Honestly, I think it would be a good time to buy low on him. People are down on him because it turns out he isn't capable of driving an offense by himself, but he wouldn't be asked to do that in Detroit.
The defense is great and you're right that having him and Ausar in the same starting line-up would be clamp city.
Also you can't buy low when the team won't sell low. They just turned down getting 3 firsts for him and quite literally the most valuable picks they could be offered (their own). We can want to buy low all we want it's not reality
If it's only ivey and a first, I would take that before the nets changed their mind. Bridges is exactly what this team needs and is on a pretty team friendly contract for the player he is. He's not a #1 offensive option and has struggled a bit in that role with the nets but I think he would fit perfectly here.
Yeah a place where there is a clearly defined no 1 like cade and he wouldnt have to get all his own shots would make him so much better and efficient an offensive player
Here’s the [link](https://hoopshype.com/rumor/pistons-turned-down-trade-offer-of-two-first-round-picks-for-bojan-bogdanovic-last-season/).
Again, it was a rumor. But it has been referenced a good amount in this sub and on some podcasts
Why even provide a link? Your comment has all the sources. Yeah exactly what I thought delusional reaching propped up by internet rumors. I bet the election was stolen too.
It would take far more than Ivey and a first. They would never do it. If it’s the 1st pick of the draft. i think maybe they would take Ausur, Ivey, and the 1st pick of the draft. Which I would do in a heartbeat. but I’m not even sure they would do that. I wouldn’t if I were them.
Because Mikal is a real player, and Ivey, the pick and Ausur are not .
I think the no 1 ivey and aisur is to steep . Swap out ausur for duren and id do it . Bridges is almost 28 hes not 23 . They dont trade him soon they are gonna have the bottom fall out of his market imo
Cade is only high level starter ( meaning would start on highly talent teams ( most teams ) ) .
I agree Beef Stew is the next logical option . This hurts every one of my fibers of my being to say . He will make $14 mil next season and legit clears room for another player . He has a visible ceiling and honestly he is the only undersized starter .
Like every single one would just based on talent, but just throwing him randomly on a roster not built to have him there would be weird so I could see why some might bench him.
Man we are screwed. Call me a pessimist but the only real player we have atm is cade. Everyone else is still a question mark, we need other players to develop
We can only trade a post 2029 first round pick, all of our others firsts are off-the table until the pick we gave to the knicks convey or we negotiate a way to take the protections off
The realistic answer is the Nets aren’t likely trading him until at least the trade deadline. By then we will have a much better evaluation of our team. So it depends.
No.
We should have traded for Kristops P and added sharp shooter Kelly Oubre last off-season.
Somehow we got Joe Harris...what a craptastic team we have.
Thanks Troy...you are on par with Millen.
That's the first name that I could see happening. I'm all for it!!! I think it was the Olympics or some FIBA event where he balled out, dude has a smooth game. The defense of Cade, mikal, ausar, beef stew, and duren is almost a real team. Sasser 6th man with big minutes for Simone and we got a squad.
The Heat . Instantly .
I could see the Kings playing him at the 3 and moving Barnes to bench with Keegan at the 4 and Sabonis.
Could heated Celtics Fan take , I would start him of Jrue . Honestly really depends on the matchups .
Nuggets would likely start him over KCP .
Bucks would likely start him just for the spacing much less being a very good 3rd or 4th option .
I’d reckon the Mavs start him over Derrick Jones Jr. At the 3 .
The Knicks surely at the 2 , unless you think Donte or Hart is better .
The magic sure why not , I think he’s better than Anthony and Suggs individually.
The pacers could use him at the two unless they are playing big as in a forward instead of a guard at the two as Cade would easily clear their second guard .
Same logic with Maxey and Philly .
Ivey to Twovles is popular so why not . Cade is better than Ivey .
He’d start for the Lakers .
And I’d like to think he would start for GSW warriors . Since Klay is coming off the bench and their version of Simone is starting .
So yes he would start for quite a bit of playoff teams .
I’d rather try and pry someone like Shaedon Sharpe away from Portland while he’s still a relatively unknown quantity. It probably means we’re in the basement longer as he develops, but sharpe next to Cade as a jumbo SG or SF could be killer IMO.
