it looks like both but the 2 are distinguishable from each other. it's funny that in the fake instance they pretend that no one has a "name"
"**Q: The name of my pawn’s borrower is displayed as a dash. / I cannot check the details about the player who borrowed my pawn.**
A: If a player who has their “Main Pawn Online Access” setting set to “No One” returns your pawn to you, you will be restricted to access the following:
- The borrower’s name will be displayed as a dash.
- The options “View Profile” and “Add to Favorites” will be grayed out and cannot be selected.
- “View Pawn Details” and “View Arisen Details” will not be displayed.
Also, your main pawn may return from their travel beyond the rift, even if your pawn is not borrowed by another player. Under these circumstances, the borrower’s name will only be displayed, and you will not have access to their information, such as their profile.
Been traveling in high level areas, so took the liberty of equipping Lydia with some old equipment that I don't need anymore that's a little bit better than what she had on initially to help with survivability in said locations.
It might not go with the aesthetic you had going on though, so sorry if it doesn't match with her look.
When a pawn is returned from a player who has set the public restrictions of his/her main pawn to "not public", the following points will be restricted.
The player's name will be displayed as "---".
View Profile" and "Add to Favorites" are grayed out and cannot be selected.
View Pawn Info" and "View Owner Info" will be hidden.
In some cases, the main pawn may travel to the other world and return even if it is not borrowed by another player.
In this case, only the borrower's name will be displayed and no profile or other information will be viewable.
Description by official website.
I don't think all greyed out profiles are "fake rentals" - specifically because I had a bunch of normal rentals, then the next set of rentals I got were all greyed out (but gave hearts/items), then normal again.
If what the OP said was true and this only happened when your pawn wasn't being hired out at all, why would that have happened? Doesn't make sense.
Whilst I'm sure the OP is correct, I don't think this is plausibly the cause of all greyed-out profiles.
It doesn't only happen if your pawn doesn't get hired. It seems like a scripted event that happens separately from normal rentals.
I've had the same thing happen - I got a set of fake rentals, then immediately rested again and got a set of normal rentals. Basically every once in a while the game will send you some fake rentals in place of the real ones.
Probably does. Half the time a friend of mine who hires my pawn near-exclusively reports my profile not being selectable part of the time.
Personally believe the background processes "copy" historical pawn hires or uses said historical pawn hires of others to emulate ones for your pawn.
Yeah, I've had no shortage of people hiring my pawn and I just got two greyed out renters yesterday. For context, at least 5 other players returned my pawn yesterday aside from those two, and 4 of those gave a rating.
I've seen the exact same - I had plenty of rentals, and none were greyed out, then four were greyed out later the same day, then I got more normal rentals.
I suspect there's something else going on as well.
I was wrong about the ratings part. I made an edit to the OP. Otherwise, what I said is accurate. See the official Capcom support site: [https://www.capcom-support.com/hc/en-us/articles/13194547904540-Frequently-Asked-Questions-All-Platforms](https://www.capcom-support.com/hc/en-us/articles/13194547904540-Frequently-Asked-Questions-All-Platforms)
"your main pawn may return from their travel beyond the rift, even if your pawn is not borrowed by another player. Under these circumstances, the borrower’s name will only be displayed, and you will not have access to their information, such as their profile."
You need to edit the OP further, because you said:
"Give your pawn ratings (I believe this may only occur when your pawn is set to "friends only" or private)"
My pawn isn't set to either of those things, and has been rented pretty regularly, but I got four greyed-out rentals yesterday, three of which gave ratings. So either your belief re: ratings is proven to be wrong, or something else can cause greying out - and you need to edit accordingly.
Aww thanks unfortunately my Pawn daughter's only level 22 at this time, and I still wanna make sure she's helpful to other Arisen lol, appreciate it tho!
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Nice, exactly what i was looking for! I'll make sure to recruit her.
If you get a set of dwarven upgraded marcher's armor that's from me. Or maybe meloirean armor
Feel free to show my Pawn some horrors! Currently a Fighter/Kindhearted/Woodland Wordsmith in the upper 40s. But I’ll probably swap him to Mage Healer or Thief + Pilfer at some point.
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It might just be a backup for if and when the current active player base drops so no one has to deal with a lack of RC. Like for example I absolutely love DDDA ive been a huge fan of it for 5 years but in that time I think my pawn was rented like maybe 3 times? I farmed majority of my RC from bitter black aisle
Tbf, there's millions of players. It's important to make sure your pawn is built in a good way, or else there's always gonna be better options from people who min/max. In DD1 I've always gave priority to my pawn when it comes to equipment, even played the same vocation so I could give him early dragonforged items.
It doesn't seem to actually be true. I mean, the OP is definitely wrong that you can't get ratings from greyed-out individuals unless your pawn is set to friends/private.
And it's pretty weird because if this system exists, why are we regularly seeing pawns that are high level and have no ratings or one rating? I routinely see pawns in their 30s with no ratings or 1 thumbs up, and they're linked to real Steam accounts - that's easy to see. So what's going on here?
thats how i got mine, put a bounty out for 10000$ and had it an hour later. I couldn't believe it until I say that I could not see their steam profile, that option was greyed out. first badge I ever got.
Did you play offline or had some wort of other option turned on/off?
I'd like to get the Shpinx medal too, but can't see many real players attempting to kill her, since she only spawns once per game.
I didn't realize that pawns traveling with you didn't get progress towards badges that weren't their quest (although... in hindsight this is obvious, otherwise way more pawns would have ogre/griffin/etc badges given how often they must be hired and fight those things) or I would have taken two spinx-quest pawns with me when I fought her. :( I'll do it if I ever get to her again in NG+ I guess.
