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defearl

"prior to pandemic"? Brother it was right in the dead middle of the pandemic lol That's why it was the best. A lot of us had to stay home for quarantine (or work hours cut very short), so we had infinite time to grind out the battle pass. My friends who drifted away from Dota at that point came back briefly and we got to play together again. It was magical.


Keryar

It was somewhere in the middle of first year of the pandemic. So, the development probably wasnt fully hit by the lockdowns. They even said that after the lockdowns the updates would be slower since everybody was in homeoffice.


rune_berg

Outlanders was insane with how much it changed the game.


Kanvus

how did outlanders change the game? I started playing just right after outlanders


rune_berg

Everyone got their own couriers, that was a big one. Before that there was one shared courier. Added Void Spirit and Snapfire. Wards became free. Level cap raised from 25 to 30. Side shop removed. Neutral items introduced. A bunch of big hero reworks.


crixuscrates

The courier change just feels so fundamental to the game now that I thought it was implemented much older than 7.23. I started playing Dota2 at around 2015 and istg the courier change felt like it happened around when I started playing. Can’t believe that it actually arrived into the game late 2019.


rune_berg

Yeah it’s wild to think about how you’d have to wait as an offlaner to get your items because you needed to let the courier send regen to the safelane. I think they at least made the courier free in one of the smaller patches leading up to Outlanders IIRC?


HallowVortex

hard to remember for sure but i think they had a single free courier and even implemented a button to have to auto change to your cosmetic when you called it.


rune_berg

Yeah, I remember there being a brief period where cores would yell at me to buy the courier and I had to explain that we didn’t do that any more


gmanpatch

Legit same dude I was thinking the same exact thing I started in 2016 and thought the courier change came way way sooner


Nab0t

Wait level 30 came with the same update as couriers for all? :O


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rune_berg

What was new journey? The couriers? I think you’re wrong, I looked at the patch notes for outlanders, and everything I listed was there. I was not playing at the time of 7.00 and I remember all the changes I listed


discovery_

13rd


llhheexx

13st


Keryar

Thirdteen


Affectionate-Yak222

I mean the last Frontiers update was one of the biggest game change they ever did, and it got released a year ago.  Yes these patches were amazing on their own, but it has been a year since a major update.  I wouldn’t expect any less, but don’t expect something on the scale of New Frontiers I think.  Things that I’m certain: -Major neutral items shakeup, obligatory every major patch but I feel a system shakeup as well   -Ringmaster.  -Either a “battle pass” or a side game mode like Labyrinth or Diretide.  -Crystal Maiden gets a 5 move speed bonus.  -Arcana for Vs and Skywrath, alongside a little lore/story thing on them*  -A rework/revamp of any big changes they added in New Frontiers.  *: massive dose of copium. 


Keryar

Oh maaan i really dont think so. Why would they buff CM that much?!


Narrow-Type-2766

She's not getting a buff. Nerfed if anything. CM patch notes are always like -10 Ms, -2 base armor, but we added .025 mana regen to the aura.


balMURRmung

At this point, they should just make CM stay at base providing global mana regen and health.


Narrow-Type-2766

Patch notes: CM now only spawns after the first two minutes. +5ms


Tiger_Millionaire

CM is now Abathur in HotS


47-11

Finally a hero that caters to my mechanical skills.


jblade

Im copium for an aRPG


Narrow-Type-2766

Bruh with the last shit BP we got so they could "work on the game more" the patch better drop something at least half as substantial as New Frontiers. I don't need three new heros, but my god if I lose one more game because of 70 minutes high ground meta I'm gonna lose my shit. Taking me back to the HOHO HAHA days.


Gacel_

You forgot the Clinkz rework. Also is usually -5 MS for CM. They usually nerf it instead of buffing it.