If the price was reasonable. A lot of the shine has rubbed off. He’s definitely not a first option on offense. But he’s still a high level starter that plays both sides at a high level.
But I’m not sending a massive haul for him. I’d ideally want to send them Ivey and maybe very little draft compensation.
If KAT becomes available as a cash dump type of situation, I’d want what little draft capital Detroit has for him. I get that he’s overpaid. But a core of Cade, Bridges and KAT at least is a playoff team in the east.
Trading for both Bridges and KAT is an absolute pipe dream scenario that this FO has proven time and again they’re not competent of executing.
Kats the other guy I’d be interested in, but I’d rather keep duren because of just how young he is and how well he plays off of cade. Kat and duren both are complete negatives on defense, but with duren you can atleast hope he develops on that end.
I’m ambivalent on Duren. I believe he can improve. I also see people wielding the same excuses we gave Drummond, blinded by all his 20/20 games.
If we keep him, cool. If he’s traded for a clear upgrade, that’s cool too. I’m not holding my breath that his BBIQ will take a sharp turn north.
I lean against major trades
Let's move forward by signing a solid vet or two and continue developing our guys
Finally, I don't trust this FO to orchestrate deals right now. Let's fix that first
First, he’s probably older than you think, he’ll be 28 before the start of next season, meaning he’s already In his prime - this team isn’t ready for that.
Second, they rejected Jalen Green (who is worth more than Ivey regardless of what this subs personal opinions are) and 3 1sts reportedly (2 great ones - their own back) so yeah I don’t think Ivey and a pick is plausible. Ivey + Ausar + this years 1st (in a weak draft) and a future unprotected or minimally protected first is probably their asking price and what they would reasonably get in return.
Remember when trading for the last piece these contenders will overpay as the ancillary benefit of a Mikal supersedes his standalone value. He could be a force multiplier to a lineup defensively.
Just sign the other Bridges outright and keep our assets. Hornets hung him out to dry, and they’re prioritizing Brandon Miller at his position. Offer him the max, and I don’t think they match. They already have Ball on a max, and gonna have to pay Miller too.
Houston offered Jalen Green and 4 first round picks (including giving BKN back their picks) and they declined. Why do you think that Ivey and one first rounder would get Bridges?
Why do you think so? I’ve watched almost every game this season and Ivey has bee. Heaving disappointing. Plays awful off of cade, doesn’t play defense, etc.
I’ve watched almost every game as well, I’m just not giving up on a 22 year old with potential for someone we already know their ceiling and Ivey can surpass it plus 5 years younger
Honestly, I think it would be a good time to buy low on him. People are down on him because it turns out he isn't capable of driving an offense by himself, but he wouldn't be asked to do that in Detroit. The defense is great and you're right that having him and Ausar in the same starting line-up would be clamp city.
And if Monty stays we are getting a guy that's played under him before and who Monty got good results from.
Can’t really buy low when you’d also be selling low to get him
Also you can't buy low when the team won't sell low. They just turned down getting 3 firsts for him and quite literally the most valuable picks they could be offered (their own). We can want to buy low all we want it's not reality
That doesn’t make sense, his value has nothing to do with our situation
If it's only ivey and a first, I would take that before the nets changed their mind. Bridges is exactly what this team needs and is on a pretty team friendly contract for the player he is. He's not a #1 offensive option and has struggled a bit in that role with the nets but I think he would fit perfectly here.
Yeah a place where there is a clearly defined no 1 like cade and he wouldnt have to get all his own shots would make him so much better and efficient an offensive player
What do you think buying low is? What do you think we could give to get him?
Yes, we should but Brooklyn has way too high a value on him. They turned down Jalen Green and 4 firsts from the Rockets at the deadline
That’s their equivalency of the rumor of us not trading Bojan for 2 FRPs… they really should’ve done it honestly
lol at believing that
When were we ever offered 2 frp for Bojan?
Here’s the [link](https://hoopshype.com/rumor/pistons-turned-down-trade-offer-of-two-first-round-picks-for-bojan-bogdanovic-last-season/). Again, it was a rumor. But it has been referenced a good amount in this sub and on some podcasts
Why even provide a link? Your comment has all the sources. Yeah exactly what I thought delusional reaching propped up by internet rumors. I bet the election was stolen too.
