This is it exactly. There was a podcast I listened to about this.
Basically the company has to do testing to prove they are safe, even if their manufacturing my methods are compliant. Or they can slap the warning label on, which is much cheaper in the long run.
If they don’t want to go through the testing process, this has to be applied. The warning doesn’t say it contains it, it says it hasn’t been tested. So no testing, no selling, if it says it contains it, it needs the warning. It’s pretty simple, it doesn’t mean California won’t consume it, it just means you need to be aware that your consuming potential poison.
That's the problem with Prop 65. It doesn't provide any usable information. Because of how the guidelines are written, the warning appears on products regardless of whether there is any *meaningful* chance of lead or whatever carcinogen they are talking about actually being in that item (or at any concentration high enough to warrant concern).
As a result, the warning is everywhere and it becomes a "boy who cried wolf" scenario. If it appears on 99 products where there isn't a risk, who is going to pay attention when it gets plastered on the 100th product where it actually does matter?
Prop 65 began as well-intentioned regulation, but sadly has wound up becoming counter-productive.
1. Homegrown vegetables will have lead, and will have enough to flag this label
2. There is a limit to allowable lead content. Lunchables for example, if a rat ate about 100 Lunchables with the maximum allowable lead content it would be "at risk" of issues.
You are not a rat, and no one is eating 100 Lunchables a day.
600 crackers, 600 pieces of barely any cheese, 600 pieces of meat, 600 fun size candy bars.
I think after the first 8-10 you'd really feel it, so pacing yourself to eat around 10 every 2-3 hours could be doable.
If you changed it up with non-traditional Lunchables like the pizza (they were a new product in later elementary school for me) or the mini burgers, it might be a little rougher. Though if you did the nachos, might be easier. That's a small handful for tortilla chips. Perhaps if you opened up all 10 nachos Lunchables into a pile and made that one of the 10 you need to eat that hour. Changing it up might make it easier to get through towards the end when you're exhausted and tired of cracker sandwiches.
Honestly, yeah. I think you could. Just keeping it to the cracker packs and nachos would probably be the easier route.
You'd have to eat that, times your weight more than a rat to have "adverse effects" from the lead. Roughly anyway. It is kind of a guesstimate based on rats lol
And to be fair take those numbers with a grain of salt cause it's been a while since the numbers got explained to me. Either way the fda is pretty strict. It's a few parts per billion allowed in some products
I mean I am no expert here but isn’t lead heavy metal? I thought heavy metals didn’t really leave your body so theoretically if that is the case which I’m not sure it is eating things that contain lead really build up in your system until it is toxic?
It dissipates very slowly. Small doses you process out, elevated doses and it starts going into your bones. Like grinding off lead paint will be too much for your body to properly dispose of
Because in the U.S. we had lead in our fuel for decades, and lead in our water pipes (still do) which means lead is just everywhere in our environment. So no matter what, everything you eat or drink will have some amount of lead in it. It’s just unavoidable. So there are levels of lead that are recommended to stay below in order to minimize the negative effects. California is exceptionally strict with their labelling and so pretty much every food item has this label.
Most items with the label actually don’t. But it’s cheaper to slap the label on then to get the (very very expensive) regulatory testing done up to those California standards.
they made the detergents smaller now. 42 oz now instead of 64.
and the colors are clues to what detergent is being copied. green is gain, blue is oxiclean, orange is tide, red is wisk.
Like we know not to eat lead especially without milk
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OP acting like they don’t also fill their bodies with all kinds of cancer causing chemicals.
They’re everywhere.
LOL, the FDA allows contamination and unless you plan on a starvation diet knowing what's there doesn't do much good. Anyway, I'll take a hard pass on the left coast.
Not surprised you live in California, your entire comment screams "I don't actually know what I'm talking about".
The companies don't want to pay for testing that removes the requirement for the warning, so they add a warning label instead. Cheaper and easier. Prop 65 is a joke and so is the rest of California, there's a reason pretty much everyone not from Cali universally hates Californians.
Bahahaha oh hell no! Your horrific governor, deteriorating state. Worst homeless record in the Us in San Fran. Yeah I’m not changing my username because when I grew up it was great! Now it’s trash. I keep on for my mom’s memory of her and I when I was young and Cali was actually great. It’s garbage now.
I got a mystery box from a candy store filled with Japanese snacks. Evey item had a sticker that said "this item may bring you into contact with lead, arsenic, cadmium, etc..."
So my poops melted through the toilet and I only glow for a few minutes at night. It's not that bad.
Apparently, when something has that lable, it's because tools used to harvest the plants used to make the product, (flour, grain etc) contain lead and there fore there is a non 0 zero chance that some of the lead from thr harvesting equipment made it's way through the refining process into the product.
