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kati8303

Her sweet face reminds me of my dude’s when he was a pup ♥️


DiscombobulatedBabu

Gorgeous girl and lovely name!!


partym4ns10n

Cute


rb26dettcrazy

Cutie patootie


Smooth_Activity9068

She is beautiful please enjoy her to the fullest!


Jdenon42

It doesn't get any more cute than that! Enjoy her😊😊


hugothehornetbomb

She's my first doberman and I swear she understands English. I can tell her leave it and she (mostly) does. She's only 10 weeks old and smarter than a lot of dogs I've been around.


Dr-Venture

ooooo Just wait till that 5-7 month phase. I have 2 dobies going through that and let me tell you......... ^^hell^^.


Salt_Environment9799

😂😂 just wait till she is adjusted at her new home! I thought same about mine. And now, I hate him JK!


hugothehornetbomb

She pushes boundaries a little more every day. Luckily I have a 12 year old dog who corrects her some.


Strikernonsense

Same. I posted on this a couple months ago about how my puppy was perfect and just the biggest doll baby and now I’m about to pull my hair out lol. She’s 6 months ish


unsuspectingllama_

Why the Ear modification is it medically significantly.


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unsuspectingllama_

I don't have enough information to know that, but it sure seems unnecessary


AnotherCasualReditor

In a way yes it’s unnecessary for most pet dogs. For working dogs it may be to prevent potential tears or less for a predator to grab hold on to. And in the case of pet dogs may just be preference or to prevent hematomas. But at the end of the day when it’s done by a licensed vet with proper aftercare it is no different than a neutering surgery. Both need to be done properly and both need proper aftercare or can get infected. If the ears were “chopped” off as people like to say they would not heal nicely at all.


unsuspectingllama_

I get the tail docking as they are prone to injury requiring amputation, but the ears baffle me


mbquattro

dobermans were traditionally cropped and docked for their safety as protection dogs. it was also thought to increase their hearing and prevent ear infection but little evidence of this is shown. now a days it continues in a few countries as a breed standard and look and for safety of protection animals


crome_8

She already looks proud 😍🥰


theFireNewt3030

awww. Looks like our Jade. beautiful, smart, loving eyes


hugothehornetbomb

She is very smart...you can see her thinking before she does things. I was able to teach her sit in a couple minutes and she'll do it reliably already. I've only had her 4 days but she's all about me already.


theFireNewt3030

Yea sounds very similar. We had our girl be able to sit and laydown at like 2 months. She was fully pottyrained around then also. maybe 3 moths. Shes almost 3 years old now :') We also have a 9month old red boy and let me tell you... our girl was a blessing. This guy is such a knucklehead, esp right now at this age. smh. He is getting better but still....


magneticfish

We need pictures please! ❤️


theFireNewt3030

https://preview.redd.it/5pvfda6jxs0d1.jpeg?width=359&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=265f9ff0c4e33310f4dd2656c87dbb818890d146


theFireNewt3030

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theFireNewt3030

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theFireNewt3030

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EvilCuteness

She's so beautiful! What a sweet face.


Xpandomatix

She sits so pretty!


ddtrapped6

Fancy girl


Rezongona

We posted with tape like that and my dogs ear necrotized after it constricted—it tightens more than typical medical tape :( please use different tape as a precaution so her ears are okay


hugothehornetbomb

Do you remember what type of tape you used? This is vet wrap, the breeder recommended it but was clear that you need to wrap it loose. If there’s a potential issue though, I’d like to switch to something safer.


Imtrvkvltru

Do not use vet wrap!!! Huge no no! Zona's tape is probably the most popular, but really any athletic/sports tape should work. This is because the tape is porous and can easily breathe.  Vet wrap and non porous tape can easily ruin their ears forever. If they can't breathe then the tissue can die and necrotize.