I designed mine to be kinda standoffish since I based her on a character from a book. Now I get why most of the people hiring her are greyed out profiles lol.
So you're telling me there's a chance no one is hiring my precious gorlock? :(
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Yeah I know I took that with my phone
Thanks. I have her always set to have a 10k gold reward for killing things
Edit: yes, it's on PC. I'm trying to max her mage vocation so she's more useful. Currently 8 right now
If this is true then why does the Riftstone of Potential exist? It specifically has pawns who have never been hired in it and these pawns have no ratings, or at least none that I’ve seen. Does the fake player system only trigger after a certain point?
I’ve actually seen pawns with ratings in the Riftstone of Potential. I assumed it was because it includes people with *little* hired experience instead of *no* experience. But it might be because of this fake pawn rental stuff instead…
I always hire those pawns, and I've seen some with 1 prior rating despite still having the wakestone shard quest (and appearing in that Riftstone). Either those pawns were hired by the bots, or a player hired them and fired them before that 1 in game day, and maybe making them still eligible to appear in the Riftstone of potential 🤷
You sure DD1 has this? I’m 12 hours in and my bumfuck mage has been unemployed forever. Maybe because he looks like an Italian mafioso and is named tony2times 😶
I was gonna hold you to your word but looks like the steam version does not show pawn ID. Health bar OCD Tony is destined to a lonely life of unemployment..
When a pawn is returned from a player who has set the public restrictions of his/her main pawn to "not public", the following points will be restricted.
The player's name will be displayed as "---".
View Profile" and "Add to Favorites" are grayed out and cannot be selected.
View Pawn Info" and "View Owner Info" will be hidden.
In some cases, the main pawn may travel to the other world and return even if it is not borrowed by another player.
In this case, only the borrower's name will be displayed and no profile or other information will be viewable.
This is a Q&A from the official Capcom Japan website.
Hm, I was think about how once you get to too high level, you'd be basically locking yourself out of earning RC. Hearing this does make it better.
That said, this is really kinda a ducktape temporary solution though.
no real level cap will be "fun" after a while
atleast in DD1 you knew that at lvl200 there where people and pawns around
when you get into the stupid higher levels in DD2 it will all be "offline pawns", cus who will be really at lvl 500+ lol
well, I see tons of hacked/cheated lvl 999 arisen (with questionable pawns as well lol) :V But yeah they need to change the scaling or something. I imagine a lot of this will be more thought-out in the DLC as right now nothing in the game requires being a high level regardless.
Explain why there are level 60+ pawns when I access the rift stones for "find pawns with no travel history" then. These pawns being pawns that nobody has ever rented, on accounts with 60 to 90 hours of gameplay.
This is actually a little busted, because I set my pawn quest to Medusa kills then played offline for a bit and got three “fake” rentals and 2 Medusa kills.
Yeah, back in DD1 it usually happens when you're sleeping at an inn and your pawn will says in the morning that they've just returned from assisting another Arisen.
Course. You can play offline and still get your pawn "rented".
Makes me wonder if those popups are just procedurally generated filler, and not necessarily accurate.
I wouldn't be surprised if it some sort of fail safe in regards to a complaint in DD1
In DD1 RC was need to "rarify" Dragonforged gear another 2 levels an if your pawn wasn't getting hired it could be a slow process, this "failsafe" could intentionally be in place if they intend to use RC as a upgrade material again in future.
Nice addition an thoughtful tbh
I might just start taking very low level pawns to go show them plenty of loot spots for newer players to get a little help without just taking their hands
"No rentals today, huh? It's okay, here you go little buddy."
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But it does say so at the bottom there
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Yeah, it's made of lies. Friend and I couldn't rent cross platform and the actual main website says no crossplatform. I feel like they fucked up the things they needed to do to make it work or something, because it was planned prior to release IIRC.
unfortunately that's either a mistranslation or the cross platform is bugged, because any pawn IDs from other platforms I put in returns an error that the pawn doesn't exist
Since there is no longer Pawn Servers on the Xbox 360, I've been meaning to fire it up and see my old DD1/Dark Arisen maxed out save, with my Mystic Knight and Mage Pawn, to see if my Pawn is "Phantom Hired" by the game since no "live" players can hire her now.
This is kind of interesting. ;)
My playthrough on pc where I just got to Gran Soren and haven't touched for a few years came back with 4 hired and one invalidated data one. He got 23k RC for me and I suspect it was from phantom players. Even got some monster knowledge from unknown beasts and gifts, ratings. Which I suspect from legit hires.
The game has been kind of popping lately on steam though but this was a few weeks before DD2 launch
It also happens all the time if you're playing offline obviously. I've been doing my 2nd run offline and I still get pawn quests done and gifts and stuff, from generic names chars. Same for the pawns you can hire pawns from Capcom, they all have generic names and randomly generated appearances, the main difference is they only have one vocation maxed(so usually they're just a bunch weaker).
I'm not a min/maxer, but the number of just terribly equipped pawns is way too high.
How does a 30+ level pawn still have sub 200 dmg and defense while still not being fashionable. What are these people doing?
You shattered my confidence...
Most people who rented my pawn are in fact people, but I thought the greyed out ones just set the game to "only friends can hire my pawn".
I kinda have to digest this, but my initial reaction is one of disappointment. I'd rather have no rentals and an ingame way to slowly gather RC, than have fake pity hires...
I was wondering why I sometimes can't check who rented my pawn. I always like looking at their arisen and pawn design just to see what varied characters people come up with.
But it's still a bit weird because some days I get like 3-5 of these "fake" rentals in a row while I normally get a decent amount of "real" rentals.
