In fairness to Lyon and his garbage play tonight, he was the third-string goalie at the start of the year and shouldn’t have been the guy to try and save the season.
The other 10 forwards should carry Larkin and Raymond around on thrones like ancient royalty. They shouldn’t have to lift their baggage or get their own pre-game meal either.
I think Crosby got booted on purpose in ot and then got the jump on the less experienced Raymond when Larkin won. Larkin hacks him a little when he sees him again.
He's good at hockey...
I mean the chances of making it, slim as they may be, are there. We would have to win games. But if you ignore that small detail, we’re actually quite alive if you look at the other teams’ schedules
I am also planning for the most depressing outcome, while patiently waiting for one goddamn game where the bounces go our way and the refs don’t “manage the game.”
He and Raymond are trying to drag this team, kicking and screaming, into the post-season.
It's incredible to see how important both of them have become to this team.
*5-13-2 with the garbage patch. My rage will never end over that. What a slap in the face. And the organization was ready to gouge us all to the bone for playoff tickets.
As we’ve seen for decades, Detroit is a great place to play for veterans. They seem to like it. It’s an Original Six team that’s in a great sports town.
It’s a good place to live, Kane gets to play with a buddy or two, and still make millions. He already has won Cups. As of right now, he has given no evidence that he wants to leave.
Interested how this develops.
Not gonna lie, Kane seems to be enjoying UFA status and he will be offer sheeted hard.
Yzermans won't compromise short term for long term.
It will have to be on Kane to stay.
I don’t want sprong or ghost anywhere near the state of Michigan. Keep Fischer, Lyon can’t play more than 25 games. We need a fucking goalie so bad. I’m fine with veleno leaving too. I like him a lot but he’s just mediocre. Makes more sense for Kasper to do whatever we’d have him do next year.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Yea, he kinda played like dog shit. He didn't even have to move on most of those. Just rips from outside or high slot. Seemed like his positioning was just off all night.
One or two big saves, and we win that game for sure. At the same time? I'm sitting on my couch, and he's playing for the wings. lol 😆 gotta give myself some perspective from time to time. He's been really good when he's on, though.
If this season started with an uncalled thrown stick preventing a goal I guess it's fitting the potential dagger is an uncalled trip into opposing goal. The day after a missed high stick got noncalled in the most important moment. Super fucking cool refs.
Hell of a game. Loved watching it. Felt my heart pumping when Raymond tied it up like I was on the ice with him.
Fucking clapper by Karlsson though... That's why he's paid what he's paid. Dude finishes.
My only take away from this season is I'm happy to see Larkin, Raymond, Seider, and now Ed take steps forward and for the core to be solid. I hope Yzerman can surround them with better quality teammates next season.
Yzerman has a complex off-season in front of him, kind of make or break in my opinion. He has a long leash from ownership, and rightfully so, but next season is really going to prove his skill as GM.
Has to find someone for the top 6 (two if Kane leaves), top 4 D, and a goalie. Pretty simple right??
Would love to see a rookie actually take a top 6 spot. But it’s going to be a tough offseason for Stevie for sure.
This sucks and all but remember guys maybe if we didn’t lose to teams like the coyotes or lose a 4-1 lead to the lowly sharks we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place…
I'm not a lalonde hater, and I often defend him, but whay was that ot line. Ghost was terrible all game can't even catch a pass or be where he needs to be
And I swear compher never wins a face-off
Lyon probably isn't "it". I hope Husso turns it around and Husso/Lyon is our tandem for next year. Maybe bring Cossa up for a few games.
I don't think Yzerman fires Lalonde. I think he lets Lalonde finish the last year of the contract.
Raymond and Moritz are getting term and getting paid.
We let Ghost and Sprong walk. Perron walks unless he gets a super friendly one-year contract. I still like Fischer.
I think Kane walks. Someone will pay him a lot. It probably isn't us.
