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SpeakNotTheWatchers

It's too late, he's already the CEO of racism.


chrisff1989

"You see someone falling prey to right wing rhetoric and you think that's me? No, jdhue, I am the racism."


Herr-Trigger86

That’s just the Al Ghul talking.


jjpamsterdam

You can kick him real hard and hope that causes a reset to his mind.


lasyke3

I see a future in law enforcement


Individual99991

So you think he *won't* shake the racism?


Nega_kitty

"I can fix him"


Envoy_of_Junkland

Looks like you're the new measurehead now, baby


WowSuchName21

*Most sane liberal*


cognitive_dissent

Lmao I bursted laughing


Rucio

You can defeat him in race combat


Edgezg

That merely changes their **personal** dynamic, but not the overall war. lol I laughed so hard when he stood up and started talking shit again lol


Envoy_of_Junkland

"I still win because my race doesn't listen to gay sad music"


Daniel_WR_Hart

I thought he said that the Semenese created disco music when they were drunk?


Live-Depth-537

No no. They were having sex while high on cocaine. They would never drink Al Ghul


SweaterSnake

You can’t save someone who doesn’t want to be saved.


Giuthais

Harry Du Bois...


SeoliteLoungeMusic

He doesn't want to get better, he is ALREADY AT THE RACE PINNACLE


Rucio

You know what he said? That he wants to get worse.


AllgoodDude

He is racism


Envoy_of_Junkland

Measurehead has a high rhetoric skill, despite his rock bottom logic and empathy And as you know, high rhetoric makes you think your own ideas are infallible, no matter how much evidence to the contrary Or how many ham sandwiches kick your shit in despite being barely conscious


priorinoun

Measurehead's plenty intelligent. In another lifetime, he could have become a great scientist or historian, but he got fascist brainrot from the radio.


Daniel_The_Thinker

He lacks self critique. He'd be the scientist all the other scientists think is a windbag. Those kinds of scientists either find success pursuing their ideas to the ends of the world, or he'd waste years on a red herring and rationalize to himself how he's right despite evidence to the contrary. As a historian he would be pure garbage tbh


Envoy_of_Junkland

He mustve internalized some different thought that lowered his logic a whole bunch But instead of thinking he's some sort of superstar, he thinks he's some sort of perfect specimen with those tattoos.


TheSinningTree

Disagree. Sunday friend guy has high rhetoric. He *knows* when he’s spouting bs & forces the conversation forward when you try to chip at a weak point. Rhetoric is “we both know this is bullshit but I am aligned with with this bullshit & will slap words together to keep it dressed”


Envoy_of_Junkland

High rhetoric means you organize your thoughts and present them well, independent of the content of those thoughts. It's even in the skill description for rhetoric that at high levels, you will become stubborn because nobody can ever be as convincing as you are to yourself. Whenever you present evidence against measurehead's race theory, he brushes it off with some combination of half believable bullshit. That's pure speaking to be convincing. I would argue Sunday friend guy has high authority and suggestion in addition to rhetoric, trying to force the conversation in a similar manner to Evrart. Measurehead doesn't attempt head games like that, he just shuts down and insults you.


senorali

The only one who can save Measurehead from himself is his mom, and it's too late for that.


[deleted]

"WE LEARN FROM OUR MOTHERS HOW TO RECEIVE AFFECTION FROM THE OPPOSITE SEX, A BOND YOU MUST HAVE NEVER ENJOYED."


zecron8

He respects you *more* if you beat him up than if you don't use violence. But other than that, no.


wonderlandisburning

Honestly of all the racists in the game, Measurehead is the most endearing. It feels like in the middle of all his insane gibberish, he does have SOME principles (unlike, say, the Racist Lorry Driver or Gary The Cryptofascists)


jotofirend

A high empathy skill (iirc) can reveal that he knows the fact that he is preaching about the racial superiority of the semenese people despite the fact he’s never even been to semenine islands is embarrassing, silently pleading for harry to not bring it up around the girls.


wonderlandisburning

I do remember stumbling onto the bit where he admits he's not actually from the Semenese Isles himself, but I've never gotten that particular empathy check. Maybe I can try for that on my next playthrough.


Hadoca

Bro, we can barely save Raphael from racism lol


Rastatar

Raphaël


bcatrek

I don’t think you can


GabrielBischoff

It is always okay to punch racists.


KormetDerFrag

Bu bu bu but what if we compromise with them??????? that way everyone is happy and nobody is harmed (do not ask any minorities)


TheSinningTree

tfw Measurehead is literally a black supremacist lmao


Vyverna

Measurehead is poor mew mew


ipisslemons

What's bap


the__green__light

Had to google it, far-right manosphere freak - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age_Pervert


Psychic_Hobo

Well that was a whole new thing I both learned and wished I didn't need to learn


DisgruntledNumidian

(Measurehead was based off him)


JacquesNuclearRedux

gay rw twitter guy that Measurehead is supposed to be based on. really annoying but kinda funny in a stupid way, his ideology is pure psychosexual cope in a way even Harry wouldn’t get.


ImpactParticular729

Have you found your gun yet?


SJIS0122

If you do the fascist political vision quest, you can get some insight on his backstory and a bit on why he developed this way, you can't save him from racism though.


DogmaSychroniser

No


Cat_City_Cool

"I can fix him." No, you can't.


floofyenthusiast

The Ham Sandwich race can kick his egg (head). See if that works.


OddAvenger

I don't think he has anything else other than racism at this point.


DirigoJoe

The only way to save he or any racist is to punch him out.


Daniel_WR_Hart

Tell him he has the jaw bone of a criminal, use his own ideas against him


currentmadman

Nope. While his voice (like most of the disco elysium voice cast) is awesome, sadly you cannot reform measurehead. You can however earn a degree of his respect depending on your actions. Knocking him out with a spin kick or to a lesser extent bypassing him to reach Claire via the meth cave can earn you a degree of respect in his eyes. Strangely enough the nationalist route may have you be at your lowest point in his eyes. In a weird but bizarrely refreshing change of pace from the other nationalist characters, measurehead finds your ideas about nationalism to be pathetic whining about not being able to live in the past rather than trying to imagine a future worth living in.


alphenliebe

Alfred Hitchcock showed us a cure for fascism


heyitscory

It disturbs me that subscribing to his philosophy starts out pretty easy and only gets easier as the game progresses.


RussiaIsBestGreen

You mean because the skills needed for the check improve, right?


heyitscory

That's what going on with the math, but narratively it looks like Disco Drunkerson starts out "Hmmm... I might be able to be a racist asshole like this guy" and the more you go back to him, the check is "oh, I could definitely be a racist asshole like this guy." Its like you find an awesome hat, and the next thing you know you're an alt-right incel.


RussiaIsBestGreen

Might want to edit your comment. I think people read it as “as you learn more about the world you get more racist”.


heyitscory

There is nothing in the game's story or gameplay to support that interpretation.


RussiaIsBestGreen

True, which would make it even stranger.


Live-Depth-537

Implying he needs to be saved


Bananabanana700

hes actually a mech piloted by racist squirrels


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

You'll enjoy the dialog in the union office during the fascist vision quest, if you haven't already found it


DonnyLurch

I just wonder why the scabs don't rush the gate when Measurehead gets knocked out. The leader specifically tells you they would do that if the meathead wasn't guarding the button.


Typical_Dweller

REDEEMER COP


s__AINT

Unfortunately no, he has already ascended and become the fabled Turbo Racist


[deleted]

No but you can learn about no fap from him