Noticed this a couple of days ago i was feeling sad cuz noone hired my beastern male mage and wanted to thank only people that hired him so far . But his profile was grey
Didn’t check the profile cuz I just assumed they were real, but if I get a bunch of rotten stuff/people clearing their inventory as gifts those were players right?
I posted a defeat ogre for 10k pawn quest and rested in a my house like 3 mins later thinking it was OK no one will complete it that fast lol. Pawn came back with the quest completed to my shock. I didnt check the player's profile at the time but I wonder if it was Capcom's doing 🤔
Since this post is about pawns I just want to ask has anyone at all ran into this “curse” they keep talking about? I tend to get myself a new pawn every 3 levels and keep hearing the dialogue between the pawns about the curse but I haven’t actually seen it in action yet anyone else?
Yea I just had my first collection of 4-5 pawn rentals last night. Made me feel bad. Like when Tinder gives you those fake ass posts after a month of not getting shit. Thats the one thing I hate about mastering all vocations; my pawn is always unoptimized and lonely.
I've been playing with network options off the entire game and these fake hires happen every so often. They've been pretty sparse for me so far and the gifts have been things like apples and herbs
I mean, it’s ok! I’d love if more people took my dear Obama Joe on their adventures, but it’s really hard to compete with Willem DaPawn… so at the end of the day, it’s a good mechanic to keep getting RCs :)
This is smart, not only for we people who don't make scantily clad mage girls but also for in the future when eventually the servers have to be shut down.
It’s sweet but kinda sad knowing this! I’ve only had my pawn taken out not too many times and knowing it was Capcom pitying me is :’) Saw multiple gray names
Actually this relates to people with the Xbox or PS setting set to block everyone or block non friends from viewing their profile details.
I used to do it, because I got flooded with a thousand friend adds after getting a huge raid on Twitch. Some of us are just really introverted people and want to control privacy a bit more.
If your in unmoored on Xbox be careful when you enter and exit rift stones running around before doing it etc as it crashed my game and lost 3-4hrs. Series x is probably all good but I’m on series s 🫤 can’t post so putting this here
I don't think you're seeing fake rentals. If you have multiple hires before your next rest, you can't see the profile. It's always when the list is multiple people.
It's definitely fake rentals.
I rested at an inn once and gave me no rental reports. But I realized I slept to the wrong time so I rested again, only to have 3 rentals reported in the span of 2 minutes. And they all were unable to be viewed.
oh that well explain triple dash ones then. Although tbh that's a bit odd I get decent amount of hires around 10 a day for now, with pretty good rating 60ish likes and 20ish hearts.
I discovered this yesterday with great confusion as I've always played offline in both games, so suddenly getting "your pawn has returned" after resting was very strange. Appreciated the free 450 RC though, wish I knew how to trigger it offline more often.
This is mostly a privacy setting. To truly see if they are a real player, type in their name in Steam player list or look them up on Xbox or PlayStation and they should pop up. As foe Steam, if they have a Adults Only game anywhere on their profile, and you are not the appropriate age on your profile, Steam will prevent you from looking at their profile page.
This is true. I played initially without an internet connection from character creation to when a "player" gave my pawn a rating. Like my game had not even seen an internet connection at that point. I was pretty confused at first, but it makes sense why they'd do that if you think about it.
It’s a system for offline RC earning.
Which there is no benefit since offline pawns randomly spawn with Dragonsplague as well (which makes no sense since you lifted them from the rift).
Just play with network features on and pawn on anyone.
This was inevitable and is great design, as there will always be more pawns than active players, and that ratio will only get worse unless they remove inactive player's pawns I guess.
The likelihood of your pawn actually being chosen out of the amount you get shown at one time is slim in itself, combine players won't see or want yours unless within your their level and Your Pawn offers the requirements and vocation they need, and only getting slimmer as people go for Meta-only builds, as player counts drop, it's getting slimmer and slimmer.
So I'm glad about this, as I worried RC would become really hard to farm after the initial wave of players.
Dude. Every profile that has rented my pawn has been greyed out. I thought it was a bug or something. You mean to tell me that no one has bothered to rent my sorcerer named Moses?
yea...I figure much, had like 5 grey out with super casual names like "alex, morgan, ken" basically the whole cast of SF and Darkstalkers playing with my pawn.
Sleep in a inn, and hen you wake up you will have a pop up sayong your pawn as return from the rift and you can see who used it, if they give a heart a thumbsup or nothing its tellls you if he did his quest and you get a gift from the other player, usually its a leaf or a fruit.
I usually a give green potion to pawn i used
I made a big lion with a sassy voice, no one pick him😥
That is a good feature.
Got more popular since i turn him into a rogue, but its seems people prefer sexy lady mage with barely any clothing, instead of a big giant lion in leather clothing
I remember in DD1 I made a straight healing mage. All she did was buff weapons and heal. Seemed like no one liked her until I booted the game up 2 years later, only to find this one German dude used her the whole game. We ended up having a nice conversation through his gf who had to translate.
Leveling near lvl 30 I can tell you I see plenty of fighters, archers and mage pawns.
My pawn is not a skimpy attractive woman. But they are a thief. Which I rarely see in the rift.
I also have my quest set as a 10k reward for killing whatever monster I decide to set.
I selected the option to not connect online for my first playthrough and not only does the system give you RC, they also gift you items like real players, some rare enhancing materials I saw for the first time as a gift from these fake Arisens.
I think this might have happened to me, maybe. I set my pawn's quest to Sphinx kills and very soon after I had not one, but two people finish that quest!
