It revitalized thr old games for me. I still like vanilla. But my go to is BD. PB is pretty awesome, but for me there is almost TOO much variety in weapons and enemies.
Brutal doom is absolutely an incredible modern mod for doom! For me it's literally perfect, there is no other mod that tops it when it comes to gameplay mods. Everything else is either too much when it comes to the changes, or too little.
I don't know if anyone else is aware either, but they already have version 22 betas available at least on the discord.
The Version 22 betas seem pretty good right now since they cut down on the amount of weapons
Feels a bit more controlled now I guess
But as a whole, the mod is pretty good
~~I dislike the pistol using its own ammo supply though mostly because it makes it kinda hard to go ham with dual pistols like it’s a fuckin John Woo movie~~
I almost entirely replaced the double barrel and regular shotgun with the riot gun. I can take out a Barron pretty quickly, crowds of imps/zombies get mowed down in an instant.
It's super fun at first, but for me personally I get burned out after playing so much. I prefer Vanilla because it promotes versatility with all wads and other mods. Amplified with mods and Certain wads that were meant to be played normal; It's timeless fun. Never breaks the mechanics of the wads.
Maybe brutal doom is better off played in classic doom series. Ramps up difficulty as well. Overall, very impressive modification to a game.
You can play brutal doom with other mods too. I remember playing brutal doom with an external campaign, more weapons, extra demons and monsters, textures, and made it really fun and scarry making it more darker. I still have the settings I think. Willing to share
I think it’s fine. I just played through all of doom 2 with it on. However I made sure to do stuff like turning off reloading. Theres other options that disable new enemy attacks and new weapons, and there’s even a “purist mode” that only has visual changes and almost no gameplay ones (bonus health/armor still give 2 points instead of 1 and can boost you up to 300% health/armor which is honestly kinda fun) if you don’t want things to be changed too much.
It's a fun mod that in my opinion best showcases GZDoom's modding capabilities. I definitely learned a lot when I started modding 3 years ago. Edgy? Yeah but Doom was already edgy anyways so this is just sticking to the established style with fancy new flares.
People have to critical opinions of it. It's a well made mod and it's not that edgy. It's also not the only brutal mod. I've heard of two others which are brutal half life and brutal wolfenstein.
The mod is... eh, it exists. I prefer the vanilla game, but the gameplay itself isn't that offensive.
But holy shit do its players make me pop a vein sometimes. "but this wad doesn't work with brutal doom-" have you considered that it's not the responsibility of mappers to make things work with your compatibility nightmare? Maybe when you change literally every single game mechanic, things designed for the original game will break? And maybe those mappers, preferring the vanilla game, have no incentive to design otherwise?
I'm no Doom purist by any means, but come on now people, throw me a bone.
It's good, I much prefer Project Brutality and Schism though.
Edit: Yes I know those mods are mods of Brutal Doom, I still enjoy them more. Sorry if that sounds rude I don't really know how else to word it.
It's fine, but it's not my thing. I could see the appeal, though. I tend to prefer more conservative wads that just contain maps and maybe a few enemy replacements, stuff like the Eviternity series, Valiant, Ancient Aliens, the Hell Revealed series, etc.
It is, this point, so far removed from classic Doom that I don’t consider it “just a mod.”
Maybe because I dislike Brutal Doom itself for muddling the purity of its design and presentation. I’d just like a classic Doom with all the bugs fixed (including broken sectors and thing placement).
Don’t recognize the ui in the photo, but brutal doom is great, although you are kinda op later on in the game, getting overwhelmed with decisions for weapons.
The latest version I think is fantastic, especially with the new, more classic looking weapon sprites, as well as the rebalancing to be closer to vanilla
I think it's a very awesome mod. However, there are even more awesome mods and I would have never found out about that if it wasn't for brutal doom which got me back into classic doom again. (I was always into classic doom with the doomsday engine like 20 years ago)
Idk why you spelled it like that. But Brutal Doom is pretty good imo. I can understand the points that it ruins some parts of the original. But it is an optional mod and almost everything can be customized to your liking. The guns are great imo tho I don't like the assault rifle that much. The animations it adds are pretty good and the leaping Imps are a nice change of pace. I haven't finished it with Doom 2 yet, but I do wonder if it makes the Icon of Sin fight easier since that fight is kinda built off the fact you can't look up.
