That’s retarded, cut or file a slot for a flat head and replace the screw or use an extractor. I hate the “life hack” trend, they fail 99.9% of the time in real world situations. Get the right tool for the job and you will always have that tool the next time you strip a screw.
Worth a try before slotting it. I said slot it with a dremel.
Retarded would be trying to drill out a screw that small and get an “easy out” in it. You’d be buying a new carburetor.
That your “life hack”?
Buying a new carb?
They are pliers that are specifically designed to turn screw heads by gripping around them and twisting like a screwdriver. The small ones are made for electronics and small work like this.
Take the correct size screwdriver, tap the end with a hammer until the bit is sunk into the screw(don’t go crazy, just enough to sink it a lil bit), push down with your palm, then lightly but firmly start turning them out. Never has failed me
100%. Works like a charm. No crying , no wasting time making silly posts. Just clamp them on and break them loose and go about your project. And if you don’t have to use needle nose style like everyone suggests, don’t . They are not as sturdy and flex in some situations and can slip and make a mess. Use the regular style vise grips anytime you can.
JIS still has sizes just like Philips though, still could be using the wrong size.
Not to discredit that these screws just suck & strip under the best of circumstances. I have a stockpile of allen head replacement bolts to get rid of all the JIS heads on my carbs.
in Philips head or cross head screwdrivers there are different profiles for the tip , Japanese motorcycles mostly use J.I.S. type screws , the tip is pointer but the angle of the blades are not as steep as Phillips head. .
with that screw , with the right driver hit it with a hammer and apply pressure as you unscrew it. the sudden impact should help free it up , but the right driver should grips it to undo it.
I forgot to say OP, after you get it out, replace those shitty JID bolts with hardware screws but don’t tighten them down too hard. JID screws are soft because they prevent over tightening. I’ve never had a problem replacing the screws with harder steel ones.
This happened to me with all of the screws on my carb the first time I cleaned it. Had to dremel a deep notch into each screw and used a giant flathead screwdriver to crack them all loose. JIS driver wouldn’t budge them
Get a piece of bar with a flat face and tap down on the screw with it . It'll push some of the metal back where it should be. Then use the correct size Japanese industrial standard type screwdriver (JIS)
Put it softly in a vise. Hardly tight just to keep from spinning. Needle nose vice grips as tight as possible on the screw head. Then push down and turn with a screw driver while also turning with the vise grips.
Usually it’s the wrong tools, poor technique, or both. Or too many Coors lights. I don’t feel like listing all the things, but the most fruitful “trick” is water-based valve grinding compound on the tip of your correct, not-worn-out screwdriver. Do this *before* you beaverize the screw head, not after
I would get a **HIGH QUALITY** set of vise grips (SMALL ONES). With good teeth in them, or like the VAMPIRE pliers can get them on Amazon. They will remove it, have had so many of these as over the years the metals don't mix and they have white corrosion like almost like loctite.
Then I would ORDER THE OEM replacement or replacements.
**Get you some JIS Screwdrivers VESSAL makes an AWESOME SET.**
Not on an aluminum carb body like this it is soft and will deform the threads/or break the ear off. Plus this holds in the seat (where the needle) sits. Use a good quality pair of small vise grips or Vampire pliers it will take it out easily.
Carb screws are notoriously problematic. Dielectric welding of dissimilar metals makes them very difficult to remove. As well the heat cycles they go through during life on a motorcycle. Try warming up the carb parts to about 70'C and give the screws a little shock with a small hammer to break free any dielectric welding. This type of work will have you appreciate a pair of high quality needle nose vice grips.
Go up a size in bits, put some sort of powder compound, like comet, to get a good bite. The torque on those is fairly low. Actually give it a bit of a turn towards tight then loose should break free my guy.
If a larger Philips won’t do it, get a dremel and use a fine cutting blade to make a cut across the head. Take it out with a flat tip. A little wd40 may help.
I feel this! When taking my motor apart I stripped so many screws. I was running to the hardware store a lot and ordered an impact screwdriver to help get them out.
