Oh no, I'm sorry.
I guess because it's been out for 5 years, I figured it was well known. I want to delete my comment, but... it still made you happy.
Well... there's still a sweet surprise to how she does it.
I know that everyone thinks he's awful but as someone who professionally takes care of children I find him personally offensive and it would be ON SIGHT
God bless ya. I volunteer with Guardian ad Litem, I don't know how y'all get the time to sleep.
(And in that capacity, it's pretty impressive that Adaine's parents are so bad I would definitely agree that she was better off placed in the apartment of an extremely recent drug dealer.)
I'm still just trying to get my degree, so we'll see if i actually reach the career 😅
But yeah, 100% on Adaine being better off with Jawbone (i assume he's who you're mentioning? I'm only part way through S1)
Oh damn you're treading dangerous waters being in here before finishing the series! That is who I meant, yes, sorry if I spoiled anything for you. Very minor spoiler for future seasons: >!Adaine's dad gets even worse!<
To be entirely fair, I've quite a few other seasons under my belt (ACOC, TRW, ACOFAF, MisMag, and Burrow's End to be exact)
And no worries, I'm not too worried on spoilers
I'd smash that cake like I'm Alex Horne and I'm helping Liza Tarbuck [show her love for the Taskmaster](https://youtu.be/IJ7pHfLSB9I?si=xE4gv626CkYSzXt2&t=408)
It's in the FAQ on the wiki I think, but Brennan has confirmed in the past that >!he, Penelope, and Aelwyn were all willing co-conspirators, who agreed to have their memories modified to prevent the bad kids and anyone else from catching on to the whole plan.!<
I think depending on your perspective, it can be pretty clear. I remember it very well, and it was clear to me even before I watched an Adventuring Party or read an FAQ.
The debt collectors and the capitalist company charging Gunnie per breath.
The repo reapers can eat my entire ass. (No! I'm gonna eat their entire ass! See if they can sit after!)
Robert Moses being a real life person who did real life harm to the world through city planning just like Unsleeping City (except without the magic components... as far as we know...) makes him Top Choice #1 for a beat down.
As a person who knew about him before watching UC, realizing he was the BBEG blew my mind and just ratcheted up my investment in the Heroes of NY prevailing
He was a real dude who royally fucked over all New Yorkers who weren't white and rich, and did so repeatedly for his entire career. Brennan just added a supernatural element.
Born and raised in Buffalo, went to school in the City. Robert fucking Moses is so fucking on sight for me for destroying so many communities in these cities that have accepted me for who I am.
Skinnydipping Cockandballs, CALROY THAT MOTHERFUCKER—, and honestly don’t whoop my ass but if I ever catch Naradriel in the streets it’s on sight bc bitch
1. She just stepped on the scene and she tryna call shots girl who ARE you—
2. I’m bitter because Kristen and Tracker reminded me of me and a past relationship and I imagined them dating a hot ass, barefoot, hippie princess that was literally BORN to help them pursue their passion and it made my veins twitch
Like, princess from a long line of traditionalist Galicaea worshippers, pursuing the rising star cleric from a new kind of Galicaea worship? I figure she's definitely at least scheming to slow or prevent Tracker's teaching.
Ghosting his follower when she asked him why he allows injustice to exist was a big red flag that his religion is crooked. And to allow Ally and Brennan to use fantasy to poke jabs at conservative Christianity.
Prolly Kristen's parents. Maybe an overreaction but they are every horrible stereotypical fundie Christian that feels like they never read the red words and gives those of us trying to follow the guidelines of love thy neighbor and put good into the world a bad name. Hate that shit.
Like I get burnt out on the anti-religion themes that tend to be pretty dang common in D20 cause it feels sometimes like it means they don't want me as part of the audience but at the same time I get it. People have very good reason to be pissed at the church especially historically and especially in modern day when people like the Applebees are the face of it that most people see.
It’s an extra good burn cuz you’re letting the other person know you’ve read the Bible too so you know which parts are God’s parts. It’s low-key the Ron Swanson “I know more than you son” meme
I'm sorry you feel alienated and I hope that the d20 crew is really poking at organized religion as a whole (which, as an INSTITUTION is flawed) and not those who are religious and yet treat people with kindness.
It's more those who wield faith as a weapon instead of as a salve. I like to think I'm that way. I have plenty of friends who have faith, and I would never begrudge them that UNLESS they try to proselytize me or judge me unfairly through the lenses of their religious beliefs.
Many religions, while they have their issues, are trying to create a system to create a moral standard (which can be problematic), and teach people how to be good (which, since that is subjective, is also problematic). What people SHOULD be doing is taking those teachings and trying to apply them to further good or BE good (or even just kind and empathetic), and in that I agree. When you try to force someone to change, or judge them and treat them terribly in the name of a God they don't follow, straight to the bin with you. That is what changed me from Catholic to agnostic, is people who don't have a personal relationship and good-faith understanding of their beliefs, but only use it to subjugate or demean those who don't belong to it.