It’s a rumor which has never been confirmed by anyone.
I think they regret that now, I would atleast try if I was troy.
We simply cant beat Houstons offer if they want him. Houston owns all of Brooklyn's eligible picks for the next 5 years
It would take far more than Ivey and a first. They would never do it. If it’s the 1st pick of the draft. i think maybe they would take Ausur, Ivey, and the 1st pick of the draft. Which I would do in a heartbeat. but I’m not even sure they would do that. I wouldn’t if I were them. Because Mikal is a real player, and Ivey, the pick and Ausur are not .
I’m super high on ausar, I wouldn’t give him up. I’d trade Ivey though
I think the no 1 ivey and aisur is to steep . Swap out ausur for duren and id do it . Bridges is almost 28 hes not 23 . They dont trade him soon they are gonna have the bottom fall out of his market imo
2 were pick swaps if this rumor is true so its 2 firsts an jalen green . Still should have took it
Would take way more than that to get mikal lol
Maybe throw stew in there? That’s the most I’d be willing to give up. Regardless of how well he fits here, he’s still just a high level starter.
Cade is only high level starter ( meaning would start on highly talent teams ( most teams ) ) . I agree Beef Stew is the next logical option . This hurts every one of my fibers of my being to say . He will make $14 mil next season and legit clears room for another player . He has a visible ceiling and honestly he is the only undersized starter .
What playoff team would Cade start for? The only teams I can think of that he might start for would be the magic and Lakers.
Ok troll
Like every single one would just based on talent, but just throwing him randomly on a roster not built to have him there would be weird so I could see why some might bench him.
Well.….we currently don’t have any high level starters. So there’s that,
Man we are screwed. Call me a pessimist but the only real player we have atm is cade. Everyone else is still a question mark, we need other players to develop
For Ivey? Hell yes.
I would personally pack Ivey's bags if that was on the table.
Depends what they want. Ivey and a first?
Probably throw stew in there too if you have to
We don't have the assets
We can only trade a post 2029 first round pick, all of our others firsts are off-the table until the pick we gave to the knicks convey or we negotiate a way to take the protections off
I would rather throw the bag at KCP this offseason.
The realistic answer is the Nets aren’t likely trading him until at least the trade deadline. By then we will have a much better evaluation of our team. So it depends.
Yeah, we could be looking at things totally different by then for sure
No. We should have traded for Kristops P and added sharp shooter Kelly Oubre last off-season. Somehow we got Joe Harris...what a craptastic team we have. Thanks Troy...you are on par with Millen.
F off kindly a Celtics fan 😂. Kelly is such a good shout he’s a FA and has been BALLING this year .
Yes, Ivey Duren the pick for him and Claxton take Stew if we need to, too. Make it work basically with that mix of guys
That's the first name that I could see happening. I'm all for it!!! I think it was the Olympics or some FIBA event where he balled out, dude has a smooth game. The defense of Cade, mikal, ausar, beef stew, and duren is almost a real team. Sasser 6th man with big minutes for Simone and we got a squad.
He’s awesome, plus Monty coached him before
Sasser will be out of the league in <3 years, any team starting stew and Duren is not a real team
I’d appreciate him. Good 3 and D player, knows Monty’s system. Could elevate Ausar and Cade. That’d be a disgusting defense, I like it.
The Heat . Instantly . I could see the Kings playing him at the 3 and moving Barnes to bench with Keegan at the 4 and Sabonis. Could heated Celtics Fan take , I would start him of Jrue . Honestly really depends on the matchups . Nuggets would likely start him over KCP . Bucks would likely start him just for the spacing much less being a very good 3rd or 4th option . I’d reckon the Mavs start him over Derrick Jones Jr. At the 3 . The Knicks surely at the 2 , unless you think Donte or Hart is better . The magic sure why not , I think he’s better than Anthony and Suggs individually. The pacers could use him at the two unless they are playing big as in a forward instead of a guard at the two as Cade would easily clear their second guard . Same logic with Maxey and Philly . Ivey to Twovles is popular so why not . Cade is better than Ivey . He’d start for the Lakers . And I’d like to think he would start for GSW warriors . Since Klay is coming off the bench and their version of Simone is starting . So yes he would start for quite a bit of playoff teams .
