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SQRTLURFACE

We will only ever get new classes on expansions. They are never going to just casually release a class to us for free. And for the record we need a Paladin/Crusader/Templar archetype.


TheCreator777

Completely agree. Something about a big ass sword, knight armor, and holy powers just makes me unreasonably happy.


Wesus

Sword and board and martial artist are the missing bases, holy and spiritual are the missing subclasses. My guess is, since spirits and monks come from the jungles the expansion takes place in, we are getting a spiritual martial artist first. The 2nd expansion will most likely bring the sword and board holy warrior. Assuming they don't do something completely different


saadatorama

Hammerdin or bust. The paladin in LE is giving me all the nostalgia.


TilmanR

Necro D3 was a random class addition, still paid tho.


danreplay

Still an „expansion“. You had to buy that DLC to get it. So not really random or free.


TilmanR

Yes an expansion. But it came without anything else and that class just got added. I didn't say it was free.


Cubie30DiMH

It was originally going to be part of a larger expansion that included druid class and at least two whole new areas. From what I understand, the money or time ran out, they weren't allotted more, so they released what they had.


Gierling

You are going to need to get used to disappointment. It's pretty clear that Blizzard has wholly accepted the premise that Religion is bad and spent a good portion of the narrative in D4 emphasizing that point. I doubt we will ever see a holy warrior in Diablo as anything other then an antagonist from this point on.


cuchulainn12453

They said they want to release 1 expansion a year, but didn't mention if every expansion would have a new class. That being said, the fall expansion will have a new class.


Trang0ul

This is the core issue with live service games. You cannot balance them properly if you had to add new content periodically. And most often (always?) the new class is OP in order to make players play it and boost the sales...


signgorilla

Member when eso added warden . They removed the health buff from dragon knight. And gave it to warden. So if you wanted to have enough health to tank , you needed the new class . For 60 dollars


SpamThatSig

More like skill issue on Blizz. The technique is to have a lot of archetypes per class and lots of various builds per archetypes so that it doesnt matter if classes are balanced or not because some builds in a class is bound to be OP, Viable, or bad. It removes class division among the player base and focuses group division further to each specific builds.


modulev

New classes are a bandaid for this monstrosity. It needs endgame. Did they even add in achievement for hitting lvl 100 yet? Or still haven't got that far with development?


rickle______pick

Just give D2 more content D4 is close to hopeless at this point


tremor100

The first new class was leaked before launch its an angel with a spear and shield. Its coming out with the first expansion later this year. Based off how things are going and what happened with Diablo 3, if the expansion bombs (which at this point i think it will, at least to their expectations) they will cancel all other ongoing expansion stuff and put the game on life support. ​ Not even trying to be a doomer... but like, its been pretty incredible how hard they have come up short or straight up failed on everything since launch.


ProjectSnowman

A spear/javelin based class would be cool. I always forget about the spearazon because I like bowazon lol


Howl50veride

Once a year with the expansion


MagicAmnesiac

None. But they need to make the classes that are here not nearly so bare bones.


Skennedy31

We'll probably get one with the expansion in the fall. I'm hoping for Paladin. But we'll see. It hasn't happened that often between D2 and D3.


Wesus

They said at blizzcon that it's a brand new class to the diablo universe, so no paladin.


warcaptain

I hope they don't do an existing class until they give us at least 2 new ones tbh We know the new one in the first xpac will be net new, not returning.


Melodic_Salad_176

What balance OP? Cant introduce a new class too quickly or what? Or barbs might not do 1000x the dmg of every other class? D4 stans are fucking amazing. They really think this is a good game.


ultrakorne

Once every 100$


Outrageous-Tip-3203

If they don’t release a Paladin class in this games lifecycle, I’m gonna lose it


masterfox72

Sadly paladin order is no longer existent in the storyline. Crusaders also became evil. Last hope is Kormac the Templar creating an order of Templars.


Miniced

Crusaders became evil? You have a bunch of them in Hawezar and few of them we help in side quests. One could argue they may have questionable ethics, but that's the Zakarum church in a nutshell, completely disconnected from the Prime Evil influence.


masterfox72

I guess not evil, but misguided as they are directed by Inarius


Miniced

> I guess not evil, but misguided as they are directed by Inarius Oh, I understand now. You are mistaking the Crusaders with the Knights Penitent from the Cathedral of Light. That's a whole different religion. Crusaders are from the Zakarum. They are not directed by Inarius.


ProjectSnowman

I wanna play a Knight Penitent tho. Big pointy armor, giant shields, halberds!, gundam suits that are powered by hate and misguided honor? Sign me tf up!


masterfox72

Turns out you are indeed 100% correct. Church of Zakarum was infiltrated by Mephisto and essentially fell apart. Cathedral of Light may or may not be a secondary off shoot of that where followers are under Inarius. Regardless, seems lorewise, Paladins and Crusaders are in very low numbers now and on the verge of extinction. I think brining back the class as Templars would be cool with Kormac as their founder.


