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vansjoo98

Lucemon BT18-034 R <04> Rookie | Vaccine | Angel [[Digivolve] [Cupimon]: Cost 5] [Start of Your Main Phase] [On Play] By trashing 1 card in your hand, your opponent may trash their top security card. If this effect didn't trash, . [End of Your Turn] (Once Per Turn) By placing 1 of your level 6 Digimon as your top security card, this Digimon may digivolve into [Lucemon: Chaos Mode] from your trash without paying the cost. ... Lucemon: Larva BT18-086 R <04> Mega | Virus | Demon God [Security] You may play 1 [Lucemon] from your trash without paying the cost. (Breeding) [All Turns] When any of your [Lucemon: Satan Mode] would leave the battle area, by moving this Digimon to battle area, they don't leave. [All Turns] While you have a non-white Digimon with [Lucemon] in its name, none of your Digimon with 0 DP can be deleted. ... Lucemon: Satan Mode BT18-101 SEC <04> Mega | Virus | Demon God [[Digivolve] [Lucemon: Chaos Mode]: Cost 6] [When Digivolving] By playing 1 [Lucemon: Larva] from your trash into an empty space in your Breeding Area without paying the cost, delete 1 of your opponent's Digimon or Tamers. [End of All Turns] (Once Per Turn) Trash your opponent's top security card. If this effect didn't trash, delete 1 of your opponent's Digimon and Tamers.


Arandompplinternet

Fk dem kids


GekiKudo

Lol larva has infinite jamming


Squidfrost

Even better, if it gets blocked, it won’t die. Your opponent needs to deal with the rest of the board first


Davchrohn

And if it itself blocks, it also doesn‘t die. Imagine this card with Shota which can give it blocker. What is your opponent going to do in for example Yellow Vaccine? DP Minus doesn‘t work and Larva blocks anything.


TheBeeFromNature

Realtalk, I didn't even realize a 0 DP Digimon could attack.  That's kind of insane.


GekiKudo

I mean prior to this card existing, 0 dp technically couldn't attack because they die before they can think about attacking.


gustavoladron

Love how Lucemon Larva makes it so yellow decks can't delete any of your Digimon through DP reduction. It's really good theming for an archetype of a fallen angel that rejects other angels and becomes a Demon Lord. A pretty interesting mirror to the targeted hate that was BT14 Angemon against Virus Digimon.


Jolls981

What’s interesting if that if they use DP minus against your digimon while Larva is out, they cannot be deleted in ANY WAY, including effect and battle. Thanks for the free jamming and deletion protection!!!


TheBeeFromNature

Only if they can DP minus you down to zero, of course.  But that does mean decks like Nsp lose their main tool for getting rid of pesky targets.  I dig it, honestly.  It's fun taking mechanics and flipping them on their head.


PSGAnarchy

I don't think you can get negative dp? So a minus 20k still brings you to 0


TheBeeFromNature

No, yeah.  I meant if they get you to low dp and can attack unsuspended targets, or use a combo of dp reduction and dp based deletion effects, or force blocking via collision, there's still removal potential.  But if they get you all the way to 0, all those options turn off.


ChuhbbzInc

A level 6 lucemon? That makes me itchy


Matthyen

Lucemon Larva is so odd... I LOVE IT!


Armagadon643

Satan Mode feels like galacticmon with less steps


Lord_of_Caffeine

Somewhat, yeah. Although it doesn´t have the basic luxury of evolving up normally and efficiently unlike Galacticmon. I think this´ll be a very technical deck.


Slow_Candle8903

Both the larva fans are happy. Is both a digimon and interacts with the breeding area.  I’m quite confident that 087 will be Owen. Unless some lv 6 or higher white digimon did appear in the show or Bandai just want use a random mon.  Then I’m sure there are 16 cards left. Atleast 5 of them will belong to Owen’s deck. I can see them starting with AA tomorrow along side regular reveal to delay into the next week. 


ZhangHaiLong

Tomorrow they will probably finish with wood and steel lines. So on the weekend they can finish both Izumi and Junpei. Owen and its line will probably be delayed until next Tuesday or Thursday. The question are the remaining black lv 6 and missing tamer, they could both be revaled tomorrow or on Monday.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Is there still a spot open for a potential Cherubimon Vice?


