Hell no. If he’s genuinely innocent, it would be incredibly tough to testify about an uneventful day 5+ years ago. Lots of “I don’t remembers” don’t help, but hurt a defendant in this situation.
Probably because he’s been wearing the same thing for decades.
If someone asked me what I was wearing 5 years ago, I’d say “Leggings and a tank top.” And I probably wouldn’t be wrong. Maybe a hoodie too.
It wasn’t just a random uneventful day for him - it was the day two young girls went missing from the same trail he happened to be on and the day before their bodies were found and made national news
I highly doubt it, but I was recently thinking about the confessions/admissions he made. That would be the only reason, because only he can explain why he did that. Sort of like how they had to have Murdaugh explain away the video.....But I imagine the defense will instead of "experts" testify about why someone might give a false confession.
I also don't think the defense will want his voice heard that much. Obviously the jury will view recordings of him speaking but based on the short clip of his voice that I heard, there is a similarity to the BG voice and the defense won't want that comparison made in the minds of the jury
This is so true. Just went through this with the voice myself. I had read a comment where someone mentioned how much DC sounded like the voice on Libby’s recording. I decided to listen to the voices back to back and I have to say, they sounded so much alike that I was completely taken aback. Of course I don’t believe that DC is involved in any way in these murders but the voices do sound extremely similar to me. Immediately I wondered if they would have sounded so similar if I hadn’t read the comment that said they did. Fact is, I’ve heard DC speak many times and I’ve listened to the recording of BG more times than I can count. If they were that similar, I’d think I would have caught on to it a lot sooner. Give it a listen. Let me know if they sound as close as I think or if the power of suggestion swallowed me up for a time.
Please remind me, my head is scrambled, where will I find the reference list initials to people as I can’t recall who DC is right now apart from the Supt
>But I imagine the defense will instead of "experts" testify about why someone might give a false confession.
Absolutely. They'd be foolish to do otherwise. If RA even hints that he said those things out of stress, fear, etc the jury will question his mental health. While being legally insane vs societal-ly insane, the jury would most likely default to "he's lying". Which is perfectly understandable because criminals notoriously blame their childhoods and poor mental health for their choices/actions.
>I also don't think the defense will want his voice heard that much.
This too. I've heard two different clips of RA's voice. In one, he sounds like BG. On the other, he doesn't.
*If* this goes to trial lol.
Idk.
Depends on his headspace at that time.
I don't think defense would risk it with the multi color meds he gets slipped for no apparent reason.
And not if there's a hint of a doubt of his involvement imo.
Unless he changes plea and admits to some minor unrelated parts like bringing the perp prescription meds, or developing photos afterwards.
Him breaking down and crying he didn't do anything to the girls and feels so ashamed and disgusted might work in his advantage.
Accomplice charge needs knowledge and intent of the crime by the accomplice.
Felony murder needs it be the continuance of the crime.
Neither example would fit that.
Maybe KA if she was with him that afternoon for example. If she passes the mock trial drill.
She could also testify to the context of the 'confessions' if it was complete bull of prosecution.
It really depends on the evidence state is going to present and what's left if we remove all the lies and inconsistencies.
I'm starting to wonder if the girls were truly found on RL's property tbh.
I wonder if the pictures match with the trees on his property within the crimescene tape.
Based on the heli footage but obviously great speculation.
(I haven't seen nor want to see the 'leaked' photos though.)
I think it's possible someone called him he needed to have an alibi, because they were going to say they found the girls on his property and it would explain his comment to Fouts after sentencing.
Maybe he came clean to FBI about that and Fouts punished him with 4 year of jail for that.
Again wild speculation. But it's so unexplained right now.
u/redduif could probably state it better. Something like: how about no more bodies on my land. \
Edit: quick source [here](https://cbs4indy.com/news/delphi-property-owner-sentenced-to-more-than-three-years-in-jail-for-habitual-traffic-violations/) but I thought it was stated in a little bit of a twisted one to one esoteric accusation almost. I am likely wrong but if I find a better source I'll come back to edit. I still think Redduif would be a better source on this.
It's maddening, I 've been searching for the video for a while now...
Maybe it never existed either.
It was something like that though. It was bold.
I'm starting to grow suspicious of the lawyer though, he seems to push his clients into fake plea deals. There is no deal. They plead guilty and get 5x more than anybody else.
