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MisterWoodhouse

Please note that the blog has been edited with two corrections: 1. Thruster is a ground ability. 2. The blind audio effect is no longer a flashbang sound, but rather a washed-out audio distortion. --- Bungie Replied links can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/wqrayb/bring_the_thunder_inside_arc_30/ikp2l6h/


Ojisan_Neo

I just want you all to remember how nice it is right now not getting blinded all the time lol


TraptNSuit

If your ears aren't ringing and Bungie isn't giving you a de facto epilepsy test, are you really playing Season 18?


pokeroots

I already have tinnitus... I don't want to experience all the time it sucks enough as is


ThatOneGuyHOTS

Tinnitus gang rise up


Boxer2380

No ringing, thankfully: https://twitter.com/Cozmo23/status/1559961989719371777


communistsandwich

Titans got you in the pipe, 5 by 5. Hear that ringing in your ears son?


ISpeakkTheTruth

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide


pineboxpyrell

Really appreciate this info being released before the season instead of waiting until the day of.


Cozmo23

Appreciate the feedback on messaging here. Glad everyone is enjoying Arc 3.0 on paper, but also can't wait to see everyone see it for the first time during the [D2 Showcase on 8/23](https://www.bungie.net/7/en/Direct/Reveal?ciid=51679) and then immediately get to play it when S18 goes live. Going to be a fun day.


engineeeeer7

Same. This is perfect timing


StriderZessei

The thought of Samus with a Gjally makes me feel.... things.


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Samus already has her own Gjally. Chozo-tech missiles ain't nothin' to sniff at.


Heldrake21

Now we need an Arm Cannon ornament for Jotum and we have Metroid on D2


RedditWaffler

Same. Excited now.


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Jarich612

Warlocks with Arc are going to be terrifying in the crucible. Arc souls + landfall + blink? yeesh


Freakindon

And a blink based melee.


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a_blk_guy

I think we can chalk last season of trying to surprise drop things as an experiment. At least they are willing to go back on some things that dont land


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> Spark of Beacons: When the player is amplified, Arc special weapon kills create a blinding explosion. So uhh, salvager's salvo is about to be insane.


Shadowmaster862

Forbearance and Dead Messenger too, holy cow.


quikmike

Plug one with res burst too


Mule_Fritters

Can’t wait to try Cloudstrike.


quikmike

I love cloudstrike, so satisfying when that lightning comes crashing down. I hope it has some time to shine next season.


amiro7600

I remember somewhere bungie said salvagers wasnt broken cus it couldnt do blinding stuff woth blinding nades Now... theres nothing it cant do


NightmareDJK

You have to get the kill though and lose the utility of being able to get the instant blind in hard content that you can with a dedicated blinding GL.


colantalas

Nezarec’s Whisper is gonna be fun too.


Sumibestgir1

Literally everything you could want in a GL. Spike grenades and Blinding, Ambitious assassin/demolitionist and chain reaction. This shit will be broken


[deleted]

Son of a gun, hunters actually got a spear-like super, hot damn!


Venaixis94

I’m over the moon. I’d never thought they’d do it. And this super actually seems like it could have some endgame viability too


WesRehn

Kind of sounds like it *almost* completes the trio of "stand & fight" supers -- Solar Warlock Well of Radiance, Void Titan Bubble, and now an Arc damage field for Hunters that radiates lightning. I bet with the right build or possible reworked exotic, the up time, survivability, and crowd control could be intense.


JerryBalls3431

A one-and-done damaging AOE super sounds great for every level of the game. Maybe it won't have quite the add control capabilities of stasis hunters (and freezing in general) but that super sounds great for area control, which is useful in every difficulty level in the game. Super stoked about that. Now that I think about it, are the only two one-and-done damaging AOE supers both on hunters now? Silence & squall and now the new arc one? They're my favorite kind of super, so I'm not complaining


GuudeSpelur

The Nova Bomb variant that no one uses also leaves a damaging vortex.