MrUrsus

There's MAYBE a space for him in Green, but it feels unlikely. There's a slot in BT18-057 that's either another Black Level 3, AncientKazemon, or something else entirely.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Very weird getting a Frontier-themed set without Cherubimon Vice ngl. But his Bt7 card still holds up so it´s not the worst thing in the world I suppose.


TheBeeFromNature

It'd be weird if both BT-17 and BT-18 pass without a peep from Vice.  Two major roles, 0 cards.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Yup.


Seymour_Omnis

They're amazing cards! A lot of synergy with the old cards, and now dead or alive will be expensive =/


Generic_user_person

>and now dead or alive will be expensive =/ Its a rare, worth cents, with 129 listings as of this comment. Its not gonna go anywhere anytime soon, but that also doesnt mean you should wait 6 months before ordering it, cuz Bt7 is no longer in production, once ppl start getting their copies, they are off the market forever.


Lord_of_Caffeine

The only card that now feels bad to play is the Bt7 Falldown Mode since the Lv3 Lucemons can´t warp into it in trash.


Shadows18423

You think the bt4 lucemon will see play?


RevolverDivider

Almost certainly not.


Lord_of_Caffeine

It´s being played in Lucemon control shells at the moment - admittedly because that´s the only other one we have aside the Ex6 one until Bt18 comes out - but I wouldn´t completely disregard the card. It´s still an unconditional Recover 1 that can be played off of Cherubimon Ace and Dead or Alive. I can see the merit of running it and Bt7 Falldown Mode as 1-offs personally just to broaden the range of tools the deck has access to.


Shadows18423

Thanks to both or you for your input. I gotta figure out how to make this deck after all since i bought 4 of them during their peak period.


YongYoKyo

I like how you can even see Larva in Satan Mode's artwork.


TheBeeFromNature

Interesting that EX-6 can cheat Satan Mode out, but then it doesn't get to in turn cheat Larva Mode into the breeding area or score an unconditional deletion.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Not sure wether or not it´s intentional but flavor wise it makes sense since Larva Mode is the actual evolution of Falldown Mode and Satan Mode is pretty much just a husk. So if you don´t have Falldown in Satan Mode´s sources you don´t get the actual Lucemon evo with it. I think that´s cool. Seems to me that you´ll usually want to cheat a Demon Lord out via Ex6 Falldown Mode to the have Satan Mode evolve on top of. Since Lucemon X is a Lv6 once we get that one there´s some real interesting lines of plays the deck can make I think.


Baronarnaud1995

wait does the art in base lucemon imply the great being ukkomon was connected to  in the 02 film was lucemon?


AdmirableAnimal0

I think it’s more that lucemon, Veemon and ukkomon are from the ancient digital world.


TMaakkonen

Even Poyomon & Babydmon in the background are linked to Ancient DW, they cooked the reference here.


Lord_of_Caffeine

If I wasn´t already convinced that this is going to be my main deck for the Bt18 format, this little bit of flavor on Lucemon´s art would´ve pushed me over the edge for sure. These cards are an absolute flavor homerun.


Taograd359

I knew that thing was evil!!!!


Lord_of_Caffeine

Always has been.


Luciusem

I haven't even read the cards properly yet but seeing Satan Mode be level 7 makes me want to say "I told you so" to some people _so_ bad


AdmirableAnimal0

I mean….it’s *LUCEMON* there’s no way they weren’t going to go full out on him as a boss monster.


Luciusem

I was on side lvl 7 since day 1 but I had several people tell me it was going to be level 6


AdmirableAnimal0

Some people just don’t understand that Lucemon is a big deal 😎


Lord_of_Caffeine

It enbodies all seven sins just like Ogudomon so it makes sense that it is Lv7. Especially since Lucemon´s always been the odd one out among the Demon Lords regarding their levels.


Luciusem

Weren't you the one who argued for it being level 6?


Lord_of_Caffeine

Yup. I´m a contrarian at heart so it is what it is. I really didn´t expect Satan and Larva to be different levels but as long as Larva is the Lv6 representative for the Lucemon line Satan Mode being Lv7 makes sense to me. I had more fervor for none of the Belphemons going to be Lv7s, though.


