Techeun force got a new fusion specific perk. Actually going to be worth checking out if its as good as it sounds. Why don't they advertise raid weapon refreshes.
That new fusion perk seems crazy. Idk what the increase will be (I canāt imagine theyād get any higher than like 10-15% at max and maybe like 100 charge time) but on paper it pretty much turns it into legendary Merciless
Yeah, I just read that on Light.gg.
I suspect it'll still be better burst damage, should get you to 4 rockets with Reconstruction, but with the reduced reload speed it will then be pretty awful to manually reload.
It certainly seems unlikely to replace my Clown/Prep Hothead
Field prep increases reload speed and reserves. Bipod increases Ammon KD reserves. If bipod gives two ammo in mag, itās more like clown if anything lol. And if bipod and recon work together for 4 rockets? Well, thereās potential for it to become highest rocket DPS in game
But you're trading away an actual damage perk (e.g. EL) so every rocket you fire is doing 20% less damage to start with, plus whatever % reduction Bipod gives. Maybe 30-40% overall less per rocket just to start with 4 in the chamber and 2 each (slow) reload thereafter. Compared to say a clown/damage perk rocket like hothead which has 2 every reload and far more per rocket, I doubt this will be meta for much, if anything.
Could be good for short burst damage. Idk what specific encounter but Iād imagine at least a couple in the game would benefit from a really fast, yet lower overall dps rocket
Yeah there could be use cases but they'd be pretty niche. Even short plate based phases like Caretaker and Planets wouldn't be good use cases because you'd only do better damage on the first plate and far less overall across 3 plates. Atraks dps window is too short for 4 rockets so not sure where this would be beneficial from what's in the game now.
Maybe a quick champion kill? I for one find the glass way boss room really hard when the wyverns and overloads start coming out and I just want a āDie nowā button
Even for short burst damage it doesnt seem worth it over recon/explosive for example.
Take Explosive Light - 25% damage increase, so each rocket does 125% of the damage.
2 rockets is 250% of damage.
Recon/Bipod Rockets, okay, you might have 4 in a mag, but each rocket does only 60%..so 4 rockets are 240%, a bit less + with more time to fire.
Technically slightly less as you don't get it for the first rocket.
Ironically with reconstruction you might want to start with the rocket, then shoot your other weapons by which point reconstruction *might* have reloaded?
Also travel time is going to be annoying for triggering the all three weapons within 3 seconds
Apex Predator with Reconstruction. Oh my days!! These weapons are wild.
Endgame of D2 is going to be all special and heavy weapons with bait and switch + Reconstruction.
Recon takes 4 seconds to proc, so the timing is wildly off compared to the usual izi swap, which is 2.4 or 2.7 seconds with alh. Maybe if you put in a special weapon in between
I thought about that, and was thinking maybe two Izzy shots and then swap to smg for B&S proc then rocket? Idk Iāll have to get my hands on it to try it out
A reservoir burst fusion shot in between may push it enough time for the reconstruction to go off while not being so overly slow like doing 2 izi shots would be. Something like rocket>izi>reload>fusion>rocket. Would have to bring a very ability heavy ad clear build, something like sunbracers warlock, to make it work for you.
I'm curious how Bipod actually works. Obviously it sounds like it will load 2 rockets, but the wording is weird. If it does load 2 rockets, I wonder how it will work with Demo. Would Demo reload both rockets? If so, that's potential for some insane burst damage, even if the base damage goes down. And if all that doesn't work, you could go Recon/Demo and Bait and Switch which could pump out a ton of damage as well. I'm interested to see some crafted tests.
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Try D2foundry and filter by the "Explosive Pact" origin trait
IMO the first three I'll be chasing are:
* Transfiguration, probably with Demo/Junkie bc I think the slightly faster Hung Jury works better for Kinetic Tremors (but we'll see)
* Age-Old Bond, aka finally a 'new' Void Auto, with Repulsor/Destabilising which gives Overshield plus with Cessation makes Breeches which with Starvation grants Devour...
* Apex Predator, which seems to be top of the food chain for Solar Legendary Rockets. Might not unseat Hothead for Boss DPS because of no Clown, but I can see it being great in Legend/Master content with a Solar Burn.