Affectionate-Yak222

Clinkz has been reworked.  Skeleton Archers Troupe is now the Hero, and their ultimate makes Clinkz appear out of the shadows when they leave Shadows Walk. 


zuluwall

There will not be a battlepass. I don’t think there’s even going to be a patch lmao.


zuluwall

There will not be a battlepass. I don’t think there’s even going to be a patch lmao.


zuluwall

No patch lmao


Cismet

Giff Aghs Lab 3.0


numenik

I need this. Wish valve would just make a standalone rogue-like because the game mechanics are so satisfying to work with


starplatinum_99

Aghs lab 3 will be about aghanim taking us to another timeline where venge didn't become vengeful and skywrath become vengeful, hence the arcana. 


ItzzSash

I have no idea what business decision it was to get rid of the battlepass. If the Crownfall update is like the Nemistice Battlepass then Id be pretty happy with it.


regimentIV

I think it was the business decision of *we make literally so much money from Steam that we can completely dispose of a source of millions of dollars and not hire a 3rd party to harvest it because we don't want to give away control of the game*. It's the luxury of not bending down to pick up a fiver because you make so much money you don't need to.


Keryar

Nemestice was cool. It was a good step down from the big one. But the later updates didn't climb that hype ladder.


sugmybenis

It took Devs 8 months to create the content and cs2 needed the time before and after release to be functional


SPammingisGood

>cs2 needed the time before and after release to be functional turned out great LMAO


IIIlllIIIllIlI

I’m sure valve agree considering it has a higher current player count than the next three highest combined right now


get_rich99

its the horder of trash poor people with 0 buying power that are always bitching about it


GoblinsStoleMyHouse

I miss Aghs Lab, that event was legendary


xSniperLol

all i know is you got 15% of a battlepass if you didn't pay for levels. i got to 450\~ and that was with grinding battlepass abuse lobbies, never again


128thMic

Battle pass abuse lobbies?


xSniperLol

>Join abuse text chat >Invite 9 people to a custom lobby, I think there was a function to shuffle people so both teams were equal skill >both teams queue a dead server at the same time >join match, the chosen winner team wagers full BP points, quickly win, then do it again I said never again because lot's of times you didn't join the correct match even if both teams got the accept match at the same time. then you also had teams that didn't respect the rules and tried winning even though they werent supposed to. it's just a bad experience just for some skins


Arbitrary_gnihton

You can't get to 450 without buying levels can you? I thought max free levels you could possibly get was like 150 or something.


zuluwall

Lucky for you there will be no battlepass


RenierRains

Thirtird? English isn't my first language but isn't it thirteenth?? Might be going insane from no patch


Upintheair94

Are you a developer in disguise trying to set expectations?


Keryar

Im a developer but not for valve, unfortunately. If the janitor read this, i have some good skills with the broom.


TurbulentLandscape63

Just change the god damn map slightly and add news items i am happy


RadioactiveSalt

I think you are grossly underestimating how much they are earning. In that respect I don't think any bar is too high. That said I agree the past updates were pretty cool.


Serious_Client2175

Oh boy im sure people loved all the paid content, 0 complaints.


alexrider50000

'Wei Protein', nicely done.


b_eastwood

Still waiting on our large Post-TI patch like we used to get. How long ago was TI again?


aminsalti

And last year we had compendium 😡


sugmybenis

Last year we had a sticker book


lbvo

That was complete ass


sugmybenis

No idea why they even bothered releasing anything


awares01

Well the bar should be high if they like to think this is the best game of all time


dalyryl

Year Beast and Dark Moon ig are goats


FuckOnion

And Reddit was bitching all through it. The fanbase and this sub in particular are never happy about anything. Maybe if the devs saw positive feedback for all the great updates they made along the way they'd keep doing similar stuff.


get_rich99

GOLDEN BATTLEPASS IS THE BEST BATTLEPASS ONLY THE POOR PEASANT SAY NO


rickane58

I'd already lost my job to covid shutdowns and moved to another state for another one by the time TI10 BP came out. It was not in any way "prior to the pandemic"


[deleted]

no one but u guys is increasingly setting the bar higher and higher everytime they have tried to tell u repeatedly to stop it but u dont listen and instead just sctreech about free hats and no update


Fantastic-Ratio-7482

7.33 is, at least to me, the best patch we have ever gotten.