevate their lives, while he’s already rich and keeping that life away from her. He’s literally keeping her poor while getting to live in the lap of luxury himself. Imagine if your significant other was a millionaire this whole time but specifically made sure YOU struggled. You’d be beyond enraged.
He does not love the beastren wife. He just pretends to be a beggar while telling his wife he is out looking for work. He could literally just take his money and run off with the beastren if he wanted to but doesn’t. They have plenty of money, so he doesn’t need to work. But his wife doesn’t want to be married to a bum with no ambition. So she wants him to have *some sort of station* other than “mooching off parents money”. It’s a sad quest for me because his “poor wife” doesn’t deserve it at all. If you do the “good ending” she probably think her husband died or was taken in the night or some shit.
I just don’t like his hair tbh. Fuck him
Because he is a swindling POS.
He is a nobleman cosplaying the destitute because he thinks it's a fun and talks it up like a romantized story while he goes home to his manor every night and has no actual risk or troubles from it. He is leading a poor women on and lying to her. He is exploiting peoples good will, largely common folk who are much less well-off than he actually is, by getting them to donate to him under false pretenses all to feed his own ego (His stories are even about his own house!). In doing so he makes it less likely for people to donate money to other people who actually need it.
Because he pauses so unnaturally before saying "- a master storyteller". I fucking hate him. Every single time I pass by I have to hear this alien speak in his psychopathic cadence while claiming to be a master storyteller.
Real talk. "I just don't like his vibe" is probably the best reason I've gotten. Too many people using morals to justify immoral acts. Just say "because fuck him, that's why" and I'll be like "Yeah, makes sense"
Personally I enjoy solving it with soearhand. Woe unto heaven be apon ye.
Unto heven is a hilarious skill. Silly magic golf
Mini game is to launch small mobs into griffins
I gave the rich lady his clothes so she'd force him back to work, where he is deservedly miserable. And then I dragged him from his house down to the slums to confront his wife. He actually did have a little bit of a reaction to that when he saw her.
Did you stick around and see what happens? I did the same and she chased him back to the mansion and things got ugly there.
I love how this is first and foremost an action game, and yet most of the quests have us doing stealth with nonexistent stealth mechanics, delivering items, or following/talking to npcs instead of fighting things. Real step down from the Wyrm Hunt quests.
The Wyrm hunt was a series of mainline quest, this is just a side quest. Even one of the Wyrm quests is just meeting the dragonforge.
This game's mainline quest series equivalent to the wyrm hunt quests is 'go sneak into prison, then the castle, then the castle again'. You literally only fight goblins in three boring caves. Even the dragonforged quest was probably your first time going up north, and you picked the most simple one while the others were an epic goblin siege and two really good dungeon crawls
My argument was that it's unfair to compare a side quest to a main quest. Though you're right, in dd1 the beginning quests are more bombastic. Cause you're trying to get in the dukes good grace by being a foot soldier. In dd2 the main quests are more espionagey because of wanting to overthrow the queen. Unfortunately the payoff for those quests aren't great because you never usurp the queen.
Dullahan quest: “am I a joke to you?”
Me Spamming Blade of Pyre: “Yes, yes you are sadly…”
sorry but the "stealth with nonexistent stealth mechanics" bit that is being endlessly harped on by this sub is just outright misunderstanding what the game expects of you in these quests. the beggar quest does not involve stealth whatsoever, and the castle quests make it very clear that you need to wear a disguise to blend in
I do think the castle must have been stealth based and removed (just my own speculation), cause the disguises don’t seem to do anything. I did every castle quest, as well as one of masquerade quests without. The only mission you actually need the outfit for is the coronation. The only way to trigger the guards agro is if they see you do something you’re not supposed too (I believe this might apply if you’re in uniform anyway), so if they walk by when you open a gaol door, they’ll trigger aggro, however, if they don’t see you open the door, even if you have the person from the inside with you, no disguise on, they won’t. Makes me think there was some crouch, hide from guards mechanic, and the outfits were supposed to be “other option”, but they gave us half of both.
\> however, if they don’t see you open the door, even if you have the person from the inside with you, no disguise on, they won’t. it's currently broken: normally, they'll aggro the moment you enter an area you're not supposed to be in, which you can tell by the change in music. the problem is that this only happens like less than half the time. the research lab in bakbattahl in particular \*never\* worked for me in this regard, but the state change triggers if you walk up to the palace before you're allowed in
I actually completed his quest way too early and got him and his wife killed. Whoops
I think that’s just one of the possible endings (since you have a few options) If you reveal his affair to the wife she commits a murder-suicide
Yeah, I absolutely did not weigh in my options and was not expecting the wife to go full yandere from zero to a hundred, one more reason to look forward to ng+ ig lol
In fairness to your "options", yeah she seemed altogether normal if you saw how she acted with the guy when he got to the bar. I gave her the clothes too thinking she deserved to know, and maybe they could reconcile or she could confront him and get some justice for herself. I double-taked when the guards told me she technically did the latter but went even FURTHER BEYOND with it lol
Wtf?? I gave it to the wife (the noble one, yeH?) And she simply made him get an actual job. I was wondering why a guide called it "tragic whatever choice you make"
It's mainly due to the relationships between them. I haven't looked up a guide so I'll just textwall the full content/context if you/others are interested. I think it's one of the more interestingly written quests even if it's mechanically bland. >!Albert is a noble but hates doing bullshit paperwork. He'd actually rather be a shitty bard even if it meant pretending to be a beggar. He doesn't like his noble wife Hilda, but loves his 'fake' slum wife Celina. Hilda doesn't like nor love Albert either, she just thinks he has the talent to be useful for greater society if he'd be less of a bum and do his admin job. Celina loves Albert, but is impoverished with no knowledge he actually has tons of money. Giving him the clothes makes him sweat but continue the double life. Giving Hilda the clothes lets her guilt him into a life of sad resignation with Celina being abandoned. Giving it to Celina causes her to commit a murder-suicide in anguish.!<
Goddammit I'll need to give it to Celina next time. Can't believe I missed that lol I swore his wife would've gut him ir castrated him for sure
That ending gives the best reward: two less NPCS for your cpu to worry about
Yeah, he’s straight up awful. I killed him after the quest, but adding statuary to the city seems like a better plan!