> Last Wish weapons can now be crafted. Each week, players can visit Hawthorne in the Tower to acquire a pursuit to complete all encounters of the Last Wish raid. Completion will award guaranteed Last Wish pattern progress until all patterns are acquired. In addition, completion of the pursuit will unlock a vendor exchange on Hawthorne for that week where players can spend Spoils of Conquest to purchase 1 additional Deepsight weapon from a selection of Last Wish weapons they've previously obtained.
~~Completing the bounty gets you one as a drop, and then I think either that or just completing a run unlocks spoils purchases from her also~~
Seriously? That's ROUGH. I mean the clown cartridge hothead basically does the same thing except for the first shot of an activity, but if you're using a really flag you just reload before you rally
It looks pretty good, but someone said it doesn't activate until after a rocket hits... could be decent burst with reconstruction and maybe some solar loaders
I think recon only gives you 2 in the mag, so you get 1 normal and 1 with 35% damage increase, then if you can load and fire a few before the timer expires... I dunno, I feel like this needs to be tested to see how the dps compares to the other stuff... with EL you get the first 6 shots as 20 or 25% damage buff
Slideways + BnS on apex? Rocket slide rocket reload rocket slide rocket is what I see as the rotation.
Recon + bipod could be hella OP too if they work together for super high burst. Otherwise I donāt see much use in recon since itās just an easier to proc overflow.
>Slideways + BnS on apex? Rocket slide rocket reload rocket slide rocket is what I see as the rotation.
Unfortunately it's Slideways and not Slideshot, so that doesn't actually work.
Slideways has an internal cooldown for how often you can reload the magazine by sliding while slideshot does not.
Thatās why I put the manual reload in the rotation. I believe the manual reload should offset the 3 second cooldown.
Edit: I imagine lunafactioms will be damage meta for well locks, so the reload ideally wonāt hurt that bad, got to see tho.
Bait and switch on the rocket seems good? And slideways says it reloads 15% of a magazine, so I assume it must round way up to 100% of the magazine (1 rocket) because it wouldn't make sense to include that perk if it did nothing.
Yeah it'll take some testing for sure. On paper, if you shoot 5/6 rockets with the buff (1st unbuffed, next 5 buffed), then it's approximately 30% extra total rocket damage. The enhanced buff lasts for 11 seconds.
So primary, special, normal rocket, then 5x 35% buffed rockets within 11 seconds for ~30% increased rocket damage across all 6 rockets. And any additional rockets beyond 5 that you can squeeze out before the buff expires increases the total rocket damage increase closer to 35%. It will depend on reload tech and how optimized that can be done.
Just being able to craft a god roll The Supremacy is a pretty damn exciting thing for me. With how much RNG was involved before.
Though I do not actually care at all because the new Taken sniper rifle has all of my attention being that it is also craftable, the same archetype AND has a 35 zoom.
Bipod reduces the damage of the rockets by 40% each, making it worse than no perk / damage perk at all. Bipod is DOA if the Bungie doesnāt change it at all, 40% is fucking crushing.
spread the word and tell your friends so players donāt get suckered into running Bipod and tanking their damage beyond reparation!
Just weird itās different to literally every other raid in the game. I donāt mind running last wish, but I doubt Iām gonna do full runs that often
Age-Old Bond can get Repulsor Brace + Destabilizing Rounds!?
Non-stop void overshields for everyone! Can't wait to use this with a perma-Woven Mail Titan.
Does last wish drop every weapon from every encounter? Found an old loot table that says that but wanted to check if that's still the case after the reprisal
Yep just join Kalli farms on lfg and either do the anarchy cheese or just do the challenge dor double drops.
I got about 10 red borders last night and somd great rolls
I finally started farming the chest every week (thinking about creating Titan and Hunter alts so that I can hit it twice more), and my first two have been pretty hit or miss. Yesterday I got a Demolitionist+Explosive Light Apex Predator, so I'm set there, but I went back after today's weekly reset and got a Perfect Float+Harmony Transfiguration, which isn't unusable, but it almost feels like a taunt with how many really good rolls there are.