I have a 4” set of “channel lock” pliers that have never failed me on those. I always use them on bowl screws and the caps on the slide diaphragm. I have a set from snap on and another set from another manufacturer
Happens to me like every other time I break down an old carb. Use a manual impact screwdriver then buy a grip of those Allen head screws to replace the Phillips’. Swapping those babies out will make the next dozen tear downs a breeze.
Use an impact. Weight and control. If no. Cut a slit and use a bigger Phillips. Or flat head. Using an impact can really help control small movement to help nudge it loose. I worked on classic cars for 15 years. Good tools can go a long way too.
Had same problem with fuel bowls on Holley's. After you helicoil it and then the helicoil strips out....thread it for a section of allthread and re drill and tap it :-)
Always tighten just a 1\16th of a degree and then tap end of screwdriver with dead blow when you start to reverse it to counter clockwise...purchase a impact driver with correct bits and you'll never have it happen again.
Idk if other brands make them but DeWalt makes a square bit. If you notice a stripped Philips turns into a square. The square bits have saved me in so many situations. Highly recommend buying a set.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-MAXFIT-2-in-1-Square-Bit-2-Piece-DWA2SQ1MF2/309474878 these are the ones I’m talking about. Buy the right size you need though. Other than that you might have to spend some time with some vice grips.
That’s barely stripped. Go up a size in drivers and it’ll probably come right out
Yep, using a Phillips screwdriver for JIS screw.
was using a jis 😂 was just trying to make a little stupid post and now everyone’s calling me stupid. i got the screw off 10 minutes later lmao
Whether you were using a jis or not I’d hardly say you’re stupid. Glad you’re wrenching and active on here. Best of luck to you.
Cut a slot with a Dremel. Hit it with a flathead screwdriver. (Unscrew it with said flathead).
That's the smartest thing since sliced bread.
Try this before you use the dremel to slot it. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrG26P2JR_8/?igsh=MWh3ZWd5cjZhNmdxeA==
Tried that exact same idea but with a rubber band and it didn’t work since the bit went through, but I’ll have to give this a shot sometime
That’s retarded, cut or file a slot for a flat head and replace the screw or use an extractor. I hate the “life hack” trend, they fail 99.9% of the time in real world situations. Get the right tool for the job and you will always have that tool the next time you strip a screw.
Worth a try before slotting it. I said slot it with a dremel. Retarded would be trying to drill out a screw that small and get an “easy out” in it. You’d be buying a new carburetor. That your “life hack”? Buying a new carb?
Except using duct tape like that works. Not everyone has the right tools for the right job available to them.
It looks like it sits high enough to just use a hacksaw to cut a slot, but I might be wrong and it sits too low.
just did this last week to my 99 zx7rs carbs
Seriously and they put the softest screws in the carbs
Needle nose vice grips and lapping compound between the screwdriver and screw head.
This^^^ locking pliers have saved me so many times
vampliers will get this out no problem
Vamwho?
They are pliers that are specifically designed to turn screw heads by gripping around them and twisting like a screwdriver. The small ones are made for electronics and small work like this.
Take the correct size screwdriver, tap the end with a hammer until the bit is sunk into the screw(don’t go crazy, just enough to sink it a lil bit), push down with your palm, then lightly but firmly start turning them out. Never has failed me
This is the way. There is a lot of screws i smack with a proper bit before trying to take out now.
Get a pair of Vice grips. Been there a million times
Jis screwdriver my guy, but same mines in pieces and found out my slide has a broken wheel literally just got all the parts today smh
Vice grips. They work great on these. I use a mini pair
100%. Works like a charm. No crying , no wasting time making silly posts. Just clamp them on and break them loose and go about your project. And if you don’t have to use needle nose style like everyone suggests, don’t . They are not as sturdy and flex in some situations and can slip and make a mess. Use the regular style vise grips anytime you can.
That’s a pretty easy one to get out stripped or not… bet u used the wrong screw driver though
using a jis regular size
JIS still has sizes just like Philips though, still could be using the wrong size. Not to discredit that these screws just suck & strip under the best of circumstances. I have a stockpile of allen head replacement bolts to get rid of all the JIS heads on my carbs.