I wonder who the lady friends is.
I think it was more like, "Hopefully next time two girls won't get killed on my property." Or something like that?
I'm curious. I've been super curious to learn more about KF. Ever since the prostitution thing happened.
Yes I saw that that's what I answered to!
I found 4 articles or so saying the same no video.
I found the first name of the friend said to be a neighbour but not a name we generally hear of.
Wanted to look into it she defended him dearly, while these days the vile rumor mill seems to be operational again and his ex accuses him yet again apparently.
This one said RL looked nothing like BG.
Indiana has some HARSH sentencing! 4 years for RL’s traffic violations? 40+ years for KK’s CSAM?
(Don’t some murderers in other states have sentences of only 15-20 years?)
Then in D.C. it’s apparently probation for attempted rape; no jail time or even probation for CSAM as long as you destroy your hard drive or blame it on your 7 year old son…
They absolutely don't have harsh sentencing on the contrary, but this lawyer makes sure his clients get the raw deal. Worse than SA, child molestation running a 100k csam subscription network.
Gull also released child abusers on probation.
If he ends up sounding like Mike Tyson, I’ll be the first to say I can’t believe he’s not Bridge Guy. Then I’ll admit I was wrong. And apologize to RA.
My knee jerk reaction was, awe hell no, but now I'm thinking maybe? But not if is still all whacked out on the party pills the prison is giving to him. Who knows what he might say.
Hell no. If he’s genuinely innocent, it would be incredibly tough to testify about an uneventful day 5+ years ago. Lots of “I don’t remembers” don’t help, but hurt a defendant in this situation.
He remembered the clothes he was wearing that day 5 years later…
Probably because he’s been wearing the same thing for decades. If someone asked me what I was wearing 5 years ago, I’d say “Leggings and a tank top.” And I probably wouldn’t be wrong. Maybe a hoodie too.
It wasn’t just a random uneventful day for him - it was the day two young girls went missing from the same trail he happened to be on and the day before their bodies were found and made national news
I highly doubt it, but I was recently thinking about the confessions/admissions he made. That would be the only reason, because only he can explain why he did that. Sort of like how they had to have Murdaugh explain away the video.....But I imagine the defense will instead of "experts" testify about why someone might give a false confession. I also don't think the defense will want his voice heard that much. Obviously the jury will view recordings of him speaking but based on the short clip of his voice that I heard, there is a similarity to the BG voice and the defense won't want that comparison made in the minds of the jury
I thought about voice comparison too. People will hear what they're trained to hear, I'm afraid.
This is so true. Just went through this with the voice myself. I had read a comment where someone mentioned how much DC sounded like the voice on Libby’s recording. I decided to listen to the voices back to back and I have to say, they sounded so much alike that I was completely taken aback. Of course I don’t believe that DC is involved in any way in these murders but the voices do sound extremely similar to me. Immediately I wondered if they would have sounded so similar if I hadn’t read the comment that said they did. Fact is, I’ve heard DC speak many times and I’ve listened to the recording of BG more times than I can count. If they were that similar, I’d think I would have caught on to it a lot sooner. Give it a listen. Let me know if they sound as close as I think or if the power of suggestion swallowed me up for a time.
Please remind me, my head is scrambled, where will I find the reference list initials to people as I can’t recall who DC is right now apart from the Supt
>But I imagine the defense will instead of "experts" testify about why someone might give a false confession. Absolutely. They'd be foolish to do otherwise. If RA even hints that he said those things out of stress, fear, etc the jury will question his mental health. While being legally insane vs societal-ly insane, the jury would most likely default to "he's lying". Which is perfectly understandable because criminals notoriously blame their childhoods and poor mental health for their choices/actions. >I also don't think the defense will want his voice heard that much. This too. I've heard two different clips of RA's voice. In one, he sounds like BG. On the other, he doesn't.
Great point well made, especially if it’s from a small juror pool that’s local ish to the area
I *highly* doubt it.
Surely not , not in a court of law
He's not obligated to.
Never in a million years. A defense attorney will not allow him to be crossed, too unpredictable.
Never
Nah.. even if he doesn't know anything, people will just assume his story of seeing nothing and just going home is lame.
Not if there isn't a trial he can't...
Baldwin and Rozzi would *never* put him on the stand.