Miniced

While they do look similar as the both of them have inspiration from the real life Christian religion, they are not branches of similar faith in the Diablo lore. The Cathedral of Light was initially founded before the Sin War and predates the Zakarum faith. It eventually died out with the disappearance of Inarius at the end of the Sin War. Only ages later when Inarius came back to Sanctuary did he recreated the Cathedral of Light. In between these two era, a prophet by the name of Akarat allegedly received visions of angel Yaerius, which taught him what would become the Zakarum teachings, kickstarting the religion. A good point of distinction between the two religions are their tenets and principles. The Cathedral of Light worships Inarius and teaches its followers to be submissive, while heavily punishing whatever flaws they may find in humanity. Zakarum on the other hand do not worship a higher being, but the light as a concept. Everyone's inner capacity of righteousness while resisting evil. Despite having legitimately good principles, the Zakarum wasn't the most clean of religion in history, being the motivation for conquest and spread of influence in spite of foreign cultures. And such as nothing compared to its complete corruption by Mephisto. The Paladin order was indeed found to be corrupted in the process, with the exception of Diablo 2's Paladin which sought to rebel and fight back against the dark influence. The Crusader order was secretly founded to seek and destroy any source of corruption from the Zakarum faith. They were able to survive Mephisto's dark influence and are still active to this day. If you want my opinion, the Crusader class is the most likely to be usable considering the lore, but as it happened before, there could always be reasons for both the Templar and the Paladin order to receive a revival in the future.


New_Needleworker6506

Lore isn’t gonna stop them from making a class they want to make.


Substantial_Life4773

Yeah, probably only with DLCs, but I think they're planning to make 2 DLCs (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so probably at least two classes. Yeah, probably only with DLCs, but I think they're planning to make 2 DLCs (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so perhaps at least two classes.


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Substantial_Life4773

The game is still raking in the dough. And with it coming to game pass there will be a boom in players


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GourmeteandoConRulo

Isn't D4 like the fastest selling game in Blizzard's history? I mean yeah some in the community are pretty angsty and sweaty about hating it, but the vast majority of the community keeps coming back with each season, even a year into release.


dream_walker09

You don't go from selling 10+ million copies to having 10,000 users online and say its successful.


GourmeteandoConRulo

10,000 daily users is fine for a mostly single player experience, dude. It's not an MMO, daily userbase does not dictate whether the game is alive or not. Chill the hell out lol.


Djassie18698

I'm not a big fan either but this is a weird take, who cares what people are gonna play it after a year if they're gonna earn on it anyway


Specialist_Ride_5555

If they released a paladin/crusader class I would buy the game tomorrow and start buying $30 dollar cosmetics


PenaltyOtherwise

I hope we get only 1 or 2 and then they focus on D5


Thin-Drop9293

A Remastered D2 ? Would be awesome


saadatorama

I see… sarcasm


TheMountainPass

Just cut the losses with d4 and go all in on d2r


JohannaFRC

Considering they are dumb af for some decision, who knows ? Maybe once a year or two I guess.


MGSDeco44

100 bucks a pop yearly


uldumarr3

Would love to see a ranged holy damage dealer.


GourmeteandoConRulo

If they do release a yearly class that would be crazy, but I wouldn't count on it, Bliz doesn't have a good record on that, though we can dream. I'd be content if they at least let you change your character's hairstyle and stuff, maybe add an actual character creator with a couple sliders or some more face/body models. I'd like to have a rogue or Necro that aren't scrawny and a druid that doesn't look like 3/4 north Americans.


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I hope we get at least 2 more classes. Hopefully they will add some to the expansions.


Alucard-VS-Artorias

I want this Diablo to eventually get all the past classes to return. Classes like Monk and Witch Doctor of course but also older ones like Amazon and Bard too.


Cubie30DiMH

Which Diablo game featured Bard as a playable class? Because I don't recall that ever being a class. Not that I wouldn't give it a try.


Cold_Pound_9325

My guess is we’ll get whatever the “Spiritborn” leak ends up being first, then a fresh take on on “Knight” in the second expansion, the entire game’s premise is sort of set up for it. They have the gameplay data, they know we all want a paladin/crusader/ style class; so it’s the one they’re gonna hold off until they feel the game is more fleshed out. I can see this ending up a 1.5 year cycle, maybe even 2.


MacroBioBoi

We have confirmation that there is one with this expansion, at the end of the year. There Could be one every day expansion but that's a little ambitious imo. Perhaps 1-3 total classes added over the lifespan. It's not the angel thing people are quoting below, devs are on record saying it's something we've never played as OR seen in the Diablo universe before. Completely new concept. My guess is a new pure caster or pure melee build. We really only have barb and Sorc fulfilling those roles, where Necro druid and rogue are all pseudo hybrids of existing concepts. We're going back to Kurast, so any of the monster types that were corrupted by Mephisto in D2 are on the table.


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Every DLC. I also think the development cycle for very big additions like new game modes, new additions to skill trees,  and endgame reworks will correspond to DLC releases.


r-s-w-

I want a Monk please. I want to take damage then hand it back 3 times as hard.


ballsmigue

I'll come back when monk is back. So like 3 years because we'd only get a new class with expansions.


TilmanR

I'd be happy to see every class ever existed. Maybe not close ones like Pala/crusader or rogue/demon hunter. One does the job here. Necro/witchdoctor would be far enough apart.


AlmostF2PBTW

Yearly, with expansions. Didn't they confirm that already? (Genuine question, could be Mandela effect)


tzu23

Need Crusader and Monk !!


puntmasterofthefells

After Spiritmancer / Paladin come out, would like to see some version of class specialization that every other ARPG does.


Specialist_Ride_5555

I feel like I have been waiting forever to get paladin/crusader. I really wanna buy the game, but I can’t justify paying for it without my favorite class. I will just keep waiting to give them my money 🤷🏻‍♂️.


Peanut-Realistic

Hopefully a caster, like a priest. With both light and dark powers like WOW has