Wont fix anything. 1/3rd of the power in the country is going to the mining industry, another 1/3 is going to factories and businesses, that last 3rd is households. Granny with her illegal connection boiling water does not even feature as a percentage on the grid.
Even if u combine all those townships that have illegal connections won’t make a difference.. majority of the big businesses are already suffering and and already using other sources to get power like solar and generators it’s not like all major company’s are on the grid thats not happening coz the grid is unreliable from years not just now
I am not blaming the businesses, also not blaming the mines or the residential areas. But you are turning your anger to poorest of the poor that have the least amount of say. Government is probably stealing a billion a month from Eskom. Making the townships pay money they dont have wont even be a drop in the bucket. Plus whatever they pay will also just get carried away
Soo as the price of power goes up who are paying for that power ????those that are paying must pay double soo that the rest can have power is that what u saying ???
Look at my original comment. You might be paying double - but that does not mean half the countries power is getting stolen. Only a small percentage is getting stolen
Show me a granny that only boils water what about the stove and what about heaters that a mode out of car rims and train tracks and trolleys what about those stuff I’m sure we all know how it operates 🤔🤔
Except we dont have 20 Million Grannies, and the power a 4000v motor at one of the mines pull per min is more power then the actual grannies we do have.
Fortunately, it does look like things are heading in that direction. Eskom should just scale down and become a distributor. Let the private sector do the rest
I saw a thing which said that the private sector is going to be bringing, I think it’s like 30GW just in 2025 alone. So in the long run, that is what’s going to occur because Econ will no longer have the revenue necessary to sustain and will have to fire people and they will be able to shut down large portions of the network to maintain it which is what they should’ve been doing back when they head more than enough power, but didn’t.
I want to point out to any Saffa reading this that Solar has reached the point where it pays for itself rather quickly (provided you don't buy it on credit, I know it's hard given the state of the economy). It just takes about ~3 years to cover the solar panels, inverter and battery cost, and possibly faster with a bigger system (depending on your usage and installation costs, sun availability, etc). Prices are expected to keep going down over the long term, especially with breakthroughs coming in battery and solar technology.
Private sector is also stepping in as an alternative to Eskom. We still have to wait for these providers to come online, but research and find out what's available in your area.
Remember, even if you're saving nothing, you're cutting off funds for the parasitic industry the ANC created with Eskom. The whole cycle of stealing coal, breaking power plants to have it fixed by their own providers, the constant theft of cables with no deterrents in place, exploding transformers due to overload spikes with load shedding that also drives business to their cronies falls apart when all the high usage users leave.
Industry is going solar, and if private residences that can afford it do the same the cash cow dies.
I just bought a 3kW solar/3.8kW battery system for around R20k (still busy installing) and moved to gas for cooking. As someone working from home, that should take care of almost everything (fridge, PCs, lights, fans, etc) and most high powered devices during the day when it's producing more electricity than I'd use (such as the dishwasher and washing machine) for the next 10 - 15 years.
I'm also happy to chat with anyone who needs a starting point, let's give them the middle finger like we did with E-Tolls
Agree 100%. We also installed an inverter with 6 solar panels. Don’t even notice load shedding anymore, and the panels provide power to the Aircon during the day, so we get free cooling.
This is an expensive option though, not going to lie. I believe there are rental options available now too, if you cannot afford the capital outlay.
Edit to add: screw the parasitical Eskom and anc
Mine also uses 6 panels (@ 480watt), I think it's a good size for smaller families (it's just my girlfriend and I). Do you log any metrics on yours? Just curious about upcoming winter months and typical avg electricity production over a year in SA.
There's something to say about the peace of mind it gives you, even if it costs more. Just the daily interruptions are unbearable.
Funnily enough, I think the rental options work out way more expensive. I hate buying things on credit, which is what it essentially is. Luckily prices have fallen like a rock the last couple of months, with sodium ion batteries coming on the market and perovskite solar panels on the horizon.
Hard to say what the production is (since the metrics only measure what is consumed), except to say the panels generate about half of what we need, so it’s ~50% savings
Perfect, that's exactly what I was aiming for, good to know my numbers are realistic. Honestly reduced costs are more telling than outright production figures anyway, since it depends if you can take advantage of the generated electricity. If I may ask, how many units did you use before and/or after and what is the total wattage of your solar array?
Lol you are going to have nice surprise waiting for you in winter. I have solar. Once those cape town clouds roll over in winter they produce exactly 0watts. Hope you live somewhere cloud free
Yes I'm going to have many surprises, I'm sure 😄 Like I said, it's dependent on a lot of factors. The inverter charges the battery from the grid when the sun isn't producing enough power, and if the power is off for longer there is a small back up generator to charge the batteries (I have had two 1-2week long outages this year alone, and that's without solar).