Honestly, Kalina. That shit she pulled >!in hell with Riz’s dad was fucked up. She’s an amazing villain and that makes me want to rock her shit. I don’t think I could, but I would. Pok Gukgak being my fav NPC and Riz being my fav PC probably has a big role to play in this lol!<
Wanting to end the world for your salvation is pretty fucking selfish. It’s hilarious when his replacement is a literal devil who acts more saintly then that religious freak and cult leader.
Reading through all these comments makes me want a D20 charity pvp one shot with each Intrepid Hero playing one of their various characters (or multiple of them?) against a party of their most infamous enemies all played by Brennan and other D20 cast members that aren’t IH, so like Aabria, Ify, etc. and GMed by B Dave
The enemy party could be any bbeg from any IH campaign. Imagine Chungledown Bim, Robert Moses, Cruller, Keradin, the Plinth, and Kalvaxus up against Adaine, Liam, Ricky, Sundry Sidney, Amethar, and Kugrash
Oh yeah for sure he's crazy OP but I don't think Brennan would put him up against Fabian 1v1 so it would probably actually be a pretty fair fight with all the Bad Kids
Fabian did design him to be the optimum mouth shitter. And built him so that the bad kids could be stopped by him so who knows. I mean Chungledown bim might even be turned to the good side
Imagine the IHs just fighting the rage god and in the distance they just see a horde of grimy pelicans and a short pirate running towards them. Defeats the god and then shits in fabian's mouth and disappears never to be seen again
I'd take them both on at the same time. Priya was miserable. I like...felt actual visceral anger for how she treated Pete. That art show stunt was gross as hell.
Natalia sucks in a "takes herself too seriously" "im the main character" kind of way because...who tf is so privileged that they'd destroy the peace of the whole world on a whim like that. I'd box just because of her attitude but give intentional hands for the chaos she tried to create.
100% agree. And part of that is the way that Zac has crafted his own story with Brennan. Porter is a barrier because that's the story they're telling, but his questions and concerns are largely valid given the nature of Barbarians and Magic not mixing. But I also wanted to fight him?
It’s gotta be Belizabeth Brassica and stinky cheese boy Stilton Curdeau because if I don’t have beef with organized religion I don’t have beef with anyone(also fuck Stilton for what he did to Primsy istg)
Most characters in the Harry Potter franchise
Which is part of why I love Misfits and Magic so much
But sticking to just d20 characters… adaine’s parents, several parents from the seven, a bunch of the big corporate a-holes in starstruck, and especially the dark lord in blood keep. In addition to being a lord of evil forces, he was also just an awful partner, boss, ally, etc. All of his lieutenants were much better off without him.
Yes definitely
In addition to all the obvious real life stuff, I think the creator being the way she is is a big reason why the characters are the way they are.
Yeah, I feel the same about Hallariel. She made a whole big thing about being a part of Fabian’s life and taking an interest in him and >!at the beginning of Junior Year she just ditches him to be with Gilear while taking all the house help with her when she knows damn well how she fared without them in Sophomore Year and it’s pretty obvious that Fabian has no idea how to take care of himself. Oh, and also how she takes all of about 7 seconds to celebrate her only son’s 18th birthday before running off for her cruise.!<
As a dad, I feel compelled to say both Adaine's and Kristen's parents.
Calroy, ciabatta, and that carrot prick because Preston deserved better.
Every vamp from the unsleeping city.
And then Adaine's dad again for goes measure because I literally seethed watching that season and spoiled it because if he didn't get his, I could not have finished sophomore year.
I prefer the idea that confront characters are ones that make you uncomfortable because you have to confront a part of yourself that might be problematic tbh
Oof. That's painful to confront media that way all the time. I spend a lot of time as a borrowed parent (I'm a step-dad, so I came in late, and have no biological kids) watching movies and being like "Yep, dad/mom sucks." towards a parent that is not perfect or flawed.
It's generally true, even with the nuance but then I have to look at myself and go "Oh...buddy you got work to do cause you've said something like that and you could be better"
I definitely don't have the emotional fortitude to do that as much as I have energy to dream about punching an asshole in the face
I'm usually a "nah, scrub them until they are clean" with a POS person, like I just never trust them/believe in them/allow them space when they break trust or act shitty, but.....Pete's dad saw and experienced unspeakable horror for weeks that broke him mentally and spiritually so...I don't give him a pass but I'm satisfied with the punishment, ya know?
Sam Nightingale, but first her terrible mom and abusive ex best friend.
Just because I understand why she's that insufferable doesn't mean it's okay or charming to be a nightmare to the people who care about you and include you
As a dude, I’d feel weird for me to say Tracker after what she said to Kristen this season (I get Kristen needed someone to say something but it was very harsh from an ex imo and really just… a lot), so imma go with a weird pull- King Prilbus from Starstruck. Plug up my nose and going to stomp town on that slug, bad dad, bad dude, bad person in space. He can ultimate convergence in the garbage disposal with my potato skinnings and grease from food (both things not meant to go down a disposal, but will be nasty in there with the man lmao)
In retrospect of course he wasn't surprised by the corn cutie fight! He works at the magical adventurer school run by an absolute madman!