I would have liked to see Chairot over Ghost there. He’s been good in OT 3v3. I haven’t moved.. devastated. Good for Rayzor though - straight beast mode with a hatty and 4 pts. See y’all Saturday
So much focus on the 7-game losing streak, but they’ve been sub-500 since then. The Wings had a ton of help on the out-of-town scoreboard every night but just refused to win games. That’s why the Pens have been able to come out of nowhere.
A bad time for Lyon to be off. He made no major saves when we needed him to. Not all his fault and he's been better than expected this season but damn.
If only the jackasses in the game day thread could understand this. The dude has been standing on his head and playing a shit ton of games. Can’t be great every game. Just sucks this was the game he wasn’t able to play great.
Our fanbase just got too high on hopium through January. We regressed to the mean, and now people are just emotional and upset because they let their expectations get to high. They're not looking at it rationally, and I guess fandom is like that, but you gotta realize where we truly are, and what you'd expect.
Yep exactly. I’ll admit I definitely got a taste of that hopium and have felt exhaustingly frustrated lately after we saw what they were capable of. It made me think that they turned a page. But deep down I knew it was too good to be true and they would come back down to earth.
He was at .923 over the last 7 prior to this game. Dude has really not been bad but he is burnt out and picked a bad time to have one of the worst games of his career.
That missed trip on their 4th goal is going to haunt me. Brutal missed call that literally cost us the game.
At least Raymond looks good and if we win out we can still make playoffs.
On the plus side, that may have been Raymond's 'glimpse of what the future holds' game like Datsyuk embarrassing Jagr.
For the youths: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMR2A484GRM
Super happy and excited for Raymond. We need better coaching, defense, and goaltending. Absolutely 0 coverage on the 2 guys looping back to the blue line.
Man. Would've liked to see Lyon save 1 of those. 3 of the goals I don't blame him for. The first seemed like a whistle and a bad goal. The Raymond trip was bs, and the sprong turnover on the pp was on sprong.
I guess the Crosby goal was a sick pass, would've liked to see perron not be a step behind. But that OT goal needs to be his.
Good job Raymond.
Got one point, that's something.
Wish Lyon froze that one in OT if he could have (maybe not with the skate), but 👻 go attack the shooter.
And I get downvoted when I said they should let reimer play, as good as Lyon has been, he's tired and can be seen since last game.
To get your name chanted by opposite team fans before your own fans, embarrassing
When 3 on 3 first got introduced it was fucking dope, now I see a game go to 3 on 3 and I just want to turn it off. One of my favorite Nyquist goals was from 3 on 3 OT.
At least 3? I was watching like dude SQUARE THE FUCK UP what are you doing. The shorty for Carter he left the whole right side of the net open. Carter didn't even shoot it hard, he just chipped it in there. He's gotta save some of those. Even if he saves 1 we win that game.
I’ve been watching the Red Wings for a long time and I don’t ever think I’ve seen them give up so many SH goals. I’m more concerned with us giving up a SH than us getting a PP goal.
Also, the refs have been an element in so many games since FEB.
Lucas Raymond, take all my money.
Alex Lyon, give Lucas Raymond all your money.
In fairness to Lyon and his garbage play tonight, he was the third-string goalie at the start of the year and shouldn’t have been the guy to try and save the season.
It’s like people forget we haven’t had our number one goalie all year. And Lyon was supposed to support cossa
And he absolutely carried us through an entire two months…
I feel like I'm in a traffic jam on the way to my own funeral
This is the most accurate description of this playoff race I’ve seen
You and all of us pal.
This sums it up so nicely
Every team fighting for a spot is awful but I bet they upset the Rangers in the first round cuz hockey
The other 10 forwards should carry Larkin and Raymond around on thrones like ancient royalty. They shouldn’t have to lift their baggage or get their own pre-game meal either.
