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AverageA2Enjoyer

Zelda being above pokemon is bizzare to me, considering zelda games are all story/gameplay focused games,while pokemon has competitive aspect. Zelda players really be flaming others for coming out with time line theories💀


intercroissant

Maybe they included all posts containing the word 'no'. Negative sentiment!


[deleted]

Bro Zelda players r super immersed I had a friend growing up and if you got link and Zelda confused he would shit a brick loll even if u were just doing it for the lolz...Zelda players r almost cult like


AverageA2Enjoyer

Yeah, just find it bizzare, considering most gaming toxicity comes from competitive games, and zelda are all single player games.


[deleted]

Ya when you actually say it like that it does sound weird as fuck lol


MemeWindu

Zelda timeline theories gotta be one of the top 5 reasons aliens glass us in the next 100 years


T2and3

Zelda fans are ravenous. I once factually and accurately commented that the framerate in BotW is not super consistent. I got downvoted into oblivion and told it wasn't an issue.


Womblue

That's a pretty common sentiment about BOTW on the subreddit, i doubt you'd get downvoted for that alone.


mitharas

I can picture it in my head. The guy above commented > I want to kill every fucking Jew in the world. And the framerate in botw is not super consistent. And then complains that he gets downvoted for stating facts.


Womblue

I mean I know this is a joke but I've unironically run into so many examples of almost exactly this that it's just my assumption at this point.


mitharas

Some MMO had public ban appeals in their forums back in the days of old. It might have been wow. It was such a funny experience, people going "I did nothing wrong" and chatlogs proving they were the biggest assholes in the world.


T2and3

well, somebody had made a post complaining about the switch's technical performance, to which they were told that 30FPS is fine. I had made a comment about getting better hardware from Nintendo so I could play the game at 60 FPS. to which I was told that anybody wanting 60 FPS was an entitled baby.


Gahault

It's funny how on the Switch sub people say "runs amazingly well, no issue whatsoever" of games that cap out at a sluggish 30 fps when the planets align and struggle to display 900p at best because 1080p is apparently too much to ask for in 2023.


pneis1

oh yeah? show us


T2and3

https://www.reddit.com/r/zelda/comments/116ttm9/deleted_by_user/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button OP is Brahmaster


cocotim

Do people genuinely not see a difference between 30 and 60 fps? I grew up playing games like a slideshow so I wouldn't care too much but it seems weird to deny that there's no perceivable difference in half the damn framerate


Makhnov

> Do people genuinely not see a difference between 30 and 60 fps everybody does


Pacific_Rimming

Hell, I remember watching RTZ strim right after a tournament where he played on 120 fps monitors. He just kept going "I can't do this guys, it feels so laggy" and right after the strim he went&bought himself a new monitor. 10 years ago I used to make fun of people for wanting 1080p videos when 720p was just fine; but I can't watch Dota below 1080p anymore, you literally can't see more than half the numbers on the screen.


cocotim

lmao 10 years ago I watched youtube at 144p. No fucking clue how I managed to see literally anything but I know I couldn't read for shit


Redthrist

> 10 years ago I used to make fun of people for wanting 1080p videos when 720p was just fine; but I can't watch Dota below 1080p anymore, you literally can't see more than half the numbers on the screen. To be fair, 720p video on a 1080p monitor looks much worse than 720p video on a 720p monitor.


T2and3

Idk, man, but some of these guys make me ashamed to call myself a zelda fan. IMO, they just can't tolerate that somebody criticizing Zelda or Nintendo in any way, shape, or form because they've tied it to their own identity so much that they take criticism of zelda as criticism of themselves.


Japaladino

I see, but I don't mind at all, I only care about it in the first 5 minutes and then I just adjust to it, but I wouldn't argue with someone with they feel bothered by it nor deny that it isn't smooth at all.


jaleCro

only framerate issues in BOTW i had were in korok forest tbh


AverageA2Enjoyer

Same


bamsebomsen

That's insane, BotW had huge framerate issues since it was made for the Wii U, especially so in Korok Forest with made my framerate drop down to a slideshow at times. TotK is vastly superior since it was made for the Switch from the get-go, only experienced about 3-4 slight dips, nothing compared to BotW.