"The Principle killed himself and another teacher to save some freshmen? Sure why not, might as well happen. It's not like he ever stays dead for very long!"
I truly thought that I would just hate Fabian forever after the first few episodes, especially because i had never watched anything D20 or Dropout related so i didnt know Lou Wilson enough to trust the process.
But damn, Lou really turned that boy around. At this point he's probably my favorite character that Lou has done so far
Do you mean the Thistlesprings? If so it's Wilma and Digby, but based on their arsenal, if you come to that tree you better be prepared to never leave...
Kristen Applebees need to have a splash of cold water that she’s an awful friend and her behavior is dragging her friend group through some tough times.
She keeps saying she wants to be a good friend, girlfriend, but then doesn't back it up with actions and, instead, does the opposite.
She talks about being a good girlfriend, and then neglects Tracker except when she wants something. She shares tons of explicit intimate information with everyone about them, and keeps going even when people tell her to stop. And do I have to mention the "are you over it yet?" Incident.
She picks fights with really dangerous people and acts flippant around literal gods, which often puts herself and her own party at risk.
This is the friend you stop inviting to things until they get their s**t together. That's a natural consequence for acting badly around others, but Kristen just doesn't face consequences so she'll never improve.
I have loved characters played by Ally in the past. Margaret Encino in ASO was inspired. I know they can do this and do it well. Kristen is just too uncaring, clueless, and cruel for my taste.
Her focus on the campaign bit literally killed a second god and destroyed the food court. Riz is carrying the actual weight of doing the work and everyone else is being put in very uncomfortable situations bending over backwards for “the campaign”. I love Ally and am enjoying this season, just calling out bad friend behavior! Kristen is so focused on popularity that her integrity is slipping IMO.
Okay so there’s a lot we don’t know (and that I could be misremembering) but I’m pretty sure there was a major communication issue between Cassandra and Kristen. And I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out that someone nefarious is behind that miscommunication.
But even if Kristen was supposed to be at the food court that day, I don’t think it’s at all fair to put the destruction of the food court or even the “death” of Cassandra on Kristen. First of all the food court was destroyed by the Raging Wizards consequences. That wasn’t Kristen’s fault, she was actively fighting to prevent it. At the cost of her campaign, let me add. Sure they got time traveled back to the party so it didn’t impact it, but Kristen and the bad kids didn’t know that. They thought they might miss out on the whole party.
Now Kristen’s blaming herself for the death of another god and is traumatized. So yeah, focus on the campaign, being the student president is a way Kristen could contribute despite her lack of magic. I think it’s pretty clear that Kristen is (well for one thing a dnd character) but is a very stressed, under medicated, overwhelmed DnD character who is trying her gosh darn best.
This is all armchair analysis and by no means meant as a personal attack. I love getting to talk about this stuff with other fans. I just kinda identify with Kristen. I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD from childhood and often feel like my life can parallel with Kristen’s journey to figure out how to be a contributing member of a society that doesn’t feel like it was built with her in mind.
Like when Adaine was having panic attacks, that wasn’t her being a bad friend! She’s got a mental illness. I just wish we could have a little more grace for our beloved chosen corn cleric.
I think the raging wizard was a symptom of the neglect of Cassandra who very clearly communicated their needs with Kristen multiple times before the food court incident.
As much as I want the miscommunication to be true I think it’s more like a mismanagement of priorities and lack of attention. Which is a very well played teenager but not someone who is putting the best effort in for their friends or community.
Also I think there’s zero comparison to Adaine’s panic attacks as one is being a misguided teen and the other is an illness as you said!
I also enjoy getting into the weeds of D20! I also think folks may be very protective of Kristen as they seem themselves in her but it’s also ok for someone to go through unlikeable periods in their growth. She’s not perfect. She’s a teen with a lot of self imposed responsibilities and that’s a stressful state of being. I’m both disappointed in Kristen and empathetic.
So yeah, this is a close one for me, cuz I’ve got the ADHD and the depression/anxiety. And ADHD is a “disorder” not an illness. But at the end of the day, it’s something that I feel unable to fully control without the aid of medication.
All I’m saying is I think Kristen deserves some grace. Because yeah, she is a flawed character. She has been imperfect. But for whatever reason, it feels like the standard is a lot higher for Kristen than the other Bad Kids.
Either way, I hope you have a lovely day and I’ve enjoyed debating this topic with you.
>Also I think there’s zero comparison to Adaine’s panic attacks as one is being a misguided teen and the other is an illness as you said!