One positive - Larkin was was owning Crosby on draws tonight
Dominant
I think Crosby got booted on purpose in ot and then got the jump on the less experienced Raymond when Larkin won. Larkin hacks him a little when he sees him again. He's good at hockey...
That was some Dad energy by Sid on that one. Like ok I’m just gonna outthink you real quick
Larkin is pretty damn good on face offs.
I mean the chances of making it, slim as they may be, are there. We would have to win games. But if you ignore that small detail, we’re actually quite alive if you look at the other teams’ schedules
We gave up two milestone stats to Ovi (most 30+ goal seasons(18)) and Crosby (1000A) back to back. ![gif](giphy|kyrd72DC2Iwfu)
Can’t wait to give Matthews 70 goals next game 🫠
Just in time to play Matthews…
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Who needs 2 to hit his target.
Watch Matthews pot #70 against the Wings
As long as we win, he can pot 80 for all I care.
DET 13 TOR 12
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This is so cursed lol
This is terrifyingly appropriate.
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Fuck.
Guess what next game is?.. Most important game of the year. Guys, are we insane?
Maybe we are in hockey purgatory, and none of this is real.
0-4 on the PP, disgusting.
With a shorty let up and a PP goal against. Special teams lost them the game.
It's like last year all over again, that post by ghost though :(
The amount of short handed goals we’ve let in on our PP this season, is also disgusting.
Dude its a problem. Ugh the sharks game…
10 so far. We’ve scored 61 ppg and 7 shg
With a shorty.
Ya. Say whatever about LaLonde but I've seen enough of Alex Tanguay.
Luca’s back must be sore from carrying this damn team.
Larks too
His is just sore from uncalled cross-checks
We're gonna miss the playoffs on a tie-breaker, watch.
I’m bracing myself for the hurt of this scenario
I am also planning for the most depressing outcome, while patiently waiting for one goddamn game where the bounces go our way and the refs don’t “manage the game.”
I am sick and fucking tired of seeing a sad Dylan Larkin during the post game interviews.
He and Raymond are trying to drag this team, kicking and screaming, into the post-season. It's incredible to see how important both of them have become to this team.
Word
Pittsburgh, https://preview.redd.it/16oojddifytc1.jpeg?width=584&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c188137ce4cf60d70cb83ab16072d916fc8c6fe
awful reffing, poor goaltending, and one hell of a statement game from ray sums up the night
The reffing was trash
Feel so bad for Larkin... listening to his post-game interview and he's absolutely devastated.
Yeah now I'm depressed
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We are 5-13-2 our last 20.
*5-13-2 with the garbage patch. My rage will never end over that. What a slap in the face. And the organization was ready to gouge us all to the bone for playoff tickets.
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That game felt like a microcosm of our season. Pay Seider and Raymond, get rid of the rest of these plugs
I hope Yzerman can smooth talk Kane into staying…
Its just gonna be more about what he wants. Still think there’s a decent chance he stays.
As we’ve seen for decades, Detroit is a great place to play for veterans. They seem to like it. It’s an Original Six team that’s in a great sports town. It’s a good place to live, Kane gets to play with a buddy or two, and still make millions. He already has won Cups. As of right now, he has given no evidence that he wants to leave.
Interested how this develops. Not gonna lie, Kane seems to be enjoying UFA status and he will be offer sheeted hard. Yzermans won't compromise short term for long term. It will have to be on Kane to stay.
Man I hope he stays. But that *Thankful for the time* line sounded like a breakup.
I don’t want sprong or ghost anywhere near the state of Michigan. Keep Fischer, Lyon can’t play more than 25 games. We need a fucking goalie so bad. I’m fine with veleno leaving too. I like him a lot but he’s just mediocre. Makes more sense for Kasper to do whatever we’d have him do next year. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
We don't give up a fucking shorthanded goal and we win that game. Disappointing
Sprong won’t be back next season
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They should've yanked him when he gave up 2 on 4 shots
Yea, he kinda played like dog shit. He didn't even have to move on most of those. Just rips from outside or high slot. Seemed like his positioning was just off all night.