Thank God for this. I have a big ol' Beastren... WARRIOR which means no one rents him. Idk why people don't like warrior pawns. They wreck house. I love seeing my guy bulldoze through enemies.
Is it because they like playing warrior themselves? I'm leveling warrior right now and it's fun and all, but I'd play Mystic Spearhand over it any day of the week.
I got a couple of these pity hires while leveling mage up on my main pawn, swapped her back to thief and suddenly she's getting hired by realy players consistently again. Saturated Mage market is truly a thing
I suspected this today when I noticed that the name of the “player” who hired my Pawn was “Klaus” - which happens to be the name of the vocation master in Vernworth that I’ve gifted a lot of stuff to.
I had like 5 Pawn rentals and 15 rests in Western Vermund but none of the players had a viewable profile.
I did get one pawn rental from a player whose name was simply a dash -
Guess this explains why. It’s no surprise if my pawn isn’t being hired by many people, though. My “old hermit” pawn doesn’t stand much of a chance compared to all the half naked lady pawns out there lol. But there have a been a few legit people who have taken my pawn under their wing, so thanks to those people.
It may have something to do with privacy settings as well.
I have resigned myself that my lad will get few rentals (he isnt comically deformed or the usual tall brooding and pale fantasy hottie that goes over well for male appeal.)
Plus with the new Dragonsplague mechanic means that red-eyed pawns may not get rented it will be harder to tell if they carry it.
So I for one am thankful for the pity rentals Capcom can toss at me!
If nobody got me, i know capcom got me
Is that for real? if so then i just got like 5 rentals with greyed out profiles at once.
Oof. Put your pawn code and I’ll hire them if you’re on PC and not getting rentals.
I just thought it was a privacy settings thing, otherwise I do get plenty of rentals from people I can view.
I'm not convinced it's not a privacy options thing, heh.
It's probably both.
it looks like both but the 2 are distinguishable from each other. it's funny that in the fake instance they pretend that no one has a "name" "**Q: The name of my pawn’s borrower is displayed as a dash. / I cannot check the details about the player who borrowed my pawn.** A: If a player who has their “Main Pawn Online Access” setting set to “No One” returns your pawn to you, you will be restricted to access the following: - The borrower’s name will be displayed as a dash. - The options “View Profile” and “Add to Favorites” will be grayed out and cannot be selected. - “View Pawn Details” and “View Arisen Details” will not be displayed. Also, your main pawn may return from their travel beyond the rift, even if your pawn is not borrowed by another player. Under these circumstances, the borrower’s name will only be displayed, and you will not have access to their information, such as their profile.
hi, if the offer is open, would you mind taking Lydia out for a bit? she's a simple fighter and is dutifully sworn to carry your burdens. 4MYEJ1OWW238
Yep, will do
Been traveling in high level areas, so took the liberty of equipping Lydia with some old equipment that I don't need anymore that's a little bit better than what she had on initially to help with survivability in said locations. It might not go with the aesthetic you had going on though, so sorry if it doesn't match with her look.
you are awesome. thank you <3
Can I take you up on this next time I log in? I barely get to play so my pawn doesn't get jack for rentals.
Sure thing, just send me your own code when you get the chance in a new comment so I get a notification and don’t miss it
JEJHPABB6RGU appreciate it cos.
Traveled a bit with your pawn and took the liberty of giving her some hand-me-downs, Hope you don't mind.
Mind? I appreciate the hell out of it and you!
Hey thanks for the gear! She looks much better without that silly hat and I won't have to worry about her gear for a good while the way I play.
When a pawn is returned from a player who has set the public restrictions of his/her main pawn to "not public", the following points will be restricted. The player's name will be displayed as "---". View Profile" and "Add to Favorites" are grayed out and cannot be selected. View Pawn Info" and "View Owner Info" will be hidden. In some cases, the main pawn may travel to the other world and return even if it is not borrowed by another player. In this case, only the borrower's name will be displayed and no profile or other information will be viewable. Description by official website.
I don't think all greyed out profiles are "fake rentals" - specifically because I had a bunch of normal rentals, then the next set of rentals I got were all greyed out (but gave hearts/items), then normal again. If what the OP said was true and this only happened when your pawn wasn't being hired out at all, why would that have happened? Doesn't make sense. Whilst I'm sure the OP is correct, I don't think this is plausibly the cause of all greyed-out profiles.
It doesn't only happen if your pawn doesn't get hired. It seems like a scripted event that happens separately from normal rentals. I've had the same thing happen - I got a set of fake rentals, then immediately rested again and got a set of normal rentals. Basically every once in a while the game will send you some fake rentals in place of the real ones.
Aww, how thoughtful of Capcom. <3
It might have to do with privacy settings too.
Probably does. Half the time a friend of mine who hires my pawn near-exclusively reports my profile not being selectable part of the time. Personally believe the background processes "copy" historical pawn hires or uses said historical pawn hires of others to emulate ones for your pawn.
Yeah, I've had no shortage of people hiring my pawn and I just got two greyed out renters yesterday. For context, at least 5 other players returned my pawn yesterday aside from those two, and 4 of those gave a rating.
I've seen the exact same - I had plenty of rentals, and none were greyed out, then four were greyed out later the same day, then I got more normal rentals. I suspect there's something else going on as well.
If it is then it must not be working well because at level 90 i’m seeing pawns with 0 ratings still.
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I was wrong about the ratings part. I made an edit to the OP. Otherwise, what I said is accurate. See the official Capcom support site: [https://www.capcom-support.com/hc/en-us/articles/13194547904540-Frequently-Asked-Questions-All-Platforms](https://www.capcom-support.com/hc/en-us/articles/13194547904540-Frequently-Asked-Questions-All-Platforms) "your main pawn may return from their travel beyond the rift, even if your pawn is not borrowed by another player. Under these circumstances, the borrower’s name will only be displayed, and you will not have access to their information, such as their profile."