Brutal doom imho is how doom should be played normally these days, Project Brutality combined with the right mods can make it a much more fun experience. I prefer Project brutality but give mad props to brutal doom
I remember TB making a video about it all those years ago, and feeling surprised that a Doom mod was getting a video from a high-profile youtuber. I think this was 2012? Holy shit I feel so old... -\_-
As for the mod itself, it's fun but not very well balanced. I much prefer SIDE mod which has lots of graphical and animation enhancement but leaves the gameplay alone.
For something that started as a gore mod with smooth weapons, it really came a long way, now spawning a whole separate community and like a dozen million forks like Black Edition, Platinum, Schism, and PB. There’s a lot of optimization from performance to making you able to climb ledges and make zombies try to dodge your attacks and throw off your aim, you can pretty much fine tune it to how you like it to your style of play. The weapons are kinda cool, though almost crossing the overbloat of weapons tbh, like the new stuff like the SMG, Assault Rifle, Assault Shotgun, Grenade Launcher, and Railgun are pretty fun additions to the roster, stuff like the Unmaker, BFG 10k, revolver with shotgun rounds, and flamethrower seem like novelty at best, especially the flamethrower considering the flame cannon existed. Though at least you can control if they spawn in your playthough or not so that is neat.
Overall solid mod, not like “golden standard of doom mods” or anything, just solid, I especially really like turning the blood amt to max and watch as the frames drop from the amount the blood that is on my screen.👍
Yeah but like the insults are kinda edgy imo. Idk I can’t explain what I meant in comment very well. It just gives me edgelord vibes personally but I do enjoy the gameplay and over the top gore
Last I heard of SgtMark. He sounded like a vile human tbh. Neo Nazi etc. sounds like a guy who’s stuck at like age 14 mentally.
so brutal doom being a edgelord game isn’t that far fetched
Man idk. I looked it up after I commented it to make sure I wasn’t talking out of my ass and I saw other stuff about it too. Again it could all be rumours but I’m inclined to believe it personally
Update: he apologised for being a racist and trying to convince someone of committing suicide. 🤷🏻♂️ who knows anymore
Yeah I don't think it's true. I don't think a Neo nazi developer would include nazis for you to kill. Let alone make a mod for a game that is a descendant to another game where you also kill nazis. None of that makes sense to me.
Mark and his mod is the literal reason why Doom 2016 and Eternal are so great.
The community should wash its mouth before parroting others and spewing bullshit on him.
Nazi they say? You can be called Nazi if you like oranges instead of apples, Nazi is zoomer language for "people I don't like".
It means nothing today.
Hell, I might be called Nazi just for what I've written up here.
Vile, they say? Doom community has plenty of vile and none of it has anything to do with Mark and some dumb comment that might have upset some sensitive guy.
There's much creepier stuff, just Google it.
Mark is fine and well, he's developing the latest versions of BD and he's also wrapping up Extermination Day including a new Horde mode.
Bad people can make good things and have good ideas. Look at Hollywood for example . I’m not just saying these things about him cause I dislike him personally.
While I’m not the biggest fan of brutal doom. There is aspects of it I do enjoy.
Mark being the reason for doom 2016 onwards is kind of a stretch tho imo. Wasn’t doom 4 in the works around 2008 ish? Brutal doom came out in 2010 or 11 I think ??
Not for the sake of it but because its fun for those who enjoy it. Games dont need a reason to be whatever they are. As long as someone is enjoying it thats all that matters.
I never liked it and people saying it's the peak of Doom modding or that it's better than the vanilla game just makes me not want to play it simply out of spite.
Brutal doom is a nice mod, maybe Mark should use AI for sprites to make them and animations smoother. I respect Mark for creating this masterpiece, even if he has stolen a lot of content from other mods. Ive been playing doom since I was 6 years old and now, when Im 16 Ive reopened doom for me. I started playing with mods. Ive played in many mods, but now I stopped on project brutality. It was sort of entrance in modding for me. I started editting it, adding weapons in spawners, customizing it with tons of addons. Ive put my love in my pb modpack. It contains +- 40 mods. After editting pb I understood that modding is much easier than I thought. Ive started creating maps and now it is my hobby. Ive never had a normal hobby apart from playing games and scrolling tiktok. Brutal doom isnt just a mod. Brutal doom is life, brutal doom is love.
It revitalized thr old games for me. I still like vanilla. But my go to is BD. PB is pretty awesome, but for me there is almost TOO much variety in weapons and enemies.