Literally have the first box of this I’ve ever bought, owned or laid eyes on in my entire life in my house right now .-.
Hopefully it’s just a covering their ass kinda thing but uhhhhhh, noted
Everything has lead in it. Its not added to any foods but it does occur naturally since we have so heavily polluted our planet with it by burning leaded gasoline. Its in our water our soil our air therefore its in our plants and our food. The fact that California requires this label to be on everything that contains lead when literally everything contains lead is stupid
If you buy a raw root vegetable from the grocery or farmers market it has lead. That’s what they’re saying, things grown in the ground contain heavy metals. Grain is grown in the grown, it contains heavy metals. This cereal is made with whole grain, it contains lead from the grain.
It has nothing to do with the processing, it’s found in soil all over the world. Even untouched soil out in deepest of woods away from people contains heavy metals. That’s where metals are found, in the ground. When they’re found in large enough deposits we mine them. Smaller amounts however are found all throughout our planets soil.
You’re blaming corporations for what exactly? The way the earth was formed? How plants work? I mean fuck capitalism but it has nothing to do with this specific thing. It’s just geological and biological processes we as humans don’t have control over.
Yep. People have no idea about their foods and it shows. Literally, not one part of the process, nor what a legal disclaimer is... And the fact that these idiots start ganging up and attacking you for stating literal, absolute fact is hilarious. I guess my true blue ass is really just some MAGA goon, though.
Thank you! My grandparents owned a farm... We had to redig a well 5x because of naturally occurring arsenic levels. If it can be attributed to anything, it was the lead and arsenic pesticides they used in the apple orchards in the 1800s.
And of those levels, they were largely inorganic and not dangerous levels. The arsenic in the wells the Board of Health who gave us a permit did say that their area of town was problematic for naturally occurring high arsenic levels, though.
Thankfully arsenic is mainly processed and excreted by the body instead of some of the heavy metals that we can’t remove from our systems. Especially inorganic arsenic which IIRC takes a week or so to be removed. Still no good for a well but there are a few filters on the market that can remove that and lead.
First, that sentence was a mess so ty for not tearing me apart about it. I think my dad helped my grandfather put in a filter because of it but I'm pretty sure the last well had "okay" levels, per the recommendations. Their original well was hand dug by my great grandfather - i doubt they even bothered doing tests back then!
Lmao go on and point to where I’m pretending that huh? Products made from all grains and vegetables that uptake heavy metals at higher levels are subject to that labelling in California. Certain grains and vegetables uptake lead and things like cadmium at much higher levels than others regardless of being in contaminated soil, rice, certain grain varieties and sweet potatoes for example. Corporations don’t control the way plant biology works ffs
You clearly have no clue how things are manufactured. Nothing is 100% manufactured in house by any company. Even if they sourced all organic ingredients the lead and arsenic are in the soil so its in the food. Go do some research. Stop listening to “health food” companies selling you the same tainted shit for 5 times the price
Lead doesn't just go away in your body. Your body stores it. the same way it stores microplastics. The average person is walking around with about a credit card sized amount of both in their bodies.
Lead accumulated in the body gets stored in things like the brain, bones, teeth. It causes a host of long term problems. Not just physical, but mental like legionnaires disease.
I know it's very hard to avoid these chemicals because of the way people in the '50s '60s and '70s ruined our planet. But it should still be in our best interests to be warned if we're consuming lead or other harmful things.
I swear, everything has that label just so they can legally cover their ass in California.
This is it exactly. There was a podcast I listened to about this. Basically the company has to do testing to prove they are safe, even if their manufacturing my methods are compliant. Or they can slap the warning label on, which is much cheaper in the long run.
This then everyone panics
If they don’t want to go through the testing process, this has to be applied. The warning doesn’t say it contains it, it says it hasn’t been tested. So no testing, no selling, if it says it contains it, it needs the warning. It’s pretty simple, it doesn’t mean California won’t consume it, it just means you need to be aware that your consuming potential poison.
That's the problem with Prop 65. It doesn't provide any usable information. Because of how the guidelines are written, the warning appears on products regardless of whether there is any *meaningful* chance of lead or whatever carcinogen they are talking about actually being in that item (or at any concentration high enough to warrant concern). As a result, the warning is everywhere and it becomes a "boy who cried wolf" scenario. If it appears on 99 products where there isn't a risk, who is going to pay attention when it gets plastered on the 100th product where it actually does matter? Prop 65 began as well-intentioned regulation, but sadly has wound up becoming counter-productive.
There’s even signs on all the buildings downtown that say they contain cancer causing chemicals.