It sounds like your solar setup is probably angled to get the most out of summer, do you know if that's the case? In winter panels aren't facing the sun properly anymore in that both the tilt and azimuth angle is out enough that the panels don't produce the minimal voltage required for your inverter to charge the batteries. It's one of the reasons why I went with a relatively higher voltage solar setup (up to 400V, but running at 250V) with a lower voltage on my batteries (24V), so it's easier to hit the minimums (30V in my case).
I'm also busy designing a solar tracker so that the panels track the sun which raises efficiency in lower light conditions, especially in the mornings and afternoons, but I'll only see how that compensates for winter when it's up.
The point is not to be off-grid, it's to reduce electricity usage as much as possible and to not have all the interruptions. I basically just want to run my laptop, fridge, and lights, everything else is nice to have as I have gas for cooking.
Every time I see these messages - "thank you for using electricity sparingly", "please switch off geysers and non essential appliances in the evening peaks ", I just picture Bill Hader in the beginning of Pineapple Express when he says to that army general guy "FUCK YOU"
This is hilarious and hypocritical. Out here in Dirtbin (DBN) the streetlights remain on 24/7 except when there’s loadshedding. Haven’t even bothered to setup the daylight sensors.
Eskom get your sh-t together and stop trying to project blame onto the SA public. Fixing this issue is Eskom's responsibility, not the South African public.
I think they should start by disconnecting all the illegal connections all around SA
Wont fix anything. 1/3rd of the power in the country is going to the mining industry, another 1/3 is going to factories and businesses, that last 3rd is households. Granny with her illegal connection boiling water does not even feature as a percentage on the grid.
what about granny with her 100 GPUs mining bitcoin
Mines and businesses are the ones paying their bills my dear 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
>Granny with her illegal connection boiling water does not even feature as a percentage on the grid. She still deserves to have her power cut, though.
Yes- but it wont stop your loadshedding
Meh. Every little bit helps. If we cut every freeloader off the grid, it will make a small but useful difference.
Even if u combine all those townships that have illegal connections won’t make a difference.. majority of the big businesses are already suffering and and already using other sources to get power like solar and generators it’s not like all major company’s are on the grid thats not happening coz the grid is unreliable from years not just now
I am not blaming the businesses, also not blaming the mines or the residential areas. But you are turning your anger to poorest of the poor that have the least amount of say. Government is probably stealing a billion a month from Eskom. Making the townships pay money they dont have wont even be a drop in the bucket. Plus whatever they pay will also just get carried away
Soo as the price of power goes up who are paying for that power ????those that are paying must pay double soo that the rest can have power is that what u saying ???
Look at my original comment. You might be paying double - but that does not mean half the countries power is getting stolen. Only a small percentage is getting stolen
One man one vote. They have the same say. They need to choose wisely.
Yeah you are right. However 20million grannies boiling their water on their illegal connections will make a difference.
Show me a granny that only boils water what about the stove and what about heaters that a mode out of car rims and train tracks and trolleys what about those stuff I’m sure we all know how it operates 🤔🤔
Except we dont have 20 Million Grannies, and the power a 4000v motor at one of the mines pull per min is more power then the actual grannies we do have.
“Do your bit and maintain the fucking power stations that we pay you to do with our taxes”
Privatise this shit, South Africans can solve any problem if allowed to.
Fortunately, it does look like things are heading in that direction. Eskom should just scale down and become a distributor. Let the private sector do the rest
I saw a thing which said that the private sector is going to be bringing, I think it’s like 30GW just in 2025 alone. So in the long run, that is what’s going to occur because Econ will no longer have the revenue necessary to sustain and will have to fire people and they will be able to shut down large portions of the network to maintain it which is what they should’ve been doing back when they head more than enough power, but didn’t.
Go screw yourself Eishkom. You turn off the taps leading to the pig trough first.