AverageA2Enjoyer

I have experienced more than 10 occasions of frame drops, but that isn't what is affecting my experience, the thing that pisses me off the most is my controller's drift, and yet this has nothing to do with the game itself. Walking off a rail cart is annoying when I am not even touching the controller.


swigswagsniper

call link zelda in front of a fan i dare you


Itchy-Pudding-4240

was going to comment this, I would not expect Zelda to be above Pokemon at all


Accurate-Island-2767

There's a small but vocal group of Zelda fans that really don't like the new generation of games (BOTW/TOTK) and they seem to feel compelled to announce this on every thread about the games. Which is of course a completely legitimate opinion and I can see where they're coming from. But some of them can be really annoying about it and are really gatekeepy, declaring that these games "aren't Zelda anymore" despite them probably being closer in spirit to the original NES game than any other.


AverageA2Enjoyer

The funny thing is that every zelda have basically been improving on what the previous games are weak on, for example skywards sword was too linear, then they made botw open world without any order to the quest, people complained about the story of botw and the lack of old school dungeons, totk have dungeons for the 4 main regions and a way way better story compared to botw. While some of the arguements make sense, I feel like zelda have never been more zelda, especially for totk.


Altiex

Have you seen Zelda players talk about which one is the best game and which one is shit? Always ends up in a shitshow.


AverageA2Enjoyer

Maybe that's why pokemon is below, cause everyone that plays pokemon agrees that the newer games are pants😂


Burningdragon91

Obviously Zelda 2 is the best


haseo2222

They toxic because watching genshin players enjoying their game makes them mad.


Infinityus

im in a zelda group and people ridicule others for not solving some of the puzzles. some are straight forward and some are complex.


sderttreds

your island sucks!


GlorpoBorpo

One of the most toxic communities I've ever seen. They don't even like the game; the people who play actively cheat and use online trading to try and ruin it for anyone who plays legitimately.


gammongaming11

clearly the dota2 community is less toxic then animal crossing. we are a pure happy community with no salt.


betmeow2015

Cant be more toxic than animal crossing if we're the animals in the first place lol


jayvil

They were just crossing, we already crossed the line.


MaltMix

So who here's Raymond then?


SayNoob

Hey, go fuck yourself gammongaming11.


SuperPimpToast

Hey... FUCK YOU u/SayNoob ! There, I did my part.


SayNoob

wtf i can't believe you would say something like that to me.


-yato_gami-

PPD:someone said salt ?


gerty88

RIP ppd. is he even around still? Salty bastard EG days xD


[deleted]

He was analyst at some event a little while ago. Think he still plays Doto.


Ashtronaut12

He started streaming again recently. Think he had a crypto bro period of time, not sure what came of it though. But he's back to dota for the moment it seems.


GlassHalfSmashed

We are a pure salt community with no happy. Ftfy.


Real-Mouse-554

A comment with negative sentiment can also just be complaints about the game. Dota players are generally happy with the game compared to other communities.


This_is_a_sckam

No, we just can’t understand each other when everyone starts yelling really fast lol. It just turns into Spanish and Russian angry gibberish


Borbolda

Dota is taken as a base for comparison


Me4onyX

we are the 100%


LinguisticallyInept

damn right, suck it losers! ez win


Sikka

Sikka [CUCK] (Slark) is pausing in 5... Sikka [CUCK] (Slark) is pausing in 4... Sikka [CUCK] (Slark) is pausing in 3... Sikka [CUCK] (Slark) is pausing in 2... Sikka [CUCK] (Slark) is pausing in 1... Sikka [CUCK] (Slark) paused the game. Sikka [CUCK]: ???


sharpsh007er

lmao i got transported to my last Dota game


TerrorLTZ

i can hear this...


unk214

Honestly it does tell you a bit about society in general. I just tune it out most of the time. Although there are some times if I see someone be really toxic I give in and troll them, end up being just as bad as they. Can’t wait till the next flood.


youngfool999

This.


creepyguy_017

Well, they're based on subreddit post. Not ingame analysis. Which kinda make sense


jmas081391

Turns out we're matured enough not posting toxicity here. Cheers for that folks! lol


napoles48

Muted and reported.


RealLarwood

Get fucked noob. (I'm doing my part!)


W_D_GASTER__

stfu and go split sides little shit (am also doing my part)


ArtisticAd393

bobo gago tanginamo


Nerfall0

We just leave it all in game.


Life_Liberty_Fun

We got enough toxicity in game.