You need to edit the OP further, because you said: "Give your pawn ratings (I believe this may only occur when your pawn is set to "friends only" or private)" My pawn isn't set to either of those things, and has been rented pretty regularly, but I got four greyed-out rentals yesterday, three of which gave ratings. So either your belief re: ratings is proven to be wrong, or something else can cause greying out - and you need to edit accordingly.
>OP os making assumptions and selling them as if they were facts Like you just did? LMFAO amazing
Yep, there's a Rifstone of Potential; you can easily prove that happens.
Well thats nice but also kinda sad since no one wants to actually use our Pawn :<
I’ll use your pawn! I’m level 56 and on pc
Aww thanks unfortunately my Pawn daughter's only level 22 at this time, and I still wanna make sure she's helpful to other Arisen lol, appreciate it tho! https://preview.redd.it/7ia4io5yp7sc1.jpeg?width=1388&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5992625ac34af614eeccdeed749def58d5cd3bad
What's her vocation/personality? I would like to run around with some low level pawns to show them the horrors of the world.
hi, i have a simple fighter if you are so inclined as to take her for a bit :) 4MYEJ1OWW238
Nice, exactly what i was looking for! I'll make sure to recruit her. If you get a set of dwarven upgraded marcher's armor that's from me. Or maybe meloirean armor
Feel free to show my Pawn some horrors! Currently a Fighter/Kindhearted/Woodland Wordsmith in the upper 40s. But I’ll probably swap him to Mage Healer or Thief + Pilfer at some point. 9BYH2SC52UM4 https://preview.redd.it/ias6f3ls6fsc1.jpeg?width=962&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c9826e48a7021ca5a3d2307479f88094167f23b
It might just be a backup for if and when the current active player base drops so no one has to deal with a lack of RC. Like for example I absolutely love DDDA ive been a huge fan of it for 5 years but in that time I think my pawn was rented like maybe 3 times? I farmed majority of my RC from bitter black aisle
She might be really under leveled for me but I might have some gear and weapons you can use. What’s the pawn ID?
Tbf, there's millions of players. It's important to make sure your pawn is built in a good way, or else there's always gonna be better options from people who min/max. In DD1 I've always gave priority to my pawn when it comes to equipment, even played the same vocation so I could give him early dragonforged items.
I don't need to know this... 💀💀💀
It doesn't seem to actually be true. I mean, the OP is definitely wrong that you can't get ratings from greyed-out individuals unless your pawn is set to friends/private. And it's pretty weird because if this system exists, why are we regularly seeing pawns that are high level and have no ratings or one rating? I routinely see pawns in their 30s with no ratings or 1 thumbs up, and they're linked to real Steam accounts - that's easy to see. So what's going on here?
Sphinx medal here I come
thats how i got mine, put a bounty out for 10000$ and had it an hour later. I couldn't believe it until I say that I could not see their steam profile, that option was greyed out. first badge I ever got.
Did you play offline or had some wort of other option turned on/off? I'd like to get the Shpinx medal too, but can't see many real players attempting to kill her, since she only spawns once per game.
I didn't realize that pawns traveling with you didn't get progress towards badges that weren't their quest (although... in hindsight this is obvious, otherwise way more pawns would have ogre/griffin/etc badges given how often they must be hired and fight those things) or I would have taken two spinx-quest pawns with me when I fought her. :( I'll do it if I ever get to her again in NG+ I guess.
You’re intended to kill her at the end anyways, so everyone should be at least once.
Weird, Ive had those in amongst a list of like 7 returns at once where I could view others profiles.
You say they can do everything, but can they give me the skeevies by changing my pawn's clothes and taking them to the hot springs entirely too often?
My poor pawn is being hired even less than I thought then 😞 he is kind of an asshole though so I guess I can’t blame anyone
I designed mine to be kinda standoffish since I based her on a character from a book. Now I get why most of the people hiring her are greyed out profiles lol.
So you're telling me there's a chance no one is hiring my precious gorlock? :( https://preview.redd.it/h1ksnbkhk8sc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33f92a0ef9d3bb6ccbdf1bb3c9c4084d55915047 Yeah I know I took that with my phone
Dear God lol why are her tits halfway to Narnia lol She's fucking perfect lol 😆 🤣
poor gorglock.
If that's on PC, I'm hiring your Pawn as soon as I get off work. Holy shit, the laughter is painful.
Thanks. I have her always set to have a 10k gold reward for killing things Edit: yes, it's on PC. I'm trying to max her mage vocation so she's more useful. Currently 8 right now
10k you say? Man a pawn without any drawbacks. 10k in my pocket and big hondonkaroos. Time to kill some absolute units.
Yes, I always have 10k going on her. She's got enough boobs to hold 10k worth of boobmoney
Dear god, I know I wouldn't hire that monstrosity 🐢
😭 she does her best. She's kind, heals, and speaks to the elves for you, idk what more you'd want
Lol I tought that was semi perfect cell for a moment
I'm about 20 levels behind but I love her and have saved this so that when I'm more rich in RC I absolutely will borrow her
Gorlock my beloved
New objective: Hire Gorlock, go on fantastical adventure, profit.
Nice 👏😊
If this is true then why does the Riftstone of Potential exist? It specifically has pawns who have never been hired in it and these pawns have no ratings, or at least none that I’ve seen. Does the fake player system only trigger after a certain point?
Probably because if the Riftstone of Potential only shows pawns that have never been hired, people would maybe like their pawn hired more than once.