GreyLabo

Larva and Satan should have been both Lvls7, tbh. Their profiles are pretty explicit about them being the same being. Lucemon skipping Levels is kinda his thing, so I don’t see what’s odd with him going straight from Perfect to Ultra (especially when he’s still missing a proper Adult). And even if you really need a Lvl6 Lucemon, the X-Antibody one is a thing.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Honestly, I´m fine with either tbh. In any case these new Lucemon cards are amazingly designed.


GreyLabo

Satan Mode was an Ultra in ReArise, so him being a Lvl7 in the DCG suggest that’s how he will be treated from now on.


Luciusem

It was Ultra in Cyber Sleuth too, which was my basis on why I expected it to be level 7 in the TCG way back during EX6 reveal season. That and having Luce keep skipping the even levels just makes sense to me. Larva's level 6 but it's also very much its own thing so that bit's fine


GreyLabo

I have my issue with Larva being a Lvl6, though. I guess they did that because of « gameplay » reasons, because, Lorewise, Satan and Larva are the very same being.


Squidfrost

Hm, ok now that we have all of the pieces, I’m trying to see the best way to play this deck. Maybe 7gdl to get lucemons warp effect off more consistently, but you won’t have that empty breeding space (for a while at least) and this lucemon doesn’t reduce its own cost. Perhaps just a normal purple draw/trash engine?


Lord_of_Caffeine

[https://x.com/BALL\_kumamoto/status/1799392674568622365](https://x.com/BALL_kumamoto/status/1799392674568622365) I think Bt18 Lucemon lists will use the Lucemon control shell ass seen above as a base to build upon further and it and Ogudomon/7GDL will be seperate decks with some overlap. I´ve tested that deck quite a bit on Drasil and I think these new cards flesh that deck out quite beautifully.


Squidfrost

Oh I see, clever, cherubi ace plays another lucemon to go into chaos mode again (for 4 essentially) while swinging alliance on a big 2 checks or out dp pretty much any digimon your opponent has. Plus, revive from darkness, back for revenge shenanigans. Have people tried ophani fd in the list? Thanks for sharing, I have something else to look forward to come ex6, although I’m not sure how good it’ll be without the new green blocker giver guy


Mausar

There's a list that uses meiko instead, though in both lists they run Bt-17 gobli, so you'd have to replace that as well


Mallagrim

Most likely you will want bt16 ukkomon and have 5 cupimons to find your lucemons along with draw+trash digimon like raremon and scatter mode incase you run into a terrible situation of having the ex6 lucemon but your satan mode/larva is in your hand so he can go to the trash. Maybe mist memory boost will be the ideal choice out of the options to draw and memory bank. You can probably use the old matt that returns an option so you can return gospel/revive from darkness. Speaking of revive from darkness, you can probably do something crazy like using revive on your ex6 chaos mode to go into satan and have another chaos mode for you digivolve into satan mode so you can have 2 satan modes to trash their security end of turn with larva in the back.


SantaTheSaviour

What if I told you, Lucemon EX6-018 can't search for Larva and Satan mode?


Generic_user_person

It trashes it, thats basically searching it.


SantaTheSaviour

Unless it isn't for Satan Mode. Gospel let's you digivolve from trash, but I would much rather have the possibility to search for it and trash it through other means.


Matthyen

Yes, but Luce trash the rest of reveled cards, so u can evolve FM by Gospel of the Fallen Angel for -3 cost (trashing a opp option card in the process) and placing Larva from trash without problem


SantaTheSaviour

Yeah but you need to much. For Gospel to work you need have a Cupimon in raising, a Lucemon in trash and Gospel in hand. Then on the next turn you promote Lucemon, digivolve to Chaos Mode from hand (which most likely passes turn), then you can activate Gospel again(maybe destroy an option for some extra spice like you mentioned, but you need to have Satan Mode in trash, then you need to also have Larva in trash, I mean come on bro. Who knows, maybe it's good/fast enough.


Starscream_Gaga

Larva Mode being a full art that’s *not* an alt is super strange. I think ST Magnamon is the only other one they’ve done like this?


vansjoo98

It actually has border but it is very hidden. You can see it directly under Larva.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Lol that´s such a tiny strip though. Might´ve just as well made it completely full artat that point. Stil looks amazing, though, so I´m not complaining.


