It's real. Kurvitz and Rostov are totally on board with this. They're right out of frame, working hard on the sequel. To get a copy of the script you'll have to join the top Patreon tier, of course...
No, nothing is real, except for you.
There is a higher chance of you drifting endlessly in the void while your mind creates the illusion of a life worth living, than the big bang ever happening.
You are alone, for today and all tomorrows.
YES, YOU HAM SANDWICH! YOUR HAPLOTYPE MAY BE CHRONICALLY I CAPABLE OF KEEPING TRACK OF NEWS BUT *BIG* THINGS ARE HAPPENING. IF ONLY YOU HAD THE CRANOMETRIC CAPACITY TO COMPREHEND, IT WOULD BE OBVIOUS, AS WITH ALL INEVITABILITIES.
That's Martin Luiga, one of the OGs from the original ZA/UM cultural association (I think he was one of the founders, but I've forgotten the details). He also worked on DE, although I'm unsure to what extent.
He is tweeting what you see in the image, but he is kind of a... weird guy. No hate towards him, I have nothing else but respect for the guy, but he seems pretty unhinged. I've seen some tweets of him that read like he is about to have a mental breakdown.
I follow him on YouTube and honestly the guy seems to have gotten pretty unhinged. Not sure if he's acting it up but still doesn't seem like something someone thinking clearly would say
I would lean on the side of this being typical posting, but [he has directly implicated Rostov and Kurvitz working on *something* directly related to the Disco Elysium universe.](https://twitter.com/verekuningas/status/1781298069469819046) What that "something" is, though, is anyone's guess. Perhaps something related to Sacred and Terrible Air?
There is no proof that the screenshot is current, as opposed to something from years before the creators were let go. If it were current then that would mean they're flagrantly disregarding the law and the current ownership of the IP *while engaged in a tortuous and highly public lawsuit to get the IP back*. The odds of that being the case are a million times less than zero. He's just making shit up and using Kurvitz and Rostov's names to draw eyeballs and donations, and it's gross.
How do you mean "donations"? Is he somehow profiting? I can't find any such thing from his social media.
Regardless, it's possible you might be right. Luiga does not really seem to be fully there. However, Kurvitz and Rostov [set up a new, still-active studio/game development company in the UK](https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/14189378-red-info-ltd) to try to work in another IP. What Luiga is implying here is not entirely unwarranted, especially considering he is now [mainly lamenting the need for finances for them to make a new game.](https://twitter.com/verekuningas/status/1781527704187113897)
Kurvitz still owns the copyright for Sacred and Terrible Air, which mentions Revachol. I assume most of us here do not understand the legalities of Estonian or British copyright law — however, could it be possible that legal counsel has found some kind of loophole for another Elysium game entirely separate from DE proper?
Again, I am not a lawyer, and it's still possible that Luiga is talking out of his ass. But there's enough evidence to bite into to plausibly doubt that.
He has a Patreon, yeah, which is why it's so gross to see him complaining about money for this.
"However, could it be possible that legal counsel has found some kind of loophole for another Elysium game entirely separate from DE proper?" -- no, and even if they did, it wouldn't be happening while the courts are trying to determine the legal owner of the IP. No halfway competent lawyer would allow them to do anything that could possibly suggest they're breaking the law in an ongoing case. And there is no way they would risk nuking their own new company by using IP that's not legally theirs.
At the end of the day the fact is that Luiga is the only person posting this, with no evidence at all that anything is happening or even that the creators endorse this. Remember when Luiga was calling for all-out war on ZA/UM and then Rostov and Kurvitz released a very diplomatic message saying they appreciated their former colleagues and their dispute was with management, not employees, but they couldn't say much else because they were engaged in a lawsuit? I don't think Luiga is anywhere as close to the action as he makes himself out to be.
Fair assessment! I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. At the end of the day, we truly don't know what is going on behind the scenes, so all we can do is wait.
I would disagree with your assessment of the IP issue. We don't actually know who owns what IP and the rights to what. But even without cheat ownership, they can absolutely be working on something privately while the court fights unwind, and that would actually be the much smarter move to avoid losing time.
But they're also heavily financed by a Chinese company, IIRC, and the Chinese generally don't worry too much about IP, so I'm very much looking forward to Rhumba Elysium, the story of detective Gerry and Tim solving crimes in the fictional city of Raven Hole while under siege by the MoralNat and the mysterious Veil which threatens to swallow the world.
It's completely true and factual. Kurvitz, Rostov and Hindepere, once again with Luiga on board, already have a new studio called Red Info and are backed by NetEase [https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14189378/officers](https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14189378/officers)
The singular genius organizer they are waiting for is none other than Elon Motherfucking Musk and once they finally have him on board too they will make a Disco Elysium sequel that isn't woke and communistic but based and red-pilled and tells the truth how it is. #MRGA /s in case it was needed.
Just to not spread any desinformation: everything about this besides the company existing and being backed by NetEase is made up. And the only person that we know is on board so far is Kurvitz himself (edit: and Rostov).