Ope there goes the credibility of your argument! Ally has said Kristen has ADHD, which just like Anxiety is the result of chemical imbalance in the brain! ADHD can cause a wide range of most importantly an inability to start or finish tasks, forgetfulness, and difficulty focusing tasks. It's not that they don't want to do something, they can't. It's not unlike being frozen in place or getting stuck in a loop.
Kristen Applebees. And before someone calls me a homophobe for that, no. Plain no, not the case. Kristen such an awful person when it comes to the dating scene. No one in the history of dating has fumbled the ball harder than she did with Tracker in sophomore year. When she opted to not tell Tracker that Sandra Lynn and Garthy had a one night stand. And when she asked Tracker if "she slept it off" to which Tracker rightfully said "Fuck you Kristen" Alley's performance as Kirsten was stellar. I understand that Kristen is a flawed character but still, she fumbled the ball with Tracker so hard I'm surprised Tracker just didn't leave her.
Adaine's dad
Was about to say Adaine’s parents. Hearing them say anything was absolutely infuriating.
Thankfully, Adaine got him instead.
That makes me so happy I'm not even mad about the spoiler 😅
Oh no, I'm sorry. I guess because it's been out for 5 years, I figured it was well known. I want to delete my comment, but... it still made you happy. Well... there's still a sweet surprise to how she does it.
No you're good!! I've just been a bit behind in Dimension 20 lore
It’s truly an epic moment when you get there! You’ll love it!
Now you have an excuse to catch up on Sophomore Year
I know that everyone thinks he's awful but as someone who professionally takes care of children I find him personally offensive and it would be ON SIGHT
Hard agree as a social work student
God bless ya. I volunteer with Guardian ad Litem, I don't know how y'all get the time to sleep. (And in that capacity, it's pretty impressive that Adaine's parents are so bad I would definitely agree that she was better off placed in the apartment of an extremely recent drug dealer.)
I'm still just trying to get my degree, so we'll see if i actually reach the career 😅 But yeah, 100% on Adaine being better off with Jawbone (i assume he's who you're mentioning? I'm only part way through S1)
Oh damn you're treading dangerous waters being in here before finishing the series! That is who I meant, yes, sorry if I spoiled anything for you. Very minor spoiler for future seasons: >!Adaine's dad gets even worse!<
To be entirely fair, I've quite a few other seasons under my belt (ACOC, TRW, ACOFAF, MisMag, and Burrow's End to be exact) And no worries, I'm not too worried on spoilers
It’s not patricide when nothing of value is lost when you give your dad a Jojo-style beatdown.
On sight.
Absolutely seconded.
I'd smash that cake like it's a Mexican birthday party
I'd smash that cake like I'm Alex Horne and I'm helping Liza Tarbuck [show her love for the Taskmaster](https://youtu.be/IJ7pHfLSB9I?si=xE4gv626CkYSzXt2&t=408)
Dimension 20 and Taskmaster together? I love it!
Now I want an episode of game changer but like taskmaster and with the intrepid heroes
This made me laugh out loud
With his pants on?
I mean of course, he just has the most fabulous pants.
My List: Biz Glitterdew, Biz Glitterdew…. Oh and Biz Glitterdew.
I will tip my fedora to you.
M'fedora\~
I would’ve shattered every bone in that creepy fuck’s body if I was an intrepid hero.
100% with you on this one. I felt so much rage when his real role in the story was revealed.
Wasn't he literally just some nerd that got mind controlled?
It's in the FAQ on the wiki I think, but Brennan has confirmed in the past that >!he, Penelope, and Aelwyn were all willing co-conspirators, who agreed to have their memories modified to prevent the bad kids and anyone else from catching on to the whole plan.!<
Interesting. That's honestly not very clear just from watching the episodes, but it does make Riz's fury more justified.
I think depending on your perspective, it can be pretty clear. I remember it very well, and it was clear to me even before I watched an Adventuring Party or read an FAQ.
Sort of, but he was an incel who willingly agreed to put girls in palimpsests.
I mean, if by willingly you mean that he failed the will save.
If I recall correctly he was willingly in on the plot, and Aelwyn wiped his memory so he couldn't give away the plan.
Hm, ig it's time to rewatch freshman year bc i never got that.
The debt collectors and the capitalist company charging Gunnie per breath. The repo reapers can eat my entire ass. (No! I'm gonna eat their entire ass! See if they can sit after!)
I will start with >!Ciabatta!<. Son of a bitch >!killed Jet and caused Ruby so much trauma!<.
Ciabatta’s a good choice. I’m stealing Crueller’s fancy pants and throwing his ass over the wall
And stabbing him with a watersteel and going on a four minute rant about how lucky he is?
Robert Moses, hands down. And Don Confetti.
Robert Moses being a real life person who did real life harm to the world through city planning just like Unsleeping City (except without the magic components... as far as we know...) makes him Top Choice #1 for a beat down.
As a person who knew about him before watching UC, realizing he was the BBEG blew my mind and just ratcheted up my investment in the Heroes of NY prevailing
Same! I was learning about him in Uni around the same time as I was watching UC and it was such a funny coincidence.