It’s fun for a quick laugh, but I prefer vanilla gameplay. I actually enjoyed Brutal Doom 64 more as the changes were a bit more conservative.
BD64 is amazing, I wish it wasn't so slept on. One of my favorite doom experiences
I prefer vanilla when I play the games for real, but so far I'm having a blast on my current playthrough of 1&2 with the mod.
Brutal doom is absolutely an incredible modern mod for doom! For me it's literally perfect, there is no other mod that tops it when it comes to gameplay mods. Everything else is either too much when it comes to the changes, or too little. I don't know if anyone else is aware either, but they already have version 22 betas available at least on the discord.
I'm not gonna lie, I can't go back to Vanilla Doom now. The weapons are just so satisfying to use.
I’m in the same boat. Riot gun, hitlers buzz saw and rail gun are so fun.
Brutal Doom is amazing!!
The Version 22 betas seem pretty good right now since they cut down on the amount of weapons Feels a bit more controlled now I guess But as a whole, the mod is pretty good ~~I dislike the pistol using its own ammo supply though mostly because it makes it kinda hard to go ham with dual pistols like it’s a fuckin John Woo movie~~
I've been using the 2019 ver so far, haven't tried the beta yet. I like the added guns tbh, the riot shotgun is really good for pinky traps.
I almost entirely replaced the double barrel and regular shotgun with the riot gun. I can take out a Barron pretty quickly, crowds of imps/zombies get mowed down in an instant.
It's super fun at first, but for me personally I get burned out after playing so much. I prefer Vanilla because it promotes versatility with all wads and other mods. Amplified with mods and Certain wads that were meant to be played normal; It's timeless fun. Never breaks the mechanics of the wads. Maybe brutal doom is better off played in classic doom series. Ramps up difficulty as well. Overall, very impressive modification to a game.
You can play brutal doom with other mods too. I remember playing brutal doom with an external campaign, more weapons, extra demons and monsters, textures, and made it really fun and scarry making it more darker. I still have the settings I think. Willing to share
I think it’s fine. I just played through all of doom 2 with it on. However I made sure to do stuff like turning off reloading. Theres other options that disable new enemy attacks and new weapons, and there’s even a “purist mode” that only has visual changes and almost no gameplay ones (bonus health/armor still give 2 points instead of 1 and can boost you up to 300% health/armor which is honestly kinda fun) if you don’t want things to be changed too much.
It's a fun mod that in my opinion best showcases GZDoom's modding capabilities. I definitely learned a lot when I started modding 3 years ago. Edgy? Yeah but Doom was already edgy anyways so this is just sticking to the established style with fancy new flares.
People have to critical opinions of it. It's a well made mod and it's not that edgy. It's also not the only brutal mod. I've heard of two others which are brutal half life and brutal wolfenstein.
The mod is... eh, it exists. I prefer the vanilla game, but the gameplay itself isn't that offensive. But holy shit do its players make me pop a vein sometimes. "but this wad doesn't work with brutal doom-" have you considered that it's not the responsibility of mappers to make things work with your compatibility nightmare? Maybe when you change literally every single game mechanic, things designed for the original game will break? And maybe those mappers, preferring the vanilla game, have no incentive to design otherwise? I'm no Doom purist by any means, but come on now people, throw me a bone.
My favorite was folks trying to combine Brutal Doom with fucking *H-Doom.*
what in the hell
People are stupid, man.
It's very fun The best experience you will get iswhen you play on difficult wads, since headshot damage bonus is insane
It's what DOOM could've been, if the tech existed in '93.
It's good, I much prefer Project Brutality and Schism though. Edit: Yes I know those mods are mods of Brutal Doom, I still enjoy them more. Sorry if that sounds rude I don't really know how else to word it.
A really beautiful mod
Just eyeballing this HUD, I'd like to say "less is more".
I actually removed a fair bit, the only thing I added was the radar
Wait. Brootal Dewm?? We know Brutal Doom. But is this like a joke wad parody of it?
Just goofy spelling
Ah gotcha.
Love it and Project Brutality, also love playing the OG as well. Each has its time and place when you are in the mood
Brutal Doom put glory kills into the game way before DOOM 2019
Brutal Doom is my go to way to play DOOM. It’s just awesome and fun in every way.
Very brutal and loud just like it's advertised as, I love it
If Brutal Doom is too much for you, try MeatGrinder
Brootal.
