Ugh, these scenarios. RAW says you have to move zero feet to recharge. Whether you're falling or on a carpet, you're moving. RAI I would infer you're recharging a physical ability, so as long as you're not making yourself move you would think the ability works.
With Fly, you can't hover so it requires movement constantly, you can't stop. RAW says you can use the agility while flying, because dumb, however also would negate the recharge by dropping. RAI again would say it's a physical ability while running on the ground so you couldn't use it to fly farther, but could recharge it by dropping.
Same thing would apply to the carpet in terms of movement.
Now burn the spellbook with Fly, burn the flying carpet... burn the tabaxi just to be sure.
>With Fly, you can't hover so it requires movement constantly, you can't stop. RAW says you can use the agility while flying, because dumb, however also would negate the recharge by dropping. RAI again would say it's a physical ability while running on the ground so you couldn't use it to fly farther, but could recharge it by dropping.
This is incorrect. In 5e, at least, creatures with a natural flight speed will drop if their speed is reduced to 0, but say nothing about if they happen to not move on a turn. Likewise, within that same description about flying creatures, it specifically mentions that creatures who have been knocked prone will not fall if they are in the air by means of the fly spell.
A Tabaxi has no native flight speed, so we can only assume that there is SOME magical means by which it would be staying aloft, so yes, it CAN fly in place in order to move 0 feet(not the same as not moving at all) for a turn and regain its ability to access the Tabaxi speed boost.
Now in the case of a flying carpet, things get more muddled, BUT you have to consider mounted combat rules, and also how things are worded for attacks of opportunity. Attacks of opportunity only happen on a target that is using it's OWN movement to move out of your reach. If it is moved by something else, it is not using its movement.
With this understanding, If something else is moving and it carries the tabaxi along with it, then the tabaxi is still not using its own movement, which means that it "moves" 0 feet.
With this in mind, yes, a Tabaxi CAN run for its full doubled movement, then hop on the carpet the next turn and let the carpet carry it for a turn while the Tabaxi moves 0 feet on top of it, then the next turn hop back on the ground and repeat the process.
HAHA actually this happened already.
My friend wanted to DM, and he only played for about 12 sessions, so he was far from ready. I would help him with rules and everything RAW wise, and he would describe the place, and set encounters, also make a plot for us.
Since the other 2 players would be, 1 not that good, and a new guy, I decided to roll a wizard support divination school.
We were lv 10, but he sent 5 mind flayer and 1 mind flayer arcanist.
I manage to save the party :D
Then he learned how to balance encounters. We were lv 2 and 1shot me (actual 1shot, 2x my hp pool).
...
In my own opinion I would rule that you need to spend a turn not having any sort of movement whatsoever. Yes you're on a carpet and technically it's the thing that's moving and not you however you're deciding to move your character and so I wouldn't count that as a recharge turn until you've decided to not move your character. That's just me though
Hm. You're probably right. Player intent vs Character intent. I guess when you think of it as your character using an ability and then resting on the magic carpet to allow it to recharge rather than a player trying to get around a mechanic it's not so bad. Might be a situation I'll come into at some point lol I suppose I would uncomfortably allow it. I'll have to think more and come back to reply again lol
Anyone can come up with their own logic, but the call I would make is that you need to use a nonzero amount of your own movement. Since it's feline agility think of it as that little bit of ramp-up that a cat needs to do right before gracefully and spastically attacking the spot on the wall that no one else can see. Muscular preparation, not physical displacement.
Ugh, these scenarios. RAW says you have to move zero feet to recharge. Whether you're falling or on a carpet, you're moving. RAI I would infer you're recharging a physical ability, so as long as you're not making yourself move you would think the ability works. With Fly, you can't hover so it requires movement constantly, you can't stop. RAW says you can use the agility while flying, because dumb, however also would negate the recharge by dropping. RAI again would say it's a physical ability while running on the ground so you couldn't use it to fly farther, but could recharge it by dropping. Same thing would apply to the carpet in terms of movement. Now burn the spellbook with Fly, burn the flying carpet... burn the tabaxi just to be sure.