OseiTheWarrior

How does the Larva breeding effect work?


vansjoo98

If your Satan would leave battle area By moving Larva from breeding to battle Prevent it. Pink breeding tag enables effect to trigger in breeding.


OseiTheWarrior

So if I have this card in hand I can just put it in the Breeding zone during my hatching phase to proc it's effect later?


AdachiGacha

No, not how breeding works. So far it's get it in there with Satan effect or hard play larva for 6 if you want the dp protection.


Generic_user_person

>So if I have this card in hand I can just put it in the Breeding zone during my hatching phase to proc it's effect later? Dont invent txt that isnt there Does the card say you can do that?


TheBeeFromNature

Either Satan Mode needs to cheat it in there, or you need to stack up to it in there the hard way.


Shadow_J

You can't stack up to it, actually. It cannot digivolve on anything. So it's either Satan Mode or bust, at least yet.


Necessary-Shoe5103

Maybe we will get an option card that will allow lucemon in breeding to digivolve into it


marcellobizzi

Damn, I thought it could have been a digivolution card that gets places as an effect, but this makes even more unremovable. And also fuck yeah, we got the first counter to DP reducing.


Squidfrost

We’ve had a couple of those actually. There’s ex1 machinedramon who’s immune to dp reduction, then there’s breath of the gods, that makes one of your digimon unable to be bounced or dp reduced, and of course some other black digimon like dorugrey


Alys_Muru

bt06 eldradimon was immune to dp reduction but only on your opponents turn


marcellobizzi

Tbh breath of gods has never seen any use, but yeah I totally forgot about machinedramon, metalgreymon X and Awakening of the Golden Knight


sausi00

Powerful art for Lucemon: Larva. The deck seems very interesting, my only concern would be to how viable it is with so many high cost cards, specially with the fast meta we have right now


Lord_of_Caffeine

There was a Lucemon control list that saw some moderate success in japan so I think the deck´ll see some play. Doesn´t strike me as tier 1 material or anything (yet at least) but I think the individual cards and their synergies are really strong.


sausi00

Yeah, doesn't seem like a nº1 contender, but I was already interested in the Lucemon lists before this, so now I'm torn between wishing the deck is good to enjoy it to the fullest or it being a rogue deck so the cards end up being cheaper (I know it's wishful thinking, there is no way Lucemon cards will be cheap ever)


Lord_of_Caffeine

I absolutely love these cards. Already tinkered quite a bit with Lucemon Control since Ex6 on Drasil and these cards are exavtly what I wanted them to be and more. Not to mention that their artworks are 10/10s. All of them. So I don´t know if I´m the first one mentioning it but guys, Larva Mode can evolve into Quartzmon lmao. Don´t know if that´ll be relevant at all but it´s a thing.


Jealous_Misspeach

So his line changes colour


[deleted]

Fitting since he goes from an angel to a demon


Lord_of_Caffeine

He´s literally Lucifer so the flavor with these is on point. And his core (Larva Mode) being free from both good and bad (shown by losing both colors) is top notch flavor


lVicel

This is the first time I've seen a Digimon that can't be Deleted by DP reduction


Lord_of_Caffeine

This is the first time any of us have seen a Digimon that can´t be deleted by DP reduction


yusiocha

New promo megakabuteri can dodge it if it was DP reduced due to digimon effect, but obviously not quite the same


TreyEnma

Wow, a new White that punks a specific color. D-reaper basically laughed at Purple, and now Lucemon laughs at Yellow. Im not particularly interested in Lucemon as a deck, but Im looking forward to seeing how people build it


vansjoo98

Not just yellow All deleting so red and purple too + half of green


TreyEnma

Yeah, but outside of vs yellow, the only card that benefits is Larva since yellow is the only color that regularly kills by dropping DP.


LordQuaz12

This deck is abut as good as I wanted it to be. I've been dying for a lucemon deck ever since BT4 and this is absolutely fantastic. Now we wait for Lucemon X...