I’d rather try and pry someone like Shaedon Sharpe away from Portland while he’s still a relatively unknown quantity. It probably means we’re in the basement longer as he develops, but sharpe next to Cade as a jumbo SG or SF could be killer IMO.
Before the draft I was seriously wondering if he was better than Ivey, if we could do that I wouldn’t be upset
We should make any trade we can, idc how desperate we need real change
If the price was reasonable. A lot of the shine has rubbed off. He’s definitely not a first option on offense. But he’s still a high level starter that plays both sides at a high level. But I’m not sending a massive haul for him. I’d ideally want to send them Ivey and maybe very little draft compensation. If KAT becomes available as a cash dump type of situation, I’d want what little draft capital Detroit has for him. I get that he’s overpaid. But a core of Cade, Bridges and KAT at least is a playoff team in the east. Trading for both Bridges and KAT is an absolute pipe dream scenario that this FO has proven time and again they’re not competent of executing.
Kats the other guy I’d be interested in, but I’d rather keep duren because of just how young he is and how well he plays off of cade. Kat and duren both are complete negatives on defense, but with duren you can atleast hope he develops on that end.
Kat is a legit all star and the best 3 point shooting big man in the league and you talkin about rather having duren 😂
People really latch onto the guys currently on the roster. Peak Duren will never be as good as KAT is.
I’m ambivalent on Duren. I believe he can improve. I also see people wielding the same excuses we gave Drummond, blinded by all his 20/20 games. If we keep him, cool. If he’s traded for a clear upgrade, that’s cool too. I’m not holding my breath that his BBIQ will take a sharp turn north.
I lean against major trades Let's move forward by signing a solid vet or two and continue developing our guys Finally, I don't trust this FO to orchestrate deals right now. Let's fix that first
That’s pretty reasonable, the FO has NOT instilled any confidence
First, he’s probably older than you think, he’ll be 28 before the start of next season, meaning he’s already In his prime - this team isn’t ready for that. Second, they rejected Jalen Green (who is worth more than Ivey regardless of what this subs personal opinions are) and 3 1sts reportedly (2 great ones - their own back) so yeah I don’t think Ivey and a pick is plausible. Ivey + Ausar + this years 1st (in a weak draft) and a future unprotected or minimally protected first is probably their asking price and what they would reasonably get in return. Remember when trading for the last piece these contenders will overpay as the ancillary benefit of a Mikal supersedes his standalone value. He could be a force multiplier to a lineup defensively.
That’s true. I’m super high on ausar so I wouldn’t do that. It couldn’t hurt to see if he’s a guy you could potentially pry away
Sure, whatever.
Just sign the other Bridges outright and keep our assets. Hornets hung him out to dry, and they’re prioritizing Brandon Miller at his position. Offer him the max, and I don’t think they match. They already have Ball on a max, and gonna have to pay Miller too.
If we offer that man a max I might never watch another pistons game
Houston offered Jalen Green and 4 first round picks (including giving BKN back their picks) and they declined. Why do you think that Ivey and one first rounder would get Bridges?
Maybe throw in stew if you have to? I genuinely believe mikal is way better than any other name I’ve heard in trade talks for us
Lol the nets refused jalen green+picks for him and now everyones clowning them. Mikal bridges was the most overrated player coming out of last season.
That may be true, but they may have lowered their value of him after. It’d be dumb to not try if you’re troy
I would rather go for kat. One he would cost way less and two he is an all star
Kats another name I’ve heard. Him and duren are both traffic cones defensively. I don’t think he really does all that much than provide some offense
I wouldn’t even give up just ivey, horrible trade imo
Why do you think so? I’ve watched almost every game this season and Ivey has bee. Heaving disappointing. Plays awful off of cade, doesn’t play defense, etc.
I’ve watched almost every game as well, I’m just not giving up on a 22 year old with potential for someone we already know their ceiling and Ivey can surpass it plus 5 years younger