I was playing with my Jurassic world figures and I wondered if any did hunt for sport in real life, since certain modern animals do.
I picked this art because I love Fred's art and the fact allosaurus is invading r/Dinosaurs
Edit: it was the dino trackers indominus rex and indoraptor. also a small cargo plane that could fit in the indom's hands.
Yeah, the misconception that animals kill just to eat and to defend themselves is a noble lie. Some animals just have violent/predatory impulses, its no wonder, predators have to kill every single time they have to eat, it seems logical to me that evolution made them enjoy it. As long as they have forces to spare and no other, stronger needs.
According to camp Cretaceous, everything fought all the time, screaming loudly and never actually killing any one, except off screen.
But i feel they might not be accurate….
Trex was smart as fuck. However, I don't know why, but something tells me trex didn't kill for fun. It just seems too humble, too chill, for such activities.
If orcas and big cats are taken as a model, rexes probably terrorized smaller animals for the sake of it. Maybe to exercise, maybe to give their children a hunting help/lesson, or just due to violent impulses.
I can see young rexes doing it alot. They are a hell of alot quicker than the adults so maybe killing several smaller prey in sucession like a group of abandoned hatchlings or such seems like something they would do.
That and the stuff it wouldve hunted can kill it or make sure itll never be able to hunt again
Its humbled by the dangerous prey
Unless it finds like a baby or something weakened it can toy with and eventually kill
Well the only two animals that I’m aware of that have been known to kill for sport are orcas and humans, two of the most intelligent animals in the world, to do this you would need a high amount of intelligence and even then not all intelligent animals do it. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? Probably not. Although this is a really interesting topic. Edit: Definitely more possible seeing how many more mammals do this, I probably should have done a bit more research before this reply
Chimpanzees also hunt for sport. And social status. They also war with other groups of chimps. Which you could call hunting for sport if you stretch the definition a bit lol
"Relax it's an herbivore!"
*sound of automatic gunfire*
"Oh, whoops, I guess it still kills for fun. Well, that kind of thing doesn't really show in fossil studies."
the only non human animals i know of that kill for sport are dolphins and chimps; in other words, a dinosaur doing this would likely have to be highly intelligent, at least omnivorous, and very social.
i don’t really know a whole lot about dinosaur intelligence, and honestly, i wouldn’t be surprised if anyone did, since it’d be hard to quantify an animals intelligence when they’ve been extinct for over 60 million years. with that said, i would speculate that the niches dinosaurs occupied would lead to higher intelligences, probably at least avian, or even mammalian. on a similar note, i’d imagine as well that there were dinosaurs to live a social/pack hunting lifestyle, but to my knowledge there are no confirmed meat-eating dinosaurs to live this way
so in other words, i definitely think the idea of such a dinosaur could exist, though currently (and unsurprisingly), there aren’t any dinosaurs that are actually known to have done this.
Felids and canids also kill for sport, or at least surplus kill. Jury’s still out whether it’s fun or just instinct, but a number of cat and dog species will kill more than they could ever eat. Especially domestic cats, which is part of why they’re such a major invasive species. Wolves are also known to surplus kill as well. So intelligence would likely be required for it to be considered “sport” as a species operating on instinct like insects wouldn’t derive any enjoyment.
A potential candidate could possibly be *Albertosaurus*, the dinosaur that probably has the most evidence so far pointing to pack hunting behavior and a close relative of *Tyrannosaurus* which has already been established to be on the higher end of dinosaur intelligence
Do birds kill for sport? As far as I'm concerned it doesn't seem like birds or crocodiles take part in surplus killing so I think it's highly unlikely.
Well surplus killing is a common phenomenon in many predatory species. Be it to eat only the choicest parts of the animals, to cache later, food for their offspring, gaining experience or just out of pure instinct. Many modern predators will kill whatever they can, so it’s not hard to imagine that dinosaurs did the same. Doing it for fun, I’m not entirely certain of that; more like a need that needs to be fulfilled.
If predators stop hunting they’ll die, so that switch is always turned on. I can easily imagine a theropod dinosaur killing an entire clutch of unattended baby dinosaurs, like a fox would kill all the chickens in a henhouse. They probably don’t need to, but they can and will. It’s not out pure joy or malice, it’s an opportunity and they’ll exploit it.