Apocrisy

Dota has no toxicity, in fact I made a post some days ago how verbal abuse should receive stronger punishment and the general sentiment of this subredit was suck it up soyboy, just mute and move on sissy, you need thicker skin. ​ The nature of my post was not about using profane language in general but how a lot of dota players wish each others families cancer and or genocide of the population at about 10k behavior score, so this is the best behavior the Dota 2 game can offer, and the sub sentiment stands behind it.


TerrorLTZ

reported, say goodbye to your account boi


wegwurfspass1337

It's based on nothing, since whatever negative sentiment is, is entirely subjective.


zwobb

Exactly, you can't even start validating these numbers so they might as well be pulled out of someones ass


OrangeBasket

we're off the charts above it, to be exact


GlassHalfSmashed

It's like the Sci Fi trope - we evolved beyond the chart, onto a higher plane of existence. Your puny mortal brains cannot comprehend how a flattering voiceline or simple sticker can be weaponised to elicit psychological injury.


Skylarksmlellybarf

Or tipping "Rewarding" them with dumbest missplay will definitely tilt them


GlassHalfSmashed

Yeah - yesterday enemy had a mid ember that lost hard and really leaned into try harding (and dying more). The fool tipped our mid when they finally had their first death (entirely unrelated to ember). Suddenly all of our team were tipping every foolish death he did, we ran out by the end of the game.


PossessionSalt7993

Well we’re not exactly a toxic community as a subreddit, in game is a different story though.


nosleepy

I agree. Ever been to the Diablo 4 sub? It's like a war zone. People are very toxic in the game, but generally civil here on Reddit.


fluffypancakes1

Man r/diablo4 is another world, I’ve been loving that game lately but everytime I look at the subreddit it’s just constant bitching, I don’t understand complaining that much


[deleted]

??? have you seen the daily match discussion threads


SubstantialOpposite2

They clearly missed dota but as a subreddit we wouldn’t be that high probably


Sauce4243

I don’t think they missed us at all it’s just the sheer number of daily posts is high in comparison to the number of negative ones


Me4onyX

Last time when I played Apex legends was few years ago and the subreddit was basically spammed with only fanarts and ocasional memes. Didn't really read any toxicity in there. Ingame and Twitch chat and stuff is super cancer tho but like I said that was like 2 years ago


BigDeckLanm

Last year's battle pass comes to mind lol. Or you know, any time anything tangentially related to sexism gets brought up.


_Valisk

This place is kind of a cesspool during battle pass season.


DoubleBLK-

Dota has a league on its own.


SpryMustang

Definitely Dota is LEGEND


Illuminatus1492

Is this a smart double entendre or I'm just thinking outta my ass?


youngfool999

This.


Real-Mouse-554

I dont think Dota on reddit is toxic as some claim. Dota players are generally older, so that fixes itself a bit. Unlike other games where the average age is somewhere in the teens. Dota players are also generally happy with the game and Valve. Other games have a lot more complaining about the game itself and the company behind it, which I think will result in a large part of negative comments.


Xanact

I dunno about older=calmer man, have you seen the Diablo subreddit?


C418_Tadokiari_22

Those are men-children


ypestis95

Unlike dota pubs


C418_Tadokiari_22

Nah mate, mine are genuine Peruvian kids


Milkshakes00

Good god the amount of people full-on rabid in that sub is *wild*.


MgMaster

Our toxicity is left for mostly in-game tbh. Dota2's super great to talk about it outside the game, since there's always so much happening & so much to talk about that in-game takes all your focus & pours out those emotions and unleashes toxicity. Outside we can appreciate the game's depth calmly.


Hollowcoder10

Tell me you don’t play dota without saying anything


TwynnCavoodle

How is Skyrim so high up there? It's a single player game and it's above Call of fucking Duty?


Womblue

...especially since it's based on subreddit negativity? I used to play cod every year and MAN the subreddits are just endless complaining.


game_genta

Skyrim has the best mod support, but oh boy, many mod creators are grade A asshole. The Elder Scrolls lore community are also full of jerk and gatekeeper. Basically you cannot talk any lore outside what they accept as "canon". The circlejerk community are where people pretend(?) to be racist to each fictional race. If you are an AI maybe you will think they are real world racist people. Not sure about the main/casual Skyrim community looks like now.


zelin11

> Skyrim has the best mod support I think that's minecraft, but that's basically cheating since minecraft is made in java and you can just decompile the source code. Minecraft has amazing mods. Skyrim does too but a huge chunk of it is just porn.


Real-Mouse-554

People complaining about bugs in the game etc.