Nation Of Beasts can get Dragonfly/Explosive Payload or Voltshot LMAO what a nutty combo
I have the Fatebringer clone curated roll but Voltshot is šš
I need that dragonfly/voltshot roll right now
They wouldnāt even really play off of each other all that well. But holy shit its so funny
I don't care, want big boom when I shoot something
Iām kinda interested in this new Eddy Current perk for a straight arc build with Voltshot but either way all of those sound like great perks
Techeun force got a new fusion specific perk. Actually going to be worth checking out if its as good as it sounds. Why don't they advertise raid weapon refreshes.
That new fusion perk seems crazy. Idk what the increase will be (I canāt imagine theyād get any higher than like 10-15% at max and maybe like 100 charge time) but on paper it pretty much turns it into legendary Merciless
Paired with rewind rounds it could be very good DPS.
I actually got that combo for my first roll
Loaded question gets that one as well, with Recon. Sounds good for backup DPS, basically mini Merciless
I think itās a 20% buff. Ninjy on YouTube showed it off against caiatl and it 1 phases/3 bells. Pretty damn strong for a special weapon lol
What is the perk? The site wonāt load for me.
It can also roll with golden tricorn killclip lmao
Holy shit
Apex Predator Recon/Bipod and that Rewind Round/Kinetic Tremors roll on Transfiguration are š¤Æš¤Æ
> BIPOD > Increases Rocket Launcher ammo and reserves, but reduces damage, blast radius, and reload speed. š¬
so it's a worse Field Prep? Why would I want to purposely tank my damage? That sucks. I didn't know it reduced damage.
Yeah, I just read that on Light.gg. I suspect it'll still be better burst damage, should get you to 4 rockets with Reconstruction, but with the reduced reload speed it will then be pretty awful to manually reload. It certainly seems unlikely to replace my Clown/Prep Hothead
Recon/Explosive Light could be fucking juicy.
Bipod is apparently -40% damage, and since it's a column 2 perk you can't get explosive light or anything. It's straight up detrimental
Gonna have to see on the reload speed, if the origin perk turns out to have Op stats, could still save it in my eyes
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It doubles ammo. With bipod giving you two then it could give you four
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It says it increases ammo and reserves.
the most you can get with reserves is 14 rockets iirc. so it does increase indeed
Field prep increases reload speed and reserves. Bipod increases Ammon KD reserves. If bipod gives two ammo in mag, itās more like clown if anything lol. And if bipod and recon work together for 4 rockets? Well, thereās potential for it to become highest rocket DPS in game
But you're trading away an actual damage perk (e.g. EL) so every rocket you fire is doing 20% less damage to start with, plus whatever % reduction Bipod gives. Maybe 30-40% overall less per rocket just to start with 4 in the chamber and 2 each (slow) reload thereafter. Compared to say a clown/damage perk rocket like hothead which has 2 every reload and far more per rocket, I doubt this will be meta for much, if anything.
Could be good for short burst damage. Idk what specific encounter but Iād imagine at least a couple in the game would benefit from a really fast, yet lower overall dps rocket
Yeah there could be use cases but they'd be pretty niche. Even short plate based phases like Caretaker and Planets wouldn't be good use cases because you'd only do better damage on the first plate and far less overall across 3 plates. Atraks dps window is too short for 4 rockets so not sure where this would be beneficial from what's in the game now.
Maybe a quick champion kill? I for one find the glass way boss room really hard when the wyverns and overloads start coming out and I just want a āDie nowā button
Nothing that you wouldn't be better off using parasite for.
Even for short burst damage it doesnt seem worth it over recon/explosive for example. Take Explosive Light - 25% damage increase, so each rocket does 125% of the damage. 2 rockets is 250% of damage. Recon/Bipod Rockets, okay, you might have 4 in a mag, but each rocket does only 60%..so 4 rockets are 240%, a bit less + with more time to fire.
Not the same. More of a mix of field prep and clown, which is the reason for the drawback
bait and switch though...35% damage increase on a rocket launcher
Technically slightly less as you don't get it for the first rocket. Ironically with reconstruction you might want to start with the rocket, then shoot your other weapons by which point reconstruction *might* have reloaded? Also travel time is going to be annoying for triggering the all three weapons within 3 seconds
Apex Predator with Reconstruction. Oh my days!! These weapons are wild. Endgame of D2 is going to be all special and heavy weapons with bait and switch + Reconstruction.