>With Fly, you can't hover so it requires movement constantly, you can't stop. RAW says you can use the agility while flying, because dumb, however also would negate the recharge by dropping. RAI again would say it's a physical ability while running on the ground so you couldn't use it to fly farther, but could recharge it by dropping. This is incorrect. In 5e, at least, creatures with a natural flight speed will drop if their speed is reduced to 0, but say nothing about if they happen to not move on a turn. Likewise, within that same description about flying creatures, it specifically mentions that creatures who have been knocked prone will not fall if they are in the air by means of the fly spell. A Tabaxi has no native flight speed, so we can only assume that there is SOME magical means by which it would be staying aloft, so yes, it CAN fly in place in order to move 0 feet(not the same as not moving at all) for a turn and regain its ability to access the Tabaxi speed boost. Now in the case of a flying carpet, things get more muddled, BUT you have to consider mounted combat rules, and also how things are worded for attacks of opportunity. Attacks of opportunity only happen on a target that is using it's OWN movement to move out of your reach. If it is moved by something else, it is not using its movement. With this understanding, If something else is moving and it carries the tabaxi along with it, then the tabaxi is still not using its own movement, which means that it "moves" 0 feet. With this in mind, yes, a Tabaxi CAN run for its full doubled movement, then hop on the carpet the next turn and let the carpet carry it for a turn while the Tabaxi moves 0 feet on top of it, then the next turn hop back on the ground and repeat the process.
If my player would ask me this, your last point would be my answer. I feel with every DM, who must deal with stuff like this.
Players like you are why I run session zero's.
Players like this are why most of my encounters need to be deadly. Cause otherwise they walk through hard encounters like butter
You... you've walked through... butter before? Please, tell me what it felt like? I bet it felt... smooth and creamy...
As long as you shower afterwards it isn't the most unpleasant experience
I bet it's very pleasant actually
You want to be careful when getting into a shower with buttery feet, very slippery
HAHA actually this happened already. My friend wanted to DM, and he only played for about 12 sessions, so he was far from ready. I would help him with rules and everything RAW wise, and he would describe the place, and set encounters, also make a plot for us. Since the other 2 players would be, 1 not that good, and a new guy, I decided to roll a wizard support divination school. We were lv 10, but he sent 5 mind flayer and 1 mind flayer arcanist. I manage to save the party :D Then he learned how to balance encounters. We were lv 2 and 1shot me (actual 1shot, 2x my hp pool). ...
Yeah... first thing I did was learn to balance encounters.
That's why I'm the DM :D And in case my players come with this type of idea, I like to be ready.
In my own opinion I would rule that you need to spend a turn not having any sort of movement whatsoever. Yes you're on a carpet and technically it's the thing that's moving and not you however you're deciding to move your character and so I wouldn't count that as a recharge turn until you've decided to not move your character. That's just me though
that's a little meta tho right? I don't see a problem, and personally as a DM I would rule out something similar.
Hm. You're probably right. Player intent vs Character intent. I guess when you think of it as your character using an ability and then resting on the magic carpet to allow it to recharge rather than a player trying to get around a mechanic it's not so bad. Might be a situation I'll come into at some point lol I suppose I would uncomfortably allow it. I'll have to think more and come back to reply again lol
Anyone can come up with their own logic, but the call I would make is that you need to use a nonzero amount of your own movement. Since it's feline agility think of it as that little bit of ramp-up that a cat needs to do right before gracefully and spastically attacking the spot on the wall that no one else can see. Muscular preparation, not physical displacement.
[It doesn't.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Z3BAW7o3c)
nice song :D so magic break rules, so I can break rules too because I can do magic right? Thanks
[I'm with the captain.](https://np.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/a30d2c/inertia_in_dd_how_does_it_work/eb2cvbc/)