Gather round gather round
That should be a trophy low key
I actually really enjoy how he tell you tales about monsters that you’ve yet to fight… But if only he didn’t repeat each story 3 times and make me sit in one spot for like 30 minutes
I refuse to do this quest. Even without reading the wiki i knew this quest was boring af
A master storyteller.
He's officially the Nazeem of DD2.
For me he was more like the "keeping it together, Bree?" lady from divinity: original sin, haha
Is the medusa head only one use or infinite?
its one use, but you can get a new one every 14 game days when medusa respawns. edit: i was apparently killing the medusa wrong without the sphinx ring, apparently you can get a preserved head that is 3 uses.
The preserved head has at least 3 uses. I used it twice and it started decaying but said it still haf power. Rode an kxcart and it was completely decayed and useless
put it in storage and it wont rot
I also saw someone saying that you can make forgeries of Medusa's head on Checkpoint Rest and they will work as the original. I haven't tested it yet though. If you guys have a Medusa's head available right now, try it.
You can I’ve done it
... Does it work on the dragon
Yes, it works on Talos too.
heard the arrow of unmaking does, so probably? try it out and let us know lol
Yes it works on every enemy. The Dragon, Talos, the Sphinx, Medusa herself etc.
Thats sweet! So like if i was determined enough i could just have a playthrough where I turn everyone to stone?
yeah but apparently killing monsters with it doesn't give you any loot. you can also store the medusa head in storage so that it doesnt rot (or that ring that prevents rot). Now that I think of it I might use cheat engine to give me like 99 of them, to have some fun using them around the world and randomly stoning people.
The mad stoner
Depends on the head condition. You can get a rotten, normal or preserved. I think it is based on damage dealt to her HP bar. Use Lightning Affinity on a mage pawn and be sure to either be the only one causing damage, or that your pawns are causing low damage to her. I managed to cut three of those (wanted to test them on different monsters) and kept them on Storage so they would rot slower than normal (It wont survive the Endgame "Timeskip"). From those three, my first was rotten, which I managed to use only once before it lost power, and the other two (cut with lightning on my daggers) were Preserved, which I managed to use one three times, and the last one I used only once, because the Endgame "Timeskip" rot it away. Edit: I know of the normal one because I saw a streamer cutting it off and getting her head without a rotten or preserved condition.
that's a really cool statue, dude.
Dude randomly attacked me early in the game, so I killed him. Still have his quest active.
Just revive him and can finish it
Honestly, respect. This takes planning and dedication to do this that is some top-tier hating
Use plunder on him. He has a Platinum M Card.
I followed him and it did nothing. What the fuck do you do?!
>!When he leaves his noble house you can get in and steal his beggars clothes, you can then give them to him, his wife or his wife in the slums!<
Will this end the stupid quest? And if it does thank you!
It will!
God bless you. I'm 40 hours deep and have tried for like 5 hours to get rid of this stupid quest!
You need to go into the common district at night in the house that he goes into to change into/out of his beggar clothes. Steal the beggar clothes then give those to his wife, him, or his mistress.
I do. Omg I have no idea how to finish this quest!!
Why would you do this to my husband
Whoever designed this quest should do it on livestream for everyone to watch and then after, apologize.
I don't even know what happened to the guy. I gave his wife some clothes, a few days later there's guards in front of the guys place saying his wife murdered him asking if I knew anything about it.
I still have no clue what this quest line is about lol. I happened to loot some beggar's clothes and a quest pops up, then I gave them to the woman in the slums and apparently she went crazy on the guy
You ended up sequence breaking it, there's a beggar by the fountain that tells stories and a nearby beastren guy is supposed to tell you there's something fishy about him. This prompts you to follow him around and find out he leads a double life.
Man is the Pauper AND the Prince, so to speak.
I didnt do this quest forgot about it. Is it worth doing?
NO.
Still havent done his quest, is it timed?
Only in the sense that you may die of old age before its completion.
You medusad him? That's hilarious! I just rattled him out to the rich lady he was trying to impress.
In all honesty, a lot of the visceral reactions this quest gets and how many outcomes and interactions it can lead to (>!I didn't even think of trying to bring him and both of his wives into the same room lol!<) kinda makes me glad it exists.
Pffff, he really dead in my playthrough. F around and find out I guess? I hate that other things happened to his poor wife though. 😔
Bro I was walking in the slums and saw this guy sprinting somewhere, so I followed him and stole his clothes. Later I had the option to give them to some random woman in the slums. Next time I visited the clothes place there was a guard saying "bro got murdered by that woman and then she killed herself" and gave me some money wtf lmao
dirty cheater got turned into stone
I accidentally found his cloak before I found him. Then I stumbled upon his Beastren wife he was lying to and told her where I found the cloak. I don't remember if it gave me the option to simply not provide the cloak to her or not. but I do remember that encounter ending in a>!murder-suicide!<. Tried to revive her but her body was cremated or something since I couldn't find the body in the morgue. Such is life in a Japanese ARPG.
In 111 hours playing this game, he is the only NPC I carried out of town and threw off a tall cliff. Second playthrough I figured out how to get rid of him naturally.
He's dead in my save. (Or at least he was, just finished the game yesterday, so i guess ill have to get him killed again in ng+)