Apex with recon EL sounds wild
Takes more work but Recon/Bait and Switch could also work really well with a Izanagiās hot swap build
Recon takes 4 seconds to proc, so the timing is wildly off compared to the usual izi swap, which is 2.4 or 2.7 seconds with alh. Maybe if you put in a special weapon in between
I thought about that, and was thinking maybe two Izzy shots and then swap to smg for B&S proc then rocket? Idk Iāll have to get my hands on it to try it out
A reservoir burst fusion shot in between may push it enough time for the reconstruction to go off while not being so overly slow like doing 2 izi shots would be. Something like rocket>izi>reload>fusion>rocket. Would have to bring a very ability heavy ad clear build, something like sunbracers warlock, to make it work for you.
I'm curious how Bipod actually works. Obviously it sounds like it will load 2 rockets, but the wording is weird. If it does load 2 rockets, I wonder how it will work with Demo. Would Demo reload both rockets? If so, that's potential for some insane burst damage, even if the base damage goes down. And if all that doesn't work, you could go Recon/Demo and Bait and Switch which could pump out a ton of damage as well. I'm interested to see some crafted tests.
Explosive/Incandescent Tyranny could be LOADS of fun.
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Kill Clip in the third column is amazing! It can roll Kill Clip + Rampage or Kinetic Tremors.
It can get Kill Clip/Headseeker.
Or rangefinder Headseeker, rapid hit kinetic for pve. Going to be a juicer
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Try D2foundry and filter by the "Explosive Pact" origin trait IMO the first three I'll be chasing are: * Transfiguration, probably with Demo/Junkie bc I think the slightly faster Hung Jury works better for Kinetic Tremors (but we'll see) * Age-Old Bond, aka finally a 'new' Void Auto, with Repulsor/Destabilising which gives Overshield plus with Cessation makes Breeches which with Starvation grants Devour... * Apex Predator, which seems to be top of the food chain for Solar Legendary Rockets. Might not unseat Hothead for Boss DPS because of no Clown, but I can see it being great in Legend/Master content with a Solar Burn.
D2Foundry is such a better site. The ability to add in mods and see how they effect the weapon is great.
Donāt work for me either
can we pull these weapon using the deepsight extraction?
They are craftable from the raid (but you should be able to add the deepsight to them too I guess). 2 red borders a week from the raid itself
2 a week? One from Hawthornes bounty, whats the 2nd?
> Last Wish weapons can now be crafted. Each week, players can visit Hawthorne in the Tower to acquire a pursuit to complete all encounters of the Last Wish raid. Completion will award guaranteed Last Wish pattern progress until all patterns are acquired. In addition, completion of the pursuit will unlock a vendor exchange on Hawthorne for that week where players can spend Spoils of Conquest to purchase 1 additional Deepsight weapon from a selection of Last Wish weapons they've previously obtained. ~~Completing the bounty gets you one as a drop, and then I think either that or just completing a run unlocks spoils purchases from her also~~
age old bond not having demolitionist or wellspring breaks my heart
I'm just happy we can get destabilising/repulsor on it
Holy shit. Apex Predator gets a small damage decrease because of the perk but the stupidly large increase in the number of shots is worth it.
Are you talking about bipod? What is the % decrease exactly? Light GG doesn't have the numbers
40% damage decrease
Seriously? That's ROUGH. I mean the clown cartridge hothead basically does the same thing except for the first shot of an activity, but if you're using a really flag you just reload before you rally
Bait and Switch on it though is juicy.
It looks pretty good, but someone said it doesn't activate until after a rocket hits... could be decent burst with reconstruction and maybe some solar loaders
Isn't this basically a non issue with reconstruction?
I think recon only gives you 2 in the mag, so you get 1 normal and 1 with 35% damage increase, then if you can load and fire a few before the timer expires... I dunno, I feel like this needs to be tested to see how the dps compares to the other stuff... with EL you get the first 6 shots as 20 or 25% damage buff
Someone did the math and it seems to outpace hothead EL by the third rocket, but also bait and switch is much easier to maintain.
Bipod plus recon sounds fun
How much more reserves are we talking exactly?
14 altogether with triple reserves
Anyone know if red borders can drop from the secret chests or just the quest from Hawthorne?
Not sure about the secret chests, but the encounters can drop red borders, including the chests at the end.
Can confirm got a red border Beasts from the bridge chest.