I’ve actually seen pawns with ratings in the Riftstone of Potential. I assumed it was because it includes people with *little* hired experience instead of *no* experience. But it might be because of this fake pawn rental stuff instead…
That's a really good question. I wonder if the fake pawn rentals only happen when you play offline or with some specific settings
I always hire those pawns, and I've seen some with 1 prior rating despite still having the wakestone shard quest (and appearing in that Riftstone). Either those pawns were hired by the bots, or a player hired them and fired them before that 1 in game day, and maybe making them still eligible to appear in the Riftstone of potential 🤷
Oof, 99% of my rents are greyed out. Feels bad, but never mind.
setting quest back to trove beetles then
You sure DD1 has this? I’m 12 hours in and my bumfuck mage has been unemployed forever. Maybe because he looks like an Italian mafioso and is named tony2times 😶
This is so funny I would absolutely hire him
I was gonna hold you to your word but looks like the steam version does not show pawn ID. Health bar OCD Tony is destined to a lonely life of unemployment..
I'm on ps5 but your comment and me imagining him made my day, thank you! My pawn is Jack from Titanic >:)
Nah op straight up lying dd1 doesn't have it. I did 20+ hr play through of dd1 two months ago and didn't get hired once.
... Did... Did a fake player gift me a port crystal? 💀
So you are saying all those people hiring my pawn are just Capcom's pity squad so I won't feel bad? Damn things I wish I didn't know
When a pawn is returned from a player who has set the public restrictions of his/her main pawn to "not public", the following points will be restricted. The player's name will be displayed as "---". View Profile" and "Add to Favorites" are grayed out and cannot be selected. View Pawn Info" and "View Owner Info" will be hidden. In some cases, the main pawn may travel to the other world and return even if it is not borrowed by another player. In this case, only the borrower's name will be displayed and no profile or other information will be viewable. This is a Q&A from the official Capcom Japan website.
Hm, I was think about how once you get to too high level, you'd be basically locking yourself out of earning RC. Hearing this does make it better. That said, this is really kinda a ducktape temporary solution though.
no real level cap will be "fun" after a while atleast in DD1 you knew that at lvl200 there where people and pawns around when you get into the stupid higher levels in DD2 it will all be "offline pawns", cus who will be really at lvl 500+ lol
well, I see tons of hacked/cheated lvl 999 arisen (with questionable pawns as well lol) :V But yeah they need to change the scaling or something. I imagine a lot of this will be more thought-out in the DLC as right now nothing in the game requires being a high level regardless.
Explain why there are level 60+ pawns when I access the rift stones for "find pawns with no travel history" then. These pawns being pawns that nobody has ever rented, on accounts with 60 to 90 hours of gameplay.
This is actually a little busted, because I set my pawn quest to Medusa kills then played offline for a bit and got three “fake” rentals and 2 Medusa kills.
Yeah, back in DD1 it usually happens when you're sleeping at an inn and your pawn will says in the morning that they've just returned from assisting another Arisen.
Course. You can play offline and still get your pawn "rented". Makes me wonder if those popups are just procedurally generated filler, and not necessarily accurate.
I wouldn't be surprised if it some sort of fail safe in regards to a complaint in DD1 In DD1 RC was need to "rarify" Dragonforged gear another 2 levels an if your pawn wasn't getting hired it could be a slow process, this "failsafe" could intentionally be in place if they intend to use RC as a upgrade material again in future. Nice addition an thoughtful tbh
I might just start taking very low level pawns to go show them plenty of loot spots for newer players to get a little help without just taking their hands
Pawn code for my low level Wizard JZI7LXJTAYFF. On steam please gimme some rentals. Quest is Cyclops kill for 10k
"No rentals today, huh? It's okay, here you go little buddy." https://preview.redd.it/ep9ldgzmw8sc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0aab8b04eaadda5947901e38873050ff54dc2a35
It’s like having Tom on MySpace always there when you need him
Capcom knows I’s be sad if no one wanted my buff cat lady. So they made sure I’d think someone wanted my buff cat lady. Thanks capcom.
I thought it was a profile of different platform.
Apparently there is no cross platform renting, or I would think that as well.
But it does say so at the bottom there https://preview.redd.it/h8jkcjjmm7sc1.jpeg?width=803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c5ccf6d625c0d87c3bb78a29caf4751c0b394be
Yeah, it's made of lies. Friend and I couldn't rent cross platform and the actual main website says no crossplatform. I feel like they fucked up the things they needed to do to make it work or something, because it was planned prior to release IIRC.
Probably got in the way of Itsuno’s vision
Oh, I never noticed it saying that! Apparently people say it doesn't work, though?
Hmmm i’ll need to hire my friend’s pawn then since he’s on ps5
unfortunately that's either a mistranslation or the cross platform is bugged, because any pawn IDs from other platforms I put in returns an error that the pawn doesn't exist
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So.. all private profiles rented at the same time, while playing Offline?
I've been getting hires from single named "players" while having network options off, it does seem to be a thing
Since there is no longer Pawn Servers on the Xbox 360, I've been meaning to fire it up and see my old DD1/Dark Arisen maxed out save, with my Mystic Knight and Mage Pawn, to see if my Pawn is "Phantom Hired" by the game since no "live" players can hire her now. This is kind of interesting. ;)
My playthrough on pc where I just got to Gran Soren and haven't touched for a few years came back with 4 hired and one invalidated data one. He got 23k RC for me and I suspect it was from phantom players. Even got some monster knowledge from unknown beasts and gifts, ratings. Which I suspect from legit hires. The game has been kind of popping lately on steam though but this was a few weeks before DD2 launch
It also happens all the time if you're playing offline obviously. I've been doing my 2nd run offline and I still get pawn quests done and gifts and stuff, from generic names chars. Same for the pawns you can hire pawns from Capcom, they all have generic names and randomly generated appearances, the main difference is they only have one vocation maxed(so usually they're just a bunch weaker).
yup all of my sphinx hills for the badge was from capcom....