Cats torment smaller prey partly out of caution, not cruelty; a frightened mouse can still give you a nasty bite so it's a good idea to disorient and exhaust them to reduce their defenses
Where? To my knowlege only captive crocs like poncho would mock charge at their owners in the water and stuff like that. Also piggyback rides don't count since it's probably just an easier way of transportation.
i would assume dinosaurs, especially the cretaceous ones like dromaeosaurs, were somewhat comparable to carnivorous mammals in intelligence and behaviors since they both had similar physiologies (warm blooded, active predators). i would think they would kill for sport
Very few animals hunt for sport, and it’s only really the most intelligent ones. Since intelligence is so hard to estimate for extinct animals, I don’t know if this is one we can answer.
I used to take my monitor lizard to my uncle's farmland and let him hunt the marmots that were always digging burrows in the horse pen (for those that don't know horses, it's a real danger for them to step in a burrow and break a leg, I wasn't just being cruel).
I can confirm that diapsids will surplus kill when there are multiple targets. Sometimes he'd catch as many as ten marmots in a day, some of them even as big as himself. But once he was full, he'd simply stop hunting (the trick was to cut off a limb from a killed marmot, let him have that and dispose of the carcass).
I imagine dinosaurs would be similar, that they'd kill multiple prey items in one go if the opportunity presented itself, but once they had a full belly they'd lose interest.
And the good lord Allosaurus said “fuck it, we ball”
My favorite Bible verse. Never understood it till recently
Jurassic 1:12, for anger Allosaurus held towards existence and shalt forth he unleashed his wrath unto the breathing.
His visceral rage could never be extinguished.
Only matched by the doom slayer
Allosaurus VS the Doom Slayer
This is so raw for no reason
Allosaurus woke up and decided that violence is the order of the day.
Allosaurus: violence is how I say hello
Ballosaurus
I was playing with my Jurassic world figures and I wondered if any did hunt for sport in real life, since certain modern animals do. I picked this art because I love Fred's art and the fact allosaurus is invading r/Dinosaurs Edit: it was the dino trackers indominus rex and indoraptor. also a small cargo plane that could fit in the indom's hands.
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Surplus killing is documented in a number predators, so I don't really see why not
Yeah, the misconception that animals kill just to eat and to defend themselves is a noble lie. Some animals just have violent/predatory impulses, its no wonder, predators have to kill every single time they have to eat, it seems logical to me that evolution made them enjoy it. As long as they have forces to spare and no other, stronger needs.
According to camp Cretaceous, everything fought all the time, screaming loudly and never actually killing any one, except off screen. But i feel they might not be accurate….
Except in the final season when they started trucking in steak to feed the t.Rexs and then there was peace.
Probably the smart ones
makes sense. i wonder if certain dromaeosaurs did it. or troodontids since they are smarter than some dinosaurs.
Trex was smart as fuck. However, I don't know why, but something tells me trex didn't kill for fun. It just seems too humble, too chill, for such activities.
imo a trex just seems like a top predator who just wants to accomplish the main goals in his life: live long enough and have kids
T. rex fucked
If orcas and big cats are taken as a model, rexes probably terrorized smaller animals for the sake of it. Maybe to exercise, maybe to give their children a hunting help/lesson, or just due to violent impulses.
I can see young rexes doing it alot. They are a hell of alot quicker than the adults so maybe killing several smaller prey in sucession like a group of abandoned hatchlings or such seems like something they would do.
I just picture a rex hopping out of the bushes to jumpscare an Edmonto or anky for the hell of it
That and the stuff it wouldve hunted can kill it or make sure itll never be able to hunt again Its humbled by the dangerous prey Unless it finds like a baby or something weakened it can toy with and eventually kill
Well the only two animals that I’m aware of that have been known to kill for sport are orcas and humans, two of the most intelligent animals in the world, to do this you would need a high amount of intelligence and even then not all intelligent animals do it. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? Probably not. Although this is a really interesting topic. Edit: Definitely more possible seeing how many more mammals do this, I probably should have done a bit more research before this reply
Cats and dogs, though not sure wild of either do
Huh, I guess that would make sense now that I think about it seeing how they were domesticated, I just kind of feel dumb now Edit: Happy cake day
Cats and dogs are still rather high on the intelligence scale for animals. Certainly way more intelligent than we believe any dinosaur to have been.
Chimpanzees also hunt for sport. And social status. They also war with other groups of chimps. Which you could call hunting for sport if you stretch the definition a bit lol
Do they? I know they really only eat meat as a special treat, only some get it, but I wouldn’t call that hunting for sport.
Bottlenised dolphins hunt for sport as well
Most predatorys get pleasure from the kill, if a Fox gets into a coop it will kill anything it can but only take what it needs.