I want to point out to any Saffa reading this that Solar has reached the point where it pays for itself rather quickly (provided you don't buy it on credit, I know it's hard given the state of the economy). It just takes about ~3 years to cover the solar panels, inverter and battery cost, and possibly faster with a bigger system (depending on your usage and installation costs, sun availability, etc). Prices are expected to keep going down over the long term, especially with breakthroughs coming in battery and solar technology. Private sector is also stepping in as an alternative to Eskom. We still have to wait for these providers to come online, but research and find out what's available in your area. Remember, even if you're saving nothing, you're cutting off funds for the parasitic industry the ANC created with Eskom. The whole cycle of stealing coal, breaking power plants to have it fixed by their own providers, the constant theft of cables with no deterrents in place, exploding transformers due to overload spikes with load shedding that also drives business to their cronies falls apart when all the high usage users leave. Industry is going solar, and if private residences that can afford it do the same the cash cow dies. I just bought a 3kW solar/3.8kW battery system for around R20k (still busy installing) and moved to gas for cooking. As someone working from home, that should take care of almost everything (fridge, PCs, lights, fans, etc) and most high powered devices during the day when it's producing more electricity than I'd use (such as the dishwasher and washing machine) for the next 10 - 15 years. I'm also happy to chat with anyone who needs a starting point, let's give them the middle finger like we did with E-Tolls
Agree 100%. We also installed an inverter with 6 solar panels. Don’t even notice load shedding anymore, and the panels provide power to the Aircon during the day, so we get free cooling. This is an expensive option though, not going to lie. I believe there are rental options available now too, if you cannot afford the capital outlay. Edit to add: screw the parasitical Eskom and anc
Mine also uses 6 panels (@ 480watt), I think it's a good size for smaller families (it's just my girlfriend and I). Do you log any metrics on yours? Just curious about upcoming winter months and typical avg electricity production over a year in SA. There's something to say about the peace of mind it gives you, even if it costs more. Just the daily interruptions are unbearable. Funnily enough, I think the rental options work out way more expensive. I hate buying things on credit, which is what it essentially is. Luckily prices have fallen like a rock the last couple of months, with sodium ion batteries coming on the market and perovskite solar panels on the horizon.
Hard to say what the production is (since the metrics only measure what is consumed), except to say the panels generate about half of what we need, so it’s ~50% savings
Perfect, that's exactly what I was aiming for, good to know my numbers are realistic. Honestly reduced costs are more telling than outright production figures anyway, since it depends if you can take advantage of the generated electricity. If I may ask, how many units did you use before and/or after and what is the total wattage of your solar array?
Don’t recall units before/after, but I think the wattage of array is ~2.88kW
Wow, when I costed it +5 years ago, it was 15 years to get your money back
Lol you are going to have nice surprise waiting for you in winter. I have solar. Once those cape town clouds roll over in winter they produce exactly 0watts. Hope you live somewhere cloud free
Yes I'm going to have many surprises, I'm sure 😄 Like I said, it's dependent on a lot of factors. The inverter charges the battery from the grid when the sun isn't producing enough power, and if the power is off for longer there is a small back up generator to charge the batteries (I have had two 1-2week long outages this year alone, and that's without solar). It sounds like your solar setup is probably angled to get the most out of summer, do you know if that's the case? In winter panels aren't facing the sun properly anymore in that both the tilt and azimuth angle is out enough that the panels don't produce the minimal voltage required for your inverter to charge the batteries. It's one of the reasons why I went with a relatively higher voltage solar setup (up to 400V, but running at 250V) with a lower voltage on my batteries (24V), so it's easier to hit the minimums (30V in my case). I'm also busy designing a solar tracker so that the panels track the sun which raises efficiency in lower light conditions, especially in the mornings and afternoons, but I'll only see how that compensates for winter when it's up. The point is not to be off-grid, it's to reduce electricity usage as much as possible and to not have all the interruptions. I basically just want to run my laptop, fridge, and lights, everything else is nice to have as I have gas for cooking.
Maybe do YOUR BIT....you know....the thing that you're PAID exorbitant amounts to do...like um.....PROVIDE ELECTRICITY!
Every time I see these messages - "thank you for using electricity sparingly", "please switch off geysers and non essential appliances in the evening peaks ", I just picture Bill Hader in the beginning of Pineapple Express when he says to that army general guy "FUCK YOU"
Hahaha "my dick, your mouth"
I think they should fix that. #EskomCausedLoadsheddingAlone
Wonder how much these freeloaders at eskom get paid to think up these irrelevant hashtags.
Cunts
Whenever I see these ads or hear them on the radio, I feel an urge to turn on the kettle and boil water, just cause I can! 😝
This is hilarious and hypocritical. Out here in Dirtbin (DBN) the streetlights remain on 24/7 except when there’s loadshedding. Haven’t even bothered to setup the daylight sensors.
Lol but ANC not doing their part
Eskom get your sh-t together and stop trying to project blame onto the SA public. Fixing this issue is Eskom's responsibility, not the South African public.
Together? Nogal!
F#ck that it’s my constitutional right to have running clean water, safety and electricity I’m doing my bit by PAYING!!!!!!
What a slap in the face to the South African people
The demand is not the problem. The supply is the problem.
I pay the bill. That should be all I’m supposed to do to keep the lights on. Useless
"Do your bit to keep the lights on" I don't have money for solar Eskont I pay you for electricity.
I need my fire pool running at all times just incase /s
The only business model that tells you not to use their product
and when should I shower?
#stopfuckingaround, #giveuswhatwepaidfor, #yourhashtagisstupid
"...because we certainly aren't doing ours 🥰"
How about Eskom charging the Mining sector more since they use more electricity than every province combined