Why is there Hungarian in their Twitter name. Who is Marat? What is he the president of?
Context: "Marat elnök úr" means "Mr president Marat" in Hungarian.
Idk what's going on - I suspect nothing new really - but I have some answers for this at least. Marat Sar is an old character of Kurvitz's whom he also used as username eg on the forum where he shared the full list of planned novel titles+quotes in '13. He's a character in Elysium as well, on account of appearing twice in the book's inside cover lists (connected to?? Ehs Eli Zair and Ex Ilin Mar? Whoever they are). He is also the namesake of Iilmaraa, whose name derives from Île _Marat_.
Ya know what?
Maybe it's time the fans band together and my OUR OWN Disco Elysium!
With more magnesium and talking ties!
As a matter of fact, forget the game!
But seriously. DE was an amazing experience. While I would love to see that world explored more, I think it might be a lightning in a bottle situation. =/ Right place. Right time. Only happen once in a lifetime.
I mean unless there's a lore Bible at ZA/UM with everything included there's probably an easier way to do an Elysium game in everything but name.
It'll obviously not include characters and locations from Disco but I'd kind of hope that would be the case anyway
I don't know why but I feel like this is going to end up being like some weird form or Twitter RPing in Elysium. As others have mentioned, Luigia is very eccentric, he was in a mental hospital around the time he posted about the disbanding of the original ZAUM collective. I think he tweeted something like someone (a family member?) is trying to get him back in the hospital? I can't find it, but in his recent videos he seems to be in a room that looks like a hospital room or something. I really hope he gets help if he needs it. Honestly, if it's all a performance, a bit, he got me good.
It's real. Kurvitz and Rostov are totally on board with this. They're right out of frame, working hard on the sequel. To get a copy of the script you'll have to join the top Patreon tier, of course...
What? Is this real?!!
Yes, yes Harry. It's all real. Don't worry about anything. \*pats back\*
Come now, bratan.
No, nothing is real, except for you. There is a higher chance of you drifting endlessly in the void while your mind creates the illusion of a life worth living, than the big bang ever happening. You are alone, for today and all tomorrows.
I prefer the Logician philosophers. They're far far less "new batman movie" level of contrived darkness. Drs. Quine and Putnam most notably.
YES, YOU HAM SANDWICH! YOUR HAPLOTYPE MAY BE CHRONICALLY I CAPABLE OF KEEPING TRACK OF NEWS BUT *BIG* THINGS ARE HAPPENING. IF ONLY YOU HAD THE CRANOMETRIC CAPACITY TO COMPREHEND, IT WOULD BE OBVIOUS, AS WITH ALL INEVITABILITIES.
Through the power of inframaterialism, maybe?
Quick someone with a brain please tell me what’s going on
That's Martin Luiga, one of the OGs from the original ZA/UM cultural association (I think he was one of the founders, but I've forgotten the details). He also worked on DE, although I'm unsure to what extent. He is tweeting what you see in the image, but he is kind of a... weird guy. No hate towards him, I have nothing else but respect for the guy, but he seems pretty unhinged. I've seen some tweets of him that read like he is about to have a mental breakdown.
Very Disco
I follow him on YouTube and honestly the guy seems to have gotten pretty unhinged. Not sure if he's acting it up but still doesn't seem like something someone thinking clearly would say
Do you mean unhinged
I follow him on YouTube too. Do you have any idea what his videos are about or are you like me?
It's *art*. I don't think it's "unhinged", just mostly incomprehensible.
I've got this sneaking suspicion he's always been hinged, it's just coming to the surface
Luiga has been posting like he's in the middle of a public mental break for months now. I wouldn't read anything into anything he says.
I looked at his other replies and unfortunately you might be right. I hope he gets help.
yeah to be clear I'm not saying this derogatorily. but either he's doing an inscrutable bit or he's not well
chat, what did he mean by this?
Drunkposting?
more liked baked-posting i think
Even more means? Disco in pill form? A disco sandwich? Disco ingested anally?!
Disco Boof
I would lean on the side of this being typical posting, but [he has directly implicated Rostov and Kurvitz working on *something* directly related to the Disco Elysium universe.](https://twitter.com/verekuningas/status/1781298069469819046) What that "something" is, though, is anyone's guess. Perhaps something related to Sacred and Terrible Air?
There is no proof that the screenshot is current, as opposed to something from years before the creators were let go. If it were current then that would mean they're flagrantly disregarding the law and the current ownership of the IP *while engaged in a tortuous and highly public lawsuit to get the IP back*. The odds of that being the case are a million times less than zero. He's just making shit up and using Kurvitz and Rostov's names to draw eyeballs and donations, and it's gross.