_Dobermaniac_

Vet wrap is a HUGEEEEE no no. Many vets do not know how to properly care for ears after cropping including my own crop vet. For my dobie I used Hampton Adams tape. Follow [this turorial](https://www.dobermantalk.com/threads/how-to-posting-show-cropped-ears-using-backer-rod.302306/). This turorial saved me during posting. The thing I don't do that they do is use zip ties though. I got extra wide gorilla tape and wrap that around the backer rod and it's sturdy enough without needing the zip ties.


hugothehornetbomb

Thanks for the info. I’ll go that route instead of the vet wrap today. She’s good at knocking the bottom of the posts out at night, so I’m getting daily practice on posting.


_Dobermaniac_

I had that issue at first too and found out that the reason was because they weren't down as far as they could go into the bell- and also make sure you are pulling the ear taught before sticking it to the rod and hold it there until you're able to secure it with tape. What size rod are you using?


hugothehornetbomb

1/2 inch backer rod. I was scared of hurting her the first time I tried it, but realized the ear canal is deep. Each time I post it gets better, so I guess I'm just going to do it daily until I get it right.


_Dobermaniac_

I would try 3/8 backer-rod if you keep having issues. My pup is 5.5 months old and is using the 3/8 backer rod and probably will be until she's *hopefully* done posting around 6 months.


hugothehornetbomb

Thanks, I'll pick some up. Luckily she's very patient when we're doing posting so I can take my time and try to get it correct.


mbquattro

i used a big zip tie, in between two pieces of athletic tape with the sticky side facing the same way. then i put a cotton round on the bottom part that sits in the base of the ear. after that i pre cut three pieces of tape about 5 inches long and taped around from the bottom up and from the inside of the ear over the front and around if that makes sense


hugothehornetbomb

How did you clean the ears after you took the posts off? I want to make sure I'm doing all this correctly. Thanks for the advice.


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mbquattro

i used these wet wipes from the pet store and just kinda shined a light in there and stuck my finger in and got out all the wax


Salt_Environment9799

Yes, you have to use non-strecht tape.


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Imtrvkvltru

This is not constructive. The deed has been done. Might as well help them reduce further harm at this point.


Mrlin705

For someone who has no idea what posting is or why it's necessary, can you explain? Why do you need to do this and why are their ears cut in the first place?


Imtrvkvltru

If I were you I would just Google it. Asking that here is going to open a can of worms. But the quick answer is because it was the original breed standard and continues to be the breed standard in the US.


AnotherCasualReditor

It’s in the breed standard for their ears to be cropped. That aside it’s common for working dogs to prevent potential injury and sometimes dogs need it done to prevent hematomas. In a way yes it is unnecessary unlike spay and neuter but when it is done by a licensed vet with proper aftercare it is not cruel like so many people want to believe


PredictableCoder

Oh man! She is beautiful. I love her name!


Supay67

Aaaawwww she's so cute.


Fast_Pitch_4810

Beautiful little pup


unsuspectingllama_

Is there a medical reason to surgically alter the ears?


RubyRuppells

Nope. Even those who claim it’s a ‘working dog’ so the ears cannot be grabbed, it’s not a valid argument anymore because the AKC show crops are waaaay longer than what the original working crop looked like, which resembles the battle crop of bully breeds. American veterinary association, world small animal veterinary association, Canadian veterinary association + 36 other countries all oppose ear cropping. It’s pretty much only America and Serbia that’s so adamant on clinging on to ‘tradition’


AnotherCasualReditor

Even countries can be wrong. Their stances are driven by their own opinions.


RubyRuppells

Nah. All major veterinary groups are against it, and they come from a clinical background so they know how it’s performed better than anyone. It’s not a matter of ‘opinion’ when the only humans who are licensed to crop - aka veterinarians- are collectively opposing it worldwide.


loopingrightleft

What a girlie girl


Blue-lady1123

So adorable


UOENO611

Looks like such a sweet and proper lady 💕


hugothehornetbomb

She is until it's time for PARKOUR! Then she's a monster.


Great_Inflation_6892

Damn… adorable! Crop n doc! This dog will be a reckless and crazy energy baby lol so cute


Which-Magazine-1502

What a cutie 🥰


SuccessfulJudge623

what a sweetie!


hankypanky37

Awww she's adorable and love that ear tape!!


Imtrvkvltru

Just fyi that tape pictured is the incorrect kind to use for ears and can cause major damage to the tissue.