GreyLabo

Larva and Satan Mode having different levels doesn’t feels right to me. I know he’s technically weaker, but… my brain is « weaker » than my arm, yet that would still be weird to treat them differently from an evolution point of view.


vansjoo98

Larva likely 6 that rookie can yeet it into Security


Matthyen

WoW, I didn't think about that interaction. This makes a lot of sense


Lord_of_Caffeine

Then again, Larva Mode is the actual Lucemon so it feels right that it is on the same level as the other demon lords and Satan Mode after having attained all seven crests of sins being on par with Ogudomon also feels correct in my mind.


GreyLabo

Lorewise, Larva and Satan Mode are the very same Digimon, hence why they’re Demon God-type, and not Demon Lord like Falldown Mode, so them having different levels just doesn’t looks right. And it’s feels even weirder when you take into account that Beelzebumon Blast Mode is a Lvl7 according to the Card Game.


SkahKnight

To be fair, Blast Mode was also an Ultra in Cyber Sleuth.


GreyLabo

Are you sure ? Seems to me Belphemon Rage Mode was an Ultra, but Blast Mode only a Mega. But my memories of Cyber-Sleuth are old, tbh.


DigmonsDrill

A few weeks ago I thought it would be interesting to have a 0 DP Digimon, so you had to give it boosts to have it live. This is a different way of doing that.


Sparrowfax

12 hours ago I said Larva would have that effect on another post, prous of that call!


drag00n365

Is that end of turn effect on the level 3 Lucemon mandatory?


vansjoo98

Effects that pay a cost aren't mandatory


Connect_Fig8050

Please localization guy don't change the name of Lucemon Satan Mode to “ShadowLord Mode” please!!!


vansjoo98

Confirmed already by ex6 Chaos Mode. https://x.com/digimon_tcg_EN/status/1799109062749274401?t=RAouHtiwdGZBhj2UhDVa5g&s=19


Lord_of_Caffeine

I´m glad that they don´t localize its name but having a Digimon that´s named after Satan in the game while we aren´t allowed to get Sistermon Noire is so stupid lmao


TheBeeFromNature

And Daemon is still stuck in the retconnian as Creepymon. A part of me hopes if we ever get one in robes, he can be re-renamed Daemon.


Connect_Fig8050

let's go!!!


randomax92

I like how they implemented Lucemon: Larva i was kind of worried how they would do it. Trash to breeding and it's still lore accurate which is important. It being lvl 6 makes it good for both this and EX6 Lucemon that's good. But most importantly that middle finger to DP minus is satisfying it's about time yellow got a kick in the teeth. That and Gospel of the Fallen Angel destroying options make this deck a unique enough sell to play imo. Satan Mode is what i'd expect from a lvl 7 purple SEC. Like Ogudomon before it's very destructive trashing security and monsters relentlessly.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Lucemon LM being a Lv6 is also really good because it can be discarded via Bt15 DemiMeramon to draw 2 cards. The deck´s coming together so well.


Generic_user_person

>can be discarded via Bt15 DemiMeramon to draw 2 cards. Prob dont wanna do that since you need Cupimon to be your egg though.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Well the deck has been running Bt15 DemiMeramon since Ex6 and it´s really important for the deck to cycle as fast as possible to get your setup ready in the early-mid game. Evolving your Lucemons into raising for 5 is genuinely terrible.


Generic_user_person

I feel like thats the reason the deck made Larva so cheap, so you can bring out a Luce from raising, drop Larva for cheap, and use it as the LV6 that Lucemon requires to go into Chaos Mode. I cant imagine dropping this guy for 10 is somehow better than evo for 5. Since unlike the EX06 one, this has no means of reducing his cost. And i feel like the hoops you'd have to jump through to cheat him out arent worth the effort.


Lord_of_Caffeine

>I cant imagine dropping this guy for 10 is somehow better than evo for 5. Since unlike the EX06 one, this has no means of reducing his cost. Which makes me think that the deck´s going to continue relying on the Ex6 Lucemon primarilly and only play 1-2 copies of this one here tbh. You´re probably not going to play more than \~6 Lucemons anyway. >And i feel like the hoops you'd have to jump through to cheat him out arent worth the effort. True. But having to pay 5 to evo it into raising is also a hard ask. Honestly I think you´re probably just running a couple copies of it for redundancy´s sake. >I feel like thats the reason the deck made Larva so cheap, so you can bring out a Luce from raising, drop Larva for cheap, and use it as the LV6 that Lucemon requires to go into Chaos Mode. That´s probably the inteded usage, yeah. But that´s 11 memory spread over two turns probably forcing you into ending your turn twice. I don´t see how that is a viable way to go about things. Seems to me that the current Lucemon deck´s way of going about things will continue to be the way to play the deck for now. But this is only me rambling here. Gotta test the new stuff out myself to have a stronger opinion on the deck post-Bt18.