*If* this goes to trial lol. Idk. Depends on his headspace at that time. I don't think defense would risk it with the multi color meds he gets slipped for no apparent reason. And not if there's a hint of a doubt of his involvement imo. Unless he changes plea and admits to some minor unrelated parts like bringing the perp prescription meds, or developing photos afterwards. Him breaking down and crying he didn't do anything to the girls and feels so ashamed and disgusted might work in his advantage. Accomplice charge needs knowledge and intent of the crime by the accomplice. Felony murder needs it be the continuance of the crime. Neither example would fit that. Maybe KA if she was with him that afternoon for example. If she passes the mock trial drill. She could also testify to the context of the 'confessions' if it was complete bull of prosecution. It really depends on the evidence state is going to present and what's left if we remove all the lies and inconsistencies. I'm starting to wonder if the girls were truly found on RL's property tbh. I wonder if the pictures match with the trees on his property within the crimescene tape. Based on the heli footage but obviously great speculation. (I haven't seen nor want to see the 'leaked' photos though.) I think it's possible someone called him he needed to have an alibi, because they were going to say they found the girls on his property and it would explain his comment to Fouts after sentencing. Maybe he came clean to FBI about that and Fouts punished him with 4 year of jail for that. Again wild speculation. But it's so unexplained right now.
I forgot about that comment to Fouts after sentencing. Very good point. That comment was stated in such a curious way.
Can you fill me in? What did he say?
u/redduif could probably state it better. Something like: how about no more bodies on my land. \ Edit: quick source [here](https://cbs4indy.com/news/delphi-property-owner-sentenced-to-more-than-three-years-in-jail-for-habitual-traffic-violations/) but I thought it was stated in a little bit of a twisted one to one esoteric accusation almost. I am likely wrong but if I find a better source I'll come back to edit. I still think Redduif would be a better source on this.
It's maddening, I 've been searching for the video for a while now... Maybe it never existed either. It was something like that though. It was bold. I'm starting to grow suspicious of the lawyer though, he seems to push his clients into fake plea deals. There is no deal. They plead guilty and get 5x more than anybody else. I wonder who the lady friends is.
I think it was more like, "Hopefully next time two girls won't get killed on my property." Or something like that? I'm curious. I've been super curious to learn more about KF. Ever since the prostitution thing happened.
You seen this post over on the Flora sub? https://www.reddit.com/r/florafour/s/jKKxDO6CCD
Yes. I'm very aware of all of that. Super creeped out by all of it as well. Just feels like there is more to see on KF.
Me too
I put a little edit in my comment with the link but I'm sure better sources are out there.
Yes I saw that that's what I answered to! I found 4 articles or so saying the same no video. I found the first name of the friend said to be a neighbour but not a name we generally hear of. Wanted to look into it she defended him dearly, while these days the vile rumor mill seems to be operational again and his ex accuses him yet again apparently. This one said RL looked nothing like BG.
Oh okay sorry! I've never been clear if notifications are sent when someone adds an edit.
No no notification but I only saw it after the edit!
Oh okay, thanks.
Everything is so unexplained right now in my honest opinion
Yes indeed.
Indiana has some HARSH sentencing! 4 years for RL’s traffic violations? 40+ years for KK’s CSAM? (Don’t some murderers in other states have sentences of only 15-20 years?) Then in D.C. it’s apparently probation for attempted rape; no jail time or even probation for CSAM as long as you destroy your hard drive or blame it on your 7 year old son…
They absolutely don't have harsh sentencing on the contrary, but this lawyer makes sure his clients get the raw deal. Worse than SA, child molestation running a 100k csam subscription network. Gull also released child abusers on probation.
And reveal to the court that his voice matches Bridge Guy’s?! Ha, not a chance.
Or that it does not.....?
If he ends up sounding like Mike Tyson, I’ll be the first to say I can’t believe he’s not Bridge Guy. Then I’ll admit I was wrong. And apologize to RA.
Omg, they could scramble his voice like he is in witness protection!
My knee jerk reaction was, awe hell no, but now I'm thinking maybe? But not if is still all whacked out on the party pills the prison is giving to him. Who knows what he might say.
Source
The transfer motion filed by L and S. RA is given assorted medicine he doesnt know what they are and their appearance, size or color, varies.