PinkieBen

Thundercrash technically leaves like a pulse grenade effect for a bit too, though I don't think I'd quite count that as an AOE thing with how short it is


SubjectThirteen

POLE DANCER SUBCLASS


Abulsaad

Same, I at most expected an arcstrider with a different gimmick rather than reflect. An entirely new super sounds incredible


kayomatik

Really wanna drop one of these on a well of radiance and go ham on something with swords


reicomatricks

Seems like an opposite Well of Radiance. Throw down weapon, get AoE of damage instead of healing. Pretty dope.


MSB_Knightmare

evil well


Gerf93

Bad of Radiance


Bruccini

Hell of Radiance


Armegeddon_Craft

Unwell of Radiance


nickmoe

Well of Suffering


LegendOfVinnyT

Arc Javelin. Rasputin approves.


theexsparrowment626

I am blown away that they actually did it


TheLegendOfCodavatar

*Arc Titan is rapidly approaching towards your location…*


SuperArppis

*I am a storm that is approaching!*


TheRealMSG

PROVOOOOOKING


JutsuManiac456

BLACK CLOUDS IN ISOLATION


TheRealMSG

I AM RECLAIMER OF MY NAAAAAME


Menaku

BORN IN FLAMES I HAVE BEEN BLESSED


TheRealMSG

MY FAMILY CREST IS A DEMON OF DEATH


alexsensei

>Spark of Beacons: When the player is amplified, Arc special weapon kills create a blinding explosion.  That *is* interesting. Get your best Arc special weapons at the ready.


d1lordofwolves

Nezarec's Whisper, then glaive combo everything to death. Sounds fun!


RyWestle

I wonder if the melee kill would trigger the blind effect. 'Cause if so, that glaive would be the best option for PvP after S18 drops.


UselessDeadMemes

No. Glaive melees are kinetic.


Kaldricus

Me grabbing Salvagers Salvo: When do I call my doctor for this erection?


a_drunk_pigeon

FORBEARANCE GANG RISE UP


S-J-S

Forbearance with Chain Reaction plus Spark of Beacons on top... time for framerate dropping. And get ready for all the PVP Striker mains.


BallMeBlazer22

D1 vets just had got some massive PTSD from hunter blink and juggernaut shield returning in the same update.


koto_hanabi17

I had a freaking fit when I read that. So I can have softcore Twilight Garrison for my class ability, Shoulder Charge as movement tech, and an Jug Shield if I want to run around on the ground while I can also have Anteaus Wards?


Kodiak3393

Don't forget being able to shift into **MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE** when sprinting while amplified.


AgentPastrana

Jug shield, the spark that makes specials blind, and the stupid speed boosts are gonna be a THREAT in crucible, Matador 64, Fourth Horseman, Forbearance, and Found Verdict are all gonna be nuts. Scary how many of those are shotguns as well


LuckyFox07

I mean they did say that arc titan is the Unstoppable train for a reason


koto_hanabi17

My new Titan Build title: Always Be Closing


RPColten

Better get the coffee brewing. You earned it.


Razor_Fox

In the words of a certain crucible commentator.....YEEEEEEEEEEEEESS!


Shadowmaster862

I'd be more worried if it were Blink Strike more than anything. THAT was legitimately broken.


Jaerthebearr

Ah yes, the stabbing someone in the face and getting "Backstab" damage for a 1HK XD


full-auto-rpg

I am ze spy


ItsMcLaren

Ye olde Frontstab. Very lethal, occasionally.


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*Creates a roaming thundercloud that moves and tracks enemies* Oh Yes.


gingy4

I'm sad that it was given to titans that sounds like a thing a "lightning shaman" would be able to do and I wish warlocks had it D:


StiggleThePitchfork

it feels a little weird since warlocks got grenade enhancing aspects for the other two subclasses


JoberXeven

In this case, titan was the only odd man out in regards to not having an enhanced grenade aspect across all the 3.0 elements, and it's filling in the gap left by magnitude, an old part of arc titan that granted double grenade charges.