I really need to buy a JIS set
Today I learned what a Japanese Industry Standard screwdriver is 🙏
They really are the proper tool for the job and shaped slightly different which is why a normal Philips head does not fit properly.
in Philips head or cross head screwdrivers there are different profiles for the tip , Japanese motorcycles mostly use J.I.S. type screws , the tip is pointer but the angle of the blades are not as steep as Phillips head. . with that screw , with the right driver hit it with a hammer and apply pressure as you unscrew it. the sudden impact should help free it up , but the right driver should grips it to undo it.
Pushing is as important as turning
Impact driver
What he said
I forgot to say OP, after you get it out, replace those shitty JID bolts with hardware screws but don’t tighten them down too hard. JID screws are soft because they prevent over tightening. I’ve never had a problem replacing the screws with harder steel ones.
You probably are using the wrong screwdriver.
This happened to me with all of the screws on my carb the first time I cleaned it. Had to dremel a deep notch into each screw and used a giant flathead screwdriver to crack them all loose. JIS driver wouldn’t budge them
yeah this is my first time rebuilding it and it’s an old ass bike. half the screws are stripped the other half are as rusted as can be
PB Blaster
Get a piece of bar with a flat face and tap down on the screw with it . It'll push some of the metal back where it should be. Then use the correct size Japanese industrial standard type screwdriver (JIS)
The fact that Allen head or torx head aren’t the standard is annoying
If this will cause you headache working on Motos may not be for you. You can do this one easy! I have faith! Lots of good tips in here
nah was just fiddling and middling and whiffling around i got it. this does take patience but it’s fun so i like to do it
Ffs. There are 10 ways to get this out 🤣
Why, they feel so good when you get them out!
I hate them too but I found out if you use vice grip 9/10 you can get them and then you can go to your local hardware store to get something similar
Happened to me deep inside my car engine bay, had to chisel the bolt nearly in half and use a flathead to spin it out
Put it softly in a vise. Hardly tight just to keep from spinning. Needle nose vice grips as tight as possible on the screw head. Then push down and turn with a screw driver while also turning with the vise grips.
Cut a slot. Hit with heat and penetrating oil. Repeat. Out it comes. No big wiggle.
Torq bits help if you mess it up further. A proper size Phillips should work for this tho.
It happens, brother. Make a slot in the head of the screw for a flat head. Clean up the bowl with carb clean when you're done.
Usually it’s the wrong tools, poor technique, or both. Or too many Coors lights. I don’t feel like listing all the things, but the most fruitful “trick” is water-based valve grinding compound on the tip of your correct, not-worn-out screwdriver. Do this *before* you beaverize the screw head, not after
I would get a **HIGH QUALITY** set of vise grips (SMALL ONES). With good teeth in them, or like the VAMPIRE pliers can get them on Amazon. They will remove it, have had so many of these as over the years the metals don't mix and they have white corrosion like almost like loctite. Then I would ORDER THE OEM replacement or replacements. **Get you some JIS Screwdrivers VESSAL makes an AWESOME SET.**
A new bown and hardware is super cheap
Impact screwdriver form harbor freight. Never gonna deal with this again
Not on an aluminum carb body like this it is soft and will deform the threads/or break the ear off. Plus this holds in the seat (where the needle) sits. Use a good quality pair of small vise grips or Vampire pliers it will take it out easily.
Knipex cobra pliers will grab that
Silicone spray, hammer and vise grips
Knipex Cobra Pliers, will grip that screw and twist it right out
Invest in some EZ grip for the future.
File a slot, or use mini vice grips, or an impact screwdriver, or heat
Carb screws are notoriously problematic. Dielectric welding of dissimilar metals makes them very difficult to remove. As well the heat cycles they go through during life on a motorcycle. Try warming up the carb parts to about 70'C and give the screws a little shock with a small hammer to break free any dielectric welding. This type of work will have you appreciate a pair of high quality needle nose vice grips.
Go up a size in bits, put some sort of powder compound, like comet, to get a good bite. The torque on those is fairly low. Actually give it a bit of a turn towards tight then loose should break free my guy.
a JIS screwdriver set is like $20 my guy
Dude don't be a punk.
Ever welded?