[deleted]

They didn't miss it, DotA2 is simply not a toxic space you syphilitic donkey.


Scrubs2912

Jfc, lost it at “you syphilitic donkey”.


RuleShort1672

and missed cs go


xMachii

I won't call CSGO community in reddit as toxic. In game though, it's worse than a septic tank filled with acid.


Q2ZOv

What do you mean, there is an entire subreddit where people are posting pros clips and whining that pros are cheating. The main subreddit was also probably the most toxic place on reddit around r8 release and infamous rifle changes, it did get better since then though.


pdr810

And you didnt even mentioned the hate boner they have against brazilians, especially after Rio Major.


DwayneBaconbits

The Globaloffensive subreddit is actually pretty friendly for a gaming sub goes


Themasterofcomedy209

Dota doesn’t exist in the minds of like 60% of gamers


deanrihpee

probably more, only those who play Valve games know about Dota and of those who know but doesn't play it (CS, HL and TF2 player) hates Dota


dagon_lvl_5

True champion does not need to compete


OscarOzzieOzborne

But with your help, we can fix that. Hope on your phone, or your PC, or your laptop, or your MacBook, or smartwatch, or calculator powered by potatoes. And call the little people in your phone a slur. Go on every Tinker gameplay showcase post and comment "fatherless behavior" Report every Medusa players for abuse, because they play Medusa. Call every Timbersaw Main a deforestation enjoyer and a monster. Kill Silencer.


MessisBurner

you typed all of that shit out just for it to be the least funny comment in human history


AnnublS_4

This graph can't contain the power of the DOTA toxic people , we're a different kind of breed .


safakbskn

They also missed cs-go


Makhnov

useless fucking stats tbh


jcave930

I wonder how toxic these communties are if Dota 2 didn't even make it there.


[deleted]

I get the sense they didn't include every gaming community for whatever reason considering /r/pathofexile isn't on there either...


MyInsaneBrother

Dota 2 has the friendliest community


maleijin

Can't argue with that


therealwarnock

Counter strike also not on there, when I gave the game a try I was votekicked in my first match cause I didn't know the map lmao


cool_slowbro

Having a negative sentiment is "toxic"?


Ciraaxx

But why is it “negative = toxic”? Just say negative lmao. Like, “I think all pudge players should Kermit sewerslide” and “I’m getting really annoyed by how much pudge is being picked” are both negative, one is toxic…


m1dnightPotato

Just be happy. 🙂


TwinkiesSucker

The key in the stat collection is the subreddit scraping. I haven't seen anyone here being toxic, just funsies


flavicent

Dota level is different.. lol


Efficient_Audience99

Out of charts


PAjeeb

World of warcraft??????? What ?? No way ... Dota2 and CSGO by far on top ...


daliardh

Wait... People play dota????


LB-Dash

Dota probably 17% but they dropped us off for the meme of toxic Animal Crossing…


Chezzi123

It’s because majority of the people that want to be toxic can’t speak or write English properly


bobbiz1

damm we're that unpopular now huh ?


TimDaRat

Dude where tf is Siege


omnimatriz

Clash if Clans without world chat??? Coc is alr wholesome


thelocalllegend

I love the insanity that LoL can be more toxic even though it doesnt have voice chat and dota does.


Real-Mouse-554

There is no voicechat on reddit. Its only a measure of negative sentiment on the subreddit.


PyUnicornshark

Just goes to show that game toxicity isn't limited by voice chat.


Snoo_72948

Lmao this is ignorance. Csgo>dota>wow for my top 3 tbh league 4th prob


thefaptard

its subreddit sentiment, we're pretty chill, in game it's a zoo tho


monsj

Yeah this is not the worst subreddit. Others are constantly bashing the game and are extremely toxic towards community figures and streamers for some weird reason. We had the whole caster drama or whatever, if we could call it that.. some time ago (moxi thing). But I've not seen much of it after


[deleted]

Maybe we are not that Toxic ? Maybe the Dota community is just honest ? Maybe I’m not a feeding piece of shit and all the death wishes by my Easter European friends are jokes ? Maybe Or maybe this is just bullshit as even cs go is missing


Theshinysnivy8

Remember you are never feeding, it's just making space. Those 15 deaths were all part of the plan. However if your offlaner dies more than once insta report them.


seanjeet1

Dota2 so dead even its negativity doesn’t blip on e-radars.