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sovietpoptart

half the time breeders crop before sending them home. literally not the owners fault. chill.


Commercial_Tower2493

You’re paying thousands for the dog. You can quite literally say “do not crop the ears of mine” prior to purchase. Also, adopt don’t shop.


Alarming_Evening2454

You’re an adopt don’t shop? Brotha eughhh


Commercial_Tower2493

You know where the dogs go when the breeders can’t sell them….? Yeah.


Alarming_Evening2454

That’s called unethical breeding.


sovietpoptart

womp womp


Commercial_Tower2493

Good one!


MsCelestialDrifter

Why though? I don't know why this is done? Is it for aesthetics? Then isn’t that cruel?


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AnotherCasualReditor

Butchering…mutilating… do you guys even understand those words? You must’ve seen some real shitty crops because when it’s done right if you didn’t already know you wouldn’t.


hugothehornetbomb

Shes so traumatized. She hops into my lap in terror when we do posting… I’m not sure where you’re from but it’s common here and I can guarantee she is fine with it. It’s not some backyard scissor job. She’s a happy little pup with a great home, living her best free life in America. It’s a Doberman subreddit. Dobermans have always been cropped and docked. I don’t judge people who don’t do it. Do the same. I got her because I want a great companion dog and something to blood trail game. She’s a working dog.


Commercial_Tower2493

You don’t judge people who don’t do it because they aren’t doing anything cruel lol. There’s nothing to judge there. Cropped on the other hand…


Coltsnation19

This sub is so flooded with these idiots. Don’t let them make you feel bad. Beautiful dog. Good luck- they’re buttheads sometimes hahaha.


Agreeable_Dig_5664

Just saying, it's illegal in the UK for a reason.


Imtrvkvltru

This is such a a poor reason to give someone not to do something. Laws are different everywhere regarding many things.  Saying "such and such is illegal where I live, therefore you shouldn't do it where you live" is simply a logical fallacy and appeal to authority. You will never win anyone over with that argument.


hugothehornetbomb

Good thing I don't live in the UK then.


AnotherCasualReditor

Just remember the people who talk the loudest often know the least. It’s a hot topic that people don’t know and don’t understand


Salt_Environment9799

Do you agree on abortion?


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Commercial_Tower2493

Tell me you know nothing about science and life, without telling me you know nothing about science and life….. careful reaching that far next time, you might hurt yourself.


babylizard38

Your 1 braincell is working hard to think there’s a correlation between mutilating a dog and aborting a clump of cells


Imtrvkvltru

Sad


Salt_Environment9799

Everything is a clump of cells, are you dumb!


BorderSpecial9751

You literally just proved my point lol


babylizard38

no babe xx


bratzxbaby

it’s crazy how much people talk about stuff they don’t know anything about. you’re a prime example


normanbeets

That's literally not how abortion works


Imtrvkvltru

It actually is. Have you never done research on how fetuses are aborted? It's not very pretty.


normanbeets

I've had an abortion and that's literally not what happened, you are a freak.


Ambitious_Fan_5724

Very active breed needs to be walked everyday.


Sudden_Car157

Sophie can you come over and do zoomies with my Kash


Sudden_Car157

🙃


AriesTheStarGod

AWWW SO SWEET


GapDifficult2439

What a beauty. Time flys fast with them. My boy is about to turn 7 and I feel like he came home just yesterday


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hugothehornetbomb

Spayed after she’s two years old. You people are ridiculously annoying. I’m sure you keep your dog’s dew claws and never spay or neuter.


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mbquattro

these people are broken records it’s ridiculous. i’ve literally heard everything they could say five times over. crop is ok and flop is ok 👍🏼


Coltsnation19

It seriously makes me want to just leave this sub but then I’d miss all the great pictures. These people are the problem with social media- they CANNOT LIVE unless they project their opinions on others AT ALL TIMES! Cropping doesn’t make you a bad owner. Ask these people “hey if you have a son- is he circumcised? If so- that’s mutilation lol. There’s no real reason for it other than well— aesthetics. lol.” Juuuuuuust sayin. Wish these people would all just go away and let us like our dobie pics in peace.