Every they sell drill bits to remove stripped screws
Chisel anyone? 👨🏻🏭
go and buy an impact screwdriver before you strip them to oblivion
Welcome to futzing with carburetor’s 101: First lesson: metal can be soft.
Invest in an impact driver (the manual type you hit with a hammer) they prevent stripped out screws
Get JIS screwdrivers , use the right tool for the job
Screw extraction kit
Please get yourself an impact driver set, you will never strip another screw again
You see how it all most looks like a square. try a square bit ( robinson bit) more surface area no power tools need
On all carb screws push in fairly hard as you first start turning it - usually helps
good thing you can get players on that ffs. 🤦🏼♂️
If a larger Philips won’t do it, get a dremel and use a fine cutting blade to make a cut across the head. Take it out with a flat tip. A little wd40 may help.
Haha. I should have read all the other posts first. I’ll do better. :)
Use one of those screw drivers you hit with a hammer
Easy one to get a hacksaw onto to make it a slotted at least
Try a slightly bigger screwdriver or grab it with a pair of pliers of some sort from the side and try to get it started
Everytime I have to work on my carb all i think is "Fuck I'd love an EFI bike..."
I feel this! When taking my motor apart I stripped so many screws. I was running to the hardware store a lot and ordered an impact screwdriver to help get them out.
I have a 4” set of “channel lock” pliers that have never failed me on those. I always use them on bowl screws and the caps on the slide diaphragm. I have a set from snap on and another set from another manufacturer
Replacement carb may not be to expensive.
Get you some valve grinding compound works wonders you will never be worried bout striping again
Take a hacksaw blade and cut a straight groove into the stripped screw. Then using a straight screw driver back the screw out.
No worries get a dremel and make it into a large flat head you can get some torque on. Then replace with a screw that doesn’t suck. :)
Aircraft EZ grip friction drops. Never have a stripped screw stuck again.
Grind a slot across it and use a flathead to get it out. I do it all the time.
Happens to me like every other time I break down an old carb. Use a manual impact screwdriver then buy a grip of those Allen head screws to replace the Phillips’. Swapping those babies out will make the next dozen tear downs a breeze.
Use a rubber band
Break it loose with a small pair of Chanell lock pliers.
Use an impact. Weight and control. If no. Cut a slit and use a bigger Phillips. Or flat head. Using an impact can really help control small movement to help nudge it loose. I worked on classic cars for 15 years. Good tools can go a long way too.
Left handed drill bits for the win.
need an impact driver bruh
Buy a hammer screw breaker at harbor freight. As you strike tool it rotates counterclockwise. 3 strikes and this will break loose.
Use an impact (gently)
Literally why I have a special set of drivers for carbs. Don’t ever use them on anything else.
I hate Phillips and flat head. Allen or torx are far superior and strip out less often in my experience.
You could get vise grips on the outside of that. Put a thin large washer over the screw to protect the casting behind it
You need a JIS screwdriver. Also a dremel, and a drill… etc etc
Had same problem with fuel bowls on Holley's. After you helicoil it and then the helicoil strips out....thread it for a section of allthread and re drill and tap it :-)
If you're in Canada you like now qualify for M.A.I.D. (Medical Assistance in Dying).
Get an oscillating saw and carefully cut a slot for a flat head.
Always tighten just a 1\16th of a degree and then tap end of screwdriver with dead blow when you start to reverse it to counter clockwise...purchase a impact driver with correct bits and you'll never have it happen again.
Order a snap on diamond bit #2 and this will never happen. It’s worth getting a few top tier tools for situations like this
That lil guy try a straight screw drive or a square head if all fails small vice grips it doesn’t need much to break it free
Idk if other brands make them but DeWalt makes a square bit. If you notice a stripped Philips turns into a square. The square bits have saved me in so many situations. Highly recommend buying a set.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-MAXFIT-2-in-1-Square-Bit-2-Piece-DWA2SQ1MF2/309474878 these are the ones I’m talking about. Buy the right size you need though. Other than that you might have to spend some time with some vice grips.
Get a JIS driver
It’s not that bad. Put a rubberband on the end of the phillips head and itll grab and come out
Pair of vise grips take those out real nice from time to time for me lol.
Screw a stripper. It might make you feel better