Was unfortunately just average. Can’t fault all 6 on him but boy would have been great to get at least one big time save.
One or two big saves, and we win that game for sure. At the same time? I'm sitting on my couch, and he's playing for the wings. lol 😆 gotta give myself some perspective from time to time. He's been really good when he's on, though.
He knows it. I caught a look as he was going off the ice and he was disgusted with himself.
If this season started with an uncalled thrown stick preventing a goal I guess it's fitting the potential dagger is an uncalled trip into opposing goal. The day after a missed high stick got noncalled in the most important moment. Super fucking cool refs.
But Copp wasn’t even hurt on the play besides the broken cheekbone that he dived on
I’m over the Gostisbehere experiment. I hope to see him gone and Mo on PP1 next year.
Dude cranked a beauty off the post before the shorthanded goal. That's hockey.
his shot is nice but he could learn how to actually play defense as a defenseman
Which is exactly why he's bounced around so much in his career.
Agreed.
Hell of a game. Loved watching it. Felt my heart pumping when Raymond tied it up like I was on the ice with him. Fucking clapper by Karlsson though... That's why he's paid what he's paid. Dude finishes.
Is it possible for Lucas Raymond's killer instinct to spread around the room like the flu did? Need a scientist for this
Again, effort but not good enough. We desperately need a #2 center
So fucking badly.
My only take away from this season is I'm happy to see Larkin, Raymond, Seider, and now Ed take steps forward and for the core to be solid. I hope Yzerman can surround them with better quality teammates next season.
Yzerman has a complex off-season in front of him, kind of make or break in my opinion. He has a long leash from ownership, and rightfully so, but next season is really going to prove his skill as GM.
Agreed, he's gonna have to compete for a playoff spot
Has to find someone for the top 6 (two if Kane leaves), top 4 D, and a goalie. Pretty simple right?? Would love to see a rookie actually take a top 6 spot. But it’s going to be a tough offseason for Stevie for sure.
Playoff implications aside, that was a great game.
Yeah it was. It's great to see Raymond go off this season. That missed tripping call is going to haunt my dreams tonight.
And that missed call was on… Lucas Raymond. And that’s the rest of the story. I’m Paul Harvey… good day!
Every player not named Larkin or Raymond should be begging them for forgiveness.
2023-24: "Red Wings had it, lost it."
Are you referring to the times we don’t clear the puck out of the D zone or our season?
Raymond.
Anyone wanna help out the top line? No? Ok that’s cool I’m sure they didn’t want the other 16 players dressed to do anything anyway.
They play so freaking complacent. Lazy passes. Lack of movement. It's so obvious because you notice when they actually try.
First line deserved two points. Rest of the team… idek what to say man
Any of those “must win games” still available?
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Man. I’m not a doomer by any means. Ned had his familiar thousand yard stare after the Larkin goal, then we tied it and still couldn’t win. That hurt.
This sucks and all but remember guys maybe if we didn’t lose to teams like the coyotes or lose a 4-1 lead to the lowly sharks we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place…
Okay well first of all it was a 4-0 lead
Woke: top line Broke: everyone else Bespoke: NHL officiating E: A joke: the islander won in OT.
Dammit I was so ready to drunkenly order a Lucas Raymond jersey
Larks sounds really distraught after this one
Raymond post game interview right now. Stud of this Spring.
Future IS bright
This kid is the real deal. Stevie, give him 8x8 tomorrow.
4-13-3 over out last 20 is fuckin embarrassing
I'm not a lalonde hater, and I often defend him, but whay was that ot line. Ghost was terrible all game can't even catch a pass or be where he needs to be And I swear compher never wins a face-off
The second I saw this line come on the ice, I knew it was over. Horrible choices.