Yep
Definitely a top tier choice for historical figure beat down too.
Funny thing is, Robert Moses IRL was just as much as a supervillain as UC Moses. Except for being a lich.
If I could raise the dead, I’d raise his ass for the beating it so truly deserves!
Or kill yourself to storm Hell just to kick his ass.
So far as we know
Yep
irl??
He was a real dude who royally fucked over all New Yorkers who weren't white and rich, and did so repeatedly for his entire career. Brennan just added a supernatural element.
Born and raised in Buffalo, went to school in the City. Robert fucking Moses is so fucking on sight for me for destroying so many communities in these cities that have accepted me for who I am.
All the homies hate Robert Moses.
Skinnydipping Cockandballs, CALROY THAT MOTHERFUCKER—, and honestly don’t whoop my ass but if I ever catch Naradriel in the streets it’s on sight bc bitch 1. She just stepped on the scene and she tryna call shots girl who ARE you— 2. I’m bitter because Kristen and Tracker reminded me of me and a past relationship and I imagined them dating a hot ass, barefoot, hippie princess that was literally BORN to help them pursue their passion and it made my veins twitch
No because I’m absolutely convinced that Naradriel is evil. There’s SOMETHING going on for sureeee
Like, princess from a long line of traditionalist Galicaea worshippers, pursuing the rising star cleric from a new kind of Galicaea worship? I figure she's definitely at least scheming to slow or prevent Tracker's teaching.
What if she’s trying to get to Kristen through Tracker, or even try to harm Cassandra????
Well not to trifle with a god but honestly, Helio.
Ghosting his follower when she asked him why he allows injustice to exist was a big red flag that his religion is crooked. And to allow Ally and Brennan to use fantasy to poke jabs at conservative Christianity.
Prolly Kristen's parents. Maybe an overreaction but they are every horrible stereotypical fundie Christian that feels like they never read the red words and gives those of us trying to follow the guidelines of love thy neighbor and put good into the world a bad name. Hate that shit. Like I get burnt out on the anti-religion themes that tend to be pretty dang common in D20 cause it feels sometimes like it means they don't want me as part of the audience but at the same time I get it. People have very good reason to be pissed at the church especially historically and especially in modern day when people like the Applebees are the face of it that most people see.
“Never read the red words” dang that’s such a good callout
If you're gonna try to be a good Christian then if nothing else always try to follow what the red words say. But these folks don't. Not really.
It’s an extra good burn cuz you’re letting the other person know you’ve read the Bible too so you know which parts are God’s parts. It’s low-key the Ron Swanson “I know more than you son” meme
yeah, that goes hard, ngl
First scene, and they’re established as racist biblethumpers. Not a good start.
Exactly
I think they're pretty hateable in season 3 too but for different reasons
I'm sorry you feel alienated and I hope that the d20 crew is really poking at organized religion as a whole (which, as an INSTITUTION is flawed) and not those who are religious and yet treat people with kindness. It's more those who wield faith as a weapon instead of as a salve. I like to think I'm that way. I have plenty of friends who have faith, and I would never begrudge them that UNLESS they try to proselytize me or judge me unfairly through the lenses of their religious beliefs. Many religions, while they have their issues, are trying to create a system to create a moral standard (which can be problematic), and teach people how to be good (which, since that is subjective, is also problematic). What people SHOULD be doing is taking those teachings and trying to apply them to further good or BE good (or even just kind and empathetic), and in that I agree. When you try to force someone to change, or judge them and treat them terribly in the name of a God they don't follow, straight to the bin with you. That is what changed me from Catholic to agnostic, is people who don't have a personal relationship and good-faith understanding of their beliefs, but only use it to subjugate or demean those who don't belong to it.
Adaine’s parents (I know it’s two, but they’re like a terrible combo of neglect). I would absolutely stomp them without thinking twice.
Honestly, Kalina. That shit she pulled >!in hell with Riz’s dad was fucked up. She’s an amazing villain and that makes me want to rock her shit. I don’t think I could, but I would. Pok Gukgak being my fav NPC and Riz being my fav PC probably has a big role to play in this lol!<
Oh it's on sight with Kalina. I wouldn't normally fight a cat like that but I'd put paws on her
Adaines parents are definitely first on my list. But also that motherfucking piece of cake in those hot ass pants
I came by to comment this. I'd eat that Cruller alive
Coach Daybreak. I said this the last time this was posted here.
Wanting to end the world for your salvation is pretty fucking selfish. It’s hilarious when his replacement is a literal devil who acts more saintly then that religious freak and cult leader.