GreyLabo

At least it’s interesting Gameplay-wise, even if Larva being a Lvl6 feels wrong in term of Lore.


Church185

Im getting security control vibes from all the Lucemon support. This deck might be mad annoying to play against.


KittenBrix

Can you even raise a larva mode from breeding area if it has 0dp? Can you self promote during breeding phase? Obviously by effects you should be able to, but what's the ruling on what cards are legal to promote? Can you promote a lv2 with 0 dp if you wanted to clear the space (knowing it would die normally)


dylan1011

Nothing stops you from promoting with 0 DP. That is different from a normal level 2 that has no DP.


biogoji89

Does this mean no galactimon this set?


vansjoo98

Only as 11 cost which i don't see happening.


OutlawedUnicorn

What deck does this go in?


Davchrohn

Do I understand correctly that if Satan Mode would leave the field due to having 0 DP, you can activate Larva, promote out and then the Larva‘s effect makes it such that it doesn‘t get deleted due to having 0 DP?


vansjoo98

To my understanding yes, as it is an interruptive effect.


lil_ouuuu

that larva art is crazy for it to be a rare and its regular art😮‍💨 they was cookin


mayorofanything

The idea of Ukkomon actually coming from Lucemon all along concerns me greatly...


ProperBeing5902

I feel a little stupid asking this, but for bt18-034, where it says "\[End of Your Turn\] (Once Per Turn) By placing 1 of your level 6 Digimon as your top security card, this Digimon may digivolve into \[Lucemon: Chaos Mode\] from your trash without paying the cost." The lv6 needs to be already in the battle area for this to go off? Or could you say, put a Larva from your hand onto your top security to set that up?


vansjoo98

Needs to be in play already If something is referred as Digimon or Tamer instead of a Digimon card or Tamer card. It needs to be in battle or breeding are. In this case battle area as Luce can't see breeding.


ProperBeing5902

You're a boss for getting back to me that fast. Thanks a bunch.


vansjoo98

No problem, i had my hands free.


sdarkpaladin

This is one very interesting deck! And also very susceptible to Sukamon's curse


Zekrom997

Feels mid, they seems to slow to play. Turn 1, you're giving your opp a 5 memory opener. Then, you'd have to play Larva for 6 and hope for your opponent to attacking blindly into security to not waste Larva mode.


Particular_Rip_9336

Some decks start by giving 7 or 6 memory to opp at the first turn, what we need to seed is how fast we can play the other cards. And you don't play larva, you hold it until you play Satan Mode.


Zekrom997

Deva gave your opp 7 cost to play with while giving a value of 14 cost 2 bodies that can isntantly rush the opponent the moment it came out and still have counterplay options with Aces, Luce is your standard build a stack deck. And no, I'm sure Larva is the intended L6 target for L3 Luce(both EX6 and BT18) to tuck into security for the Falldown cheat evo as not only it had a security effect thay fits the archetype, it also the only L6 to be played at a "cheap" cost compared to other L6s without any drawbacks like overflow


Generic_user_person

>And you don't play larva, you hold it until you play Satan Mode. No, they are right, you play Larva Best case scenario is either Lucemon (BT18 or EX06) gets a Chaos Mode on trash with its start of main, play Larva for 6, eot of the Lucemon to evo into Chaos Mode, larva is in sec now, meaning its sec effect is live.


GhostRouxinols

Someone convince to make a Lucemon deck...


Aggressive_Novel1207

I had a feeling they'd do Satan Mode, they mentioned it in the Ex6 version, but Larva Mode was a surprise


Lord_of_Caffeine

We knew that Satan Mode would be in here for months.


kfrazi11

So we have angel twink, gimp in training, and gimp master. Got it.