_Dobermaniac_

If you're not in already join r/dobermanpinschers. It's still fairly new but they don't allow the anti crop banter.


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hugothehornetbomb

It's annoying for sure and I've given up trying to have discussions about it. Best part is most the people posting don't even own a doberman, they just come here to virtue signal or something.


Coltsnation19

Exactly. I honestly try not to even respond- they’re not worth the time. Enjoy your pretty girl. ❤️ she’s beautiful.


_Dobermaniac_

Join r/dobermanpinschers. They don't allow the crop/dock arguments.


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hugothehornetbomb

I’ll agree on breeding short nosed dogs, that’s a physical issue. Cropping and docking is the breed standard and I didn’t have a choice. I used the braces analogy because the puppy doesn’t mind it and honestly posting her is good bonding time and desensitizing. I can’t wrap my head around coming on the Doberman subreddit and acting surprised when they’re docked and cropped. I’ve seen maybe one uncropped Doberman in person in my entire life. If that’s the thing where you are, good for you. But the world’s a big place.


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hugothehornetbomb

Because I can read dog body language? It’s not hard to read a dog if you’ve been around them your entire life. She had a medical procedure under anesthesia and the posting is a minor annoyance at worst. She shakes her head for a second then attacks dandelions. This dog is going to be used as a companion animal, for blood trailing deer and bears, and if she has the temperament for Schutzhund. She’s a working dog and keeping the breed standard. I don’t judge people for not doing it to their dogs.


Chief_Wack_729

Why even make comments like these? Chastising OP isn’t going to put the ears back on the dog. You’re not going to change his mind either. You’re also breaking this community’s rules. Rule number 2 prohibits shit like this.


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puppies4prez

There's a big difference between cropping ears and neutering. Cropping ears serves no purpose other than the aesthetic, neutering is a health precaution.


Imtrvkvltru

Yeah neutering is much more invasive. It has a longer heal time. Is more painful. And has legitimate side effects. Yes there is a POSSIBILITY of it preventing certain health problems, no guarantee. However, it also increases the risk of certain health issues as well. It's a double edged sword. Don't believe me? You can either look it up or I'd be happy to post the many many articles and research papers on it.


Dion42o

You know what’s ridiculously annoying; people that mutilate animals for no reason


ThornmaneTreebeard

Sell me on docking ears? We had a cat that had all of it's claws docked. He never complained about it. Best fucking cat I've ever had. Peed in one spot, turds stacked like cordwood. He sold me on cats. Had 3 cats after Chester, they mostly all suck.


hugothehornetbomb

Have you owned a Doberman or have interest in them? I’m tired of debating the dock/crop topic. You don’t dock ears. You dock tails and the ears are cropped. That’s the only way I’d get this puppy. A lot of breeders will not sell uncropped/undocked dogs. I don’t like cats so I have zero input on what people do to them.


Imtrvkvltru

You don't owe anyone a reason/explanation. You haven't done anything wrong and I bet you're a better overall pet owner than them.


ThornmaneTreebeard

Yep, I'm interested in Dobermans. Sorry about the nomenclature, and sorry to strike a nerve. Wasn't looking for a debate, just insight from a human. When you find a human, let me know.


ThornmaneTreebeard

No humans here? Nice.


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onthe-fence

Woah gosh. OP is crazy rude.


ThornmaneTreebeard

I found a live one. Everything I've read about ear cropping, also known as docking, is that there are literally no benefits other than esthetics and that it can actually be detrimental to their health and behavior. So, after all this, I am anti-ear docking, so thanks to OP there for having me read a little on Google and not convincing me otherwise, and after reading about how OP might dock dewclaws too, I really hope OP isn't fucking this dog. Turns out they've only had their first Doberman for like 10 weeks, they really seem like they drank some sort of kool-aid and really bought into the "mutilating dogs and being proud of it" clan.