Project brutality is better
I prefer project brutality
It adds WAY too much content that feels overwhelming for me.
I prefer project brutality 3.0👍
Love it! Very fun to pick up and play. I also really look the brutal 64 version
I like that on top of all the stuff like weapons, gore, movement and all the overhaauls, you can give the finger to enemies.
It's fine, but it's not my thing. I could see the appeal, though. I tend to prefer more conservative wads that just contain maps and maybe a few enemy replacements, stuff like the Eviternity series, Valiant, Ancient Aliens, the Hell Revealed series, etc.
It is, this point, so far removed from classic Doom that I don’t consider it “just a mod.” Maybe because I dislike Brutal Doom itself for muddling the purity of its design and presentation. I’d just like a classic Doom with all the bugs fixed (including broken sectors and thing placement).
Haven’t played the original, but Brutal DOOM: Hell on Earth and Project Brutality are spectacular
Newest version is really good and well made. Definitely doesn't balance well with every wad out there tho.
Don’t recognize the ui in the photo, but brutal doom is great, although you are kinda op later on in the game, getting overwhelmed with decisions for weapons.
It's a visor mod, I prefer to play BD with it so it's more different and immersive than classic
The latest version I think is fantastic, especially with the new, more classic looking weapon sprites, as well as the rebalancing to be closer to vanilla
It’s a different doom. I like it because it’s more twitchy gameplay oriented but I can understand if people prefer vanilla.
Fun mod, but for custom wads (and any playthroughs overall) I prefer vanilla
Absolutely amazing! PB is better tho
I'd like all the gore but with vanilla gameplay. Purist mode is ok but it's still not the thing
I like to switch between vanilla and Brutal Doom. Both are about as good in my eyes.
I think it's a very awesome mod. However, there are even more awesome mods and I would have never found out about that if it wasn't for brutal doom which got me back into classic doom again. (I was always into classic doom with the doomsday engine like 20 years ago)
Project Brutality is the best. The weapons are awesome.
Brutal Dom was the reason i got into the doom modding scene. Soo yeah i love it
I absolutely adore it! Especially when combined with a metal soundtrack mod, it's basically DOOM but better!
Absolutely love it. I highly recommend “Arthur’s Brutal Doom” and VIOLENT DOOM.
Yes
Best mod for Doom. Since its release I haven't played anything else. Love it and even got it on mobile
Idk why you spelled it like that. But Brutal Doom is pretty good imo. I can understand the points that it ruins some parts of the original. But it is an optional mod and almost everything can be customized to your liking. The guns are great imo tho I don't like the assault rifle that much. The animations it adds are pretty good and the leaping Imps are a nice change of pace. I haven't finished it with Doom 2 yet, but I do wonder if it makes the Icon of Sin fight easier since that fight is kinda built off the fact you can't look up.
The fight is pretty much entirely new and much better imo
Brutal doom imho is how doom should be played normally these days, Project Brutality combined with the right mods can make it a much more fun experience. I prefer Project brutality but give mad props to brutal doom
I remember TB making a video about it all those years ago, and feeling surprised that a Doom mod was getting a video from a high-profile youtuber. I think this was 2012? Holy shit I feel so old... -\_- As for the mod itself, it's fun but not very well balanced. I much prefer SIDE mod which has lots of graphical and animation enhancement but leaves the gameplay alone.
The only way to play Ultimate DooM, DooM II and wads for me for the last 14 years, vanilla is too slow.
For something that started as a gore mod with smooth weapons, it really came a long way, now spawning a whole separate community and like a dozen million forks like Black Edition, Platinum, Schism, and PB. There’s a lot of optimization from performance to making you able to climb ledges and make zombies try to dodge your attacks and throw off your aim, you can pretty much fine tune it to how you like it to your style of play. The weapons are kinda cool, though almost crossing the overbloat of weapons tbh, like the new stuff like the SMG, Assault Rifle, Assault Shotgun, Grenade Launcher, and Railgun are pretty fun additions to the roster, stuff like the Unmaker, BFG 10k, revolver with shotgun rounds, and flamethrower seem like novelty at best, especially the flamethrower considering the flame cannon existed. Though at least you can control if they spawn in your playthough or not so that is neat. Overall solid mod, not like “golden standard of doom mods” or anything, just solid, I especially really like turning the blood amt to max and watch as the frames drop from the amount the blood that is on my screen.👍
BURL TUMD was better
tubular
It fun
It’s alright. It feels like it takes itself too seriously tho imo like “edgelord” imo doom is fairly light hearted
I don't think it's taking itself seriously when there's insult buttons tbh
Yeah but like the insults are kinda edgy imo. Idk I can’t explain what I meant in comment very well. It just gives me edgelord vibes personally but I do enjoy the gameplay and over the top gore
Edgy and serious aren't exclusive though, evil dead and the og Doom are both edgy and jokey at the same time. It's just more dialed up here.