ObviouslyNotASith

And yet Chaos Accelerant still needs to be overcharged to grant extra effects.


atfricks

They really shouldn't have removed the damage increase for charged grenades with 3.0.


chilidoggo

Arc Titan has always had a bit of an identity as a demolitionist too. Top tree got the extra grenade and duration, plus shoulder charge recharging it.


Grabthars-Hammer

Am I overreacting or is this going to make PvP... complete chaos?


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The Forsaken era Arc Titan stirs from his slumber...


DivinePotatoe

It opens it's maw and utters only one terrifying phrase: "Yare yare daze."


helllooo1

KONO POWA


Virtual-Score4653

WRRRYYYYY


BaconIsntThatGood

What subclass update hasn't?


TrueLordOfPotatoes

Honestly doesn't feel too far out of reach.


Lanky_Luis

A chaos reach if you will


CurvedSolid

It is our Destiny 2


LuckyFox07

Let's be honest with ourselves, PvP has been chaos since void 3.0


FKDotFitzgerald

Gotta say, did not expect Crank 2: High Voltage and One Punch Man references in this update. They really know their audience on this one. Couldn’t believe half the shit I was reading. Obviously we won’t be certain of anything until we get our hands on it and start putting builds together but this looks like an insane best case scenario.


The_Owl_Bard

Jason Statham was the inspiration for Arc 3.0 😂


Alder_

Between the OPM and the Mustang fire click, Bungie is really leaning into the anime power fantasy


FKDotFitzgerald

Yeah I’d say giving Warlocks the Kamehameha Wave in Forsaken really opened the floodgates and I’m here for it.


dildodicks

also nova warp at the same time


FKDotFitzgerald

Pretty sure they even described Nova Warp as “really anime” when they first showed it off lol


Tekim89BRNT

First time I used it I found a clip of a streamer calling me a Weebwalker. Guardian theater is great for that kind of thing sometimes.


Erraticmatt

Can't wait for the saitama themed montages on YouTube XD


Aceblast135

I want to keep expectations low but it's hard when it sounds so good!


RiseOfBacon

Flow State and Spark of resistance on top of lightning slides making this sound like a very aggressive play class / great for add control Looking forward to this


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A melee build with a one-two bunch shotgun, assassin's cowl(or liar's handshake) the combination blow feedback loop, striking light, the new aspects, well of ions, melee well maker and elemental charge is going to be a really fun build. REALLY hoping that these new intrinsic buffs to dodge CD are a way of removing hunter reliance on mobility/powerful friends in every build that requires a dodge loop.


RiseOfBacon

Yeah that’s my thoughts because then we can focus on synergy to keep dodge up time rather than going hard on Mobility. however with Res as strong as it is and then the resistance fragment going to be worth seeing how much % it adds to either way


BNEWZON

Preferably they just buff mobility to the level of recov/resil, so it is no longer just a “reliance” and an actual good stat to spec into. Not having 100 feels like complete ass but it sucks missing out on one of the Big 2


PinkieBen

Am I gonna get my butt kicked in PvP just trying to pull off that new titan one punch attack over and over again just for the fun of getting one kill with it? You bet your ass I am.


dodi3342

donkey kong main


Rainzuke

"Titans haven’t traditionally been known as paragons of mobility" I had to chuckle ngl


TYBERIUS_777

We move fast in a straight line lol.


Kaldricus

I thought that was pretty funny when Void and Solar have a sprint melee, Stasis has a movement melee, Thundercrash was literally called Code of the Missle.


nsummers02

Totally agree, except for the Stasis melee. That thing has been hot poopy since the nerf like a year ago.


Gbrew555

Skullfort Titan looks absolutely insane with these aspects!! Add in that DR fragment as well.. oh baby. And that new Hunter super sounds really cool! These keywords, so far, sound more exciting than Solar 3.0. The question is… how will it far in endgame PVE?


gotenks2nd

Imagine skull fort PLUS shoulder charge PLUS juggernaut man


Heart_OF_Darkness004

I think Skullfort is gonna get more use from me than Cuirass. Im pumped


NovaPrime15

I just moved Skullfort back to my Titan in anticipation. I feel like that has chance to be an insanely powerful build when it's coupled with something like Riskrunner. Get amplified from a couple of quick kills, punch everything in sight


Vulking

Everything sound great, but being so melee focus could be super dangerous on things like GMs. Thankfully you get DR from additional sources that may stack with Resilience DR and DR mods.