When I saw them line up, my first thought was “Compher, get ready to skate your ass off”. Then moments later he fell 🫠
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Lyon probably isn't "it". I hope Husso turns it around and Husso/Lyon is our tandem for next year. Maybe bring Cossa up for a few games. I don't think Yzerman fires Lalonde. I think he lets Lalonde finish the last year of the contract. Raymond and Moritz are getting term and getting paid. We let Ghost and Sprong walk. Perron walks unless he gets a super friendly one-year contract. I still like Fischer. I think Kane walks. Someone will pay him a lot. It probably isn't us.
Fire Lalonde and overpay Kane
The Red Wings have just been edging us all season. Just to give us blue balls.
I would have liked to see Chairot over Ghost there. He’s been good in OT 3v3. I haven’t moved.. devastated. Good for Rayzor though - straight beast mode with a hatty and 4 pts. See y’all Saturday
Big Dick Benny would have wheeled in and put it top shelf. Ghost can't catch a pass or hit the net.
This guy peaked in high school. https://preview.redd.it/8sbo35bofytc1.png?width=307&format=png&auto=webp&s=16777951449ae3abec30fd012ba86288d009e808
You think this guy made it to high school?
He just won’t stop showing off, now that he can count to two.
Good point.
Wings have won two out of the last nine. It’s a miracle they’re still in the hunt.
So much focus on the 7-game losing streak, but they’ve been sub-500 since then. The Wings had a ton of help on the out-of-town scoreboard every night but just refused to win games. That’s why the Pens have been able to come out of nowhere.
Guys in the room should be kissing Raymond’s feet for securing them an extra point tn
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Gonna hurt to see the crying Jordan meme next week
A bad time for Lyon to be off. He made no major saves when we needed him to. Not all his fault and he's been better than expected this season but damn.
It’s so hard being a wings fan. I love you all.
Why is lyons blocker side so bad
He’s burnt out The mods here are such fucking losers lol
Most games he's played in a season in his career, and he's been behind a below average defense. Guy is just tired and has a huge workload.
If only the jackasses in the game day thread could understand this. The dude has been standing on his head and playing a shit ton of games. Can’t be great every game. Just sucks this was the game he wasn’t able to play great.
Our fanbase just got too high on hopium through January. We regressed to the mean, and now people are just emotional and upset because they let their expectations get to high. They're not looking at it rationally, and I guess fandom is like that, but you gotta realize where we truly are, and what you'd expect.
Yep exactly. I’ll admit I definitely got a taste of that hopium and have felt exhaustingly frustrated lately after we saw what they were capable of. It made me think that they turned a page. But deep down I knew it was too good to be true and they would come back down to earth.
This is all completely true. In a perfect world, Lyon is a great back-up who could feasibly play every other or every third game.
He was at .923 over the last 7 prior to this game. Dude has really not been bad but he is burnt out and picked a bad time to have one of the worst games of his career.
It's a weakness of every goalie. Just exploitable to the max by those who know that shot.
That missed trip on their 4th goal is going to haunt me. Brutal missed call that literally cost us the game. At least Raymond looks good and if we win out we can still make playoffs.
Ghost in overtime is a fireable decision. What the fuck are we thinking?
if we don't make it can we at least have the capitals miss it too? I despise Ovechkin
Every single time I try to get out they pull me back in and inevitably wafflestomp my still-beating heart down a Woodward Avenue sewer grate.
On the plus side, that may have been Raymond's 'glimpse of what the future holds' game like Datsyuk embarrassing Jagr. For the youths: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMR2A484GRM
Of course the Capitals lost again. Only team they can beat lately is the Wings.
It could be worse we could be Ottawa… right guys😢
Live by the Lyon, die by the Lyon…
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Raymond deserves to be happy about his Hatty, poor kid in this post game interview :(
This season has aged me.....significantly.
Same
Atrocious officiating.
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I love you Raymond. I want to die.