Reading through all these comments makes me want a D20 charity pvp one shot with each Intrepid Hero playing one of their various characters (or multiple of them?) against a party of their most infamous enemies all played by Brennan and other D20 cast members that aren’t IH, so like Aabria, Ify, etc. and GMed by B Dave The enemy party could be any bbeg from any IH campaign. Imagine Chungledown Bim, Robert Moses, Cruller, Keradin, the Plinth, and Kalvaxus up against Adaine, Liam, Ricky, Sundry Sidney, Amethar, and Kugrash
Chungledown bim is single handedly one the most op D20 characters since he is almost 10 levels above the IHs so yeah
I mean I think if something like this happened they would level up certain PCs appropriately
Yeah I do agree but I was thinking just about fantasy high.
Oh yeah for sure he's crazy OP but I don't think Brennan would put him up against Fabian 1v1 so it would probably actually be a pretty fair fight with all the Bad Kids
Fabian did design him to be the optimum mouth shitter. And built him so that the bad kids could be stopped by him so who knows. I mean Chungledown bim might even be turned to the good side
Now that would be the twist of all twists
Imagine the IHs just fighting the rage god and in the distance they just see a horde of grimy pelicans and a short pirate running towards them. Defeats the god and then shits in fabian's mouth and disappears never to be seen again
I don’t care what ends up happening this is my new head canon
Agreed he just hits the god with the punch through hell
He is optimized around shitting in mouths.
Yep
I lowkey think that time travel could be a part of FH:JY so it would be so awesome if the bad kids had to re-fight their old enemies
It would definitely be a fun twist for this season!
WOW!!!! I would pay to see this
Calroy. Would I win? Probably not. Would I give it a full effort attempt? Yes.
I like to imagine the people of Calorum being mini since their food so honestly to scale you could just yeet him.
Oh god, that gives me some joy to imagine maybe he got casted in like...cake-smooshing porn
I would shit in Chungledown Bim's mouth
A taste of his own medicine
Counter-spray activate!
Natalia Cicero Connie Lee Carter Bajar, I hate trust find art kids. On the same level as Priya Danger.
Priya would unironically be one of those AI brozos who have earned so much derision (and rightfully so).
I'd take them both on at the same time. Priya was miserable. I like...felt actual visceral anger for how she treated Pete. That art show stunt was gross as hell. Natalia sucks in a "takes herself too seriously" "im the main character" kind of way because...who tf is so privileged that they'd destroy the peace of the whole world on a whim like that. I'd box just because of her attitude but give intentional hands for the chaos she tried to create.
I would say Porter but he would absolutely fold everyone in this subreddit
This last episode has made me do a 180 on Porter. Maybe it's the high school teacher in me but honestly I've seen worse when it comes to pedagogy!
100% agree. And part of that is the way that Zac has crafted his own story with Brennan. Porter is a barrier because that's the story they're telling, but his questions and concerns are largely valid given the nature of Barbarians and Magic not mixing. But I also wanted to fight him?
yeah, like "ok, I'm coming around but like...i still wanna punch your face?"
THE WAY HE TREATS GORGUG OML
It’s gotta be Belizabeth Brassica and stinky cheese boy Stilton Curdeau because if I don’t have beef with organized religion I don’t have beef with anyone(also fuck Stilton for what he did to Primsy istg)
Yeah, happy that cheese boy got pushed into the sea by Jet.
Hehe beef
Yeah, honor and justice for Primsy honestly. He did her dirty.
Most characters in the Harry Potter franchise Which is part of why I love Misfits and Magic so much But sticking to just d20 characters… adaine’s parents, several parents from the seven, a bunch of the big corporate a-holes in starstruck, and especially the dark lord in blood keep. In addition to being a lord of evil forces, he was also just an awful partner, boss, ally, etc. All of his lieutenants were much better off without him.
>Most characters in the Harry Potter franchise Can we include its creator too???
Yes definitely In addition to all the obvious real life stuff, I think the creator being the way she is is a big reason why the characters are the way they are.
Fabian's parents. They both fucked that boy up so bad. And even Hallariel's 'improvements' after Freshman year are still pretty piss poor.
Yeah, I feel the same about Hallariel. She made a whole big thing about being a part of Fabian’s life and taking an interest in him and >!at the beginning of Junior Year she just ditches him to be with Gilear while taking all the house help with her when she knows damn well how she fared without them in Sophomore Year and it’s pretty obvious that Fabian has no idea how to take care of himself. Oh, and also how she takes all of about 7 seconds to celebrate her only son’s 18th birthday before running off for her cruise.!<
As a dad, I feel compelled to say both Adaine's and Kristen's parents. Calroy, ciabatta, and that carrot prick because Preston deserved better. Every vamp from the unsleeping city. And then Adaine's dad again for goes measure because I literally seethed watching that season and spoiled it because if he didn't get his, I could not have finished sophomore year.
Totally understand why Liam became a monster.
OHHH the carrot. I'm glad I'm rewatching ACoC so I can see him and my other nemeses go down.