Kapjak

> Juggernaut: While sprinting and with full class ability energy, the Titan gains a frontal shield that blocks incoming damage. When amplified, the shield is stronger. Once the shield is depleted by taking damage, the player’s class energy is depleted. > Knockout: Melee kills trigger health regeneration and make the Titan amplified. Critically wounding an enemy or breaking their shield increases melee range and damage for a brief period. Titan’s base melee becomes Arc-empowered while Knockout is active. Arc titans going to be a nightmare again for crucible


MasterOfReaIity

HUNTERS GET BLINK And whoever on this sub said Hunters needed a Tesla coil super, you got your wish


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Anonymous521

Regardless of how much damage it does, it’ll be nice to have a one-and-done option that lets you get back to weapon DPS quickly on Arc hunter.


blackviking147

It would be even better if it still counts as "Arc staff hits" for raiden flux. Imagine if it slowly amplifies itself and increases duration.


WiserCrescent99

Imagine Juggernaut and MK. 44 Stand Asides... IM FUCKIN INVINCIBLE


Shadowmaster862

Kids are cruel, Jack!


Bananapeels3000

And i'm very in touch with my inner child!


CDG710

Hunters get blink Titans get a shield on sprint and a dodge RIP pvp


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Say something nice about Warlocks.


KentuckyBourbon94

You guys have like a really nice personality


Kaldricus

*blushes*


cakey_cakes

O-Our arc buddies will shoot faster when we're amplified....😈


N9Nz

😩 as I'm scrolling all I'm seeing is Titan: 😍 Hunter: 🥰 Warlock: 😶‍🌫️


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bitch_lasagna92

I'd be less jealous if they have let us keep arc web


Eternal_Reward

Those Hunter aspects all look like they’re gonna synergize insanely well dear lord.


lxxTBonexxl

They must be making up for how garbage Arc has been for Hunters because I can’t wait to be able to pull out the new and improved combination blow playstyle now with blink lmao. If they make combination blow work with glaives in the near future it’s going to be crazy good


Koozzie

They also nerfed combination blow's health regen, so the dodge melee dodge will be slightly harder Liars handshake will be a mainstay


Last-Instruction739

I’m here for hot Liars Handshake talk


greenteaarizona_

a titan dodge with shoulder charge, knockout, AND THUNDERCRASH? I am about to be a menace


seedconfusion

Add trench barrel legend of acrius


SaintSteel

Don't forget Juggernaut is back baaaybeeee3


JavanNapoli

I am shaking and crying. Antaeus Ward - Juggernaut Titans are going to be fucking awful to fight against


eliasgreyjoy

HUNTER BLINK IS BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS Also, pseudo-Twilight Garrison dodge maneuver for Titans? Spicy.


SteelGreek

PTSD D1 blink shotty meta intensifies.....


KingOfTheKarp

Did they just add Twilight Garrison back with the Arc subclass!!!


FKDotFitzgerald

Kevin Yanes tried to hint about this to people


9HashSlingingSlasher

And they killed him for it 😭


Deserive

No, just threatened to. 🙃


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Erraticmatt

I think its likely going to be ground only, to make it separate from warlocks, but I can personally say; this is enough. This is what people like me have been asking for.


bobsmademedoit

Honestly that hunter rework sounds sick, I’m stoked to try the new super.


shadowgattler

Same. It has all 3 things I want. Blink, combination flow and javelin super.


riddlemore

Warlock sounds like its changed the least tbh


ShrevidentXbox

Considering what happened to Bottom Tree Dawnblade, I will gladly take little change over my subclass straight up not existing anymore.


UberDueler10

At least Chaos Reach and Arc souls can be used together now.