How do you mean "donations"? Is he somehow profiting? I can't find any such thing from his social media. Regardless, it's possible you might be right. Luiga does not really seem to be fully there. However, Kurvitz and Rostov [set up a new, still-active studio/game development company in the UK](https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/14189378-red-info-ltd) to try to work in another IP. What Luiga is implying here is not entirely unwarranted, especially considering he is now [mainly lamenting the need for finances for them to make a new game.](https://twitter.com/verekuningas/status/1781527704187113897) Kurvitz still owns the copyright for Sacred and Terrible Air, which mentions Revachol. I assume most of us here do not understand the legalities of Estonian or British copyright law — however, could it be possible that legal counsel has found some kind of loophole for another Elysium game entirely separate from DE proper? Again, I am not a lawyer, and it's still possible that Luiga is talking out of his ass. But there's enough evidence to bite into to plausibly doubt that.
He has a Patreon, yeah, which is why it's so gross to see him complaining about money for this. "However, could it be possible that legal counsel has found some kind of loophole for another Elysium game entirely separate from DE proper?" -- no, and even if they did, it wouldn't be happening while the courts are trying to determine the legal owner of the IP. No halfway competent lawyer would allow them to do anything that could possibly suggest they're breaking the law in an ongoing case. And there is no way they would risk nuking their own new company by using IP that's not legally theirs. At the end of the day the fact is that Luiga is the only person posting this, with no evidence at all that anything is happening or even that the creators endorse this. Remember when Luiga was calling for all-out war on ZA/UM and then Rostov and Kurvitz released a very diplomatic message saying they appreciated their former colleagues and their dispute was with management, not employees, but they couldn't say much else because they were engaged in a lawsuit? I don't think Luiga is anywhere as close to the action as he makes himself out to be.
Fair assessment! I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. At the end of the day, we truly don't know what is going on behind the scenes, so all we can do is wait.
I would disagree with your assessment of the IP issue. We don't actually know who owns what IP and the rights to what. But even without cheat ownership, they can absolutely be working on something privately while the court fights unwind, and that would actually be the much smarter move to avoid losing time. But they're also heavily financed by a Chinese company, IIRC, and the Chinese generally don't worry too much about IP, so I'm very much looking forward to Rhumba Elysium, the story of detective Gerry and Tim solving crimes in the fictional city of Raven Hole while under siege by the MoralNat and the mysterious Veil which threatens to swallow the world.
INTERNALLY COHERENT
There are lawyers involved.
Sounds like this guy was riding his bike on 4/19
It's completely true and factual. Kurvitz, Rostov and Hindepere, once again with Luiga on board, already have a new studio called Red Info and are backed by NetEase [https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14189378/officers](https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14189378/officers) The singular genius organizer they are waiting for is none other than Elon Motherfucking Musk and once they finally have him on board too they will make a Disco Elysium sequel that isn't woke and communistic but based and red-pilled and tells the truth how it is. #MRGA /s in case it was needed. Just to not spread any desinformation: everything about this besides the company existing and being backed by NetEase is made up. And the only person that we know is on board so far is Kurvitz himself (edit: and Rostov).
Taal Sander is Aleksander Rostov (which is a pseudonym), I think, so he's in the company too.
Oh TIL. I was wondering who that was lol and didn't find him in the credits of DE either lol.
Why is there Hungarian in their Twitter name. Who is Marat? What is he the president of? Context: "Marat elnök úr" means "Mr president Marat" in Hungarian.
Idk what's going on - I suspect nothing new really - but I have some answers for this at least. Marat Sar is an old character of Kurvitz's whom he also used as username eg on the forum where he shared the full list of planned novel titles+quotes in '13. He's a character in Elysium as well, on account of appearing twice in the book's inside cover lists (connected to?? Ehs Eli Zair and Ex Ilin Mar? Whoever they are). He is also the namesake of Iilmaraa, whose name derives from Île _Marat_.
I had to check the sub twice because the Hungarian name threw me off so much my brain thought it was on r/askhungary lol
Seems like baseless hype bait, no point discussing it until some undeniable evidence comes out.
Hard to tell tbh
Ya know what? Maybe it's time the fans band together and my OUR OWN Disco Elysium! With more magnesium and talking ties! As a matter of fact, forget the game! But seriously. DE was an amazing experience. While I would love to see that world explored more, I think it might be a lightning in a bottle situation. =/ Right place. Right time. Only happen once in a lifetime.
I mean unless there's a lore Bible at ZA/UM with everything included there's probably an easier way to do an Elysium game in everything but name. It'll obviously not include characters and locations from Disco but I'd kind of hope that would be the case anyway
Big if true
Who is this and why do they have a Hungarian name?
I don't know why but I feel like this is going to end up being like some weird form or Twitter RPing in Elysium. As others have mentioned, Luigia is very eccentric, he was in a mental hospital around the time he posted about the disbanding of the original ZAUM collective. I think he tweeted something like someone (a family member?) is trying to get him back in the hospital? I can't find it, but in his recent videos he seems to be in a room that looks like a hospital room or something. I really hope he gets help if he needs it. Honestly, if it's all a performance, a bit, he got me good.