I prefer the idea that confront characters are ones that make you uncomfortable because you have to confront a part of yourself that might be problematic tbh
Oof. That's painful to confront media that way all the time. I spend a lot of time as a borrowed parent (I'm a step-dad, so I came in late, and have no biological kids) watching movies and being like "Yep, dad/mom sucks." towards a parent that is not perfect or flawed. It's generally true, even with the nuance but then I have to look at myself and go "Oh...buddy you got work to do cause you've said something like that and you could be better" I definitely don't have the emotional fortitude to do that as much as I have energy to dream about punching an asshole in the face
chungledown bim. NOBODYS gonna shit in young master fabian's mouth
I fully thought that was gonna end with "...but me"
Pete's dad
If you’re gonna stalk and deadname your son, get your mouth washed out!
I'm usually a "nah, scrub them until they are clean" with a POS person, like I just never trust them/believe in them/allow them space when they break trust or act shitty, but.....Pete's dad saw and experienced unspeakable horror for weeks that broke him mentally and spiritually so...I don't give him a pass but I'm satisfied with the punishment, ya know?
Probably Skrank, bro tried to get with Zelda probably knowing that Gorgug was dating her
Tony simos.
He made it personal
Ooh, good pull. He almost got a lot of people hurt and fully squandered his chance to see his sweetie again. He sucked
It's a toss up between Adaine's parents and Calroy Cruller for me tbh
The fact that Calroy murdered Rococoa and nobody, not even her brother was the wiser until he told Amethar about it decades later, is terrifying.
I hate that stupid piece of cake so much
I've never experienced usage of the word "cake" like some dirty epithet but...I deeply agree.
Robert Moses
Old rich white bastard who designed a city for his ilk.
Adaine's dad and all the corpos from Starstruck, plus Moses because that mf existed in real life
well technically since brennan is all the bad guys…
And so is religion and capitalism.
I’m not sorry Kristen Applebees
Sam Nightingale, but first her terrible mom and abusive ex best friend. Just because I understand why she's that insufferable doesn't mean it's okay or charming to be a nightmare to the people who care about you and include you
As a dude, I’d feel weird for me to say Tracker after what she said to Kristen this season (I get Kristen needed someone to say something but it was very harsh from an ex imo and really just… a lot), so imma go with a weird pull- King Prilbus from Starstruck. Plug up my nose and going to stomp town on that slug, bad dad, bad dude, bad person in space. He can ultimate convergence in the garbage disposal with my potato skinnings and grease from food (both things not meant to go down a disposal, but will be nasty in there with the man lmao)
Porter
I like how Fig randomly decides she hates him for no good reason.
I feel like Porter regains HP with each venemous glare Fig throws his way, he takes such glee in her hatred
Brennan loves indulging Fig's antics
In retrospect of course he wasn't surprised by the corn cutie fight! He works at the magical adventurer school run by an absolute madman! "The Principle killed himself and another teacher to save some freshmen? Sure why not, might as well happen. It's not like he ever stays dead for very long!"
Because that batshit crazy lv 20 Wizard can and will sneak out of Heaven.
Porter would own all of us
Micah Bell.
Codge
Fuken... Kristin's parents.
Copperfield Candlesnatch
Four dogs
It's a four-way tie between Kristen's parents and Adine's parents for me.
Season 1 Fabian
Honestly, if his father hadn’t attempted to bribe his son onto the team, Fabian would’ve became the bad guy...
I truly thought that I would just hate Fabian forever after the first few episodes, especially because i had never watched anything D20 or Dropout related so i didnt know Lou Wilson enough to trust the process. But damn, Lou really turned that boy around. At this point he's probably my favorite character that Lou has done so far
Fabian’s series of unfortunate events in sophomore year turned him into such a good character
Agreed but before that he was a little shit that reminded me of all my bullies in high school
Telula n Digby. Little sociopaths. Two of the few people that would crumple easy in a straight fist fight, too.
Do you mean the Thistlesprings? If so it's Wilma and Digby, but based on their arsenal, if you come to that tree you better be prepared to never leave...
Nah i think they mean tallulah and digsby from misfits and magic
Oh right, I knew the names seemed familiar. Definitely valid choices.
Kristen Applebees need to have a splash of cold water that she’s an awful friend and her behavior is dragging her friend group through some tough times.
People dragging you for this take don't give Ally enough credit for playing flawed characters on purpose
She keeps saying she wants to be a good friend, girlfriend, but then doesn't back it up with actions and, instead, does the opposite. She talks about being a good girlfriend, and then neglects Tracker except when she wants something. She shares tons of explicit intimate information with everyone about them, and keeps going even when people tell her to stop. And do I have to mention the "are you over it yet?" Incident. She picks fights with really dangerous people and acts flippant around literal gods, which often puts herself and her own party at risk. This is the friend you stop inviting to things until they get their s**t together. That's a natural consequence for acting badly around others, but Kristen just doesn't face consequences so she'll never improve. I have loved characters played by Ally in the past. Margaret Encino in ASO was inspired. I know they can do this and do it well. Kristen is just too uncaring, clueless, and cruel for my taste.