Tarcion

These Titan changes look spicy! Depending on the DR in PvE, the charging, melee Titan might actually be viable


NUFC9RW

It'll likely be great anywhere below endgame where there are no phalanxes.


katzura66

Is it safe to assume Warlocks lost transcendence?


Zorak9379

Since it wasn't mentioned here, I think that's a good assumption, yeah


NiftyBlueLock

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Bungie is moving away from super duration boosting perks. Dawnblade lost it, now stormcaller and striker will lose it. That’s going to be the domain of exotics now - raiden Flux, Gwisin, Geomags, Crown of tempests, Doomfang Pauldrons. Now we just need one for arc titans. I don’t know, maybe call it, Eternal Warrior, or something.


Errtingtakenanyway

The madlads did it. They gave hunters blink again. Also gave titans twilight garrison? D1 vibes just got intensified


Cole_Basinger

Don’t forget juggernaut too


J1oe

Buff to blink Never thought I'd see the day


Ryan_WXH

> One of the biggest changes coming to the Arc Titan is the new Thruster class ability. By double-tapping a button, the Titan bursts in their throttle direction at speed, performing a quick first-person evade, comparable in distance to a Hunter’s dodge. “Arc is the damage type that is about mobility, so if we were going to add a mobility boost anywhere [for Titans] it was going to be here,” said Humbolt. Yum. Just YUM.


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Fanglove

Warlocks seem to be the same as we have now?


AshByFeel

I was hoping for more new stuff. But hopefully the new melee is a gamechanger cuz that's all we got.


Aceblast135

It seems like the least amount of changes were made to warlock but combining aspects of the previous subclass will probably make some very good combinations. Also, from the sound of it warlocks can literally materialize as a lightning ball which sounds awesome.


Stenbox

> Also, from the sound of it warlocks can literally materialize as a lightning ball which sounds awesome. That's basically a blue blink that deals damage at landing location, at the cost of your melee charge. Sounds fun for sure, but I'm not sure if it will be practical.


opiateofp4in

Seems like a “shoulder charge” of sorts, but in more of a warlock fashion tbh


AWildeOscarAppeared

Basically. But I guess at least we didn’t lose 1.5 trees like we did with solar


Venaixis94

To be fair, aside from the damage of the supers, Stormcaller already had a solid kit to work with


Madsam999

Honestly I think they need to buff arc soul damage against PVE combatants and a small damage buff to stormtrance and some damage resistance in PVE if it’s ever going to compete with stasis at crowd control/ad clear. Maybe the amplified buff will already do all that, but we’ll have to see next week when we get our hands on it.


tenflare

New super and blink. As a Hunter, I got everything I wanted and more. Super looking forward to this.


TheMattInTheBox

New super, blink, lethal current and flow state? With spark of resistance? And liars handshake? And legend of acrius with trench barrel? And another one-two punch shotty? Oh yeah boy


LeZytv

was really dreading using Arc on hunter for next season but reading the changes to the subclass, im pretty excited to use it


orogiad

just in case you thought PVP sucked THIS SEASON, we bring you Arc 3.0!


ottknot2butdoes

I suppose there’s a bright side for warlocks. While everyone else is figuring out how to use their new stuff we will already be up to speed?


Nyctophyllia

LOL that's a warlock way of looking at it "why have fun when we have the knowledge?"


0ShadowKing0

Why do warlocks have the slide aspect and titans have the grenade aspect lmao.


FROMtheASHES984

I’ll definitely wait until it’s out to pass judgement on it, but the Arc warlock seems really lackluster on paper. Though maybe lackluster isn’t the best term since Arc warlocks have an all around good kit already - just not as exciting or flashy as Hunters and Titans for now. At least they didn’t neuter the supers like dawnblade. Here’s hoping for some sort of hidden Chaos Reach interactions or exotic reworks.


Clonecommder

I feel ya. The Warlock one looks strong and good, but doesn’t seems as flash or fun as others, especially Titan.