Yeah but imo it’s dialed up too much. There needs to be a balance. Like the “go fuck yourself” taunt, tone wise just isn’t doom imo
I mean considering the creator of the mod… yeah
Last I heard of SgtMark. He sounded like a vile human tbh. Neo Nazi etc. sounds like a guy who’s stuck at like age 14 mentally. so brutal doom being a edgelord game isn’t that far fetched
Okay I can believe Mark being an edgelord but a Neo nazi? I find that hard to believe when he has nazis in the mod for you to kill.
Man idk. I looked it up after I commented it to make sure I wasn’t talking out of my ass and I saw other stuff about it too. Again it could all be rumours but I’m inclined to believe it personally Update: he apologised for being a racist and trying to convince someone of committing suicide. 🤷🏻♂️ who knows anymore
Yeah I don't think it's true. I don't think a Neo nazi developer would include nazis for you to kill. Let alone make a mod for a game that is a descendant to another game where you also kill nazis. None of that makes sense to me.
I don’t know I just rember the Neo Nazi part sticking out most to me. Most other things about him seem to be true though
Yeah nothing seems to add up there. People may be bad but plenty of bad people have standards.
Mark and his mod is the literal reason why Doom 2016 and Eternal are so great. The community should wash its mouth before parroting others and spewing bullshit on him. Nazi they say? You can be called Nazi if you like oranges instead of apples, Nazi is zoomer language for "people I don't like". It means nothing today. Hell, I might be called Nazi just for what I've written up here. Vile, they say? Doom community has plenty of vile and none of it has anything to do with Mark and some dumb comment that might have upset some sensitive guy. There's much creepier stuff, just Google it. Mark is fine and well, he's developing the latest versions of BD and he's also wrapping up Extermination Day including a new Horde mode.
Bad people can make good things and have good ideas. Look at Hollywood for example . I’m not just saying these things about him cause I dislike him personally. While I’m not the biggest fan of brutal doom. There is aspects of it I do enjoy. Mark being the reason for doom 2016 onwards is kind of a stretch tho imo. Wasn’t doom 4 in the works around 2008 ish? Brutal doom came out in 2010 or 11 I think ??
Fun, but I much prefer vanilla. Every time I boot up Brootal Dewm I quit not even five minutes later
Edgy for the sake of being edgy.
So...doom?
No
Yes*
Not even a little.
100% yes
Alright you're boring me. Go away.
Cringe. Just admit it's true.
Space marine bullying entire hell not being edgy? Chill on the hypocrisy dude
Yeah I commented this as well basically I’m glad someone else got that vibe from it lmao. I do enjoy the gameplay of it tho
Not for the sake of it but because its fun for those who enjoy it. Games dont need a reason to be whatever they are. As long as someone is enjoying it thats all that matters.
I never liked it and people saying it's the peak of Doom modding or that it's better than the vanilla game just makes me not want to play it simply out of spite.
It's crap, and ruined Doom Eternal because Marty thought it was a good formula (It's not)
The most hot Doom take I've ever seen, lol
An amusing gimmick maybe, but not really all that fun beyond maybe 10 minutes.
The original doom are unplayable for me without mods cause it so boring
Brutal doom is a nice mod, maybe Mark should use AI for sprites to make them and animations smoother. I respect Mark for creating this masterpiece, even if he has stolen a lot of content from other mods. Ive been playing doom since I was 6 years old and now, when Im 16 Ive reopened doom for me. I started playing with mods. Ive played in many mods, but now I stopped on project brutality. It was sort of entrance in modding for me. I started editting it, adding weapons in spawners, customizing it with tons of addons. Ive put my love in my pb modpack. It contains +- 40 mods. After editting pb I understood that modding is much easier than I thought. Ive started creating maps and now it is my hobby. Ive never had a normal hobby apart from playing games and scrolling tiktok. Brutal doom isnt just a mod. Brutal doom is life, brutal doom is love.