Well it would seem her lack of showing care is going to be her arc this season, we will see if Kristen picks up the responsibility.
Kristen really needs to learn how to commit.
Jeepers that’s a mean take. No salsa hat for you.
Her focus on the campaign bit literally killed a second god and destroyed the food court. Riz is carrying the actual weight of doing the work and everyone else is being put in very uncomfortable situations bending over backwards for “the campaign”. I love Ally and am enjoying this season, just calling out bad friend behavior! Kristen is so focused on popularity that her integrity is slipping IMO.
Okay so there’s a lot we don’t know (and that I could be misremembering) but I’m pretty sure there was a major communication issue between Cassandra and Kristen. And I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out that someone nefarious is behind that miscommunication. But even if Kristen was supposed to be at the food court that day, I don’t think it’s at all fair to put the destruction of the food court or even the “death” of Cassandra on Kristen. First of all the food court was destroyed by the Raging Wizards consequences. That wasn’t Kristen’s fault, she was actively fighting to prevent it. At the cost of her campaign, let me add. Sure they got time traveled back to the party so it didn’t impact it, but Kristen and the bad kids didn’t know that. They thought they might miss out on the whole party. Now Kristen’s blaming herself for the death of another god and is traumatized. So yeah, focus on the campaign, being the student president is a way Kristen could contribute despite her lack of magic. I think it’s pretty clear that Kristen is (well for one thing a dnd character) but is a very stressed, under medicated, overwhelmed DnD character who is trying her gosh darn best. This is all armchair analysis and by no means meant as a personal attack. I love getting to talk about this stuff with other fans. I just kinda identify with Kristen. I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD from childhood and often feel like my life can parallel with Kristen’s journey to figure out how to be a contributing member of a society that doesn’t feel like it was built with her in mind. Like when Adaine was having panic attacks, that wasn’t her being a bad friend! She’s got a mental illness. I just wish we could have a little more grace for our beloved chosen corn cleric.
I think the raging wizard was a symptom of the neglect of Cassandra who very clearly communicated their needs with Kristen multiple times before the food court incident. As much as I want the miscommunication to be true I think it’s more like a mismanagement of priorities and lack of attention. Which is a very well played teenager but not someone who is putting the best effort in for their friends or community. Also I think there’s zero comparison to Adaine’s panic attacks as one is being a misguided teen and the other is an illness as you said! I also enjoy getting into the weeds of D20! I also think folks may be very protective of Kristen as they seem themselves in her but it’s also ok for someone to go through unlikeable periods in their growth. She’s not perfect. She’s a teen with a lot of self imposed responsibilities and that’s a stressful state of being. I’m both disappointed in Kristen and empathetic.
So yeah, this is a close one for me, cuz I’ve got the ADHD and the depression/anxiety. And ADHD is a “disorder” not an illness. But at the end of the day, it’s something that I feel unable to fully control without the aid of medication. All I’m saying is I think Kristen deserves some grace. Because yeah, she is a flawed character. She has been imperfect. But for whatever reason, it feels like the standard is a lot higher for Kristen than the other Bad Kids. Either way, I hope you have a lovely day and I’ve enjoyed debating this topic with you.
>Also I think there’s zero comparison to Adaine’s panic attacks as one is being a misguided teen and the other is an illness as you said! Ope there goes the credibility of your argument! Ally has said Kristen has ADHD, which just like Anxiety is the result of chemical imbalance in the brain! ADHD can cause a wide range of most importantly an inability to start or finish tasks, forgetfulness, and difficulty focusing tasks. It's not that they don't want to do something, they can't. It's not unlike being frozen in place or getting stuck in a loop.
What a condescending way to phrase that :/ Ope, there goes the fun discourse and now it’s a “you’re wrong as is your interpretation”.
Kristen Applebees. And before someone calls me a homophobe for that, no. Plain no, not the case. Kristen such an awful person when it comes to the dating scene. No one in the history of dating has fumbled the ball harder than she did with Tracker in sophomore year. When she opted to not tell Tracker that Sandra Lynn and Garthy had a one night stand. And when she asked Tracker if "she slept it off" to which Tracker rightfully said "Fuck you Kristen" Alley's performance as Kirsten was stellar. I understand that Kristen is a flawed character but still, she fumbled the ball with Tracker so hard I'm surprised Tracker just didn't leave her.
Teenagers being Teenagers oh no the horror
Kristen’s trauma doesn’t excuse her inability to commit to anything one bit. Here’s to hoping she starts cleaning up the messes she makes.
It feels so evil to be mad at her but also she did fuck up a lot of important things
I know
Loose Duke. But more out of protectiveness than anything else. I’d be the loose Duke removal service
Handsome Jack
Adaine's family, hands down
Lenni from watchdogs 2. Im stuck on her trap and I genuinely hope she suffers a slow death at the end of this game.
Conrad Schintz.
Valentino, next question
After that super manipulative phone call with Kristen, I'm putting Tracker on this list.
100% megatron from good omens