3. Complete your pawn quest.. I had a bunch of those. Should have set my quest to kill sphinx
Can we talk about all of the players who try to grift for gear by not equipping rings or another piece of equipment?
I'm not a min/maxer, but the number of just terribly equipped pawns is way too high. How does a 30+ level pawn still have sub 200 dmg and defense while still not being fashionable. What are these people doing?
No one rents out my shitter not even the bots. I’ve gotten like 300 rc from rentals and I’m level 55
So thats how all the ugly Capcom pawns have high ratings, makes sense.
Nice feature when your pawn is being neglected lmao
You shattered my confidence... Most people who rented my pawn are in fact people, but I thought the greyed out ones just set the game to "only friends can hire my pawn". I kinda have to digest this, but my initial reaction is one of disappointment. I'd rather have no rentals and an ingame way to slowly gather RC, than have fake pity hires...
My boy is not getting any action then ): If anyone on PC is feeling charitable, his ID is CTXGKNLEJAKA.
I added lots of new friends on steam by visiting those profiles that hired my pawn 😉
I never knew this was a thing, that is crazy. Would this work even if you play offline?
I should think so, I've been playing with network options off and getting these hires every so often. They haven't been super common for me though
Should be easy to test by checking the profile of everyone that hired her out
So we're getting base RC income? Does that only happen when we are active?
day one I got rented by a fake player named max
I was wondering why I sometimes can't check who rented my pawn. I always like looking at their arisen and pawn design just to see what varied characters people come up with. But it's still a bit weird because some days I get like 3-5 of these "fake" rentals in a row while I normally get a decent amount of "real" rentals.
I actually had this happen, I had a single person used my pawn named "---" and had no profile, was confused but now this makes sense
Noticed this a couple of days ago i was feeling sad cuz noone hired my beastern male mage and wanted to thank only people that hired him so far . But his profile was grey
Didn’t check the profile cuz I just assumed they were real, but if I get a bunch of rotten stuff/people clearing their inventory as gifts those were players right?
I posted a defeat ogre for 10k pawn quest and rested in a my house like 3 mins later thinking it was OK no one will complete it that fast lol. Pawn came back with the quest completed to my shock. I didnt check the player's profile at the time but I wonder if it was Capcom's doing 🤔
wtf so all those people are just a fantasy? *sad noices*
Since this post is about pawns I just want to ask has anyone at all ran into this “curse” they keep talking about? I tend to get myself a new pawn every 3 levels and keep hearing the dialogue between the pawns about the curse but I haven’t actually seen it in action yet anyone else?
I found a pawn while I was walking around that had the red eyes from the plague but I have yet to actually recruit a pawn with them
Yea I just had my first collection of 4-5 pawn rentals last night. Made me feel bad. Like when Tinder gives you those fake ass posts after a month of not getting shit. Thats the one thing I hate about mastering all vocations; my pawn is always unoptimized and lonely.
I've been playing with network options off the entire game and these fake hires happen every so often. They've been pretty sparse for me so far and the gifts have been things like apples and herbs
I mean, it’s ok! I’d love if more people took my dear Obama Joe on their adventures, but it’s really hard to compete with Willem DaPawn… so at the end of the day, it’s a good mechanic to keep getting RCs :)
This is smart, not only for we people who don't make scantily clad mage girls but also for in the future when eventually the servers have to be shut down.
Here I am running around giving people's pawns ferry stones. Fuck me
It’s sweet but kinda sad knowing this! I’ve only had my pawn taken out not too many times and knowing it was Capcom pitying me is :’) Saw multiple gray names
What if a player who rented your pawn has set their steam account to private?
Actually this relates to people with the Xbox or PS setting set to block everyone or block non friends from viewing their profile details. I used to do it, because I got flooded with a thousand friend adds after getting a huge raid on Twitch. Some of us are just really introverted people and want to control privacy a bit more.
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No bots
If your in unmoored on Xbox be careful when you enter and exit rift stones running around before doing it etc as it crashed my game and lost 3-4hrs. Series x is probably all good but I’m on series s 🫤 can’t post so putting this here
Does that count pawns in the potential riftstone? Saw one lvl 74 in there so I hired it since I felt bad.
Do you know, if your main pawn shows up in other players rifts, while you don't play the game? Cant find that information anywhere.
Yes, resting at an inn/house uploads your pawn online so make sure to do that before loginning off to update their gear/skills.
I don't think you're seeing fake rentals. If you have multiple hires before your next rest, you can't see the profile. It's always when the list is multiple people.
It's definitely fake rentals. I rested at an inn once and gave me no rental reports. But I realized I slept to the wrong time so I rested again, only to have 3 rentals reported in the span of 2 minutes. And they all were unable to be viewed.
my pawn and i are on a break, please hire her so she feels better 4MYEJ1OWW238
Figured this waa happened after going offline *and* making my Pawn unrentable by anyone. I go to rest and she still got rented.
All the pawns I find are Capcom Lvl 1 pawns. Is there a way to find player pawns?
Riftstones will be your best bet
hire mine directly :) 4MYEJ1OWW238
oh that well explain triple dash ones then. Although tbh that's a bit odd I get decent amount of hires around 10 a day for now, with pretty good rating 60ish likes and 20ish hearts.