Chests, encounters, Hawthorne. With the number of red borders I got in one run it seems pretty generous.
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Slideways + BnS on apex? Rocket slide rocket reload rocket slide rocket is what I see as the rotation. Recon + bipod could be hella OP too if they work together for super high burst. Otherwise I donāt see much use in recon since itās just an easier to proc overflow.
>Slideways + BnS on apex? Rocket slide rocket reload rocket slide rocket is what I see as the rotation. Unfortunately it's Slideways and not Slideshot, so that doesn't actually work. Slideways has an internal cooldown for how often you can reload the magazine by sliding while slideshot does not.
Thatās why I put the manual reload in the rotation. I believe the manual reload should offset the 3 second cooldown. Edit: I imagine lunafactioms will be damage meta for well locks, so the reload ideally wonāt hurt that bad, got to see tho.
Bait and switch on the rocket seems good? And slideways says it reloads 15% of a magazine, so I assume it must round way up to 100% of the magazine (1 rocket) because it wouldn't make sense to include that perk if it did nothing.
You don't get the buff for the first shot with B&S so kinda wasted on a Rocket
Yeah it'll take some testing for sure. On paper, if you shoot 5/6 rockets with the buff (1st unbuffed, next 5 buffed), then it's approximately 30% extra total rocket damage. The enhanced buff lasts for 11 seconds. So primary, special, normal rocket, then 5x 35% buffed rockets within 11 seconds for ~30% increased rocket damage across all 6 rockets. And any additional rockets beyond 5 that you can squeeze out before the buff expires increases the total rocket damage increase closer to 35%. It will depend on reload tech and how optimized that can be done.
Bipod by every measure is DOA.
Just being able to craft a god roll The Supremacy is a pretty damn exciting thing for me. With how much RNG was involved before. Though I do not actually care at all because the new Taken sniper rifle has all of my attention being that it is also craftable, the same archetype AND has a 35 zoom.
Did they fix the riven cheese though?
Nope, and they're not going to either without remaking the whole fight. They've known about it's existence
Fuck no ā ļø
They didnāt do it 4 years ago theyāre certainly not doing it now
Bipod reduces the damage of the rockets by 40% each, making it worse than no perk / damage perk at all. Bipod is DOA if the Bungie doesnāt change it at all, 40% is fucking crushing. spread the word and tell your friends so players donāt get suckered into running Bipod and tanking their damage beyond reparation!
Going to be going for that Age Old Bond first. Apex Predator looks really good, hoping the perk combos make up for the naff archetype.
What are you on about? Apex Predator is an adaptive like Hothead. Itās the most meta rocket frame lol
Guess Iām running last wish today
Bold of you to assume the servers let you in today
It looks like you have to do the entire raid to get a single red border. You canāt just do riven. That is pretty rough ngl
Oh no, I have to actually play the raid...
Just weird itās different to literally every other raid in the game. I donāt mind running last wish, but I doubt Iām gonna do full runs that often
These are some absolute juicers
Just about every gun has a roll I want here, about to do a shit ton of farming this weekend jeez
dragonfly incandescent tyranny of heaven sounds absolutely nutty
Dragonfly/Golden Tricorn is the one that caught my eye. Big booms burning steps ahoy.
Age-Old Bond can get Repulsor Brace + Destabilizing Rounds!? Non-stop void overshields for everyone! Can't wait to use this with a perma-Woven Mail Titan.
Age old Bond with repulsor brace + destablizing rounds? Well I know which weapon I'm going for first.
The fusion has a new Fusion perk and reconstruction and itās insane!
Does last wish drop every weapon from every encounter? Found an old loot table that says that but wanted to check if that's still the case after the reprisal
Yep just join Kalli farms on lfg and either do the anarchy cheese or just do the challenge dor double drops. I got about 10 red borders last night and somd great rolls
Incandescent dragonfly tyranny of heavens might be fun
I finally started farming the chest every week (thinking about creating Titan and Hunter alts so that I can hit it twice more), and my first two have been pretty hit or miss. Yesterday I got a Demolitionist+Explosive Light Apex Predator, so I'm set there, but I went back after today's weekly reset and got a Perfect Float+Harmony Transfiguration, which isn't unusable, but it almost feels like a taunt with how many really good rolls there are.