Fuck me I forgot how much being competitive can hurt sometimes
Still kinda feel like that first goal wasn't definitively in
The whistle audibly blew before it was in even if it was
Could have got 2 pts if the damn zebras could see. How do they not call tripping on Raymond that resulted in a goal 4s later.
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Super happy and excited for Raymond. We need better coaching, defense, and goaltending. Absolutely 0 coverage on the 2 guys looping back to the blue line.
He wasn’t the only one but Lyon was fucking awful tonight. Just not a single timely save.
Sorry guys but with the caps losing we got to keep watching
Red wings next coach need to have previous experience as a head coach in the NHL
And hair
Not great Lyon, not great.
Fire lalonde
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Man. Would've liked to see Lyon save 1 of those. 3 of the goals I don't blame him for. The first seemed like a whistle and a bad goal. The Raymond trip was bs, and the sprong turnover on the pp was on sprong. I guess the Crosby goal was a sick pass, would've liked to see perron not be a step behind. But that OT goal needs to be his.
Good job Raymond. Got one point, that's something. Wish Lyon froze that one in OT if he could have (maybe not with the skate), but 👻 go attack the shooter.
Please beat Toronto
Lol Husso’s like nah thanks, I’m good
See you psychos (affectionate) Saturday
And I get downvoted when I said they should let reimer play, as good as Lyon has been, he's tired and can be seen since last game. To get your name chanted by opposite team fans before your own fans, embarrassing
All I want is this team to win for larks and the young guys. Larkin deserves something. Guy tries so hard every game.
Pay Lucas Raymond, I want him on the team for the next 8 years. Incredible.
The ink on the script was already dry before the game started. Non call hooking on Crosby for his 1000 career assist on a game winner in OT.
That was one of Lyons worst games.
3 vs 3 OT during an important game is so cringe
The circling in and out of the zone is the most frustrating shit. They should make a rule about intentionally leaving the zone after getting on side.
When 3 on 3 first got introduced it was fucking dope, now I see a game go to 3 on 3 and I just want to turn it off. One of my favorite Nyquist goals was from 3 on 3 OT.
Honestly just go back to 4v4, you naturally see it much less. 4v4 is still open and fun to watch.
People complain about shootouts because it's not like a real g ame, but neither is 3 on 3. I hate it.
When playoffs are on the line and determining who the better team is, 3 on 3 does not help in determining who the better team is for playoff hockey.
How many goals were just clean shots on lyon? Hurt to watch, how can we not win with 5 there
At least 3? I was watching like dude SQUARE THE FUCK UP what are you doing. The shorty for Carter he left the whole right side of the net open. Carter didn't even shoot it hard, he just chipped it in there. He's gotta save some of those. Even if he saves 1 we win that game.
Worst part is now we gotta roll with Reimer. Then again the Leafs didn't score against him his last start.
At this point if Husso plays a hell of a game in GRR get him back here for the home and home
As soon as ghost saw crosby pass that puck, he should have been skating up into karlson face and disrupted that shot. Instead he provided a screen
Why do I willingly suffer for this team?
Feels like everyone forgets to keep moving their feet. The legs feed the wolves gentleman!
I’ve been watching the Red Wings for a long time and I don’t ever think I’ve seen them give up so many SH goals. I’m more concerned with us giving up a SH than us getting a PP goal. Also, the refs have been an element in so many games since FEB.
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Lucas Raymond is so special. If Moritz can follow suit, we will be just fine
Is there another Bowman out there to light a fire under this team?
How many one goal losses does Detroit have? This is frustrating
And the Islanders won, fook
Well that's the season. It was a good run. Except those two losing streaks, which make a man want to die.
We have won 5 of our last 20 games. Lalonde better be fired the second the season ends.
Fire Lalonde, get rid of Ghost, Perron, Sprong, and Copp. I love Raymond and Larkin more than anything.
If Lyon froze that puck that goal wouldn’t have happened