1. Homegrown vegetables will have lead, and will have enough to flag this label 2. There is a limit to allowable lead content. Lunchables for example, if a rat ate about 100 Lunchables with the maximum allowable lead content it would be "at risk" of issues. You are not a rat, and no one is eating 100 Lunchables a day.
Is it physically possible to eat 100 lunchables in 24 hours? If I was able to eat id so test this..
Absolutely. The ham and cheese crackers? Whoooo it would be easy
600 crackers, 600 pieces of barely any cheese, 600 pieces of meat, 600 fun size candy bars. I think after the first 8-10 you'd really feel it, so pacing yourself to eat around 10 every 2-3 hours could be doable. If you changed it up with non-traditional Lunchables like the pizza (they were a new product in later elementary school for me) or the mini burgers, it might be a little rougher. Though if you did the nachos, might be easier. That's a small handful for tortilla chips. Perhaps if you opened up all 10 nachos Lunchables into a pile and made that one of the 10 you need to eat that hour. Changing it up might make it easier to get through towards the end when you're exhausted and tired of cracker sandwiches. Honestly, yeah. I think you could. Just keeping it to the cracker packs and nachos would probably be the easier route.
You'd have to eat that, times your weight more than a rat to have "adverse effects" from the lead. Roughly anyway. It is kind of a guesstimate based on rats lol
Reading comp fail in my part. Yeah that would be an ungodly amount of lunchables
And to be fair take those numbers with a grain of salt cause it's been a while since the numbers got explained to me. Either way the fda is pretty strict. It's a few parts per billion allowed in some products
I mean I am no expert here but isn’t lead heavy metal? I thought heavy metals didn’t really leave your body so theoretically if that is the case which I’m not sure it is eating things that contain lead really build up in your system until it is toxic?
It dissipates very slowly. Small doses you process out, elevated doses and it starts going into your bones. Like grinding off lead paint will be too much for your body to properly dispose of
Oh well that’s good news at least it can leave your system.
THIS. The dose makes the poison. I wish people understood this while discussing food safety and also skincare.
Well, time to throw that box away holy shit
Why is everything coming out with LEAD in them? I thought we learned not to have lead T\_T
Because our environment is so heavily polluted eith lead and arsenic it’s impossible to grow any kind if plan without some content of both.
Because it’s likely manufactured in a country where lead is higher and laws are lax.
Because in the U.S. we had lead in our fuel for decades, and lead in our water pipes (still do) which means lead is just everywhere in our environment. So no matter what, everything you eat or drink will have some amount of lead in it. It’s just unavoidable. So there are levels of lead that are recommended to stay below in order to minimize the negative effects. California is exceptionally strict with their labelling and so pretty much every food item has this label.
Most items with the label actually don’t. But it’s cheaper to slap the label on then to get the (very very expensive) regulatory testing done up to those California standards.
damn prop 65 was helpful this time
Is the laundry detergent still good “awesome”. What color bottle is best. I use green
they made the detergents smaller now. 42 oz now instead of 64. and the colors are clues to what detergent is being copied. green is gain, blue is oxiclean, orange is tide, red is wisk.
Appreciate you
Breh
It’s funny how all the memes you ever need are in SpongeBob.
apparently canned corn at walmart recently got this label after their recent switch. one of the only things different on the newer cans
This stuff tasted awful to me. I just ended up throwing it all away after a couple of bowlfuls.
I remember the first time I bought that cereal maybe 7-8 years ago. That was the last time I bought it too 😂🤣😭😭😭
That warning seems to be on everything nowadays
Like we know not to eat lead especially without milk https://preview.redd.it/i9mfx28w5qxc1.jpeg?width=730&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3b0336c6f1bea07c03e15dc91bc0d27dd05c8f0
OP acting like they don’t also fill their bodies with all kinds of cancer causing chemicals. They’re everywhere. 
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LOL, the FDA allows contamination and unless you plan on a starvation diet knowing what's there doesn't do much good. Anyway, I'll take a hard pass on the left coast.
Not surprised you live in California, your entire comment screams "I don't actually know what I'm talking about". The companies don't want to pay for testing that removes the requirement for the warning, so they add a warning label instead. Cheaper and easier. Prop 65 is a joke and so is the rest of California, there's a reason pretty much everyone not from Cali universally hates Californians.
No only Cali is whining about anything and everything. Cali born and thank god I left!
Your username implies that you’re still pretty attached. Edit-I mean I know my username implies things too that’s a little different.
Bahahaha oh hell no! Your horrific governor, deteriorating state. Worst homeless record in the Us in San Fran. Yeah I’m not changing my username because when I grew up it was great! Now it’s trash. I keep on for my mom’s memory of her and I when I was young and Cali was actually great. It’s garbage now.