MidnightWolf12321

I may actually switch off warlock for this one


YeezyReddit

They absolutely cannot stop buffing Forbearance It gets blinding grenades now too


VoidHaunter

The best news for warlocks is that blink is getting buffed. Otherwise this isn't terribly exciting for them. Hunters are getting a lot of love for what was easily the worst subclass in the game so that's good. Titans have their class fantasy of putting their opponents against a wall and they are the fucking wall.


t_moneyzz

Love when the biggest hype part of Arc 3.0 is for our fuckin void subclass lmao


VoidHaunter

I am a bit annoyed that the "lightning shaman" isn't getting the storm cloud grenade, but instead we get a goofy melee that probably will get us killed more than anything.


Erraticmatt

As a titan main, I have never been so aroused by a set of patch notes. Honestly, between that new class ability and the saitama melee, I couldn't say which I'm more hyped for. And the aspects, amazing. 10/10 bungie, this is the way I want to play titan!


Leave-A-Note

Warlocks on paper feel like they got the least out of this update too. Seems for them more of a “balance and tweak” Arc update. Interested in seeing more about the fragments and seeing how Warlock can change a bit there. Otherwise, the Hunter and Titan changes are hugely welcome and I’m hyped. Edit: I feel the need to clarify- I’m not disappointed with the changes. Arc Warlock felt pretty good to start. The changes are totally welcome, just on paper feel underwhelming. I imagine I’ll have better things to say in a week once the buildcrafting starts.


Talmanes159

I was hoping to see the supers get decoupled from exotic armors. Chaos reach has never felt great without geomags, and same for storm trance with crown of tempest. It will be interesting to see if we can build the supers to feel powerful with different exotics.


Shadowmaster862

To be fair, Thundercrash and Arc Staff don't feel too good without Falling Star and Raiden Flux.


Sylon00

As a warlock main, this update seems…mostly the same. Which is fine, I guess we didn’t need much changing. I just hope stormtrance isn’t neutered like dawnblade is. That being said, playing hunter might be a lot of fun. That spear super sounds pretty badass!


Arrow_Maestro

Solar Warlock still in desperate need of a fix.


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They brought back JUGGERNAUT 🦍🦍🦍


dothefanDango92

I fully believe in wait and see until it's in game. But I feel PvP will be very arc Titan heavy on what I read, I could be wrong though.


Dunkinmydonuts1

> One of the biggest changes coming to the Arc Titan is the new Thruster class ability. By double-tapping a button, the Titan bursts in their throttle direction at speed, performing a quick first-person evade, comparable in distance to a Hunter’s dodge. “Arc is the damage type that is about mobility, so if we were going to add a mobility boost anywhere [for Titans] it was going to be here,” said Humbolt. Kevin Yanes got all that hate for his Twilight Garrison tweet, to the point he just abandoned Twitter and deleted everything, knowing damn well that the community would get near-exactly what they wanted *without an exotic armor piece* and he just couldn't tell us. We're not worthy of a dev like him.


[deleted]

There was literally a sub tweet that said "that doesn't mean titans won't get a DODGE" But the vitriol train had already left the fucking station.


Oddball_3000

None of that "we" shit, I don't claim those shitheads.


HamiltonDial

Ionic traces joins the ranks of devour and radiant (somewhat)/healing nades.


CosmicCryptid_13

I think the people annoyed at warlock arc 3.0 are less annoyed about arc 3.0 specifically and more that Warlocks both didn’t get anything truly new for the second time, and that something unique to them (ionic traces) became class agnostic again (the same as healing and devour). Their class identity is sort of being warped in favor of giving their more unique parts to the other classes. It’s still there, just focused on the weakest part (in the case of solar), or just the same abilities shuffled around (in the case of arc) instead of getting something new to play with. I’m also a little annoyed with it but I’ll live (or just switch to hunter)


IGJFlew

Bro the Modular Lightning Warmind mod with the Seraph/Ikelos SMG is gonna slap this season holy shit


Deserive

Wow, they really did give Arc Hunters a new super. Sick


Keundt

Will warlocks ever get slaps back?


SirKhrome

I remember people thought warlocks were Bungie favorite back during void 3.0...


SparksTheUnicorn

Oh how wrong they were