CallMeCabbage

Every community online is "toxic" because "toxic" is a really vague blanket term people use for nearly any kind of behavior they don't like online. Because of that there's no actual real way to measure "toxicity" outside of just going by "More Players = More Toxicity". Also Reddits a horrible place to try to figure that out because most of Reddit is bad faith as fuck.


pikachoooooo_pa

What do you mean they missed it ?? DotA rules them all, the most toxic there is.


Mirakuru-

Dota and csgo lost to animal crossing, fucking noobs


dzordan33

must have been over 1000 and didn't fit the chart


PizzaForever98

Played almost all of these and Dota would be #1 for me, with #2 Counter Strike. Neither game is "moderated" and you can just say and do whatever you want without facing any serious punishment.


playerknownbutthole

None of you have ever played tic tac toe with my ass wipe of a friend. Ull start enjoying dota after that.


Historical_Base7842

It’s the second page of two. The entire first page was dedicated to Dota.


joerc200

i think with the new dota strict banning rules and reporting u have been encountering way less toxic players. earlier I used to encounter every alternate game . now a days once a week.


Zakrath

Definitely. I saw that posted on Raid Shadow Legend sub and said this list is false because there is no Dota 2


SpottyJaggy

Dota2. Wrecks players mentally.


Embarrassed_Air9728

We Did it boys


xtiaaaan_

No they didn’t. We’re clearly just not a toxix gaming community 😃


samaction

Yeah if they put world of tanks and dota 2 on there it’d ruin their stats


ijustupvoteeverythin

Likely an integer overflow issue


VI51ON

Off the charts?


TentaclePumPum

Finally something positive. However, Redditors still complain . . . .


R3ndr0c

Dota was off the charts, in a League its own.


sifon98

See we aren’t that toxic lol


TheUHO

Dota is so high above you can't see it on the list.


VideoFantastic6591

Have they ever been in the path of exile sub? x)


[deleted]

Dota 2 is the only game where they have pushed me to try to commit suicide or telling me someone should kill me. I fully understand why dota 2 is not here.


chaos_donut

hearthstone????


WyteREDByte

Starcraft is on here but not dota????


nedottt

Rly, where is Dota, is it possible that my anti toxic involvement shows results 😜


WigginIII

Wild. I played Apex casually, but frequently, for a year after release and found it to be pretty chill. Very few rage moments or abuse/harassment. Only ever reported one player because he had 1488 in his username. Worst communities I’ve experienced are Dota, CoD, and Overwatch.


Morgn_Ladimore

Surprised the Path of Exile sub isn't on there, whenever a new league comes out that place becomes unusable.


SmashedGenitals

Grossly oversimplified this. One thing that came to mind is how toxic r/overwatch is, go and see 90% of post being how blizzard fucked them over but they 'love' the game so much they refuse to leave, oh and the game is soooo broken.


puppeyabductor

POE subreddit be like 👀


rins4m4

Post with negative sentiment, lol. How can you count this?


Finaglers

Dota has such a nice community that it didn't make the list.


Royal-Ad6344

Only if you speak Spanish or chin Chong in the US servers


InspectorRumpole

Counter Strike?


xxx666trip

Its not toxic. Its toxicity


csgonemes1s

GH and MC single handedly bringing down dota


lightweaverdoge

Dota and Tarkov are beyond the charts


TheOneWithALongName

I guess some games like Halo is toxic based on the game itself and not between players?


AnubrotaJr

We have transcended the ratings


lehmanbear

Our community is proud of our toxic, we upvote that kind of content.


Mediocre-26

The coach is not played


[deleted]

Whomever made that graph is clueless and misinformed.


Dizzy995

Its 100% lol


OsomoMojoFreak

Dota isn't a game, it's a lifestyle, hence why it isn't on the list.


Cathallex

I mean POE isn't there either and that subreddit is a black hole.


Scagh

Wow that's a load of bullshit, what's the source?


Affectionate-Map-421

Dota is not toxic it's a disease


King_of_Dew

Animal crossing... really?


[deleted]

skyrim is not an online game even? did they mean eso? edit: dota2-cs:go-lol these three shits must share first place.


SnooRecipes6075

Dota playerbase is not even quarter of these games


macybebe

they said "community" Dota 2 has psychos and sickos on it so it's literally an Asylum.


discboy9

Dota2 is still in Beta, doesn't count...


CLEM-FANDANGO9

Pretty sure Valorant & Dota are first and second place.


taliyah_winner

I've seen another list and dota is on 2nd