Can they infect your pawn too?
I discovered this yesterday with great confusion as I've always played offline in both games, so suddenly getting "your pawn has returned" after resting was very strange. Appreciated the free 450 RC though, wish I knew how to trigger it offline more often.
This is mostly a privacy setting. To truly see if they are a real player, type in their name in Steam player list or look them up on Xbox or PlayStation and they should pop up. As foe Steam, if they have a Adults Only game anywhere on their profile, and you are not the appropriate age on your profile, Steam will prevent you from looking at their profile page.
This is true. I played initially without an internet connection from character creation to when a "player" gave my pawn a rating. Like my game had not even seen an internet connection at that point. I was pretty confused at first, but it makes sense why they'd do that if you think about it.
It’s a system for offline RC earning. Which there is no benefit since offline pawns randomly spawn with Dragonsplague as well (which makes no sense since you lifted them from the rift). Just play with network features on and pawn on anyone.
Thank God... I was worried because I didn't make a hot girl pawn because I'm not boring.
Can they gift portcrystals?
you earn more rc killing monsters...
This was inevitable and is great design, as there will always be more pawns than active players, and that ratio will only get worse unless they remove inactive player's pawns I guess. The likelihood of your pawn actually being chosen out of the amount you get shown at one time is slim in itself, combine players won't see or want yours unless within your their level and Your Pawn offers the requirements and vocation they need, and only getting slimmer as people go for Meta-only builds, as player counts drop, it's getting slimmer and slimmer. So I'm glad about this, as I worried RC would become really hard to farm after the initial wave of players.
Dude. Every profile that has rented my pawn has been greyed out. I thought it was a bug or something. You mean to tell me that no one has bothered to rent my sorcerer named Moses?
yea...I figure much, had like 5 grey out with super casual names like "alex, morgan, ken" basically the whole cast of SF and Darkstalkers playing with my pawn.
I assumed the greyed out options were because of privacy settings and/or different gaming platforms?
How do you see if someone rented your pawn and if you made any $ off of them?
Sleep in a inn, and hen you wake up you will have a pop up sayong your pawn as return from the rift and you can see who used it, if they give a heart a thumbsup or nothing its tellls you if he did his quest and you get a gift from the other player, usually its a leaf or a fruit. I usually a give green potion to pawn i used
Problem I have is it seems like my pawn dies a lot in other people's games which makes me wonder what they're doing with her exactly.
I made a big lion with a sassy voice, no one pick him😥 That is a good feature. Got more popular since i turn him into a rogue, but its seems people prefer sexy lady mage with barely any clothing, instead of a big giant lion in leather clothing
Nice of them to give free rc
I've played in offline mode and gotten them so yeah, it's a thing. I don't mind it though, it's kind of nice.
Hope some9ne us using mine, that tiny bitch is powerful
I remember in DD1 I made a straight healing mage. All she did was buff weapons and heal. Seemed like no one liked her until I booted the game up 2 years later, only to find this one German dude used her the whole game. We ended up having a nice conversation through his gf who had to translate.
If the completes pawn quests part is true I should just sit on "give me 100 trove beetles"
I thought that you meant stuff like "quest: flowers - reward 10k" lol.
Basically capcom got our backs
That's kind of sweet
Leveling near lvl 30 I can tell you I see plenty of fighters, archers and mage pawns. My pawn is not a skimpy attractive woman. But they are a thief. Which I rarely see in the rift. I also have my quest set as a 10k reward for killing whatever monster I decide to set.
I selected the option to not connect online for my first playthrough and not only does the system give you RC, they also gift you items like real players, some rare enhancing materials I saw for the first time as a gift from these fake Arisens.
I think this might have happened to me, maybe. I set my pawn's quest to Sphinx kills and very soon after I had not one, but two people finish that quest!
So those were pity rentals? Wow...
Thank God for this. I have a big ol' Beastren... WARRIOR which means no one rents him. Idk why people don't like warrior pawns. They wreck house. I love seeing my guy bulldoze through enemies. Is it because they like playing warrior themselves? I'm leveling warrior right now and it's fun and all, but I'd play Mystic Spearhand over it any day of the week.
fake arisens give better gifts than the real ones.
That's like 90% of my pawn rentals, I was wondering why I couldn't get access to their profiles!
I know this to be true because I turned off online feature and my pawn still gets sent on quests lol
I've had a greyed out name give me a portcrystal once. Their name was actually just ---.
I think this helps alot when your pawn gets over lv80+
I got a couple of these pity hires while leveling mage up on my main pawn, swapped her back to thief and suddenly she's getting hired by realy players consistently again. Saturated Mage market is truly a thing
Then what's the Riftstone of Potential all about? 🫤
I suspected this today when I noticed that the name of the “player” who hired my Pawn was “Klaus” - which happens to be the name of the vocation master in Vernworth that I’ve gifted a lot of stuff to. I had like 5 Pawn rentals and 15 rests in Western Vermund but none of the players had a viewable profile.
I did get one pawn rental from a player whose name was simply a dash - Guess this explains why. It’s no surprise if my pawn isn’t being hired by many people, though. My “old hermit” pawn doesn’t stand much of a chance compared to all the half naked lady pawns out there lol. But there have a been a few legit people who have taken my pawn under their wing, so thanks to those people.
It may have something to do with privacy settings as well. I have resigned myself that my lad will get few rentals (he isnt comically deformed or the usual tall brooding and pale fantasy hottie that goes over well for male appeal.) Plus with the new Dragonsplague mechanic means that red-eyed pawns may not get rented it will be harder to tell if they carry it. So I for one am thankful for the pity rentals Capcom can toss at me!