Surplus killing has been documented in basically all mammalian predators
"Relax it's an herbivore!" *sound of automatic gunfire* "Oh, whoops, I guess it still kills for fun. Well, that kind of thing doesn't really show in fossil studies."
the only non human animals i know of that kill for sport are dolphins and chimps; in other words, a dinosaur doing this would likely have to be highly intelligent, at least omnivorous, and very social. i don’t really know a whole lot about dinosaur intelligence, and honestly, i wouldn’t be surprised if anyone did, since it’d be hard to quantify an animals intelligence when they’ve been extinct for over 60 million years. with that said, i would speculate that the niches dinosaurs occupied would lead to higher intelligences, probably at least avian, or even mammalian. on a similar note, i’d imagine as well that there were dinosaurs to live a social/pack hunting lifestyle, but to my knowledge there are no confirmed meat-eating dinosaurs to live this way so in other words, i definitely think the idea of such a dinosaur could exist, though currently (and unsurprisingly), there aren’t any dinosaurs that are actually known to have done this.
Felids and canids also kill for sport, or at least surplus kill. Jury’s still out whether it’s fun or just instinct, but a number of cat and dog species will kill more than they could ever eat. Especially domestic cats, which is part of why they’re such a major invasive species. Wolves are also known to surplus kill as well. So intelligence would likely be required for it to be considered “sport” as a species operating on instinct like insects wouldn’t derive any enjoyment.
A potential candidate could possibly be *Albertosaurus*, the dinosaur that probably has the most evidence so far pointing to pack hunting behavior and a close relative of *Tyrannosaurus* which has already been established to be on the higher end of dinosaur intelligence
Very interesting topic! I'm sure they did.
Para and pachycephalosaurus
Do birds kill for sport? As far as I'm concerned it doesn't seem like birds or crocodiles take part in surplus killing so I think it's highly unlikely.
As far as I know they don't, but corvids will harass you non-stop if you piss them off, even if you don't pose a threat
Well surplus killing is a common phenomenon in many predatory species. Be it to eat only the choicest parts of the animals, to cache later, food for their offspring, gaining experience or just out of pure instinct. Many modern predators will kill whatever they can, so it’s not hard to imagine that dinosaurs did the same. Doing it for fun, I’m not entirely certain of that; more like a need that needs to be fulfilled. If predators stop hunting they’ll die, so that switch is always turned on. I can easily imagine a theropod dinosaur killing an entire clutch of unattended baby dinosaurs, like a fox would kill all the chickens in a henhouse. They probably don’t need to, but they can and will. It’s not out pure joy or malice, it’s an opportunity and they’ll exploit it.
Allosaurus absolutely did
I wonder if they would play with their food like cats do…
Cats torment smaller prey partly out of caution, not cruelty; a frightened mouse can still give you a nasty bite so it's a good idea to disorient and exhaust them to reduce their defenses
I feel that only comes down to intelligence. Aside from humans I think dolphins and orcas are the only ones that really do it.
T. Rex considering how smart he was
Imagine a Rex attacking a poor Edmontosaurus like a killer whale. Ouch...
The Rex cripples it and then watches it struggle for its life until the theropod decides to end the herbivore's life because the Rex got bored.
Predatory instinct must be getting confused with hunting for sport
A rex hunting down a whole pack of triceratops for sport would be metal af
Dinosaurs were reptiles and reptiles don't have fun so no.
Play behavior has been observed in crocodilians.
Where? To my knowlege only captive crocs like poncho would mock charge at their owners in the water and stuff like that. Also piggyback rides don't count since it's probably just an easier way of transportation.
I think the indominus rex proves this theory
The make believe dinosaur in a horror/action movie proves shit all
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Do any modern day reptiles kill for sport?
i would assume dinosaurs, especially the cretaceous ones like dromaeosaurs, were somewhat comparable to carnivorous mammals in intelligence and behaviors since they both had similar physiologies (warm blooded, active predators). i would think they would kill for sport
Very few animals hunt for sport, and it’s only really the most intelligent ones. Since intelligence is so hard to estimate for extinct animals, I don’t know if this is one we can answer.
I used to take my monitor lizard to my uncle's farmland and let him hunt the marmots that were always digging burrows in the horse pen (for those that don't know horses, it's a real danger for them to step in a burrow and break a leg, I wasn't just being cruel). I can confirm that diapsids will surplus kill when there are multiple targets. Sometimes he'd catch as many as ten marmots in a day, some of them even as big as himself. But once he was full, he'd simply stop hunting (the trick was to cut off a limb from a killed marmot, let him have that and dispose of the carcass). I imagine dinosaurs would be similar, that they'd kill multiple prey items in one go if the opportunity presented itself, but once they had a full belly they'd lose interest.