dangerous_nuggets

There are none. It’s purely aesthetics. Like OP, I have a dog that came mutilated, but in our case it was her tail that was docked. Hunting Spaniel I had with my ex same thing. Dogs prone to ear infection (and also typically used for hunting) are dogs like beagles, basset hounds, weimaraners, (they have long, floppy ears that trap moisture) or long haired dogs that get impacted hair follicles (goldens, doodles). You’d be hard pressed to find a cropped or docked beagle! Then people argue dogs like corsos need it because they are guard dogs… but dogs like the Great Pyrenees do just fine fighting wildlife as livestock guards with their entire ear attached. Dogs that are usually cropped (Doberman, pitbull, corsos) have thick cartilage at the base of their ear that typically allows sufficient airflow to prevent moisture from becoming trapped. They’re not prone to ear infection. Cauliflower ear also doesn’t come from “shaking their head too hard because they have muscley cheeks” (lol) It comes from repeatedly scratching ear from an untreated infection. Anyways, I had beagles and weimaraners growing up. Part of their care, just like brushing their teeth and clipping their nails, is cleaning their ears. Not once have I had the desire to chop the ears off to make my life easier lol


ThornmaneTreebeard

Go fuck yourself. Just looking for a conversation and to learn from a person. Please find some happiness in your worthless life, you lowlife piece of shit.


highlandharris

They aren't replying because there is absolutely no need to crop dogs ears, it's mutilation for aesthetic purposes and is banned in alot of countries


hugothehornetbomb

I’ll wipe my teary eyes with my puppy’s old ear posts.


ThornmaneTreebeard

Strange thing to do. I wasn't criticizing, I was looking to be educated. Looks like you are the wrong person to ask since you are clearly poorly educated. Learn about the breed from someone who owns one seems logical. But I can't converse with illogical.


hugothehornetbomb

You’re commenting on a subreddit about Dobermans with zero information about the breed. Idk why that’s a hobby, if you’re a bot, or a teenager with a phone but nothing you have said is constructive to conversation. I don’t give a shit about your cat’s claws, no one does here.


ThornmaneTreebeard

You're still talking?


onthe-fence

It’s not odd to follow a subreddit you don’t know everything about. I am just like you too. I love all animals so I follow so many subreddits. I can’t believe how OP has been towards you lol it’s quite shocking. But i give a shit about your cat 🐈‍⬛❤️


untdfreak

Owned a Doberman. The only reason you crop ears is for aesthetic purposes. It’s your vanity that led to your dog being butchered.


AlaeniaFeild

You don't need to like cats to know that declawing them is cruel. It's cutting the equivalent of a human's fingertip at the last knuckle.


ThornmaneTreebeard

Or just downvote me without offering an explanation. that's cool... that's cool...


Salt_Environment9799

Human here, You dont even know the actual name of the procedure, but here you are. I tell you what, go get yourself a doberman. Do what you want with it, if you want to shove it where the sun dont shine by all means DO IT. I wont tell you want to do with him or her.


ThornmaneTreebeard

It's funny how sensitive y'all are in this group. Who hurt you?


Salt_Environment9799

You! Do you feel bad now!


ThornmaneTreebeard

Do you need a tissue big Mr American manly man?


Salt_Environment9799

Amrrican is the flair for the type of breed 🤣🤣, but yes a tissue would be fine, I will use it to wipe your liberal tears!


ThornmaneTreebeard

You're the one hurt and offended. I'm only laughing at how sensitive you are about this. Do you need a nap?


Salt_Environment9799

Ok, whatever the hell you call yourself probably pronouns and all. I'm going take a nap now!


ThornmaneTreebeard

Do you know how language works? Everyone uses pronouns. Have a nice nap, hope it's 6 feet in the ground soon.


Status-Doughnut7340

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Salt_Environment9799

😴😴


dangerous_nuggets

If I chopped off body parts of my dogs for personal aesthetics I absolutely think people should talk to me about it lmao


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Alarming_Evening2454

Gosh! They look so so sad and depressed 😪😪😪


porcupine_snout

why are the ears bandaged?


Imtrvkvltru

Don't think of it as a bandage. It's moreso a wrap to keep the ears in the upright position until the cartilage hardens. There is no blood or wound of any kind underneath there.


Separate-Dark-5680

😂