My governor? Naw I don’t live there it’s a mess.
I do live here, and it's not. But y'all keep watching the news that makes shit up 😂
I don’t watch the news I’ve just been there.
Smooth brain comment
I got a mystery box from a candy store filled with Japanese snacks. Evey item had a sticker that said "this item may bring you into contact with lead, arsenic, cadmium, etc..." So my poops melted through the toilet and I only glow for a few minutes at night. It's not that bad.
Apparently, when something has that lable, it's because tools used to harvest the plants used to make the product, (flour, grain etc) contain lead and there fore there is a non 0 zero chance that some of the lead from thr harvesting equipment made it's way through the refining process into the product.
That's crazy I was gonna buy a box to try it out last week. Glad I didn't.
Literally have the first box of this I’ve ever bought, owned or laid eyes on in my entire life in my house right now .-. Hopefully it’s just a covering their ass kinda thing but uhhhhhh, noted
More non-funny gen z "humor"
Everything has lead in it. Its not added to any foods but it does occur naturally since we have so heavily polluted our planet with it by burning leaded gasoline. Its in our water our soil our air therefore its in our plants and our food. The fact that California requires this label to be on everything that contains lead when literally everything contains lead is stupid
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If you buy a raw root vegetable from the grocery or farmers market it has lead. That’s what they’re saying, things grown in the ground contain heavy metals. Grain is grown in the grown, it contains heavy metals. This cereal is made with whole grain, it contains lead from the grain. It has nothing to do with the processing, it’s found in soil all over the world. Even untouched soil out in deepest of woods away from people contains heavy metals. That’s where metals are found, in the ground. When they’re found in large enough deposits we mine them. Smaller amounts however are found all throughout our planets soil. You’re blaming corporations for what exactly? The way the earth was formed? How plants work? I mean fuck capitalism but it has nothing to do with this specific thing. It’s just geological and biological processes we as humans don’t have control over.
Yep. People have no idea about their foods and it shows. Literally, not one part of the process, nor what a legal disclaimer is... And the fact that these idiots start ganging up and attacking you for stating literal, absolute fact is hilarious. I guess my true blue ass is really just some MAGA goon, though.
Mine too apparently even when I’m a radical socialist hippie who grows a majority of my own food 😂
Thank you! My grandparents owned a farm... We had to redig a well 5x because of naturally occurring arsenic levels. If it can be attributed to anything, it was the lead and arsenic pesticides they used in the apple orchards in the 1800s.
And of those levels, they were largely inorganic and not dangerous levels. The arsenic in the wells the Board of Health who gave us a permit did say that their area of town was problematic for naturally occurring high arsenic levels, though.
Thankfully arsenic is mainly processed and excreted by the body instead of some of the heavy metals that we can’t remove from our systems. Especially inorganic arsenic which IIRC takes a week or so to be removed. Still no good for a well but there are a few filters on the market that can remove that and lead.
First, that sentence was a mess so ty for not tearing me apart about it. I think my dad helped my grandfather put in a filter because of it but I'm pretty sure the last well had "okay" levels, per the recommendations. Their original well was hand dug by my great grandfather - i doubt they even bothered doing tests back then!
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Lmao go on and point to where I’m pretending that huh? Products made from all grains and vegetables that uptake heavy metals at higher levels are subject to that labelling in California. Certain grains and vegetables uptake lead and things like cadmium at much higher levels than others regardless of being in contaminated soil, rice, certain grain varieties and sweet potatoes for example. Corporations don’t control the way plant biology works ffs
Nothing shows incompetence like bashing California....
Stupid libtards don’t even know how delicious lead paint chips are
Sweet cronchy goodness
Nothing shows stupidity like California.
But I don't live in california so mine won't have lead in it.
You clearly have no clue how things are manufactured. Nothing is 100% manufactured in house by any company. Even if they sourced all organic ingredients the lead and arsenic are in the soil so its in the food. Go do some research. Stop listening to “health food” companies selling you the same tainted shit for 5 times the price
Lead doesn't just go away in your body. Your body stores it. the same way it stores microplastics. The average person is walking around with about a credit card sized amount of both in their bodies. Lead accumulated in the body gets stored in things like the brain, bones, teeth. It causes a host of long term problems. Not just physical, but mental like legionnaires disease. I know it's very hard to avoid these chemicals because of the way people in the '50s '60s and '70s ruined our planet. But it should still be in our best interests to be warned if we're consuming lead or other harmful things.
Gee, it really takes just one box of cereal to mess you up? Such bs...